Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

If his mast is anything like the one in my 35 MKII, lots of thickness
to drill and tap, that's the way to go and since it's likely a
permanent install drill tap and use bolts, 1/4 20 stainless, 3/4 inch
long should do fine
Dwight Veinot
C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
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On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 1/4" stainless steel with stainless steel mandrel pop rivets have a tensile
> strength up to 2000 lbs.
>
> http://www.crawfordproducts.com/ultragrip.htm
>
> Even an aluminum / aluminum rivet is fairly strong at up to 890 lbs.
>
> I doubt there is any advantage to using a rivet unless the wall thickness of
> the mast only allows
> a couple of full threads to catch. With thinner section sizes a rivet may
> have more tensile strength.
>
> Michael Brown
> Windburn
> C 30-1
>
> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 17:28:43 -0500
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> Eric,
> ? I would be concerned that aluminum pop rivets wouldn't be strong enough.?
> They may be.? I drilled and tapped for stainless, used antiseize.  Have
> removed one at a time yearly since just to check.  All good.
> Bill Walker
> CnC 36
> Evening Star
> Pentwater, Mi
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>
>
> On Friday, January 29, 2016 Eric Frank via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> Just installing a Garhauer boom vang on Cat?s Paw this winter. ?Do you guys
> recommend aluminum pop rivets - in case I ever need to remove it? ?In my
> experience, SS screws tapped into the mast or boom hold fine but are a devil
> to get out because of electrolysis. ?The pop rivets can just be drilled out.
>
> Eric Frank
> Cat's Paw
> C 35 Mk II
> Mattapoisett, MA
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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

1/4" stainless steel with stainless steel mandrel pop rivets have a tensile 
strength up to 2000 lbs.

http://www.crawfordproducts.com/ultragrip.htm

Even an aluminum / aluminum rivet is fairly strong at up to 890 lbs.

I doubt there is any advantage to using a rivet unless the wall thickness of 
the mast only allows
a couple of full threads to catch. With thinner section sizes a rivet may have 
more tensile strength.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1


Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 17:28:43 -0500 
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Eric, 
? I would be concerned that aluminum pop rivets wouldn't be strong enough.? 
They may be.? I drilled and tapped for stainless, used antiseize.  Have removed 
one at a time yearly since just to check.  All good.   
Bill Walker 
CnC 36 
Evening Star 
Pentwater, Mi 
 
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On Friday, January 29, 2016 Eric Frank via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote: 
 
Just installing a Garhauer boom vang on Cat?s Paw this winter. ?Do you guys 
recommend aluminum pop rivets - in case I ever need to remove it? ?In my 
experience, SS screws tapped into the mast or boom hold fine but are a devil to 
get out because of electrolysis. ?The pop rivets can just be drilled out. 
 
Eric Frank 
Cat's Paw 
C 35 Mk II 
Mattapoisett, MA  
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Stus-List Boom vanging... Rigid vs Boomkicker

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

I think that on larger boats the rigid vangs are preferred but on the smaller 
boats perhaps the Boomkicker is a better option.  Our 33 has an original 
equipment rigid vang (1987) that I think is Harken.  Works well after many 
years and we have no complaints.  On our J27 we added a US Spars rigid vang 
rather than a boomkicker.  Most J27 opt for the boomkicker in addition to rope 
vang.  I was not all that happy with the US Spars rigid vang on the 27 and the 
other 27 owners all liked their boom kickers.

Those are only my opinions based on personal observations

Mike
Persistence
Halifax

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Gee, Chuck

I guess there are a few folks on the list that like Garhauer vangs.  :).  I put 
one on Touche' in 1999.  Still looks good and works great.  Highly recommend 
one.

I've installed a few Garhauer vangs on other boats and have always had good 
experiences with their support.

I installed a Boomkicker on a J30 several months ago and have a positive 
opinion of that product also.

If it helps your decision, I have sold several rope vangs on eBay. Price ranges 
from about $45 to $90  depending on size and condition.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
On Jan 28, 2016 10:48 AM, "Chuck Saur via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Here's another post to get some experience-based advising.  I am looking to 
purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift (damn thang) which is 
always in the way of everything.   I will also replace the blocks/line I have 
as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on the boom and mast base. I don't want 
hydraulics, but wonder who can recommend which vang/size and other 
considerations (vendor, etc) based on your purchase/use of them.

There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc.  Some are less expensive but 
appear the same.  Thoughts?




Chuck Saur
Morning Sky
C 35-3
Hessel Michigan

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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Chuck,

 

Plus 2 for Garhauer. I have a Garhauer vang on each of my boats. One is over
20 years old, the other 13. Strong. Custom fit to the boat. And really great
customer service from Guido and Mark. You won't find a better value or
anything that works better. I commend your decision to do away with the
"Damned thang", which I always found to be a general PITA .

 

Neil,

 

You are correct that the Boomkicker is less expensive. The K1500 that Chuck
would need would be around $300. The Garhauer just under $500. He would
still need his soft vang. Installation could be pretty straightforward,
unless the existing mast and boom tangs for the soft vang interfere with the
mounting of the hardware for the Boomkicker.

 

That said, my reservation about the Boomkicker is that I have seen, on 5 or
6 occasions over the years, the top of the Boomkicker rod come unpinned from
its mounting. When that happens, the boom ends up in the cockpit when you
drop the sails. That's probably a result of inattention or poor maintenance
on the part of the boat owner, I admit, and certainly the owner of a classic
C will pay better attention to his boat than the average owner. But still.

 

Peter,

 

I agree with Bill's suggestion that you contact Garhauer for new springs if
you think your vang has too much lift in it - though I suspect the weight of
a boom and sails for a 30-1 isn't all that much heavier than those on a 27.
I suspect you will find it is pretty inexpensive and relatively easy to make
the change.

 

A few years ago I had to put a new mast on my 25 (long story about an
inattentive skipper). When I called Garhauer about the installation of the
vang on the new mast, Guido asked me what model vang I had and what profile
Kenyon mast I was installing. He sent me a lower mounting bracket for the
new mast and the cost was less than $50. I mentioned that I had some slop in
the upper mounting , where the tang on the boom was mounted into the top of
the rigid vang, that was probably due to the fact that I had the original
roller furling boom on the boat. He sent me a new set of spacers to correct
the problem at no charge. As I said, great customer service.

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C 38 mk 2

la Belle Aurore C 25 mk1

Washington, NC

 

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

 

If all you want to do is get rid of the topping lift, you might consider
just adding a Boomkicker, which only keeps the boom from falling down.  Then
you could keep your manual vang, would cost quite a bit less.  I'm happy
with that arrangement, though I always put my main halyard on the end of the
boom once the main is down in case someone decides to swing on the boom or
something like that.

Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY



On 1/28/2016 12:47 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List wrote:

Here's another post to get some experience-based advising.  I am looking to
purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift (damn thang) which is
always in the way of everything.   I will also replace the blocks/line I
have as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on the boom and mast base. I don't
want hydraulics, but wonder who can recommend which vang/size and other
considerations (vendor, etc) based on your purchase/use of them.

 

There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc.  Some are less expensive but
appear the same.  Thoughts?

 

 

 




Chuck Saur 

Morning Sky

C 35-3

Hessel Michigan






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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

Repeating a post from a few months back.. I have used a boomkicker on the
J-80 I raced on - have Garhauer on Penniless. No comparison.

 

And. having some experience with a 27, I would think the 30-1's boom is
somewhat heavier. The sticks on a 30-1 are very robust. I would go for
lighter springs.

 

Gary

30-1 

Maryland

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

 

Chuck,

 

Plus 2 for Garhauer. I have a Garhauer vang on each of my boats. One is over
20 years old, the other 13. Strong. Custom fit to the boat. And really great
customer service from Guido and Mark. You won't find a better value or
anything that works better. I commend your decision to do away with the
"Damned thang", which I always found to be a general PITA .

 

Neil,

 

You are correct that the Boomkicker is less expensive. The K1500 that Chuck
would need would be around $300. The Garhauer just under $500. He would
still need his soft vang. Installation could be pretty straightforward,
unless the existing mast and boom tangs for the soft vang interfere with the
mounting of the hardware for the Boomkicker.

 

That said, my reservation about the Boomkicker is that I have seen, on 5 or
6 occasions over the years, the top of the Boomkicker rod come unpinned from
its mounting. When that happens, the boom ends up in the cockpit when you
drop the sails. That's probably a result of inattention or poor maintenance
on the part of the boat owner, I admit, and certainly the owner of a classic
C will pay better attention to his boat than the average owner. But still.

 

Peter,

 

I agree with Bill's suggestion that you contact Garhauer for new springs if
you think your vang has too much lift in it - though I suspect the weight of
a boom and sails for a 30-1 isn't all that much heavier than those on a 27.
I suspect you will find it is pretty inexpensive and relatively easy to make
the change.

 

A few years ago I had to put a new mast on my 25 (long story about an
inattentive skipper). When I called Garhauer about the installation of the
vang on the new mast, Guido asked me what model vang I had and what profile
Kenyon mast I was installing. He sent me a lower mounting bracket for the
new mast and the cost was less than $50. I mentioned that I had some slop in
the upper mounting , where the tang on the boom was mounted into the top of
the rigid vang, that was probably due to the fact that I had the original
roller furling boom on the boat. He sent me a new set of spacers to correct
the problem at no charge. As I said, great customer service.

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C 38 mk 2

la Belle Aurore C 25 mk1

Washington, NC

 

 

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Cc: Neil Gallagher <njgallag...@optonline.net
<mailto:njgallag...@optonline.net> >
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

 

If all you want to do is get rid of the topping lift, you might consider
just adding a Boomkicker, which only keeps the boom from falling down.  Then
you could keep your manual vang, would cost quite a bit less.  I'm happy
with that arrangement, though I always put my main halyard on the end of the
boom once the main is down in case someone decides to swing on the boom or
something like that.

Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY

On 1/28/2016 12:47 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List wrote:

Here's another post to get some experience-based advising.  I am looking to
purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift (damn thang) which is
always in the way of everything.   I will also replace the blocks/line I
have as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on the boom and mast base. I don't
want hydraulics, but wonder who can recommend which vang/size and other
considerations (vendor, etc) based on your purchase/use of them.

 

There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc.  Some are less expensive but
appear the same.  Thoughts?

 

 

 




Chuck Saur 

Morning Sky

C 35-3

Hessel Michigan





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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

I drilled and tapped and used Tef-Gel to prevent corrosion. I will tell you in 
10 year show bad it was to remove them.

 

I was told by numerous sources that if you want pop rivets, you need to use the 
stainless steel ones. They are more difficult to find and even more difficult 
to use (you need a decent river gun)m but they might be an option.

 

Marek

C270 “Legato”

Ottawa, ON

 

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

 

Just installing a Garhauer boom vang on Cat’s Paw this winter.  Do you guys 
recommend aluminum pop rivets - in case I ever need to remove it?  In my 
experience, SS screws tapped into the mast or boom hold fine but are a devil to 
get out because of electrolysis.  The pop rivets can just be drilled out.

Eric Frank
Cat's Paw
C 35 Mk II
Mattapoisett, MA 

 

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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Eric Frank via CnC-List]

Just installing a Garhauer boom vang on Cat’s Paw this winter.  Do you guys 
recommend aluminum pop rivets - in case I ever need to remove it?  In my 
experience, SS screws tapped into the mast or boom hold fine but are a devil to 
get out because of electrolysis.  The pop rivets can just be drilled out.

Eric Frank
Cat's Paw
C 35 Mk II
Mattapoisett, MA

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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Agreed, drill & tap, and use TefGel or something like it as an anti-seize.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Jan 29, 2016, at 4:28 PM, William Walker via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Eric,
>   I would be concerned that aluminum pop rivets wouldn't be strong enough.  
> They may be.  I drilled and tapped for stainless, used antiseize.  Have 
> removed one at a time yearly since just to check.  All good.  
> Bill Walker
> CnC 36
> Evening Star
> Pentwater, Mi
> 
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, January 29, 2016 Eric Frank via CnC-List  > wrote:
> 
> Just installing a Garhauer boom vang on Cat’s Paw this winter.  Do you guys 
> recommend aluminum pop rivets - in case I ever need to remove it?  In my 
> experience, SS screws tapped into the mast or boom hold fine but are a devil 
> to get out because of electrolysis.  The pop rivets can just be drilled out.
> 
> Eric Frank
> Cat's Paw
> C 35 Mk II
> Mattapoisett, MA

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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[William Walker via CnC-List]

Eric,
  I would be concerned that aluminum pop rivets wouldn't be strong enough.  
They may be.  I drilled and tapped for stainless, used antiseize.  Have removed 
one at a time yearly since just to check.  All good.  
Bill Walker
CnC 36
Evening Star
Pentwater, Mi

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On Friday, January 29, 2016 Eric Frank via CnC-List  
wrote:

Just installing a Garhauer boom vang on Cat’s Paw this winter.  Do you guys 
recommend aluminum pop rivets - in case I ever need to remove it?  In my 
experience, SS screws tapped into the mast or boom hold fine but are a devil to 
get out because of electrolysis.  The pop rivets can just be drilled out.

Eric Frank
Cat's Paw
C 35 Mk II
Mattapoisett, MA 


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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Like others have said, either stainless rivets or drill and tap and coat
threads with Tef Gel.  If you don't have a Big Daddy rivet tool, you're
left with drill and tap.  A home type rivet tool can handle aluminum rivets
but will struggle with 1/4 inch SS rivets.  If it doesn't complete the
pull, you'll have to drill it out and try it again.

http://www.amazon.com/Marson-39010-BIG-DADDY-Riveter/dp/B000HAWKTM

Believe me, I've done enough installs to know.

Dennis C.
On Jan 29, 2016 3:18 PM, "Eric Frank via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Just installing a Garhauer boom vang on Cat’s Paw this winter.  Do you
> guys recommend aluminum pop rivets - in case I ever need to remove it?  In
> my experience, SS screws tapped into the mast or boom hold fine but are a
> devil to get out because of electrolysis.  The pop rivets can just be
> drilled out.
>
> Eric Frank
> Cat's Paw
> C 35 Mk II
> Mattapoisett, MA
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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Eric Frank via CnC-List]

Thanks to all of you who responded so quickly about my question of what 
fasteners to use to attach my new boom vang to the mast and boom.  Clearly the 
consensus is to use SS screws with TefGel, not pop rivets.  Just what I needed 
to know.  Thanks!

Eric Frank
Cat's Paw
C 35 Mk II
Mattapoisett, MA

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Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Here's another post to get some experience-based advising.  I am looking to
purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift (damn thang) which
is always in the way of everything.   I will also replace the blocks/line I
have as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on the boom and mast base. I don't
want hydraulics, but wonder who can recommend which vang/size and other
considerations (vendor, etc) based on your purchase/use of them.

There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc.  Some are less expensive but
appear the same.  Thoughts?




*Chuck Saur*
Morning Sky
C 35-3
Hessel Michigan
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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

Agree - been happy for nearly 20 years.

 

Gary

30-1 

Chesapeake

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

 

Garhauer. Extremely high quality and amazing support after the sale.

Bill Bina

On 1/28/2016 12:47 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List wrote:

Here's another post to get some experience-based advising.  I am looking to
purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift (damn thang) which is
always in the way of everything.   I will also replace the blocks/line I
have as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on the boom and mast base. I don't
want hydraulics, but wonder who can recommend which vang/size and other
considerations (vendor, etc) based on your purchase/use of them.

 

There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc.  Some are less expensive but
appear the same.  Thoughts?

 

 

 




Chuck Saur 

Morning Sky

C 35-3

Hessel Michigan





 

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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[John Russo via CnC-List]

I would second the Garhauer experience. They can recommend size and build
flange fit to your mast and great to work with. Try catching them at a boat
show or during a show for best price. 

 

John Russo

Arpeggio C 1984

Norwalk, CT

 

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Garhauer. Extremely high quality and amazing support after the sale.

Bill Bina

On 1/28/2016 12:47 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List wrote:

Here's another post to get some experience-based advising.  I am looking to
purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift (damn thang) which is
always in the way of everything.   I will also replace the blocks/line I
have as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on the boom and mast base. I don't
want hydraulics, but wonder who can recommend which vang/size and other
considerations (vendor, etc) based on your purchase/use of them.

 

There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc.  Some are less expensive but
appear the same.  Thoughts?

 

 

 




Chuck Saur 

Morning Sky

C 35-3

Hessel Michigan





 

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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[wwadjourn]

Garhauer. Call and they will walk through sizing, etc.Bill Walker
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-- Original message--From: Chuck Saur via CnC-List Date: Thu, Jan 28, 
2016 12:48 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Chuck Saur;Subject:Stus-List Boom 
vanging...
Here's another post to get some experience-based advising.  I am looking to 
purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift (damn thang) which is 
always in the way of everything.   I will also replace the blocks/line I have 
as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on the boom and mast base. I don't want 
hydraulics, but wonder who can recommend which vang/size and other 
considerations (vendor, etc) based on your purchase/use of them.
There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc.  Some are less expensive but 
appear the same.  Thoughts?



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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[John Irvin via CnC-List]

Same feelings on Garhauer.

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Sent: ‎2016-‎01-‎28 1:51 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

Garhauer. Call and they will walk through sizing, etc.
Bill Walker


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-- Original message--
From: Chuck Saur via CnC-List 
Date: Thu, Jan 28, 2016 12:48 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;
Cc: Chuck Saur;
Subject:Stus-List Boom vanging...


Here's another post to get some experience-based advising.  I am looking to 
purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift (damn thang) which is 
always in the way of everything.   I will also replace the blocks/line I have 
as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on the boom and mast base. I don't want 
hydraulics, but wonder who can recommend which vang/size and other 
considerations (vendor, etc) based on your purchase/use of them.


There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc.  Some are less expensive but 
appear the same.  Thoughts?








Chuck Saur
Morning Sky
C 35-3
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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Neil Gallagher via CnC-List]

If all you want to do is get rid of the topping lift, you might consider 
just adding a Boomkicker, which only keeps the boom from falling down.  
Then you could keep your manual vang, would cost quite a bit less.  I'm 
happy with that arrangement, though I always put my main halyard on the 
end of the boom once the main is down in case someone decides to swing 
on the boom or something like that.


Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY


On 1/28/2016 12:47 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List wrote:
Here's another post to get some experience-based advising. I am 
looking to purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift 
(damn thang) which is always in the way of everything.   I will also 
replace the blocks/line I have as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on 
the boom and mast base. I don't want hydraulics, but wonder who can 
recommend which vang/size and other considerations (vendor, etc) based 
on your purchase/use of them.


There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc.  Some are less expensive 
but appear the same.  Thoughts?





*Chuck Saur*
Morning Sky
C 35-3
Hessel Michigan


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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Gerry via CnC-List]

Just took delivery of a C 35 MK3 It came with the  Garhauer looks a lot more robust than the Boomkicker.Haven't had a chance to sail her yet. Can't wait for spring.Gerry FennesseyFianna 35-3Andover MA   On 01/28/16, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List wrote:   If all you want to do is get rid of the topping lift, you mightconsider just adding a Boomkicker, which only keeps the boom fromfalling down.  Then you could keep your manual vang, would costquite a bit less.  I'm happy with that arrangement, though I alwaysput my main halyard on the end of the boom once the main is down incase someone decides to swing on the boom or something like that.Neil GallagherWeatherly, 35-1Glen Cove, NYOn 1/28/2016 12:47 PM, Chuck Saur via  CnC-List wrote:  Here's another post to get some experience-based advising.   I am looking to purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the  topping lift (damn thang) which is always in the way of  everything.   I will also replace the blocks/line I have as  manual vang. Tangs are built-in on the boom and mast base. I  don't want hydraulics, but wonder who can recommend which  vang/size and other considerations (vendor, etc) based on your  purchase/use of them.There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc.  Some are  less expensive but appear the same.  Thoughts?Chuck SaurMorning SkyC 35-3Hessel Michigan  ___Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.comTo change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com  ___Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.comTo change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com

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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Doug Allardyce via CnC-List]

Chuck,
I installed a Garhauer RV20-1SL several years ago now. I have an Offshore rig 
so the mast and boom already had the needed brackets for mounting. You will 
want to ask for the strong springs (yellow) when you order it. There are three. 
Great van for main trimming. I lead it back to the cockpit. You will find even 
with the strong springs the boom will be some what springy, so you will 
probably want to keep your topping lift, or put the main halyard on the boom 
when you put the boat away for the day. It will support the boom when I drop 
the main, but again a little spongy. I have a topping lift lead back to the 
cockpit, and leave it a little slack when sailing, and tighten it up after the 
main is down. I hopes this helps.

Doug Allardyce
Bullet 
C 35-3
Detroit
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  -Original Message-
  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Chuck Saur 
via CnC-List
  Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:48 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: Chuck Saur
  Subject: Stus-List Boom vanging...


  Here's another post to get some experience-based advising.  I am looking to 
purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift (damn thang) which is 
always in the way of everything.   I will also replace the blocks/line I have 
as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on the boom and mast base. I don't want 
hydraulics, but wonder who can recommend which vang/size and other 
considerations (vendor, etc) based on your purchase/use of them.


  There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc.  Some are less expensive but 
appear the same.  Thoughts?








  Chuck Saur
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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Gee, Chuck

I guess there are a few folks on the list that like Garhauer vangs.  :).  I
put one on Touche' in 1999.  Still looks good and works great.  Highly
recommend one.

I've installed a few Garhauer vangs on other boats and have always had good
experiences with their support.

I installed a Boomkicker on a J30 several months ago and have a positive
opinion of that product also.

If it helps your decision, I have sold several rope vangs on eBay. Price
ranges from about $45 to $90  depending on size and condition.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
On Jan 28, 2016 10:48 AM, "Chuck Saur via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Here's another post to get some experience-based advising.  I am looking
> to purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift (damn thang)
> which is always in the way of everything.   I will also replace the
> blocks/line I have as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on the boom and mast
> base. I don't want hydraulics, but wonder who can recommend which vang/size
> and other considerations (vendor, etc) based on your purchase/use of them.
>
> There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc.  Some are less expensive but
> appear the same.  Thoughts?
>
>
>
>
> *Chuck Saur*
> Morning Sky
> C 35-3
> Hessel Michigan
>
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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Patrick Davin via CnC-List]

Good timing on this topic, I just finished installing my new Garhauer
RV-20-1SL vang. Thinking about writing a blog post on it (svviolethour.com)
since I've been so happy with it so far (though haven't yet used it
sailing! Just installed 3 days ago).

It's the best deal in boating I've found so far - less than $500 is a
really reasonable price compared to other boating items with comparable
quantities of stainless steel, turning blocks, line and custom SS mast +
boom fittings.

Took about an hour to make the mast/boom templates and 7 hours to install
(cut all these times in 1/2 or 1/4 if you're not a perfectionist like me,
and not learning all these skills from scratch). 1 hour of that was to
remove the existing boom vang U-bolt fitting which was in the boom (hard to
work it down to the end of the boom), and ~2 hours was for fixing the part
I messed up - my center punch hadn't arrived from Amazon yet so the drill
chattered a bit and a couple holes ended up 1/16" - 1/8" off - enough to
not allow tapped machine screws in. Had to dremel out the fitting holes a
little larger with the tungsten carbide cutter.

-Patrick
Seattle, WA
1984 C LF38

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:12 PM, <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> From: Chuck Saur <cssau...@gmail.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 12:47:58 -0500
> Subject: Stus-List Boom vanging...
> Here's another post to get some experience-based advising.  I am looking
> to purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift (damn thang)
> which is always in the way of everything.   I will also replace the
> blocks/line I have as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on the boom and mast
> base. I don't want hydraulics, but wonder who can recommend which vang/size
> and other considerations (vendor, etc) based on your purchase/use of them.
>
> There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc.  Some are less expensive but
> appear the same.  Thoughts?
>
>
>
>
> *Chuck Saur*
> Morning Sky
> C 35-3
> Hessel Michigan
>
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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

I've got a 30 year old Hall, but cost would drive me Garhauer if I needed a
replacement.

Joel
35/3
The Office
Annapolis

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Honey has a 20 year old Hall Quikvang D-30 that has performed flawlessly
> since new.
>
> Jack Fitzgerald
> HONEY
> US12788
> Savannah, GA USA
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I wonder if anyone at Garhauer monitors this list. It almost sounds that
>> we are all their best marketing people (-;).
>>
>>
>>
>> Marek
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail <http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>> Windows 10
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *John Russo via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> *Sent: *January 28, 2016 13:19
>> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc: *John Russo <johnrussob...@optonline.net>
>> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...
>>
>>
>>
>> I would second the Garhauer experience. They can recommend size and build
>> flange fit to your mast and great to work with. Try catching them at a boat
>> show or during a show for best price.
>>
>>
>>
>> John Russo
>>
>> Arpeggio C 1984
>>
>> Norwalk, CT
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill
>> Bina - gmail via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 28, 2016 1:00 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Bill Bina - gmail
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...
>>
>>
>>
>> Garhauer. Extremely high quality and amazing support after the sale.
>>
>> Bill Bina
>>
>> On 1/28/2016 12:47 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List wrote:
>>
>> Here's another post to get some experience-based advising.  I am looking
>> to purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift (damn thang)
>> which is always in the way of everything.   I will also replace the
>> blocks/line I have as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on the boom and mast
>> base. I don't want hydraulics, but wonder who can recommend which vang/size
>> and other considerations (vendor, etc) based on your purchase/use of them.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc.  Some are less expensive
>> but appear the same.  Thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Chuck Saur*
>>
>> Morning Sky
>>
>> C 35-3
>>
>> Hessel Michigan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List]

I agree, you can buy a bunch of Garhauer gear for the price of a new Hall
Quikvang of any size..

Jack Fitzgerald
HONEY - C 39 TM
US12788
Savannah, GA USA

c-list.com <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

> I've got a 30 year old Hall, but cost would drive me Garhauer if I needed
> a replacement.
>
> Joel
> 35/3
> The Office
> Annapolis
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Honey has a 20 year old Hall Quikvang D-30 that has performed flawlessly
>> since new.
>>
>> Jack Fitzgerald
>> HONEY
>> US12788
>> Savannah, GA USA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder if anyone at Garhauer monitors this list. It almost sounds that
>>> we are all their best marketing people (-;).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marek
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Mail <http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>>> Windows 10
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *John Russo via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>> *Sent: *January 28, 2016 13:19
>>> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> *Cc: *John Russo <johnrussob...@optonline.net>
>>> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would second the Garhauer experience. They can recommend size and
>>> build flange fit to your mast and great to work with. Try catching them at
>>> a boat show or during a show for best price.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John Russo
>>>
>>> Arpeggio C 1984
>>>
>>> Norwalk, CT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill
>>> Bina - gmail via CnC-List
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 28, 2016 1:00 PM
>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> *Cc:* Bill Bina - gmail
>>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Garhauer. Extremely high quality and amazing support after the sale.
>>>
>>> Bill Bina
>>>
>>> On 1/28/2016 12:47 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's another post to get some experience-based advising.  I am looking
>>> to purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift (damn thang)
>>> which is always in the way of everything.   I will also replace the
>>> blocks/line I have as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on the boom and mast
>>> base. I don't want hydraulics, but wonder who can recommend which vang/size
>>> and other considerations (vendor, etc) based on your purchase/use of them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc.  Some are less expensive
>>> but appear the same.  Thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Chuck Saur*
>>>
>>> Morning Sky
>>>
>>> C 35-3
>>>
>>> Hessel Michigan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

I have a Boomkicker, but if I were to do it again, I would install Garhauer 
rigid vang. The cost is not that much different, but it seems to me that the 
Garhauer vang is a bit more solid.

Btw. The Boomkicker is pretty strong. I would not seat on the boom, but you can 
lean on it without a problem.

Regardless of what you choose, you will need a vang. And I would strongly 
suggest to run the line to the cockpit – you will use it.

At Garhauer talk to Guido; he will help you figure out the details.

I find that with them, it is easier to talk on the phone than trying to have 
the discussion via email. At least, make the initial contact by phone.

Marek
C270, “Legato “
Ottawa, ON
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From: John Irvin via CnC-List
Sent: January 28, 2016 13:57
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: John Irvin
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

Same feelings on Garhauer.

From: wwadjo...@aol.com via CnC-List
Sent: ‎2016-‎01-‎28 1:51 PM
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Cc: wwadjo...@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...
Garhauer. Call and they will walk through sizing, etc.
Bill Walker

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-- Original message--
From: Chuck Saur via CnC-List 
Date: Thu, Jan 28, 2016 12:48 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;
Cc: Chuck Saur;
Subject:Stus-List Boom vanging...

Here's another post to get some experience-based advising.  I am looking to 
purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift (damn thang) which is 
always in the way of everything.   I will also replace the blocks/line I have 
as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on the boom and mast base. I don't want 
hydraulics, but wonder who can recommend which vang/size and other 
considerations (vendor, etc) based on your purchase/use of them.

There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc.  Some are less expensive but 
appear the same.  Thoughts?





Chuck Saur
Morning Sky
C 35-3
Hessel Michigan

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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

I wonder if anyone at Garhauer monitors this list. It almost sounds that we are 
all their best marketing people (-;). 

Marek

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From: John Russo via CnC-List
Sent: January 28, 2016 13:19
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: John Russo
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

I would second the Garhauer experience. They can recommend size and build 
flange fit to your mast and great to work with. Try catching them at a boat 
show or during a show for best price. 

John Russo
Arpeggio C 1984
Norwalk, CT

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bina - 
gmail via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 1:00 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Bina - gmail
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

Garhauer. Extremely high quality and amazing support after the sale.

Bill Bina
On 1/28/2016 12:47 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List wrote:
Here's another post to get some experience-based advising.  I am looking to 
purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift (damn thang) which is 
always in the way of everything.   I will also replace the blocks/line I have 
as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on the boom and mast base. I don't want 
hydraulics, but wonder who can recommend which vang/size and other 
considerations (vendor, etc) based on your purchase/use of them.

There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc.  Some are less expensive but 
appear the same.  Thoughts?





Chuck Saur 
Morning Sky
C 35-3
Hessel Michigan



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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List]

Honey has a 20 year old Hall Quikvang D-30 that has performed flawlessly
since new.

Jack Fitzgerald
HONEY
US12788
Savannah, GA USA



On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I wonder if anyone at Garhauer monitors this list. It almost sounds that
> we are all their best marketing people (-;).
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> Marek
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> *From: *John Russo via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent: *January 28, 2016 13:19
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> *Cc: *John Russo <johnrussob...@optonline.net>
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...
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> I would second the Garhauer experience. They can recommend size and build
> flange fit to your mast and great to work with. Try catching them at a boat
> show or during a show for best price.
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> John Russo
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> Arpeggio C 1984
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> Norwalk, CT
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> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill
> Bina - gmail via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 28, 2016 1:00 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Bill Bina - gmail
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...
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> Garhauer. Extremely high quality and amazing support after the sale.
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> Bill Bina
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> On 1/28/2016 12:47 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Here's another post to get some experience-based advising.  I am looking
> to purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift (damn thang)
> which is always in the way of everything.   I will also replace the
> blocks/line I have as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on the boom and mast
> base. I don't want hydraulics, but wonder who can recommend which vang/size
> and other considerations (vendor, etc) based on your purchase/use of them.
>
>
>
> There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc.  Some are less expensive but
> appear the same.  Thoughts?
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> *Chuck Saur*
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> Morning Sky
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> C 35-3
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> Hessel Michigan
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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List]

Garhauer. Extremely high quality and amazing support after the sale.

Bill Bina

On 1/28/2016 12:47 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List wrote:
Here's another post to get some experience-based advising. I am 
looking to purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift 
(damn thang) which is always in the way of everything.   I will also 
replace the blocks/line I have as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on 
the boom and mast base. I don't want hydraulics, but wonder who can 
recommend which vang/size and other considerations (vendor, etc) based 
on your purchase/use of them.


There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc.  Some are less expensive 
but appear the same.  Thoughts?





*Chuck Saur*
Morning Sky
C 35-3
Hessel Michigan




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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Peter Fell via CnC-List]

I have a used Garhauer rigid vang that I figure is too big (or borderline) for 
my C 27-3. It’s an older RV20-1 that’s for 28-44ft boats. It came off a C 
30-1.

Anyone out there with a boomkicker or perhaps in the opposite situation with a 
rigid vang that might be interested in a trade?

Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
C 27 MkIII

From: John Russo via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 10:20 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: John Russo 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

I would second the Garhauer experience. They can recommend size and build 
flange fit to your mast and great to work with. Try catching them at a boat 
show or during a show for best price. 

 

John Russo

Arpeggio C 1984

Norwalk, CT

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bina - 
gmail via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 1:00 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Bina - gmail
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

 

Garhauer. Extremely high quality and amazing support after the sale.

Bill Bina

On 1/28/2016 12:47 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List wrote:

  Here's another post to get some experience-based advising.  I am looking to 
purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift (damn thang) which is 
always in the way of everything.   I will also replace the blocks/line I have 
as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on the boom and mast base. I don't want 
hydraulics, but wonder who can recommend which vang/size and other 
considerations (vendor, etc) based on your purchase/use of them.

   

  There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc.  Some are less expensive but 
appear the same.  Thoughts?

   

   

   




  Chuck Saur 

  Morning Sky

  C 35-3

  Hessel Michigan





 




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Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List]

Contact Garhauer by telephone. If you email them, you will be instructed 
to call them on the phone anyway. :-)


http://garhauermarine.com

They can ship you different rated springs to better match your boat. 
It's not a major deal to do this. Every boat is different and sometimes 
a brand new Garhauer vang will have springs that are either too strong 
or too weak. There are a variety of springs to chose from. This is where 
you find out about Garhauer's exceptional service.


Bill Bina

On 1/28/2016 1:31 PM, Peter Fell via CnC-List wrote:
I have a used Garhauer rigid vang that I figure is too big (or 
borderline) for my C 27-3. It’s an older RV20-1 that’s for 28-44ft 
boats. It came off a C 30-1.
Anyone out there with a boomkicker or perhaps in the opposite 
situation with a rigid vang that might be interested in a trade?

Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
C 27 MkIII
*From:* John Russo via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, January 28, 2016 10:20 AM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
*Cc:* John Russo <mailto:johnrussob...@optonline.net>
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Boom vanging...



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