Re: Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef??

2016-06-21 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
+1 for the dogbones. I have them on each reef tack. They work great. 
Marek 


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Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef?? 
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C 30-2 -when to reef?? 

I sewed dogbones for my first and second reefs a few weeks ago...i LOVE them!  
My tack would inevitably come off the reef hook when I was hooking directly 
onto the sail grommet.



Mike

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Re: Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef??

2016-06-21 Thread allen via CnC-List 
Three, maybe four if it's heavy air.  One on helm, one on mainsheet/traveler, 
one/two on Genoa.  I too have adjustable cars and if we're overpowered, we'll 
pull them back and spill off the top of the luff, tension the backstay (mine's 
now hydraulic).  Rarely touch Genoa luff tension.

Allen


From: Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 2:34 PM
To: C List 
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Allen to your question:  


Main
  a.. outhaul

  b.. cunningham 
  c.. backstay tensioner (mech) 
  d.. fixed baby stay (which I am going to remove to the mast) 
  e.. cabin top traveler 
  f.. boom vang 
  g.. Fisherman's reef 
  h.. 1st, 2nd, 3rd reefs 
  i.. halyard tenshion
Head
  a.. backstay tensioner  
  b.. adjustable cars 
  c.. Halyard tension 
  d.. Roller furler (but we change headsails depending on conditions and don't 
partially furl much)
I'm not a Volvo racer, but I do race weekly on a variety of keel boats (racing 
to Hawaii July 12, Pac Cup), and can manage sail shape. Granted my sails are 
tired, and the 30-2 is a great boat albeit a bit tender. 


How much crew do you have on the rail when racing?


Best,
Kevin


On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:00 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

  Port ring comes down and hooks on the stbd horn and vice versa.  Don't try to 
imagine the dogbone as coming down and hooking on both horns.  You can make 
your own dogbone easy with a piece of amsteel and 2 rings.

  Josh Muckley
  S/V Sea Hawk
  1989 C 37+
  Solomons, MD

  On Jun 21, 2016 1:54 PM, "Lorne Serpa via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

Ah ha,  thanks for the link and picture in it.   Dogbone . 

On Jun 21, 2016 11:49 AM, "Josh Muckley via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

  https://goo.gl/images/SFjSqC

  On Jun 21, 2016 12:18 PM, "Lorne Serpa via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Humm,  what's a dog bone?  I'll be sailing 90% single. 

On Jun 21, 2016 10:13 AM, "kelly petew via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

  I, too, carry a 140 genoa, and reef around 12 knots.  I like to  keep 
the boat on its "feet".  So, 10 to 15 degree heel is good for me.  
  Nervous or not, you'll start to feel weather helm at 10 to 12 knots, 
and you'll want to reef [the main 1st] to keep up your speed and reduce 
pressure on the rudder.
   
  You are correct that this boat is "tender".  I believe there is a 
chart in the photoalbum archives that documents this as well as the 30-1's 
stiffness.
  That said, the boat carries a lot of sail area, and it's fast IMO.  
   
  Also, I single-hand a lot and typically start with a reef as a 
prudent measure.
  If you don't already have them on your main, I recommend adding 
"dogbones" to your reef points, to make reefing quick and easy [and reduce the 
possibility of a rip to your sail; they are cheap].
   
  Give a report on your 1st sail.
   
  Pete W.
  Siren Song
  '91 C 30-2 #170
  Deltaville, VA
   
   
   
   
  Message: 6
  Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:25:31 + (UTC)
  From: Allan Rheaume <drumroll30m...@yahoo.ca>
  To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
  Subject: Re: Stus-List 1988 30MkII. When to reef?
  Message-ID:
  <814944704.1736603.1466504731991.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com>
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

  Hi Lorne, I carry a 140% headsail on my 30-2. I usually start getting 
overpowered upwind at around 12 knots true. 

  Al RheaumeDrumroll 30-2 #90



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Re: Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef??

2016-06-21 Thread RANDY via CnC-List 
I've got a 30-1 not a 30-2 but I'll chime in anyway. 

Main: halyard, cunningham, outhaul, adjustable backstay, boom-end sheeting, 
traveler at aft end of cockpit, after-market Garhauer rigid vang (just 
installed), two reef points with single-line slab reefing for both. 

Headsail: halyard, adjustable backstay, adjustable genoa cars on tracks or 
snatch blocks on toe rails (depending on headsail size). Also my #2 genoa 
(~150%) can be reefed at its foot, which I'd never seen on a headsail before 
this boat. I've got two 170s (one heavy one light), a 150, a 130, a jib, and a 
storm jib. 

Plus two "staysails" (one heavy one light) with an adjustable tack track on the 
foredeck. The light one hoists to the masthead via spare headsail halyard (I've 
got two), and the heavy one hoists with the spinnaker pole topping lift. I've 
yet to fly those. 

Cheers, 
Randy 

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From: "allen via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: "allen" <allenmi...@earthlink.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 11:23:03 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef?? 

Hey, all you 30-2 owners. 
I've got to ask what sail controls for head and main do you have? 
Allen Miles 

From: kelly petew via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:12 PM 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: kelly petew 
Subject: Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef?? 

I, too, carry a 140 genoa, and reef around 12 knots. I like to keep the boat on 
its "feet". So, 10 to 15 degree heel is good for me. 
Nervous or not, you'll start to feel weather helm at 10 to 12 knots, and you'll 
want to reef [the main 1st] to keep up your speed and reduce pressure on the 
rudder. 

You are correct that this boat is "tender". I believe there is a chart in the 
photoalbum archives that documents this as well as the 30-1's stiffness. 
That said, the boat carries a lot of sail area, and it's fast IMO. 

Also, I single-hand a lot and typically start with a reef as a prudent measure. 
If you don't already have them on your main, I recommend adding "dogbones" to 
your reef points, to make reefing quick and easy [and reduce the possibility of 
a rip to your sail; they are cheap]. 

Give a report on your 1st sail. 

Pete W. 
Siren Song 
'91 C 30-2 #170 
Deltaville, VA 




Message: 6 
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:25:31 + (UTC) 
From: Allan Rheaume <drumroll30m...@yahoo.ca> 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1988 30MkII. When to reef? 
Message-ID: 
<814944704.1736603.1466504731991.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" 

Hi Lorne, I carry a 140% headsail on my 30-2. I usually start getting 
overpowered upwind at around 12 knots true. 

Al RheaumeDrumroll 30-2 #90 







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Re: Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef??

2016-06-21 Thread Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
Allen to your question:

Main

   - outhaul
   - cunningham
   - backstay tensioner (mech)
   - fixed baby stay (which I am going to remove to the mast)
   - cabin top traveler
   - boom vang
   - Fisherman's reef
   - 1st, 2nd, 3rd reefs
   - halyard tenshion

Head

   - backstay tensioner
   - adjustable cars
   - Halyard tension
   - Roller furler (but we change headsails depending on conditions and
   don't partially furl much)

I'm not a Volvo racer, but I do race weekly on a variety of keel boats
(racing to Hawaii July 12, Pac Cup), and can manage sail shape. Granted my
sails are tired, and the 30-2 is a great boat albeit a bit tender.

How much crew do you have on the rail when racing?

Best,
Kevin

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:00 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Port ring comes down and hooks on the stbd horn and vice versa.  Don't try
> to imagine the dogbone as coming down and hooking on both horns.  You can
> make your own dogbone easy with a piece of amsteel and 2 rings.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Jun 21, 2016 1:54 PM, "Lorne Serpa via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
>> Ah ha,  thanks for the link and picture in it.   Dogbone .
>> On Jun 21, 2016 11:49 AM, "Josh Muckley via CnC-List" <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> https://goo.gl/images/SFjSqC
>>> On Jun 21, 2016 12:18 PM, "Lorne Serpa via CnC-List" <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
 Humm,  what's a dog bone?  I'll be sailing 90% single.
 On Jun 21, 2016 10:13 AM, "kelly petew via CnC-List" <
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I, too, carry a 140 genoa, and reef around 12 knots.  I like to  keep
> the boat on its "feet".  So, 10 to 15 degree heel is good for me.
> Nervous or not, you'll start to feel weather helm at 10 to 12 knots,
> and you'll want to reef [the main 1st] to keep up your speed and reduce
> pressure on the rudder.
>
> You are correct that this boat is "tender".  I believe there is a
> chart in the photoalbum archives that documents this as well as the 30-1's
> stiffness.
> That said, the boat carries a lot of sail area, and it's fast IMO.
>
> Also, I single-hand a lot and typically start with a reef as a prudent
> measure.
> If you don't already have them on your main, I recommend adding
> "dogbones" to your reef points, to make reefing quick and easy [and reduce
> the possibility of a rip to your sail; they are cheap].
>
> Give a report on your 1st sail.
>
> Pete W.
> Siren Song
> '91 C 30-2 #170
> Deltaville, VA
>
>
>
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:25:31 + (UTC)
> From: Allan Rheaume 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1988 30MkII. When to reef?
> Message-ID:
> <814944704.1736603.1466504731991.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi Lorne, I carry a 140% headsail on my 30-2. I usually start getting
> overpowered upwind at around 12 knots true.
>
> Al RheaumeDrumroll 30-2 #90
>
>
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Re: Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef??

2016-06-21 Thread allen via CnC-List 
Standard Deck from manual
Starboard  out to inboard:  Main Halyard, Boom Vang, Starboard Wing halyard, 
2nd reef, main sheet
Port :Port Wing halyard, Cunningham, 1st reef, outhaul

My main sheet comes off the bridge deck. Backstay adjuster starboard aft.

Allen Miles


From: Lorne Serpa via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 1:35 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Lorne Serpa 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef??


Since my boat is along way away... My pictures I took show:
Port side: jib halyard,  outhaul,  reef 1, and one line in the clutch that 
isn't labeled. 

Starboard 
Two 3 pack clutches :Boom Vang,  Cunningham, and the rest I can't read of which 
one is empty. 

On Jun 21, 2016 11:24 AM, "allen via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

  Hey, all you 30-2 owners.

  I've got to ask what sail controls for head and main do you have?

  Allen Miles


  From: kelly petew via CnC-List 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:12 PM
  To: cnc-list 
  Cc: kelly petew 
  Subject: Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef??


  I, too, carry a 140 genoa, and reef around 12 knots.  I like to  keep the 
boat on its "feet".  So, 10 to 15 degree heel is good for me.  
  Nervous or not, you'll start to feel weather helm at 10 to 12 knots, and 
you'll want to reef [the main 1st] to keep up your speed and reduce pressure on 
the rudder.
   
  You are correct that this boat is "tender".  I believe there is a chart in 
the photoalbum archives that documents this as well as the 30-1's stiffness.
  That said, the boat carries a lot of sail area, and it's fast IMO.  
   
  Also, I single-hand a lot and typically start with a reef as a prudent 
measure.
  If you don't already have them on your main, I recommend adding "dogbones" to 
your reef points, to make reefing quick and easy [and reduce the possibility of 
a rip to your sail; they are cheap].
   
  Give a report on your 1st sail.
   
  Pete W.
  Siren Song
  '91 C 30-2 #170
  Deltaville, VA
   
   
   
   
  Message: 6
  Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:25:31 + (UTC)
  From: Allan Rheaume <drumroll30m...@yahoo.ca>
  To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
  Subject: Re: Stus-List 1988 30MkII. When to reef?
  Message-ID:
  <814944704.1736603.1466504731991.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com>
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

  Hi Lorne, I carry a 140% headsail on my 30-2. I usually start getting 
overpowered upwind at around 12 knots true. 

  Al RheaumeDrumroll 30-2 #90




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Re: Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef??

2016-06-21 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
Port ring comes down and hooks on the stbd horn and vice versa.  Don't try
to imagine the dogbone as coming down and hooking on both horns.  You can
make your own dogbone easy with a piece of amsteel and 2 rings.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Jun 21, 2016 1:54 PM, "Lorne Serpa via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Ah ha,  thanks for the link and picture in it.   Dogbone .
> On Jun 21, 2016 11:49 AM, "Josh Muckley via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> https://goo.gl/images/SFjSqC
>> On Jun 21, 2016 12:18 PM, "Lorne Serpa via CnC-List" <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Humm,  what's a dog bone?  I'll be sailing 90% single.
>>> On Jun 21, 2016 10:13 AM, "kelly petew via CnC-List" <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
 I, too, carry a 140 genoa, and reef around 12 knots.  I like to  keep
 the boat on its "feet".  So, 10 to 15 degree heel is good for me.
 Nervous or not, you'll start to feel weather helm at 10 to 12 knots,
 and you'll want to reef [the main 1st] to keep up your speed and reduce
 pressure on the rudder.

 You are correct that this boat is "tender".  I believe there is a chart
 in the photoalbum archives that documents this as well as the 30-1's
 stiffness.
 That said, the boat carries a lot of sail area, and it's fast IMO.

 Also, I single-hand a lot and typically start with a reef as a prudent
 measure.
 If you don't already have them on your main, I recommend adding
 "dogbones" to your reef points, to make reefing quick and easy [and reduce
 the possibility of a rip to your sail; they are cheap].

 Give a report on your 1st sail.

 Pete W.
 Siren Song
 '91 C 30-2 #170
 Deltaville, VA




 Message: 6
 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:25:31 + (UTC)
 From: Allan Rheaume 
 To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
 Subject: Re: Stus-List 1988 30MkII. When to reef?
 Message-ID:
 <814944704.1736603.1466504731991.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com>
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

 Hi Lorne, I carry a 140% headsail on my 30-2. I usually start getting
 overpowered upwind at around 12 knots true.

 Al RheaumeDrumroll 30-2 #90


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Re: Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef??

2016-06-21 Thread Lorne Serpa via CnC-List 
Ah ha,  thanks for the link and picture in it.   Dogbone .
On Jun 21, 2016 11:49 AM, "Josh Muckley via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> https://goo.gl/images/SFjSqC
> On Jun 21, 2016 12:18 PM, "Lorne Serpa via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Humm,  what's a dog bone?  I'll be sailing 90% single.
>> On Jun 21, 2016 10:13 AM, "kelly petew via CnC-List" <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I, too, carry a 140 genoa, and reef around 12 knots.  I like to  keep
>>> the boat on its "feet".  So, 10 to 15 degree heel is good for me.
>>> Nervous or not, you'll start to feel weather helm at 10 to 12 knots, and
>>> you'll want to reef [the main 1st] to keep up your speed and reduce
>>> pressure on the rudder.
>>>
>>> You are correct that this boat is "tender".  I believe there is a chart
>>> in the photoalbum archives that documents this as well as the 30-1's
>>> stiffness.
>>> That said, the boat carries a lot of sail area, and it's fast IMO.
>>>
>>> Also, I single-hand a lot and typically start with a reef as a prudent
>>> measure.
>>> If you don't already have them on your main, I recommend adding
>>> "dogbones" to your reef points, to make reefing quick and easy [and reduce
>>> the possibility of a rip to your sail; they are cheap].
>>>
>>> Give a report on your 1st sail.
>>>
>>> Pete W.
>>> Siren Song
>>> '91 C 30-2 #170
>>> Deltaville, VA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:25:31 + (UTC)
>>> From: Allan Rheaume 
>>> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1988 30MkII. When to reef?
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <814944704.1736603.1466504731991.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> Hi Lorne, I carry a 140% headsail on my 30-2. I usually start getting
>>> overpowered upwind at around 12 knots true.
>>>
>>> Al RheaumeDrumroll 30-2 #90
>>>
>>>
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Re: Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef??

2016-06-21 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
https://goo.gl/images/SFjSqC
On Jun 21, 2016 12:18 PM, "Lorne Serpa via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Humm,  what's a dog bone?  I'll be sailing 90% single.
> On Jun 21, 2016 10:13 AM, "kelly petew via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I, too, carry a 140 genoa, and reef around 12 knots.  I like to  keep the
>> boat on its "feet".  So, 10 to 15 degree heel is good for me.
>> Nervous or not, you'll start to feel weather helm at 10 to 12 knots, and
>> you'll want to reef [the main 1st] to keep up your speed and reduce
>> pressure on the rudder.
>>
>> You are correct that this boat is "tender".  I believe there is a chart
>> in the photoalbum archives that documents this as well as the 30-1's
>> stiffness.
>> That said, the boat carries a lot of sail area, and it's fast IMO.
>>
>> Also, I single-hand a lot and typically start with a reef as a prudent
>> measure.
>> If you don't already have them on your main, I recommend adding
>> "dogbones" to your reef points, to make reefing quick and easy [and reduce
>> the possibility of a rip to your sail; they are cheap].
>>
>> Give a report on your 1st sail.
>>
>> Pete W.
>> Siren Song
>> '91 C 30-2 #170
>> Deltaville, VA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:25:31 + (UTC)
>> From: Allan Rheaume 
>> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1988 30MkII. When to reef?
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>> Hi Lorne, I carry a 140% headsail on my 30-2. I usually start getting
>> overpowered upwind at around 12 knots true.
>>
>> Al RheaumeDrumroll 30-2 #90
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Re: Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef??

2016-06-21 Thread Lorne Serpa via CnC-List 
Since my boat is along way away... My pictures I took show:
Port side: jib halyard,  outhaul,  reef 1, and one line in the clutch that
isn't labeled.

Starboard
Two 3 pack clutches :Boom Vang,  Cunningham, and the rest I can't read of
which one is empty.
On Jun 21, 2016 11:24 AM, "allen via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Hey, all you 30-2 owners.
>
> I've got to ask what sail controls for head and main do you have?
>
> Allen Miles
>
> *From:* kelly petew via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:12 PM
> *To:* cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Cc:* kelly petew <kellype...@msn.com>
> *Subject:* Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef??
>
> I, too, carry a 140 genoa, and reef around 12 knots.  I like to  keep the
> boat on its "feet".  So, 10 to 15 degree heel is good for me.
> Nervous or not, you'll start to feel weather helm at 10 to 12 knots, and
> you'll want to reef [the main 1st] to keep up your speed and reduce
> pressure on the rudder.
>
> You are correct that this boat is "tender".  I believe there is a chart in
> the photoalbum archives that documents this as well as the 30-1's stiffness.
> That said, the boat carries a lot of sail area, and it's fast IMO.
>
> Also, I single-hand a lot and typically start with a reef as a prudent
> measure.
> If you don't already have them on your main, I recommend adding "dogbones"
> to your reef points, to make reefing quick and easy [and reduce the
> possibility of a rip to your sail; they are cheap].
>
> Give a report on your 1st sail.
>
> Pete W.
> Siren Song
> '91 C 30-2 #170
> Deltaville, VA
>
>
>
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:25:31 + (UTC)
> From: Allan Rheaume <drumroll30m...@yahoo.ca>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1988 30MkII. When to reef?
> Message-ID:
> <814944704.1736603.1466504731991.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi Lorne, I carry a 140% headsail on my 30-2. I usually start getting
> overpowered upwind at around 12 knots true.
>
> Al RheaumeDrumroll 30-2 #90
>
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Re: Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef??

2016-06-21 Thread allen via CnC-List 
Hey, all you 30-2 owners.

I've got to ask what sail controls for head and main do you have?

Allen Miles


From: kelly petew via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:12 PM
To: cnc-list 
Cc: kelly petew 
Subject: Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef??


I, too, carry a 140 genoa, and reef around 12 knots.  I like to  keep the boat 
on its "feet".  So, 10 to 15 degree heel is good for me.  
Nervous or not, you'll start to feel weather helm at 10 to 12 knots, and you'll 
want to reef [the main 1st] to keep up your speed and reduce pressure on the 
rudder.
 
You are correct that this boat is "tender".  I believe there is a chart in the 
photoalbum archives that documents this as well as the 30-1's stiffness.
That said, the boat carries a lot of sail area, and it's fast IMO.  
 
Also, I single-hand a lot and typically start with a reef as a prudent measure.
If you don't already have them on your main, I recommend adding "dogbones" to 
your reef points, to make reefing quick and easy [and reduce the possibility of 
a rip to your sail; they are cheap].
 
Give a report on your 1st sail.
 
Pete W.
Siren Song
'91 C 30-2 #170
Deltaville, VA
 
 
 
 
Message: 6
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:25:31 + (UTC)
From: Allan Rheaume <drumroll30m...@yahoo.ca>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1988 30MkII. When to reef?
Message-ID:
<814944704.1736603.1466504731991.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi Lorne, I carry a 140% headsail on my 30-2. I usually start getting 
overpowered upwind at around 12 knots true. 

Al RheaumeDrumroll 30-2 #90







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Re: Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef??

2016-06-21 Thread Michael Crombie via CnC-List 
I sewed dogbones for my first and second reefs a few weeks ago...i LOVE them!  
My tack would inevitably come off the reef hook when I was hooking directly 
onto the sail grommet.

Mike
Atacama 33ii. 
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Re: Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef??

2016-06-21 Thread Lorne Serpa via CnC-List 
Humm,  what's a dog bone?  I'll be sailing 90% single.
On Jun 21, 2016 10:13 AM, "kelly petew via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> I, too, carry a 140 genoa, and reef around 12 knots.  I like to  keep the
> boat on its "feet".  So, 10 to 15 degree heel is good for me.
> Nervous or not, you'll start to feel weather helm at 10 to 12 knots, and
> you'll want to reef [the main 1st] to keep up your speed and reduce
> pressure on the rudder.
>
> You are correct that this boat is "tender".  I believe there is a chart in
> the photoalbum archives that documents this as well as the 30-1's stiffness.
> That said, the boat carries a lot of sail area, and it's fast IMO.
>
> Also, I single-hand a lot and typically start with a reef as a prudent
> measure.
> If you don't already have them on your main, I recommend adding "dogbones"
> to your reef points, to make reefing quick and easy [and reduce the
> possibility of a rip to your sail; they are cheap].
>
> Give a report on your 1st sail.
>
> Pete W.
> Siren Song
> '91 C 30-2 #170
> Deltaville, VA
>
>
>
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:25:31 + (UTC)
> From: Allan Rheaume 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1988 30MkII. When to reef?
> Message-ID:
> <814944704.1736603.1466504731991.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi Lorne, I carry a 140% headsail on my 30-2. I usually start getting
> overpowered upwind at around 12 knots true.
>
> Al RheaumeDrumroll 30-2 #90
>
>
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Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef??

2016-06-21 Thread kelly petew via CnC-List 
I, too, carry a 140 genoa, and reef around 12 knots.  I like to  keep the boat 
on its "feet".  So, 10 to 15 degree heel is good for me.  
Nervous or not, you'll start to feel weather helm at 10 to 12 knots, and you'll 
want to reef [the main 1st] to keep up your speed and reduce pressure on the 
rudder.
 
You are correct that this boat is "tender".  I believe there is a chart in the 
photoalbum archives that documents this as well as the 30-1's stiffness.
That said, the boat carries a lot of sail area, and it's fast IMO.  
 
Also, I single-hand a lot and typically start with a reef as a prudent measure.
If you don't already have them on your main, I recommend adding "dogbones" to 
your reef points, to make reefing quick and easy [and reduce the possibility of 
a rip to your sail; they are cheap].
 
Give a report on your 1st sail.
 
Pete W.
Siren Song
'91 C 30-2 #170
Deltaville, VA
 
 
 
 
Message: 6
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:25:31 + (UTC)
From: Allan Rheaume 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1988 30MkII. When to reef?
Message-ID:
<814944704.1736603.1466504731991.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi Lorne, I carry a 140% headsail on my 30-2. I usually start getting 
overpowered upwind at around 12 knots true. 

Al RheaumeDrumroll 30-2 #90

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