Re: Stus-List C 34 - steering cable

2019-05-10 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
Per Edson’s instructions, both nuts go on the “bitter end” of the cable.  One 
is to tension the cable, the other is a locking nut to prevent the other nut 
from coming loose.
FWIW, if you’re dealing with a swaged threaded rod on the end of the cable and 
chain, you’re using a 38 year old steering component that is recommended to be 
changed every 10 years.  So cut the cable, remove the threaded rod from the 
radial drive, get a new chain/cable set up with take up eyes and rope clamps 
and be happy the old one never failed!
Chuck Gilchrest 
1983 Landfall 35

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> On May 10, 2019, at 10:05 AM, DMcMillan via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> There is not enough slack in the cable to pull it off the quadrant – if I 
> could do this there would be enough slack to pull the end of the chain up 
> through the binnacle for inspection, but now the only way to get more slack 
> is to take a pulley off, something I am reluctant to do.
>  
> We tried tightening the nut to break the stud out, but no luck (but it has 
> not been treated with penetrating oil yet).There is no nut on the cable 
> side of the stud, but I think it is a good idea to do this when re-assembling.
>  
> Dennis
> Andante
> C 34 (1981)
> Victoria, BC
>  
> From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Dennis C. via 
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> Cc: Dennis C. 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C 34 - steering cable
>  
> How much slack is in the cable?  Can you put the nut back on and try to 
> tighten it to pull the stud through the hole a bit and break it loose?
>  
> Also, there should be a nut on the cable side of the stud.  That is, on each 
> side of the hole in the quadrant.  See:
>  
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1E8roNobdRFd7kJQj40cMM5MNYy7F6Q9e
>  
> Were that the case, you could have used that nut to possibly pull the stud 
> out.
>  
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>  
> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 9:56 AM DMcMillan via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> We have a 1981 C and want to do an inspection of the chain within the 
> binnacle that connects to the steering cable.  To do this the cable must be 
> disconnected from the quadrant in order to pull the chain up through the 
> binnacle once the compass is removed. Once out I intend to inspect the links 
> for cracks with a magnifying glass.  The wire cable itself has a screw 
> fitting swaged on to it and the screw fitting passes through a hole in the 
> quadrant and is secured with two nuts.  With the nuts backed off the screw 
> fitting would not budge, and it appears the stainless screw is corroded in 
> the hole in the aluminum (?) quadrant.Does anyone have suggestions on 
> getting the screw fitting out of the hole without damaging the fitting or the 
> quadrant.  Access is quite limited.   See photos at:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/xWoCWrkJxzRaDLaF6
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Dennis
> Andante
> C 34
> Victoria, BC
>  
>  
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Re: Stus-List C 34 - steering cable

2019-05-10 Thread DMcMillan via CnC-List
There is not enough slack in the cable to pull it off the quadrant – if I could 
do this there would be enough slack to pull the end of the chain up through the 
binnacle for inspection, but now the only way to get more slack is to take a 
pulley off, something I am reluctant to do.

 

We tried tightening the nut to break the stud out, but no luck (but it has not 
been treated with penetrating oil yet).There is no nut on the cable side of 
the stud, but I think it is a good idea to do this when re-assembling.

 

Dennis

Andante

C 34 (1981)

Victoria, BC

 

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Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 34 - steering cable

 

How much slack is in the cable?  Can you put the nut back on and try to tighten 
it to pull the stud through the hole a bit and break it loose?

 

Also, there should be a nut on the cable side of the stud.  That is, on each 
side of the hole in the quadrant.  See:

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1E8roNobdRFd7kJQj40cMM5MNYy7F6Q9e

 

Were that the case, you could have used that nut to possibly pull the stud out.

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 9:56 AM DMcMillan via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

We have a 1981 C and want to do an inspection of the chain within the 
binnacle that connects to the steering cable.  To do this the cable must be 
disconnected from the quadrant in order to pull the chain up through the 
binnacle once the compass is removed. Once out I intend to inspect the links 
for cracks with a magnifying glass.  The wire cable itself has a screw fitting 
swaged on to it and the screw fitting passes through a hole in the quadrant and 
is secured with two nuts.  With the nuts backed off the screw fitting would not 
budge, and it appears the stainless screw is corroded in the hole in the 
aluminum (?) quadrant.Does anyone have suggestions on getting the screw 
fitting out of the hole without damaging the fitting or the quadrant.  Access 
is quite limited.   See photos at:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/xWoCWrkJxzRaDLaF6 

 

Thanks

 

Dennis

Andante

C 34

Victoria, BC

 

 

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Re: Stus-List C 34 - steering cable

2019-05-10 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
How much slack is in the cable?  Can you put the nut back on and try to
tighten it to pull the stud through the hole a bit and break it loose?

Also, there should be a nut on the cable side of the stud.  That is, on
each side of the hole in the quadrant.  See:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1E8roNobdRFd7kJQj40cMM5MNYy7F6Q9e

Were that the case, you could have used that nut to possibly pull the stud
out.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 9:56 AM DMcMillan via CnC-List 
wrote:

> We have a 1981 C and want to do an inspection of the chain within the
> binnacle that connects to the steering cable.  To do this the cable must be
> disconnected from the quadrant in order to pull the chain up through the
> binnacle once the compass is removed. Once out I intend to inspect the
> links for cracks with a magnifying glass.  The wire cable itself has a
> screw fitting swaged on to it and the screw fitting passes through a hole
> in the quadrant and is secured with two nuts.  With the nuts backed off the
> screw fitting would not budge, and it appears the stainless screw is
> corroded in the hole in the aluminum (?) quadrant.Does anyone have
> suggestions on getting the screw fitting out of the hole without damaging
> the fitting or the quadrant.  Access is quite limited.   See photos at:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/xWoCWrkJxzRaDLaF6
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Dennis
>
> Andante
>
> C 34
>
> Victoria, BC
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List C 34 - steering cable

2019-05-10 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List
I read a pretty authoritative article that ranked a 50/50 mix of ATF and 
Acetone as being more effective than any of the commercial products.  I keep 
some in a squirt can on board.Just my $.02 worth.Bruce Whitmore Sent from my 
Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 Date: 5/10/19  6:00 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: C List 
 Cc: Josh Muckley  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List C 34 - steering cable I don't think there is anything else holding 
the screw, just corrosion.  Try twisting, rocking, pushing and pulling.  I find 
PB Blaster pretty effective too.There should be 4 bolts that hold the 2 halves 
of the quadrant together.  If push comes to shove you might just disassemble 
there.Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+Solomons, MD On Thu, May 9, 2019, 
10:56 AM DMcMillan via CnC-List  wrote:We have a 1981 
C and want to do an inspection of the chain within the binnacle that 
connects to the steering cable.  To do this the cable must be disconnected from 
the quadrant in order to pull the chain up through the binnacle once the 
compass is removed. Once out I intend to inspect the links for cracks with a 
magnifying glass.  The wire cable itself has a screw fitting swaged on to it 
and the screw fitting passes through a hole in the quadrant and is secured with 
two nuts.  With the nuts backed off the screw fitting would not budge, and it 
appears the stainless screw is corroded in the hole in the aluminum (?) 
quadrant.    Does anyone have suggestions on getting the screw fitting out of 
the hole without damaging the fitting or the quadrant.  Access is quite 
limited.   See photos at:https://photos.app.goo.gl/xWoCWrkJxzRaDLaF6  Thanks 
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Re: Stus-List C 34 - steering cable

2019-05-10 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I don't think there is anything else holding the screw, just corrosion.
Try twisting, rocking, pushing and pulling.  I find PB Blaster pretty
effective too.

There should be 4 bolts that hold the 2 halves of the quadrant together.
If push comes to shove you might just disassemble there.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Thu, May 9, 2019, 10:56 AM DMcMillan via CnC-List 
wrote:

> We have a 1981 C and want to do an inspection of the chain within the
> binnacle that connects to the steering cable.  To do this the cable must be
> disconnected from the quadrant in order to pull the chain up through the
> binnacle once the compass is removed. Once out I intend to inspect the
> links for cracks with a magnifying glass.  The wire cable itself has a
> screw fitting swaged on to it and the screw fitting passes through a hole
> in the quadrant and is secured with two nuts.  With the nuts backed off the
> screw fitting would not budge, and it appears the stainless screw is
> corroded in the hole in the aluminum (?) quadrant.Does anyone have
> suggestions on getting the screw fitting out of the hole without damaging
> the fitting or the quadrant.  Access is quite limited.   See photos at:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/xWoCWrkJxzRaDLaF6
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Dennis
>
> Andante
>
> C 34
>
> Victoria, BC
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List C 34 - steering cable

2019-05-09 Thread DMcMillan via CnC-List
We have a 1981 C and want to do an inspection of the chain within the
binnacle that connects to the steering cable.  To do this the cable must be
disconnected from the quadrant in order to pull the chain up through the
binnacle once the compass is removed. Once out I intend to inspect the links
for cracks with a magnifying glass.  The wire cable itself has a screw
fitting swaged on to it and the screw fitting passes through a hole in the
quadrant and is secured with two nuts.  With the nuts backed off the screw
fitting would not budge, and it appears the stainless screw is corroded in
the hole in the aluminum (?) quadrant.Does anyone have suggestions on
getting the screw fitting out of the hole without damaging the fitting or
the quadrant.  Access is quite limited.   See photos at:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/xWoCWrkJxzRaDLaF6 

 

Thanks

 

Dennis

Andante

C 34

Victoria, BC

 

 

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