Re: Stus-List CC 38 Bilge Pump
The best emergency pump is one where you can bring the pump to the problem. If the pick up for the pump is midships or further aft and a hull breech is in the bow, the ship is likely to start sinking bow first and raising the pickup well above the rising water. This is not uncommon when sailboats strike semi-submerged objects in the water. Chuck Gilchrest S/V Half Magic 1983 35 Landfall Padanaram MA Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 3, 2017, at 10:57 AM, coltrek via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > They say that the best pump ever invented is two terrified men and a bucket ! > > > > Regards, > > Bill Coleman > C 39 > > > Original message > From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Date: 4/3/17 10:26 (GMT-05:00) > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> > Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 38 Bilge Pump > > IMHO: > There are two kinds of bilge pumps. > 1 - routine: These get the standard daily leaks. Capacity is not important, > being able to be mounted low down and being reliable is. For a modern > fiberglass boat, you have an issue if even the smallest pump is running all > the time at the dock or underway in calm weather. None of my pumps are > automatic and I have no issue with water over a 2-3 week period. > 2 - emergency - Anything but the very largest pumps you can fit are not going > to keep up with even one thru-hull and none of them will sit low enough to be > good for routine use. The one time a plumbing malfunction* had water almost > to the bunks at 0100 I can tell you my big hand pump was doing more than BOTH > of my 500 GPH electrical pumps. Motivation is key here :) Also bought a float > for a bilge alarm after that ;) > > Joe > Coquina > C 35 MK I > > > * When installing a new engine, I managed to hit the loop I had in a pump > outlet and move it from a couple inches above the static water line to an > inch lower. It made a dandy siphon with everyone and all the gear aboard when > it did not unloaded at the dock. > ! > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish > to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List CC 38 Bilge Pump
They say that the best pump ever invented is two terrified men and a bucket ! Regards, Bill ColemanC 39 Original message From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 4/3/17 10:26 (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 38 Bilge Pump IMHO: There are two kinds of bilge pumps. 1 - routine: These get the standard daily leaks. Capacity is not important, being able to be mounted low down and being reliable is. For a modern fiberglass boat, you have an issue if even the smallest pump is running all the time at the dock or underway in calm weather. None of my pumps are automatic and I have no issue with water over a 2-3 week period. 2 - emergency - Anything but the very largest pumps you can fit are not going to keep up with even one thru-hull and none of them will sit low enough to be good for routine use. The one time a plumbing malfunction* had water almost to the bunks at 0100 I can tell you my big hand pump was doing more than BOTH of my 500 GPH electrical pumps. Motivation is key here :) Also bought a float for a bilge alarm after that ;) Joe Coquina C 35 MK I * When installing a new engine, I managed to hit the loop I had in a pump outlet and move it from a couple inches above the static water line to an inch lower. It made a dandy siphon with everyone and all the gear aboard when it did not unloaded at the dock. ! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Stus-List CC 38 Bilge Pump
Joe, I'm a big believer in bilge pumps. Pegathy has 2, 2000 gph each, on separate float switches and separate toggle switches. I've had pumps fail many times, for unknown reasons. More than increasing your capacity, I'd recommend installing a spare pump with the float switch set slightly higher than the primary pump, just in case of failure. Pretty cheap insurance, if you ask me. Dan SheerPegathy - LF 38Rock Creek off the Patapsco ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List CC 38 Bilge Pump
I also put one of these on board: https://www.amazon.com/BECKSON-MARINE-524C-Beckson-Thirsy/dp/B009XCO2Z0 -Original Message- From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 10:26 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 38 Bilge Pump IMHO: There are two kinds of bilge pumps. 1 - routine: These get the standard daily leaks. Capacity is not important, being able to be mounted low down and being reliable is. For a modern fiberglass boat, you have an issue if even the smallest pump is running all the time at the dock or underway in calm weather. None of my pumps are automatic and I have no issue with water over a 2-3 week period. 2 - emergency - Anything but the very largest pumps you can fit are not going to keep up with even one thru-hull and none of them will sit low enough to be good for routine use. The one time a plumbing malfunction* had water almost to the bunks at 0100 I can tell you my big hand pump was doing more than BOTH of my 500 GPH electrical pumps. Motivation is key here :) Also bought a float for a bilge alarm after that ;) Joe Coquina C 35 MK I * When installing a new engine, I managed to hit the loop I had in a pump outlet and move it from a couple inches above the static water line to an inch lower. It made a dandy siphon with everyone and all the gear aboard when it did not unloaded at the dock. -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 6:04 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bruce Whitmore <bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 38 Bilge Pump I just finished replacing a rule pump in the deep bilge on my 37/40+ with a Whale Gulper and a water witch switch. I have a Rule 800 gah in another spot. The Rule is way weak by comparison. I mounted the whale gulper somewhat remotely. I feel as though, despite it being rated at 300 gph that is much more effective than any Rule pump I've ever owned. Just my $ .02 worth... Kindest Regards, Bruce 847.404.5092 Please forgive any typos as this was sent from my iPhone. On Apr 2, 2017, at 8:35 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Joe, 800gph seems plenty. It will rid your bilge of pesky water seepage in no time. If you have a serious hull breach, a much larger pump will be required, Jake Jake Brodersen C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress" Hampton VA -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Scott via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 19:10 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joseph Scott <joseph.sco...@icloud.com> Subject: Stus-List CC 38 Bilge Pump Hey All I need to replace the automatic electric bilge pump. Currently the boat has a rule 800gph on a float switch. I feel this is woefully inadequate but am struggling with finding the space in the bilge for something larger not to mention the fact that the thru hull to go overboard will accept 3/4" hose. What do you guys use? Thanks for any help Joe Sent from my iPad ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List CC 38 Bilge Pump
IMHO: There are two kinds of bilge pumps. 1 - routine: These get the standard daily leaks. Capacity is not important, being able to be mounted low down and being reliable is. For a modern fiberglass boat, you have an issue if even the smallest pump is running all the time at the dock or underway in calm weather. None of my pumps are automatic and I have no issue with water over a 2-3 week period. 2 - emergency - Anything but the very largest pumps you can fit are not going to keep up with even one thru-hull and none of them will sit low enough to be good for routine use. The one time a plumbing malfunction* had water almost to the bunks at 0100 I can tell you my big hand pump was doing more than BOTH of my 500 GPH electrical pumps. Motivation is key here :) Also bought a float for a bilge alarm after that ;) Joe Coquina C 35 MK I * When installing a new engine, I managed to hit the loop I had in a pump outlet and move it from a couple inches above the static water line to an inch lower. It made a dandy siphon with everyone and all the gear aboard when it did not unloaded at the dock. -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 6:04 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bruce Whitmore <bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 38 Bilge Pump I just finished replacing a rule pump in the deep bilge on my 37/40+ with a Whale Gulper and a water witch switch. I have a Rule 800 gah in another spot. The Rule is way weak by comparison. I mounted the whale gulper somewhat remotely. I feel as though, despite it being rated at 300 gph that is much more effective than any Rule pump I've ever owned. Just my $ .02 worth... Kindest Regards, Bruce 847.404.5092 Please forgive any typos as this was sent from my iPhone. > On Apr 2, 2017, at 8:35 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Joe, > > 800gph seems plenty. It will rid your bilge of pesky water seepage in > no time. If you have a serious hull breach, a much larger pump will > be required, > > Jake > > Jake Brodersen > C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress" > Hampton VA > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > Joseph Scott via CnC-List > Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 19:10 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Joseph Scott <joseph.sco...@icloud.com> > Subject: Stus-List CC 38 Bilge Pump > > Hey All > > I need to replace the automatic electric bilge pump. Currently the > boat has a rule 800gph on a float switch. I feel this is woefully > inadequate but am struggling with finding the space in the bilge for > something larger not to mention the fact that the thru hull to go overboard > will accept 3/4" hose. > What do you guys use? > > Thanks for any help > > Joe > > Sent from my iPad > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If > you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If > you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List CC 38 Bilge Pump
I just finished replacing a rule pump in the deep bilge on my 37/40+ with a Whale Gulper and a water witch switch. I have a Rule 800 gah in another spot. The Rule is way weak by comparison. I mounted the whale gulper somewhat remotely. I feel as though, despite it being rated at 300 gph that is much more effective than any Rule pump I've ever owned. Just my $ .02 worth... Kindest Regards, Bruce 847.404.5092 Please forgive any typos as this was sent from my iPhone. > On Apr 2, 2017, at 8:35 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Joe, > > 800gph seems plenty. It will rid your bilge of pesky water seepage in no > time. If you have a serious hull breach, a much larger pump will be > required, > > Jake > > Jake Brodersen > C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress" > Hampton VA > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joseph > Scott via CnC-List > Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 19:10 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Joseph Scott <joseph.sco...@icloud.com> > Subject: Stus-List CC 38 Bilge Pump > > Hey All > > I need to replace the automatic electric bilge pump. Currently the boat has > a rule 800gph on a float switch. I feel this is woefully inadequate but am > struggling with finding the space in the bilge for something larger not to > mention the fact that the thru hull to go overboard will accept 3/4" hose. > What do you guys use? > > Thanks for any help > > Joe > > Sent from my iPad > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish > to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish > to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List CC 38 Bilge Pump
Joe, 800gph seems plenty. It will rid your bilge of pesky water seepage in no time. If you have a serious hull breach, a much larger pump will be required, Jake Jake Brodersen C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress" Hampton VA -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Scott via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 19:10 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joseph Scott <joseph.sco...@icloud.com> Subject: Stus-List CC 38 Bilge Pump Hey All I need to replace the automatic electric bilge pump. Currently the boat has a rule 800gph on a float switch. I feel this is woefully inadequate but am struggling with finding the space in the bilge for something larger not to mention the fact that the thru hull to go overboard will accept 3/4" hose. What do you guys use? Thanks for any help Joe Sent from my iPad ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Stus-List CC 38 Bilge Pump
Hey All I need to replace the automatic electric bilge pump. Currently the boat has a rule 800gph on a float switch. I feel this is woefully inadequate but am struggling with finding the space in the bilge for something larger not to mention the fact that the thru hull to go overboard will accept 3/4" hose. What do you guys use? Thanks for any help Joe Sent from my iPad ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
