Re: Stus-List Chainplate inspection/possibly re-bedding

2016-02-05 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List
Hi Gary,

Thanks very much.  Do you know what the bulkheads the chainplates attach to
are made from?  Is it solid fiberglass or marine plywood covered in
fiberglass?

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I had some leaking on my 1980 version (#593) but it was from cracks in the
> aluminum cover at deck level. By the way, all of our early 30's are MK1's,
> it wasn't until the mid to late '80's that they came out with the II, which
> is quite different.
>
> I pulled the chainplates out - a rather simple job as the bolts are easy
> to get to. Previous owners or mechanics had kept plenty of sealant under
> the covers, so there was minimal moisture intrusion. I cored out some balsa
> just to make sure, built a little dam and filled with epoxy. Then filed it
> out just enough to get the plate back in and reinstalled with new covers I
> built from stainless plate, with the same screw pattern, but a little
> larger than the originals to cover the glass work.
>
> I did discover that the chainplates were not centered in the boat properly
> (Monday AM boat?). The starboard plate was an inch closer to the center of
> the boat than the port one! That was part of the repair, which just
> consisted of drilling some new holes in the bulkhead and enlarging the
> thru-deck hole, and sealing with epoxy. The chainplates were in perfect
> shape.
>
> I did this repair over 10 years ago and have had no probems since. I did
> use butyl under the new covers to get a good seal.
>
> Gary Nylander
> 30-1
> Maryland
>
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> Doyle via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 8:47 PM
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> Cc: Ryan Doyle 
> Subject: Stus-List Chainplate inspection/possibly re-bedding
>
> After rain recently I noticed a little rust-colored water leaking out from
> behind my chainplate on the port bulkhead on the interior.  The chainplates
> themselves look shiny and new, but I'm afraid some water ingress has rusted
> some of the bolts through the bulkhead.
>
> I resealed where both chainplates protrude from the deck to stop any water
> from coming in, but I think it's time to really inspect (and possibly
> re-do) both chainplates.
>
> My mast is removed, and the boat is covered.  I'm thinking I'm going to
> remove some bolts and see what's going on inside the bulkheads behind the
> chainplates… see if there's any rot in there.  I assume these bulkheads on
> my 1976 30 MKI are marine ply covered in fiberglass.
>
> Has anyone does this before on a 30MK I?  Any suggestions/anything I
> should know before I embark on this project?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Ryan
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Chainplate inspection/possibly re-bedding

2016-02-05 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
I had some leaking on my 1980 version (#593) but it was from cracks in the 
aluminum cover at deck level. By the way, all of our early 30's are MK1's, it 
wasn't until the mid to late '80's that they came out with the II, which is 
quite different.

I pulled the chainplates out - a rather simple job as the bolts are easy to get 
to. Previous owners or mechanics had kept plenty of sealant under the covers, 
so there was minimal moisture intrusion. I cored out some balsa just to make 
sure, built a little dam and filled with epoxy. Then filed it out just enough 
to get the plate back in and reinstalled with new covers I built from stainless 
plate, with the same screw pattern, but a little larger than the originals to 
cover the glass work.

I did discover that the chainplates were not centered in the boat properly 
(Monday AM boat?). The starboard plate was an inch closer to the center of the 
boat than the port one! That was part of the repair, which just consisted of 
drilling some new holes in the bulkhead and enlarging the thru-deck hole, and 
sealing with epoxy. The chainplates were in perfect shape.

I did this repair over 10 years ago and have had no probems since. I did use 
butyl under the new covers to get a good seal.

Gary Nylander
30-1
Maryland

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Subject: Stus-List Chainplate inspection/possibly re-bedding

After rain recently I noticed a little rust-colored water leaking out from 
behind my chainplate on the port bulkhead on the interior.  The chainplates 
themselves look shiny and new, but I'm afraid some water ingress has rusted 
some of the bolts through the bulkhead.

I resealed where both chainplates protrude from the deck to stop any water from 
coming in, but I think it's time to really inspect (and possibly re-do) both 
chainplates.

My mast is removed, and the boat is covered.  I'm thinking I'm going to remove 
some bolts and see what's going on inside the bulkheads behind the chainplates… 
see if there's any rot in there.  I assume these bulkheads on my 1976 30 MKI 
are marine ply covered in fiberglass.  

Has anyone does this before on a 30MK I?  Any suggestions/anything I should 
know before I embark on this project?

Thanks in advance.

Ryan




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Re: Stus-List Chainplate inspection/possibly re-bedding

2016-02-03 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List
Thanks so much Joseph.  Was this an MK I or an MK II?  The balsa core was in 
your deck? 

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> On Feb 3, 2016, at 22:16, Joseph Bognar via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> My 1979 C&C30 had leaking chain Plates. It rotted out the balsa core and I 
> had a 2 ft square area around the chain plates re done . Access to the chain 
> plates is really easy . You can reach the fasteners from the lockers on each 
> side 
> 
> Sent from Joe Bognar
> 
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2016, at 8:47 PM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> After rain recently I noticed a little rust-colored water leaking out from 
>> behind my chainplate on the port bulkhead on the interior.  The chainplates 
>> themselves look shiny and new, but I'm afraid some water ingress has rusted 
>> some of the bolts through the bulkhead.
>> 
>> I resealed where both chainplates protrude from the deck to stop any water 
>> from coming in, but I think it's time to really inspect (and possibly re-do) 
>> both chainplates.
>> 
>> My mast is removed, and the boat is covered.  I'm thinking I'm going to 
>> remove some bolts and see what's going on inside the bulkheads behind the 
>> chainplates… see if there's any rot in there.  I assume these bulkheads on 
>> my 1976 30 MKI are marine ply covered in fiberglass.  
>> 
>> Has anyone does this before on a 30MK I?  Any suggestions/anything I should 
>> know before I embark on this project?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Ryan
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Chainplate inspection/possibly re-bedding

2016-02-03 Thread Joseph Bognar via CnC-List
My 1979 C&C30 had leaking chain Plates. It rotted out the balsa core and I had 
a 2 ft square area around the chain plates re done . Access to the chain plates 
is really easy . You can reach the fasteners from the lockers on each side 

Sent from Joe Bognar


> On Feb 3, 2016, at 8:47 PM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> After rain recently I noticed a little rust-colored water leaking out from 
> behind my chainplate on the port bulkhead on the interior.  The chainplates 
> themselves look shiny and new, but I'm afraid some water ingress has rusted 
> some of the bolts through the bulkhead.
> 
> I resealed where both chainplates protrude from the deck to stop any water 
> from coming in, but I think it's time to really inspect (and possibly re-do) 
> both chainplates.
> 
> My mast is removed, and the boat is covered.  I'm thinking I'm going to 
> remove some bolts and see what's going on inside the bulkheads behind the 
> chainplates… see if there's any rot in there.  I assume these bulkheads on my 
> 1976 30 MKI are marine ply covered in fiberglass.  
> 
> Has anyone does this before on a 30MK I?  Any suggestions/anything I should 
> know before I embark on this project?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Ryan
> 
> 
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Stus-List Chainplate inspection/possibly re-bedding

2016-02-03 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List
After rain recently I noticed a little rust-colored water leaking out from 
behind my chainplate on the port bulkhead on the interior.  The chainplates 
themselves look shiny and new, but I'm afraid some water ingress has rusted 
some of the bolts through the bulkhead.

I resealed where both chainplates protrude from the deck to stop any water from 
coming in, but I think it's time to really inspect (and possibly re-do) both 
chainplates.

My mast is removed, and the boat is covered.  I'm thinking I'm going to remove 
some bolts and see what's going on inside the bulkheads behind the chainplates… 
see if there's any rot in there.  I assume these bulkheads on my 1976 30 MKI 
are marine ply covered in fiberglass.  

Has anyone does this before on a 30MK I?  Any suggestions/anything I should 
know before I embark on this project?

Thanks in advance.

Ryan




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