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>   1. Re:  Lake Michigan Rendezvous (Richard N. Bush)
>   2.  Boom fittings for reefing attachments (Josh Muckley)
>   3. Re:  Boom fittings for reefing attachments (Paul Baker)
>   4. Re:  Boom fittings for reefing attachments (Josh Muckley)
>   5. Re:  Ground loop? (Della Barba, Joe)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 23:07:21 -0400
> From: "Richard N. Bush" <bushma...@aol.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Lake Michigan Rendezvous
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> Jon, if the rendezvous looks like its going to happen, please keep us up to 
> speed, like Ron over in Missouri,  I'm too  for to come by boat , but would 
> be willing to drive to the event....we went to the Mystic Seaport rendezvous 
> in 2014 and enjoyed it very much (but it sure was a long drive)!  Thanks  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 1985 C&C 37 CB, Ohio River, Mile 596
> 
> Richard N. Bush 
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
> 502-584-7255
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Tasker via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Jon Tasker <barband...@chartermi.net>
> Sent: Thu, Apr 7, 2016 9:00 pm
> Subject: Stus-List Lake Michigan Randevous
> 
> As member of Muskegon Yacht Club, I would be happy to make any and all 
> arrangements for a randevous at MYC if there is sufficient interest. Just 
> step up and let me know what the level of interest is!
> Jon Tasker
> Ghost Rider 
> C&C 37 1985
> MYC
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 23:17:44 -0400
> From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
> To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments
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> Ok guys (& gals),
> 
> I just had my boom repainted and as a result this has been a great time to
> rebuild and replace all the associated pieces and parts.  The boom wasn't
> made with any place to attach reefing lines.  Previously I had simply tied
> them with a bowline on a bite around the boom.  It works but I'm a little
> apprehensive of the aesthetics and of the possible chaffing/wear on the new
> paint.  So I was toying with options.  I thought about installing pad eyes
> on the top or the bottom of the boom with machine screws.  I'm not sure how
> well the fasteners would handle the stress and it means drilling holes.  It
> also means removing the sail pack would be an even bigger pain in the
> butt.  I also considered having something in the boom track kinda like a
> slug stop which would allow me to install a pad eye and slide it up and
> down the track to its optimal position before fully tighten the screws to
> lock it in place.  See the attached picture of a slug stop.  I was kinda
> hoping someone made this type of thing (a pad eye anchored in a bolt rope
> track) but all I could find was the harken bat-car system and it is
> designed to mount a track and then have a car ride on the track.  This
> seems costly and adds what seems like considerable clew height.  The clew
> height may be inconsequential since the tack height is normally elevated
> from the boom anyway.
> 
> Anybody have any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Josh Muckley
> S l/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 22:36:44 -0700
> From: Paul Baker <pjbake...@hotmail.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments
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> You could perhaps find an eye nut that would fit onto a stopper that you 
> pictured instead of the knurled nut.
> Cheers,
> Paul.
> 
> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 23:17:44 -0400
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> CC: muckl...@gmail.com
> 
> Ok guys (& gals), 
> I just had my boom repainted and as a result this has been a great time to 
> rebuild and replace all the associated pieces and parts.  The boom wasn't 
> made with any place to attach reefing lines.  Previously I had simply tied 
> them with a bowline on a bite around the boom.  It works but I'm a little 
> apprehensive of the aesthetics and of the possible chaffing/wear on the new 
> paint.  So I was toying with options.  I thought about installing pad eyes on 
> the top or the bottom of the boom with machine screws.  I'm not sure how well 
> the fasteners would handle the stress and it means drilling holes.  It also 
> means removing the sail pack would be an even bigger pain in the butt.  I 
> also considered having something in the boom track kinda like a slug stop 
> which would allow me to install a pad eye and slide it up and down the track 
> to its optimal position before fully tighten the screws to lock it in place.  
> See the attached picture of a slug stop.  I was kinda hoping someone made 
> this type of 
 thing (a pad eye anchored in a bolt rope track) but all I could find was the 
harken bat-car system and it is designed to mount a track and then have a car 
ride on the track.  This seems costly and adds what seems like considerable 
clew height.  The clew height may be inconsequential since the tack height is 
normally elevated from the boom anyway.
> Anybody have any ideas?
> Thanks, 
> 
> Josh Muckley
> 
> S l/V Sea Hawk
> 
> 1989 C&C 37+
> 
> Solomons, MD
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 04:46:07 -0400
> From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
> To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments
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> 
> Yeah Paul, I had considered doing that.  I also considered having a single
> piece of rod drilled and tapped at the correct distance for my selected pad
> eye fitting.
> 
> I'm just kinda trying to figure out what others do.  Everybody else just
> tie it to the boom?
> 
> Thanks for the idea, lets keep 'em coming.
> 
> Josh
> On Apr 8, 2016 1:37 AM, "Paul Baker via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> You could perhaps find an eye nut that would fit onto a stopper that you
>> pictured instead of the knurled nut.
>> Cheers,
>> Paul.
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 23:17:44 -0400
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments
>> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> CC: muckl...@gmail.com
>> 
>> Ok guys (& gals),
>> 
>> I just had my boom repainted and as a result this has been a great time to
>> rebuild and replace all the associated pieces and parts.  The boom wasn't
>> made with any place to attach reefing lines.  Previously I had simply tied
>> them with a bowline on a bite around the boom.  It works but I'm a little
>> apprehensive of the aesthetics and of the possible chaffing/wear on the new
>> paint.  So I was toying with options.  I thought about installing pad eyes
>> on the top or the bottom of the boom with machine screws.  I'm not sure how
>> well the fasteners would handle the stress and it means drilling holes.  It
>> also means removing the sail pack would be an even bigger pain in the
>> butt.  I also considered having something in the boom track kinda like a
>> slug stop which would allow me to install a pad eye and slide it up and
>> down the track to its optimal position before fully tighten the screws to
>> lock it in place.  See the attached picture of a slug stop.  I was kinda
>> hoping someone made this type of thing (a pad eye anchored in a bolt rope
>> track) but all I could find was the harken bat-car system and it is
>> designed to mount a track and then have a car ride on the track.  This
>> seems costly and adds what seems like considerable clew height.  The clew
>> height may be inconsequential since the tack height is normally elevated
>> from the boom anyway.
>> 
>> Anybody have any ideas?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Josh Muckley
>> S l/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>> 
>> _______________________________________________ This list is supported by
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 11:35:12 +0000
> From: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>
> To: "'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Ground loop?
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> What you have is what I would expect to see as a ground system for a SSB, AM 
> transmitter (really old), or LORAN. Also note I don?t really like using the 
> engine as a central grounding point. BlueSea sells a number of terminals you 
> can use as the central grounding point and then run one heavy ground wire to 
> the engine.
> The mast should be connected to the keel bolts, but IMHO you can get rid of 
> the metal plate (a dynaplate maybe?) and the extra wiring. You could have a 
> ground loop issue if you started grounding things to the plate or the keel 
> bolts. You would end up with voltage differences between the engine, the 
> plate, and the keel that could prove quite destructive. If you do nothing 
> else, make SURE nothing is connected that way.
> Joe
> Coquina C&C 35 MK I
> 
> BTW ? I had a ground loop issue at work. My phone was somehow wired to the 
> exchange in another building ? mile away. There was enough difference in 
> ground potential at the two sites that significant voltage was present on the 
> phone wire and it was introducing horrible noise.
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Pete 
> Shelquist via CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 10:27 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Pete Shelquist
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Ground loop?
> 
> Sounds like the PO may have been misinformed, or overly cautious, and figured 
> more is better.
> 
> Someday will someone explain to me the concept/theory of a ground loop?  I?m 
> looking at you Fred.
> 
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ken Heaton 
> via CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 5:59 PM
> To: cnc-list
> Cc: Ken Heaton
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Ground loop?
> 
> Did the boat ever have a shortwave radio?
> 
> Was a previous owner afraid of a lightning strike?
> 
> Just guessing.
> 
> Ken H.
> 
> On 7 April 2016 at 18:20, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> Hey everyone,
> I am in the home stretch of re-wiring my entire boat.  The wiring was in 
> frightening shape when I bought it back in October - much of it was corroded 
> and probably original, and there were numerous "bad fixes" that I didn't like 
> the looks of.  So, I ripped it all out and started anew with a whole bunch of 
> Ancor marine wire, a BlueSea panel, BlueSea fuse blocks, and went about 
> re-wiring.
> 
> All negative wires connect back to the nut at the back of my A4 motor, which 
> is also connected to my battery negatives.  All good.
> 
> However, there is one large gauge (maybe 10 gauge?) old wire going from the 
> nut on the back of my A4 to a nut attached to a metal plate that is attached 
> to the outside of the hull.  This metal plate is located slightly forward and 
> to starboard of the front of the A4.  Another wire coming from the nut over 
> this metal plate is also connected to a keel bolt.
> I don't see this plate or wire on the original C&C wiring diagram for the 
> boat.  And from what I know, having more than one negative point outside the 
> hull will create a ground loop.
> Any thoughts on why someone did this?
> Thanks,
> Ryan
> Nobody's Bargain
> 1976 C&C 30 mki
> New York
> 
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