Awesome Dennis.  Thank you.  I went down the same road as Steve and saw
that it was $153. $48 or $53 at Downwind Marine is much better.

Anyone know how to tell if you have an 202M-03, 202M-07, or 202M-15?



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>    4.  Fw: Chain plate bulkheads (Franklin Schenk)
>    5. Re:  Where is my Oberdorfer pump leaking from? (Stevan Plavsa)
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> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 13:57:03 -0400
> From: Ryan Doyle <ryanpdo...@gmail.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Where is my Oberdorfer pump leaking from?
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> Sounds like it's time to drain the system, remove it, and rebuilt it with
> the $50 Moyer kit.  Thanks guys.  Helpful as usual.
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> From: Eugene Fodor <efo...@gmail.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List C&C 29 Mk II Bulkhead Repair
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> The base of the bulkhead on the C&C 29 Mk II I'm in escrow on has some soft
> wood and the tabbing has separated. This is the bulkhead just aft of the
> head that the table is mounted on. Does anyone have experience with
> repairing this and any recommendations. My plan is to sand/grind out the
> existing wood and build it up with epoxy and then redo the tabbing. Any
> recommendations or links on info for similiar repairs would be much
> appreciated.
>
> Thank in advance,
>
> Gene
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> From: Franklin Schenk <fdsch...@flash.net>
> To: Rick Brass via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Stus-List Chain plate bulkheads
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>  I am helping a friend repair the chain plate bulkheads on a 29 MKII.?
> Water has leaked for many years down the chain plates into the bulkheads.?
> By taping on the bulkheads with a hammer I can tell that the port side has
> severe decay almost down to the two lower bolts on the chain plate.? I
> talked to a professional boat repair guy and he suggested that I pour epoxy
> into the top of the bulkhead.? I doubt that the epoxy will seep down very
> far.? My thoughts were to drill a few holes into the side of the bulkhead
> and pump in the epoxy.? I am open to any suggestions.
> Frank
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> From: Franklin Schenk <fdsch...@flash.net>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
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>      On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 1:27 PM, Franklin Schenk <
> fdsch...@flash.net> wrote:
>
>
>   I am helping a friend repair the chain plate bulkheads on a 29 MKII.?
> Water has leaked for many years down the chain plates into the bulkheads.?
> By taping on the bulkheads with a hammer I can tell that the port side has
> severe decay almost down to the two lower bolts on the chain plate.? I
> talked to a professional boat repair guy and he suggested that I pour epoxy
> into the top of the bulkhead.? I doubt that the epoxy will seep down very
> far.? My thoughts were to drill a few holes into the side of the bulkhead
> and pump in the epoxy.? I am open to any suggestions.
> Frank
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> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 14:48:34 -0400
> From: Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Where is my Oberdorfer pump leaking from?
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> I have to do the same job, on the same leak, on the same pump. I don't see
> a rebuld kit for $50 on moyer marine. The Oberdorfer rebuild kit is $153.
> Can someone point me in the right direction?
> I'm considering outright replacement with the MMI 502 and keeping the
> Oberdorfer as an emergency spare.
>
> Steve
> Suhana, C&C 32
> Toronto
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> > Sounds like it's time to drain the system, remove it, and rebuilt it with
> > the $50 Moyer kit.  Thanks guys.  Helpful as usual.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 19:17:42 +0000
> From: Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 29 Mk II Bulkhead Repair
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> We repaired a similar bulkhead issue on Calypso by cutting out the damaged
> section. The section was approx. 12" x 18".  We replaced the bulkhead
> section with similar grade plywood bonded in place with epoxy then adding
> glass cloth and epoxy over the seams.  We replaced the failed tabbing with
> new.
>
>
>
> If you have a very small area immediately next to the tabbing a less
> invasive repair might be possible following your Plan A.  If you have a
> oscillating tool (Feinmaster etc.) working in confined spaces is easier.
> The plunge cut blades allow for some "micro" surgery.
>
>
>
> Have you visited the West System's web site?  They have some excellent
> boat repair guides that highlight use of their epoxy products.  For a pour
> in place repair adding some chopped glass fibers or similar strength
> building filler will reduce the epoxy fill's chances of cracking if it
> flexes.
>
>
>
> Martin
>
> Calypso
>
> 1971 C&C 43
>
> Seattle
>
> ________________________________
> From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Eugene Fodor
> via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 10:57 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Eugene Fodor
> Subject: Stus-List C&C 29 Mk II Bulkhead Repair
>
> The base of the bulkhead on the C&C 29 Mk II I'm in escrow on has some
> soft wood and the tabbing has separated. This is the bulkhead just aft of
> the head that the table is mounted on. Does anyone have experience with
> repairing this and any recommendations. My plan is to sand/grind out the
> existing wood and build it up with epoxy and then redo the tabbing. Any
> recommendations or links on info for similiar repairs would be much
> appreciated.
>
> Thank in advance,
>
> Gene
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> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 19:23:16 +0000
> From: Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Chain plate bulkheads
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> Any time the words "chain plate bulkhead" and "severe decay" are used
> together I recommend replacing the bulkhead over a pour in place attempt to
> make it strong again.
>
>
>
> If it is not possible to remove and replace the wood around the chain
> plate I have seen a suitably sized stainless steel plate the spreads the
> chain plate loads out into solid wood used.
>
>
>
> Martin
>
> Calypso
>
> 1971 C&C 43
>
> Seattle
>
> ________________________________
> From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Franklin
> Schenk via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 11:27 AM
> To: Rick Brass via CnC-List
> Cc: Franklin Schenk
> Subject: Stus-List Chain plate bulkheads
>
> I am helping a friend repair the chain plate bulkheads on a 29 MKII.
> Water has leaked for many years down the chain plates into the bulkheads.
> By taping on the bulkheads with a hammer I can tell that the port side has
> severe decay almost down to the two lower bolts on the chain plate.  I
> talked to a professional boat repair guy and he suggested that I pour epoxy
> into the top of the bulkhead.  I doubt that the epoxy will seep down very
> far.  My thoughts were to drill a few holes into the side of the bulkhead
> and pump in the epoxy.  I am open to any suggestions.
>
> Frank
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> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 14:39:07 -0500
> From: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com>
> To: CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Where is my Oberdorfer pump leaking from?
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> $48 here if it's the one you need:
>
>
> http://www.downwindmarine.com/Oberdorfer-Model-202M-Rubber-Impeller-Pumps-Universal-Engines-p-91002307.html
>
> Dennis C.
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> > I have to do the same job, on the same leak, on the same pump. I don't
> see
> > a rebuld kit for $50 on moyer marine. The Oberdorfer rebuild kit is $153.
> > Can someone point me in the right direction?
> > I'm considering outright replacement with the MMI 502 and keeping the
> > Oberdorfer as an emergency spare.
> >
> > Steve
> > Suhana, C&C 32
> > Toronto
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List <
> > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Sounds like it's time to drain the system, remove it, and rebuilt it
> with
> >> the $50 Moyer kit.  Thanks guys.  Helpful as usual.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you
> >> like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All
> >> Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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> >>
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> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 20:22:36 +0000
> From: Kevin Driscoll <kevindrisc...@gmail.com>
> To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Stus-List Pacific Cup: Stowing Type 1 PFDS
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> I am on a crew for Pacific Cup this year (a J42, not C&C) and wondered
> about buying and stowing (6) Type 1 Inherently buoyant PFD's.
>
> Nearly everyone on the crew is using a Spinlock Hammar or Pro Sensor, which
> are ISO certified, and ISAF approved and widely regarded as *superior to
> nearly everything else, but do not meet USCG requirements. So, the
> Spinlocks cover the SER (safety equipment requirements) for racing, but
> would not cover us if boarded the USCG.
>
> I am sure other offshore racers have dealt with this same dilemma, but
> wondered how so. Any recommendations on the most cost and spatially
> efficient Type1's to buy and stow?
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
> C&C 30-2, Osprey
> Portland, OR
>
> *please start another thread if you own an inflatable other than Spinlock
> and wish to protest it's superiority ;) thx.
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> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 20:27:52 +0000
> From: Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Pacific Cup: Stowing Type 1 PFDS
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> I used one as a pillow on several Transpacs.
>
>
>
> Martin
>
> Calypso
>
> 1971 C&C 43
>
> Seattle
>
> ________________________________
> From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Kevin
> Driscoll via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 1:22 PM
> To: C&C List
> Cc: Kevin Driscoll
> Subject: Stus-List Pacific Cup: Stowing Type 1 PFDS
>
> I am on a crew for Pacific Cup this year (a J42, not C&C) and wondered
> about buying and stowing (6) Type 1 Inherently buoyant PFD's.
>
> Nearly everyone on the crew is using a Spinlock Hammar or Pro Sensor,
> which are ISO certified, and ISAF approved and widely regarded as *superior
> to nearly everything else, but do not meet USCG requirements. So, the
> Spinlocks cover the SER (safety equipment requirements) for racing, but
> would not cover us if boarded the USCG.
>
> I am sure other offshore racers have dealt with this same dilemma, but
> wondered how so. Any recommendations on the most cost and spatially
> efficient Type1's to buy and stow?
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
> C&C 30-2, Osprey
> Portland, OR
>
> *please start another thread if you own an inflatable other than Spinlock
> and wish to protest it's superiority ;) thx.
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