Re: Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

My nine-foot fiberglass dinghy has traveled on Peregrine's foredeck to and from 
Maine the last few years. It fits between the baby stay and the windlass just 
aft of the anchor locker. Otherwise we just tow it between islands. 
Fortunately, it does tow beautifully.

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
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> On Aug 18, 2017, at 05:24, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> We kept an 8' zodiac on our foredeck on the 32, no trouble. We even hoisted 
> it up there while under way (we always used the spare jib halyard). Towing 
> sucks :)
> 
> Steve
> Formerly: C&C 32 Suhana
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Re: Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck

[Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List]

We kept an 8' zodiac on our foredeck on the 32, no trouble. We even hoisted
it up there while under way (we always used the spare jib halyard). Towing
sucks :)

Steve
Formerly: C&C 32 Suhana



On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I think if I had to get a dinghy onboard to travel, I might get one of
> these:
>
> http://www.boatstogo.com/inflatable-boat-am365.asp
>
>
>
> They look pretty good for the price
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina
>
> C&C 35 MK I
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Ronald
> B. Frerker via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:37 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Ronald B. Frerker 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck
>
>
>
> You could probably sail with it up front, but you'd need to have a high
> clewed jib to make it more feasible.
>
> Ron
>
> Wild Cheri
>
> C&C 30-1
>
> STL
>
>
>
>
> ----------
>
> *From:* john wright via CnC-List 
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* john wright 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 15, 2017 2:00 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck
>
>
>
> Thanks. I agree, my thinking is that it will be towed while under sail.
> Its an Acorn Tender and they tow very well.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 15, 2017, at 2:33 PM, svpegasus38 via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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Re: Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I think if I had to get a dinghy onboard to travel, I might get one of these:
http://www.boatstogo.com/inflatable-boat-am365.asp

They look pretty good for the price


Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ronald B. 
Frerker via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:37 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Ronald B. Frerker 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck

You could probably sail with it up front, but you'd need to have a high clewed 
jib to make it more feasible.
Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30-1
STL



From: john wright via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: john wright mailto:johnrogerswri...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck

Thanks. I agree, my thinking is that it will be towed while under sail. Its an 
Acorn Tender and they tow very well.


On Aug 15, 2017, at 2:33 PM, svpegasus38 via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


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Re: Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

You could probably sail with it up front, but you'd need to have a high clewed 
jib to make it more feasible.RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL


  From: john wright via CnC-List 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: john wright 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 2:00 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck
   
Thanks. I agree, my thinking is that it will be towed while under sail. Its an 
Acorn Tender and they tow very well.


On Aug 15, 2017, at 2:33 PM, svpegasus38 via CnC-List  
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Re: Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Yeah we have a porta-boat also and for many years have simply set it up on
the foredeck.  We use a short spinnaker pole to davit the boat over the
side.  Generally I like it but keeping the boat setup would make things
easier.

Josh

On Aug 16, 2017 10:41 AM, "Patrick Davin via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I couldn't help but chuckle at your description - that's a perfect
> description of several times when I really regretted towing the dinghy and
> should have had it stowed (folding PortaBote, so it stows nicely inside the
> shrouds).
>
> In those kind of wave conditions I think the dinghy should be stowed. Some
> say that if you let out more painter (like 40' or more) to get the dinghy
> riding on the right wave, it will do okay. That might work, but in steep,
> close spaced waves like we get approaching some coasts (or in large tide
> rips in wind against current situations), it won't. Riding on the transom
> wake is impossible because the waves are confused, and if you have 6' waves
> at 6 seconds (very close spaced), the timing will be too variable and the
> dinghy will still plough into troughs and then race forward on crests.
>
> Our dinghy doesn't flip or swamp fortunately, but when it starts going
> sideways, the painter coming taut puts a huge jerking force onto it. We
> lost a painter that way last month (actually a sheet bend knot in the
> harness pulled out) but fortunately use a secondary painter with its own
> harness as backup.
>
> Good time to stow the dinghy is before you get into waves like that. Most
> people avoid conditions like that, and in sounds it's quite rare, so that's
> why generally a lot of people can tow probably 95-100% of the time.
>
> -Patrick
> '84 LF38
> Seattle, WA
>
>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Josh Muckley 
>> To: "C&C List" 
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 08:54:46 -0400
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck
>> So for those who tow, what is the preferred method?
>>
>> We towed an inflatable one time.  Had floating painter and made a bridle
>> on the dink.  Tied straight to the stern rail station.  No bridle at the
>> boat, not tied to the stern cleats.  The painter was roughly 20'.  In a
>> following seas with 6 foot swells the dinghy would surge down the face of
>> the wave catch up with the boat.  At one point it got up next to the boat
>> and turned slightly perpendicular to the boat.  When the slack was pulled
>> out of the painter, the force was sideways to the dinghy and was enough to
>> flip it upside down.  It was painfully difficult to turn right side up.
>> I've been hesitant to tow since.  I've seen others tow with a considerably
>> shorter painter but with my reverse transom I would rather avoid having the
>> dinghy bump or rub the back of the boat.
>>
>> Do you keep an outboard on the dinghy while towing?
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck

[Patrick Davin via CnC-List]

I couldn't help but chuckle at your description - that's a perfect
description of several times when I really regretted towing the dinghy and
should have had it stowed (folding PortaBote, so it stows nicely inside the
shrouds).

In those kind of wave conditions I think the dinghy should be stowed. Some
say that if you let out more painter (like 40' or more) to get the dinghy
riding on the right wave, it will do okay. That might work, but in steep,
close spaced waves like we get approaching some coasts (or in large tide
rips in wind against current situations), it won't. Riding on the transom
wake is impossible because the waves are confused, and if you have 6' waves
at 6 seconds (very close spaced), the timing will be too variable and the
dinghy will still plough into troughs and then race forward on crests.

Our dinghy doesn't flip or swamp fortunately, but when it starts going
sideways, the painter coming taut puts a huge jerking force onto it. We
lost a painter that way last month (actually a sheet bend knot in the
harness pulled out) but fortunately use a secondary painter with its own
harness as backup.

Good time to stow the dinghy is before you get into waves like that. Most
people avoid conditions like that, and in sounds it's quite rare, so that's
why generally a lot of people can tow probably 95-100% of the time.

-Patrick
'84 LF38
Seattle, WA


> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Josh Muckley 
> To: "C&C List" 
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 08:54:46 -0400
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck
> So for those who tow, what is the preferred method?
>
> We towed an inflatable one time.  Had floating painter and made a bridle
> on the dink.  Tied straight to the stern rail station.  No bridle at the
> boat, not tied to the stern cleats.  The painter was roughly 20'.  In a
> following seas with 6 foot swells the dinghy would surge down the face of
> the wave catch up with the boat.  At one point it got up next to the boat
> and turned slightly perpendicular to the boat.  When the slack was pulled
> out of the painter, the force was sideways to the dinghy and was enough to
> flip it upside down.  It was painfully difficult to turn right side up.
> I've been hesitant to tow since.  I've seen others tow with a considerably
> shorter painter but with my reverse transom I would rather avoid having the
> dinghy bump or rub the back of the boat.
>
> Do you keep an outboard on the dinghy while towing?
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Forgot – I always tow from the eye in the hull of the dinghy. I have never even 
thought about using the eyes connected to the tubes.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:09 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck

Josh — we use an “X” shaped towing bridle for our dinghy; two connections on 
the dink, and tied off to the stern cleats.  It’s about twelve feet long or so, 
with stainless carabiners for the dingy end and large eyes at the boat end.  
There seems to be enough friction on the dinghy to keep the bridle taut under 
most conditions.

And we NEVER tow with an outboard on the dink; you’re liable to considerably 
shorten the life of the transom doing that, along with the chance of drowning 
your outboard…

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Aug 16, 2017, at 7:54 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

So for those who tow, what is the preferred method?

We towed an inflatable one time.  Had floating painter and made a bridle on the 
dink.  Tied straight to the stern rail station.  No bridle at the boat, not 
tied to the stern cleats.  The painter was roughly 20'.  In a following seas 
with 6 foot swells the dinghy would surge down the face of the wave catch up 
with the boat.  At one point it got up next to the boat and turned slightly 
perpendicular to the boat.  When the slack was pulled out of the painter, the 
force was sideways to the dinghy and was enough to flip it upside down.  It was 
painfully difficult to turn right side up.  I've been hesitant to tow since.  
I've seen others tow with a considerably shorter painter but with my reverse 
transom I would rather avoid having the dinghy bump or rub the back of the boat.

Do you keep an outboard on the dinghy while towing?

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

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Re: Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Josh — we use an “X” shaped towing bridle for our dinghy; two connections on 
the dink, and tied off to the stern cleats.  It’s about twelve feet long or so, 
with stainless carabiners for the dingy end and large eyes at the boat end.  
There seems to be enough friction on the dinghy to keep the bridle taut under 
most conditions.

And we NEVER tow with an outboard on the dink; you’re liable to considerably 
shorten the life of the transom doing that, along with the chance of drowning 
your outboard…

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Aug 16, 2017, at 7:54 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> So for those who tow, what is the preferred method?  
> 
> We towed an inflatable one time.  Had floating painter and made a bridle on 
> the dink.  Tied straight to the stern rail station.  No bridle at the boat, 
> not tied to the stern cleats.  The painter was roughly 20'.  In a following 
> seas with 6 foot swells the dinghy would surge down the face of the wave 
> catch up with the boat.  At one point it got up next to the boat and turned 
> slightly perpendicular to the boat.  When the slack was pulled out of the 
> painter, the force was sideways to the dinghy and was enough to flip it 
> upside down.  It was painfully difficult to turn right side up.  I've been 
> hesitant to tow since.  I've seen others tow with a considerably shorter 
> painter but with my reverse transom I would rather avoid having the dinghy 
> bump or rub the back of the boat. 
> 
> Do you keep an outboard on the dinghy while towing?
> 
> Josh Muckley 
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD 

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Re: Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

So for those who tow, what is the preferred method?

We towed an inflatable one time.  Had floating painter and made a bridle on
the dink.  Tied straight to the stern rail station.  No bridle at the boat,
not tied to the stern cleats.  The painter was roughly 20'.  In a following
seas with 6 foot swells the dinghy would surge down the face of the wave
catch up with the boat.  At one point it got up next to the boat and turned
slightly perpendicular to the boat.  When the slack was pulled out of the
painter, the force was sideways to the dinghy and was enough to flip it
upside down.  It was painfully difficult to turn right side up.  I've been
hesitant to tow since.  I've seen others tow with a considerably shorter
painter but with my reverse transom I would rather avoid having the dinghy
bump or rub the back of the boat.

Do you keep an outboard on the dinghy while towing?

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Tue, Aug 15, 2017, 1:50 PM john wright via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Any owners of 38 Landfall or any other C&C, keep/store their tender on the
> foredeck. I am thinking of having Chocks made that at minimum, I can keep a
> rowing wood tender thats 10 ft long on the foredeck. Not sure about while
> under sail. Thoughts?
>
> Thanks
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Re: Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck

[Persuasion37 via CnC-List]

John

For short trips I keep the dinghy (10' RIB) on the dinghy tow.  On longer trips 
or over nighters I joist it to the fore deck.  It's ok for sailing but a bit of 
a pain when anchoring.

Mike
PERSUASION
C&C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Aug 15, 2017, at 1:49 PM, john wright via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Any owners of 38 Landfall or any other C&C, keep/store their tender on the 
> foredeck. I am thinking of having Chocks made that at minimum, I can keep a 
> rowing wood tender thats 10 ft long on the foredeck. Not sure about while 
> under sail. Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks
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[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I keep our 9'4" Achilles on the foredeck and sail with it when we have the
boat in Pensacola.  No real issues.  Just rig a line from toe rail to toe
rail over the dinghy to keep the jibsheets from fouling.

The Admiral and I are quite adept at using a halyard to launch and retrieve
it.  Just use a piece of Dri-Deck or something to rest it on.  Don't use a
towel.  It can retain water and cause blisters on the deck.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Aug 15, 2017 12:49 PM, "john wright via CnC-List" 
wrote:

Any owners of 38 Landfall or any other C&C, keep/store their tender on the
foredeck. I am thinking of having Chocks made that at minimum, I can keep a
rowing wood tender thats 10 ft long on the foredeck. Not sure about while
under sail. Thoughts?

Thanks
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[john wright via CnC-List]

Chuck, can you please show a picture. Thanks
> On Aug 15, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've bought the same inflatable RIB as Fred for our Landfall 35 but opted for 
> a set of Forespar Davits to make dinghy storage a breeze.  Bought at the 
> annual Defender sale, they fit the boat well and retain access to the stern 
> ladder without whacking your head on the cross brace when the dinghy is in 
> the water.  And the width of the Davit mounts match perfectly with the lift 
> points on the dinghy.
> Chuck Gilchrest
> S/V Half Magic
> 1983 35 Landfall
> Padanaram, MA
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 15, 2017, at 2:15 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> 
>> John — over the last winter I purchased new Mercury 280 Hypalon RIB for my 
>> boat (to replace the 20-year-old Seaworthy 9.2 wooden-floor dinghy, which 
>> was starting to slow-leak…), and I put it up on the foredeck to store out of 
>> the water between sailing weekends.  There’s no way I could sail with it up 
>> there; it would foul both the genny and the sheets.  I could always deflate 
>> it, but that would just add time when we got out into the islands.  So we 
>> tow it behind when leaving the marina, and hoist it back on deck when we’re 
>> ready to leave the boat after a trip out.
>> 
>> Given the shape of the foredeck (narrow and pointy), the cabin top and the 
>> length of your rowing dinghy, I’m not sure I can imagine how you’d make it 
>> work.
>> 
>> — Fred
>> 
>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
>> 
>>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 12:49 PM, john wright via CnC-List 
>>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Any owners of 38 Landfall or any other C&C, keep/store their tender on the 
>>> foredeck. I am thinking of having Chocks made that at minimum, I can keep a 
>>> rowing wood tender thats 10 ft long on the foredeck. Not sure about while 
>>> under sail. Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
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[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

I've bought the same inflatable RIB as Fred for our Landfall 35 but opted for a 
set of Forespar Davits to make dinghy storage a breeze.  Bought at the annual 
Defender sale, they fit the boat well and retain access to the stern ladder 
without whacking your head on the cross brace when the dinghy is in the water.  
And the width of the Davit mounts match perfectly with the lift points on the 
dinghy.
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
1983 35 Landfall
Padanaram, MA



> On Aug 15, 2017, at 2:15 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> John — over the last winter I purchased new Mercury 280 Hypalon RIB for my 
> boat (to replace the 20-year-old Seaworthy 9.2 wooden-floor dinghy, which was 
> starting to slow-leak…), and I put it up on the foredeck to store out of the 
> water between sailing weekends.  There’s no way I could sail with it up 
> there; it would foul both the genny and the sheets.  I could always deflate 
> it, but that would just add time when we got out into the islands.  So we tow 
> it behind when leaving the marina, and hoist it back on deck when we’re ready 
> to leave the boat after a trip out.
> 
> Given the shape of the foredeck (narrow and pointy), the cabin top and the 
> length of your rowing dinghy, I’m not sure I can imagine how you’d make it 
> work.
> 
> — Fred
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 12:49 PM, john wright via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Any owners of 38 Landfall or any other C&C, keep/store their tender on the 
>> foredeck. I am thinking of having Chocks made that at minimum, I can keep a 
>> rowing wood tender thats 10 ft long on the foredeck. Not sure about while 
>> under sail. Thoughts?
>> 
>> Thanks
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[john wright via CnC-List]

Thanks. I agree, my thinking is that it will be towed while under sail. Its an 
Acorn Tender and they tow very well.


> On Aug 15, 2017, at 2:33 PM, svpegasus38 via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I have stowed my inflatable on the fordeck of my LF38 during the winter also. 
> It is an Achilles 280 RIB. I have sailed with it there, but the hub sheets 
> can get tangled and it is a royal PITA to go forward. 
> I sailed to Hawaii with a hard she'll dinghy lashed to the fore deck of a 35 
> Ericson. Once again ROYAL PITA. No other choice there. 
> FWIW
> 
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> Doug Mountjoy 
> POYC 
> Pegasus (for sale) 
> Lf38 
> Rebecca Leah LF39 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
> Date: 8/15/17 11:15 (GMT-08:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Frederick G Street 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck
> 
> John — over the last winter I purchased new Mercury 280 Hypalon RIB for my 
> boat (to replace the 20-year-old Seaworthy 9.2 wooden-floor dinghy, which was 
> starting to slow-leak…), and I put it up on the foredeck to store out of the 
> water between sailing weekends.  There’s no way I could sail with it up 
> there; it would foul both the genny and the sheets.  I could always deflate 
> it, but that would just add time when we got out into the islands.  So we tow 
> it behind when leaving the marina, and hoist it back on deck when we’re ready 
> to leave the boat after a trip out.
> 
> Given the shape of the foredeck (narrow and pointy), the cabin top and the 
> length of your rowing dinghy, I’m not sure I can imagine how you’d make it 
> work.
> 
> — Fred
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 12:49 PM, john wright via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Any owners of 38 Landfall or any other C&C, keep/store their tender on the 
>> foredeck. I am thinking of having Chocks made that at minimum, I can keep a 
>> rowing wood tender thats 10 ft long on the foredeck. Not sure about while 
>> under sail. Thoughts?
>> 
>> Thanks
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Re: Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck

[svpegasus38 via CnC-List]

I have stowed my inflatable on the fordeck of my LF38 during the winter also. 
It is an Achilles 280 RIB. I have sailed with it there, but the hub sheets can 
get tangled and it is a royal PITA to go forward. I sailed to Hawaii with a 
hard she'll dinghy lashed to the fore deck of a 35 Ericson. Once again ROYAL 
PITA. No other choice there. FWIW
Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE DeviceDoug Mountjoy POYC Pegasus (for sale) Lf38 
Rebecca Leah LF39 
 Original message From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 Date: 8/15/17  11:15  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck 
John — over the last winter I purchased new Mercury 280 Hypalon RIB for my boat 
(to replace the 20-year-old Seaworthy 9.2 wooden-floor dinghy, which was 
starting to slow-leak…), and I put it up on the foredeck to store out of the 
water between sailing weekends.  There’s no way I could sail with it up there; 
it would foul both the genny and the sheets.  I could always deflate it, but 
that would just add time when we got out into the islands.  So we tow it behind 
when leaving the marina, and hoist it back on deck when we’re ready to leave 
the boat after a trip out.
Given the shape of the foredeck (narrow and pointy), the cabin top and the 
length of your rowing dinghy, I’m not sure I can imagine how you’d make it work.
— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI


On Aug 15, 2017, at 12:49 PM, john wright via CnC-List  
wrote:
Any owners of 38 Landfall or any other C&C, keep/store their tender on the 
foredeck. I am thinking of having Chocks made that at minimum, I can keep a 
rowing wood tender thats 10 ft long on the foredeck. Not sure about while under 
sail. Thoughts?

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Re: Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

John — over the last winter I purchased new Mercury 280 Hypalon RIB for my boat 
(to replace the 20-year-old Seaworthy 9.2 wooden-floor dinghy, which was 
starting to slow-leak…), and I put it up on the foredeck to store out of the 
water between sailing weekends.  There’s no way I could sail with it up there; 
it would foul both the genny and the sheets.  I could always deflate it, but 
that would just add time when we got out into the islands.  So we tow it behind 
when leaving the marina, and hoist it back on deck when we’re ready to leave 
the boat after a trip out.

Given the shape of the foredeck (narrow and pointy), the cabin top and the 
length of your rowing dinghy, I’m not sure I can imagine how you’d make it work.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Aug 15, 2017, at 12:49 PM, john wright via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Any owners of 38 Landfall or any other C&C, keep/store their tender on the 
> foredeck. I am thinking of having Chocks made that at minimum, I can keep a 
> rowing wood tender thats 10 ft long on the foredeck. Not sure about while 
> under sail. Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks
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Stus-List Dinghy on fordeck

[john wright via CnC-List]

Any owners of 38 Landfall or any other C&C, keep/store their tender on the 
foredeck. I am thinking of having Chocks made that at minimum, I can keep a 
rowing wood tender thats 10 ft long on the foredeck. Not sure about while under 
sail. Thoughts?

Thanks
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