Stus-List Dive boat fire

2019-09-05 Thread Len Mitchell via CnC-List
Paul, you can usually wire the propane detector to shut off the propane 
solenoid if it senses fuel. I am shopping for an automatic fire extinguisher 
for the engine compartment that uses a non corrosive extinguishing agent. An 
automatic engine shut down device is recommended. Sea-fire makes an automatic 
marine extinguisher for $218 USD at West Marine that will service 25 cubic feet 
and the 50 cubic foot is $255. The Sea-fire has a NC switch and I am thinking 
of wiring the M35 electric lift pump through the NC switch. Another good reason 
to attend the mid Atlantic rendezvous next month, they are an absolutely 
ridiculous price in Canada. 
Len Mitchell
Crazy Legs
1989 37+
Midland On

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Re: Stus-List Dive Boat Fire

2019-09-04 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I was CO poisoned by an airplane with a crack in the heater manifold.
Not fun and I bought  CO meter soon after.
Joe
Coquina

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Dive Boat Fire

Very dangerous.  CO detectors are a must.

-Original Message- 
From: James Bibb via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 1:05 PM
To: Chuck S via CnC-List
Cc: James Bibb
Subject: Re: Stus-List Dive Boat Fire

Sorry my C&C folks….emailed back to my sailing buddy about nearly running 
aground on a short sail up here Juenau and crossed email responses somehow. 
At least it was sailing related!

…back to subject…the list looks like it would cover.  CO is my worst fear 
behind galley fire.  I’ve set off my CO simply by sleeping on-board and not 
having enough fresh air ventilation which could also be dangerous.

James Bibb
Juneau, AK

SV Darwin’s Folly
C&C 34-36 R  Rocket ship.


> On Sep 4, 2019, at 8:50 AM, James Bibb via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
>
> Extreme high tide….I knew better in that location….depth sounder showed 11 
> feet and I know there are rocks over there.
>
>
>
>
>> On Sep 4, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> AFAIK the propane and gasoline detectors are the same thing.
>> Joe
>> Coquina
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul 
>> via CnC-List
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 12:27 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: paul.h...@rogers.com
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Dive Boat Fire
>>
>> I currently have no detectors on my boat and although it is on my list, 
>> this
>> is a good reminder to speed up the install.  The way I see it, the 
>> detectors
>> I should have are
>>
>> - smoke alarm
>> - propane alarm (sensor down low)
>> - CO detector
>> - gas fumes alarm (sensor down low)
>>
>> I have 2  LPG tanks vented in cockpit, gas atomic 4.
>>
>> Any other suggestions from the list would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Paul Hood
>> 416.799.5549 c
>>
>> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 13:13:13 +
>> From: "Della Barba, Joe" 
>> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
>> Subject: Stus-List Dive boat fire and egress
>> Message-ID: 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> I think I will swap out the CO detector for CO+Smoke.
>> I always think any boat that has a gasoline engine and has people 
>> sleeping
>> below underway needs a CO detector.
>> Joe
>> Coquina
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Dive Boat Fire

2019-09-04 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List

Very dangerous.  CO detectors are a must.

-Original Message- 
From: James Bibb via CnC-List

Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 1:05 PM
To: Chuck S via CnC-List
Cc: James Bibb
Subject: Re: Stus-List Dive Boat Fire

Sorry my C&C folks….emailed back to my sailing buddy about nearly running 
aground on a short sail up here Juenau and crossed email responses somehow. 
At least it was sailing related!


…back to subject…the list looks like it would cover.  CO is my worst fear 
behind galley fire.  I’ve set off my CO simply by sleeping on-board and not 
having enough fresh air ventilation which could also be dangerous.


James Bibb
Juneau, AK

SV Darwin’s Folly
C&C 34-36 R  Rocket ship.


On Sep 4, 2019, at 8:50 AM, James Bibb via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Extreme high tide….I knew better in that location….depth sounder showed 11 
feet and I know there are rocks over there.





On Sep 4, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 wrote:


AFAIK the propane and gasoline detectors are the same thing.
Joe
Coquina


-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul 
via CnC-List

Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 12:27 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: paul.h...@rogers.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Dive Boat Fire

I currently have no detectors on my boat and although it is on my list, 
this
is a good reminder to speed up the install.  The way I see it, the 
detectors

I should have are

- smoke alarm
- propane alarm (sensor down low)
- CO detector
- gas fumes alarm (sensor down low)

I have 2  LPG tanks vented in cockpit, gas atomic 4.

Any other suggestions from the list would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Paul Hood
416.799.5549 c

Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 13:13:13 +
From: "Della Barba, Joe" 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Stus-List Dive boat fire and egress
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I think I will swap out the CO detector for CO+Smoke.
I always think any boat that has a gasoline engine and has people 
sleeping

below underway needs a CO detector.
Joe
Coquina



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Re: Stus-List Dive Boat Fire

2019-09-04 Thread James Bibb via CnC-List
Sorry my C&C folks….emailed back to my sailing buddy about nearly running 
aground on a short sail up here Juenau and crossed email responses somehow.  At 
least it was sailing related!

…back to subject…the list looks like it would cover.  CO is my worst fear 
behind galley fire.  I’ve set off my CO simply by sleeping on-board and not 
having enough fresh air ventilation which could also be dangerous.  

James Bibb
Juneau, AK

SV Darwin’s Folly 
C&C 34-36 R  Rocket ship. 


> On Sep 4, 2019, at 8:50 AM, James Bibb via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Extreme high tide….I knew better in that location….depth sounder showed 11 
> feet and I know there are rocks over there.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> AFAIK the propane and gasoline detectors are the same thing.
>> Joe
>> Coquina
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul via 
>> CnC-List
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 12:27 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: paul.h...@rogers.com
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Dive Boat Fire
>> 
>> I currently have no detectors on my boat and although it is on my list, this
>> is a good reminder to speed up the install.  The way I see it, the detectors
>> I should have are
>> 
>> - smoke alarm
>> - propane alarm (sensor down low)
>> - CO detector
>> - gas fumes alarm (sensor down low)
>> 
>> I have 2  LPG tanks vented in cockpit, gas atomic 4.  
>> 
>> Any other suggestions from the list would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Paul Hood
>> 416.799.5549 c
>> 
>> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 13:13:13 +
>> From: "Della Barba, Joe" 
>> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
>> Subject: Stus-List Dive boat fire and egress
>> Message-ID: 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> I think I will swap out the CO detector for CO+Smoke.
>> I always think any boat that has a gasoline engine and has people sleeping
>> below underway needs a CO detector. 
>> Joe
>> Coquina
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Dive Boat Fire

2019-09-04 Thread James Bibb via CnC-List
Extreme high tide….I knew better in that location….depth sounder showed 11 feet 
and I know there are rocks over there.  




> On Sep 4, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> AFAIK the propane and gasoline detectors are the same thing.
> Joe
> Coquina
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul via 
> CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 12:27 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: paul.h...@rogers.com
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Dive Boat Fire
> 
> I currently have no detectors on my boat and although it is on my list, this
> is a good reminder to speed up the install.  The way I see it, the detectors
> I should have are
> 
> - smoke alarm
> - propane alarm (sensor down low)
> - CO detector
> - gas fumes alarm (sensor down low)
> 
> I have 2  LPG tanks vented in cockpit, gas atomic 4.  
> 
> Any other suggestions from the list would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Paul Hood
> 416.799.5549 c
> 
> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 13:13:13 +
> From: "Della Barba, Joe" 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Subject: Stus-List Dive boat fire and egress
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> I think I will swap out the CO detector for CO+Smoke.
> I always think any boat that has a gasoline engine and has people sleeping
> below underway needs a CO detector. 
> Joe
> Coquina
> 
> 
> 
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Stus-List Dive Boat Fire

2019-09-04 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
AFAIK the propane and gasoline detectors are the same thing.
Joe
Coquina


-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 12:27 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: paul.h...@rogers.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Dive Boat Fire

I currently have no detectors on my boat and although it is on my list, this
is a good reminder to speed up the install.  The way I see it, the detectors
I should have are

- smoke alarm
- propane alarm (sensor down low)
- CO detector
- gas fumes alarm (sensor down low)

I have 2  LPG tanks vented in cockpit, gas atomic 4.  

Any other suggestions from the list would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Paul Hood
416.799.5549 c

Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 13:13:13 +
From: "Della Barba, Joe" 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Stus-List Dive boat fire and egress
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I think I will swap out the CO detector for CO+Smoke.
I always think any boat that has a gasoline engine and has people sleeping
below underway needs a CO detector. 
Joe
Coquina



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Stus-List Dive Boat Fire

2019-09-04 Thread Paul via CnC-List
I currently have no detectors on my boat and although it is on my list, this
is a good reminder to speed up the install.  The way I see it, the detectors
I should have are

- smoke alarm
- propane alarm (sensor down low)
- CO detector
- gas fumes alarm (sensor down low)

I have 2  LPG tanks vented in cockpit, gas atomic 4.  

Any other suggestions from the list would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Paul Hood
416.799.5549 c

Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 13:13:13 +
From: "Della Barba, Joe" 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Stus-List Dive boat fire and egress
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I think I will swap out the CO detector for CO+Smoke.
I always think any boat that has a gasoline engine and has people sleeping
below underway needs a CO detector. 
Joe
Coquina



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Stus-List Dive boat fire and egress

2019-09-04 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I think I will swap out the CO detector for CO+Smoke.
I always think any boat that has a gasoline engine and has people sleeping 
below underway needs a CO detector. 
Joe
Coquina

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Len Mitchell 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 10:41 PM
To: CNC List 
Cc: Len Mitchell 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Dive boat fire and egress

Joe, Every single boat owner should have a smoke alarm on board. The odds of 
actually using a means of egress depend almost entirely upon getting an early 
warning. A smoke alarm is maybe $10 and some have integrated CO alarms too. It 
will be interesting to see what the cause of the fire was but everyone deserves 
a chance to escape a fire like that whether in a building or a boat. Just think 
about how much time passed before the boat was fully involved. There will be a 
lot more to that story than the news originally reported. Len

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Stus-List Dive boat fire and egress

2019-09-03 Thread Len Mitchell via CnC-List
Joe, Every single boat owner should have a smoke alarm on board. The odds of 
actually using a means of egress depend almost entirely upon getting an early 
warning. A smoke alarm is maybe $10 and some have integrated CO alarms too. It 
will be interesting to see what the cause of the fire was but everyone deserves 
a chance to escape a fire like that whether in a building or a boat. Just think 
about how much time passed before the boat was fully involved. There will be a 
lot more to that story than the news originally reported. Len

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Stus-List Dive boat fire and egress

2019-09-03 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I am sure you have all been reading about the 30+ people that died on the dive 
boat that caught on fire. It is horrible reading and it really got me to 
thinking about my own boat. I don’t do it so much now at my advanced age, but 
throwing the forward hatch all the way open and climbing in and out of it was 
pretty standard fare when we were kids.
I just made damn sure my family knows how to release the hatch supports and 
climb out.
I also may get a boat smoke detector. I already have a CO detector. We had a 
live-aboard powerboat go up this winter and the lady that was living on her 
barely got out. The boat went up very fast.
Joe
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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