Re: Stus-List Drive Handle
FWIW, I replaced the relatively small (and beat up) controls on the Edson pedestal on my current boat (1976 42 Custom) with new stainless handles from one of those discount marine hardware outlets. We had to do some adjusting to get them to work correctly (they were a little too long based on the existing settings and the forward lever would bang into the pedestal guard before engaging), but they now look and work great for very little money. The Edson pedestal on my current boat is very similar to the pedestal on my previous 34 (1978). -Original Message- From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:25 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chuck Gilchrest Subject: Re: Stus-List Drive Handle Hello Paul, Not all engine controls are the same and from your description, it is difficult to understand which one you have on your boat. For most engine controls, C used Edson pedestal mounted controls. You can look on edsonmarine.com to see if they show the two most common varieties (870 and 816). If your control sits between the wheel and the pedestal and has 2 extra stainless steel tubes in which the cables run, you may find parts hard to come by as it was discontinued some years ago. You mention that your engine is difficult to shift from forward to reverse which is often a function of the type of gearbox on the boat. Gasoline Atomic 4 engines with Paragon transmis Isions were notoriously hard shifting and had a very long travel engagement lever on the transmission, requiring a special series of shift cables (Morse/Teleflex series 64). If this is the case with your boat, you indeed may need to buy a longer shift handle to operate your engine controls. Perhaps if you sent me a photo or made a link to a photo of your engine control, I can determine what control it is and give you direction on fixing the lever. Or you can call Edson and speak to Ken Martin in customer service and he'll find the right part for you, but will likely be asking the same questions that I would (type or description of the control, type of engine and gearbox, last time you changed the control cable, etc.) Chuck Gilchrest S/V Half Magic 1983 Landfall 35 Padanaram, MA -Original Message- From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Paul via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 11:05 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: paul.h...@rogers.com Subject: Stus-List Drive Handle OK, so a lesson learned. Don't assume a temporary fix is good forever. A few years back when I picked up the boat, the portside lever for the F/R shifting was missing. I figured I'd eventually find it in the boat but never did. In the meantime, I cut the head off a bolt, slid it in the shifter and of course needing more leverage slid the manual bilge pump handle overtop to extend for the needed leverage. It actually fit well on all accounts. This past weekend, coming into the marina with some friends, I was on deck halfway forward when my friend was helming into the marina and as he was pulling up to pull out of gear, the darn bolt came out. I guess he pulled slightly out while pulling up. None the less, I told him to put it back in and sure enough, he pushed it back and slide the bolt into the bilge pump handle...far enough that it wouldn't work. Being snug, it wouldn't come back out. Now in gear, going slightly too fast and running through the marina, I started running...also thinking I should get that fixed. I got it sorted out but figured I better get the proper handle. Anyone know what it looks like or where I can get one. The pedestal side of the assembly has some sort of a spring which appears to pressure the proper male end fitting once slide in. It will likely be shorter too than what I'm using which will mean looking at the gear box as it is very stiff to get in/out gear (cable runs smooth) but that's another issue altogether. Paul Hood 1981 C Georgian Bay ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Drive Handle
Hello Paul, Not all engine controls are the same and from your description, it is difficult to understand which one you have on your boat. For most engine controls, C used Edson pedestal mounted controls. You can look on edsonmarine.com to see if they show the two most common varieties (870 and 816). If your control sits between the wheel and the pedestal and has 2 extra stainless steel tubes in which the cables run, you may find parts hard to come by as it was discontinued some years ago. You mention that your engine is difficult to shift from forward to reverse which is often a function of the type of gearbox on the boat. Gasoline Atomic 4 engines with Paragon transmis Isions were notoriously hard shifting and had a very long travel engagement lever on the transmission, requiring a special series of shift cables (Morse/Teleflex series 64). If this is the case with your boat, you indeed may need to buy a longer shift handle to operate your engine controls. Perhaps if you sent me a photo or made a link to a photo of your engine control, I can determine what control it is and give you direction on fixing the lever. Or you can call Edson and speak to Ken Martin in customer service and he'll find the right part for you, but will likely be asking the same questions that I would (type or description of the control, type of engine and gearbox, last time you changed the control cable, etc.) Chuck Gilchrest S/V Half Magic 1983 Landfall 35 Padanaram, MA -Original Message- From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Paul via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 11:05 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: paul.h...@rogers.com Subject: Stus-List Drive Handle OK, so a lesson learned. Don't assume a temporary fix is good forever. A few years back when I picked up the boat, the portside lever for the F/R shifting was missing. I figured I'd eventually find it in the boat but never did. In the meantime, I cut the head off a bolt, slid it in the shifter and of course needing more leverage slid the manual bilge pump handle overtop to extend for the needed leverage. It actually fit well on all accounts. This past weekend, coming into the marina with some friends, I was on deck halfway forward when my friend was helming into the marina and as he was pulling up to pull out of gear, the darn bolt came out. I guess he pulled slightly out while pulling up. None the less, I told him to put it back in and sure enough, he pushed it back and slide the bolt into the bilge pump handle...far enough that it wouldn't work. Being snug, it wouldn't come back out. Now in gear, going slightly too fast and running through the marina, I started running...also thinking I should get that fixed. I got it sorted out but figured I better get the proper handle. Anyone know what it looks like or where I can get one. The pedestal side of the assembly has some sort of a spring which appears to pressure the proper male end fitting once slide in. It will likely be shorter too than what I'm using which will mean looking at the gear box as it is very stiff to get in/out gear (cable runs smooth) but that's another issue altogether. Paul Hood 1981 C Georgian Bay ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List Drive Handle
OK, so a lesson learned. Don't assume a temporary fix is good forever. A few years back when I picked up the boat, the portside lever for the F/R shifting was missing. I figured I'd eventually find it in the boat but never did. In the meantime, I cut the head off a bolt, slid it in the shifter and of course needing more leverage slid the manual bilge pump handle overtop to extend for the needed leverage. It actually fit well on all accounts. This past weekend, coming into the marina with some friends, I was on deck halfway forward when my friend was helming into the marina and as he was pulling up to pull out of gear, the darn bolt came out. I guess he pulled slightly out while pulling up. None the less, I told him to put it back in and sure enough, he pushed it back and slide the bolt into the bilge pump handle...far enough that it wouldn't work. Being snug, it wouldn't come back out. Now in gear, going slightly too fast and running through the marina, I started running...also thinking I should get that fixed. I got it sorted out but figured I better get the proper handle. Anyone know what it looks like or where I can get one. The pedestal side of the assembly has some sort of a spring which appears to pressure the proper male end fitting once slide in. It will likely be shorter too than what I'm using which will mean looking at the gear box as it is very stiff to get in/out gear (cable runs smooth) but that's another issue altogether. Paul Hood 1981 C Georgian Bay ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
