Stus-List Engine Troubles Injector Rebuild

2015-06-22 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
Here's another option:  Instead of paying 125.00 per for rebuild why not 
buy brand new ones for 132.00 bucks each? 

See here:  
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yanmar-1GM-2GM-3GM-Injector-NEW-Part-728170-53100-FREE-SHIPPING-/151718415253

Mine were sticking / cold start was smoky and sometimes laborious. I have 
shopped for / seen them for less in the past. 

I can postpone that purchase now.. With a steady diet of Power Kleen and 
regular once a week use (or more) thanks for Wed nite racing.  It's pretty 
much cured:  It cold starts in 2-3 secs with the throttle on idle.  (It 
used to refuse to start on anything less than full throttle / several 
minutes of cranking) 


Regards

-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ 'Take Five
Lake Lanier, GA

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Re: Stus-List Engine Troubles Injector Rebuild

2015-06-22 Thread PME via CnC-List

I found that some Yanmar parts are readily available at Tractor Supply stores.  
For example,  using the Yanmar part number (724770-53100) in the Hoye Tractor 
search field I found the following 3QM30 injectors cross listed to IA-4770 for 
$118. See http://www.hoyetractor.com/PROD/search/IA-4770.htm 
http://www.hoyetractor.com/PROD/search/IA-4770.htm

I saved over $600 buying 3 new injector pre-combustion chambers. Mastry Yanmar 
wanted nearly $300 per cylinder, I got them for about $60 per cylinder at Hoye.

I did not buy new injectors, I brought my injector pump and injectors to a 
Diesel shop.  They rebuilt the pump for about $200, and tested the injectors(no 
charge).  The injectors were fine.   The place I went to was called Shiver 
Diesel Injection just outside of Tallahassee, and since we have a diesel 
injection shop out at no-where-ville, I’m guessing there’s a similar place near 
you.


-
Paul E.
1981 CC Landfall 38
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL




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 Here's another option:  Instead of paying 125.00 per for rebuild why not 
 buy brand new ones for 132.00 bucks each? 
 
 See here:  
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yanmar-1GM-2GM-3GM-Injector-NEW-Part-728170-53100-FREE-SHIPPING-/151718415253
  
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yanmar-1GM-2GM-3GM-Injector-NEW-Part-728170-53100-FREE-SHIPPING-/151718415253
 
 Mine were sticking / cold start was smoky and sometimes laborious. I have 
 shopped for / seen them for less in the past. 
 
 I can postpone that purchase now.. With a steady diet of Power Kleen and 
 regular once a week use (or more) thanks for Wed nite racing.  It's pretty 
 much cured:  It cold starts in 2-3 secs with the throttle on idle.  (It 
 used to refuse to start on anything less than full throttle / several 
 minutes of cranking) 
 
 
 Regards
 
 -Francois Rivard
 1990 34+ 'Take Five
 Lake Lanier, GA

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Re: Stus-List Engine Troubles Injector Rebuild

2015-06-22 Thread Nauset Beach via CnC-List
Mike, 

 

I also have a 3GM30F and at the time [2010] the work on the head gasket and 
injectors was done the engine was ~ 25 yo, 12 of which I had been the owner.  
Was getting quite a bit soot on the transom, cold starts were becoming 
increasingly difficult and the idle was rough.  As I had never done any major 
work on the engine and since the head was pulled and sent to a machine shop to 
be reconditioned, the mechanic recommended having the injectors sent out to a 
shop to be rebuilt, rightly concluding the “spray pattern” was not optimal.  It 
took about a week + but part of that time was due to the injector shop owner 
had recently passed away and his widow was doing the work, without all the 
“certified training.”  The injectors had to be redone.  The mechanic also 
adjusted the valves so everything was back in spec.  

 

Pulling just the injectors did not appear to be an overly complicated process.  
The injector rebuild itself included replacing the nozzles and was US$125 for 
each injector.  The total hours billed included a few other repairs / 
replacements so would estimate the labor for the injectors themselves were ~ 3 
hours all in.  Add in a few other minor parts like copper washers. 

 

HTH

 

Brian

 

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Brian

 

What was involved with checking the injectors and having them rebuilt?  Was it 
time consuming to remove them and costly for rebuild?

 

Mike

Persistence

Yanmar 3GM30F

Halifax

 

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Edd,

 

When I had my gasket replaced on my Yanmar a few years ago [was getting oil in 
the coolant] the mechanic also highly recommended it would be a good time to 
have the injectors checked  / rebuilt, and have a compression check on each of 
the cylinders – one was near the minimum and the others were fine.  It all made 
a big difference in how the engine performed, the exhaust was much less sooty 
and the transom actually stayed clean for a while.  

 

Brian

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Re: Stus-List Engine Troubles Injector Rebuild

2015-06-22 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Thanks Brian

The injector rebuild is something that is on my list of upcoming projects

Mike

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Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 10:07 AM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Troubles  Injector Rebuild

Mike,

I also have a 3GM30F and at the time [2010] the work on the head gasket and 
injectors was done the engine was ~ 25 yo, 12 of which I had been the owner.  
Was getting quite a bit soot on the transom, cold starts were becoming 
increasingly difficult and the idle was rough.  As I had never done any major 
work on the engine and since the head was pulled and sent to a machine shop to 
be reconditioned, the mechanic recommended having the injectors sent out to a 
shop to be rebuilt, rightly concluding the “spray pattern” was not optimal.  It 
took about a week + but part of that time was due to the injector shop owner 
had recently passed away and his widow was doing the work, without all the 
“certified training.”  The injectors had to be redone.  The mechanic also 
adjusted the valves so everything was back in spec.

Pulling just the injectors did not appear to be an overly complicated process.  
The injector rebuild itself included replacing the nozzles and was US$125 for 
each injector.  The total hours billed included a few other repairs / 
replacements so would estimate the labor for the injectors themselves were ~ 3 
hours all in.  Add in a few other minor parts like copper washers.

HTH

Brian

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Brian

What was involved with checking the injectors and having them rebuilt?  Was it 
time consuming to remove them and costly for rebuild?

Mike
Persistence
Yanmar 3GM30F
Halifax

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Troubles

Edd,

When I had my gasket replaced on my Yanmar a few years ago [was getting oil in 
the coolant] the mechanic also highly recommended it would be a good time to 
have the injectors checked  / rebuilt, and have a compression check on each of 
the cylinders – one was near the minimum and the others were fine.  It all made 
a big difference in how the engine performed, the exhaust was much less sooty 
and the transom actually stayed clean for a while.

Brian
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