Re: Stus-List Exhaust hose replacement for 33-1
Rick, Did you buy access panels that were ready to install? If so, where? Sounds like a great improvement over the 6 inch access port I currently have there. I will be installing a boarding ladder this winter, and that would help a lot. Also for adjusting the tension in the steering cables on the quadrant. Eric Frank ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Exhaust hose replacement for 33-1
Rick Could we get a few pics of your arrangement. Gary Rick Brass via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I had to get into the area inside the transom of my 38 for several reasons, during the refit in 2009. Among those reasons were replacing the exhaust hose and the discharge hose for my bilge pumps. I agree that it looked like this stuff was put in before the deck was installed. BTW, Rod, the layout on the 38 is basically identical to the 33-1. My solution to access was to buy two large rectangular access panels - 12 x 15 I think - and use these to replace the 6 round screw in ports that were on the aft wall of the cockpit. Not only do I have good access to hose connection, wiring, the bolts holding the boarding ladder, etc.; I have installed a square of trampoline netting from a beach cat in the bottom of the space inside the transom and have storage space for spare dock lines, the floats for my anchor trip line, and some other infrequently used items that were in the cockpit lazarettes. Rick Brass Sent from my iPad On Nov 12, 2014, at 17:51, ahycrace--- via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Guys I Have A 38' MK II with the same problem I want to replace that hose but no way am I going in there. Thinking of going to Brewer yard around here or oldport marine in Newport and hoping I don't have to take out a second mortgage to pay for it. Gary Kolc Liberty David Paine via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: In my 1975 CC 33-1, I was able (many years ago) to get my daughter (when she was 11) to squeeze into that space (twice) once to remove the old exhaust and again to put a new one back on. We did this by removing the engine control panel and both screw-on access ports to reduce claustrophobia. I do recall saying righty tighty repeatedly as she couldn't initially get the hose clamp to tighten. In the worst case, I think you can remove the steering quadrant and then even I could squeeze back there (though I've never tried it). Good luck! David On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I just found something to like about my ¾ ton special. I have a deck hatch on the gunwale aft of the cockpit that is big enough to let me get right down into that space behind the engine. I can get to everything in there without performing any circus tricks or cutting anything. I am not familiar enough with the layout of the 33-1 to offer much assistance except this: The reason your exhaust hose loops up before attaching at the tail pipe is to create a siphon block. You should plan the same for your new hose. Best of luck! Burt 1974 CC 33 ¾ ton special Portsmouth, RI (still searching for a good name) *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Rod Randow via CnC-List *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 1:53 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List Exhaust hose replacement for 33-1 With all the talk about the 3/4 tons and the 33-1, how do you replace the exhaust hose on the 33-1? Have any 33-1 owners had the exhaust hose replaced? I would like to replace the exhaust hose, muffler to transom, on my 33-1. The issue is removing the hose from the “tailpipe” on the reverse transom. There are two round inspection ports high up on the aft cockpit wall but the distance from each to the hose clamps is probably four feet. Without cutting new lower ports, the approach from the cockpit does not seem to be a option. Cutting a large opening(s) near the cockpit floor is something I would greatly like to avoid. Approaching the hose clamps from the starboard cockpit locker (open space from saloon bulkhead to transom except for enclosed port quarter berth) I can barely reach the rudder quadrant and the clamps are probably another 3-4 feet further aft. Maybe removing the gas tank and rudder quadrant, because the center section is deeper in this IOR narrow and pointy transom, a very skinny person with long arms might be able to reach the clamps. See diagram below. Have any owners with a similar configuration had the exhaust hose replaced? The exhaust hose actually makes a loop high up into this transom section before exiting at the fitting. Any suggestions, tips, tricks on how to remove the hose clamps and hose from the fitting are welcome. Use Courier font for drawing (not to scale
Stus-List Exhaust hose replacement for 33-1
With all the talk about the 3/4 tons and the 33-1, how do you replace the exhaust hose on the 33-1? Have any 33-1 owners had the exhaust hose replaced? I would like to replace the exhaust hose, muffler to transom, on my 33-1. The issue is removing the hose from the “tailpipe” on the reverse transom. There are two round inspection ports high up on the aft cockpit wall but the distance from each to the hose clamps is probably four feet. Without cutting new lower ports, the approach from the cockpit does not seem to be a option. Cutting a large opening(s) near the cockpit floor is something I would greatly like to avoid. Approaching the hose clamps from the starboard cockpit locker (open space from saloon bulkhead to transom except for enclosed port quarter berth) I can barely reach the rudder quadrant and the clamps are probably another 3-4 feet further aft. Maybe removing the gas tank and rudder quadrant, because the center section is deeper in this IOR narrow and pointy transom, a very skinny person with long arms might be able to reach the clamps. See diagram below. Have any owners with a similar configuration had the exhaust hose replaced? The exhaust hose actually makes a loop high up into this transom section before exiting at the fitting. Any suggestions, tips, tricks on how to remove the hose clamps and hose from the fitting are welcome. Use Courier font for drawing (not to scale): ___ / | /() / | / | ~ ~ ~~ / |___||_ / || =/= || /|| \__ || \||__ || rudder ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Exhaust hose replacement for 33-1
I just found something to like about my ¾ ton special. I have a deck hatch on the gunwale aft of the cockpit that is big enough to let me get right down into that space behind the engine. I can get to everything in there without performing any circus tricks or cutting anything. I am not familiar enough with the layout of the 33-1 to offer much assistance except this: The reason your exhaust hose loops up before attaching at the tail pipe is to create a siphon block. You should plan the same for your new hose. Best of luck! Burt 1974 CC 33 ¾ ton special Portsmouth, RI (still searching for a good name) From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rod Randow via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 1:53 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Exhaust hose replacement for 33-1 With all the talk about the 3/4 tons and the 33-1, how do you replace the exhaust hose on the 33-1? Have any 33-1 owners had the exhaust hose replaced? I would like to replace the exhaust hose, muffler to transom, on my 33-1. The issue is removing the hose from the “tailpipe” on the reverse transom. There are two round inspection ports high up on the aft cockpit wall but the distance from each to the hose clamps is probably four feet. Without cutting new lower ports, the approach from the cockpit does not seem to be a option. Cutting a large opening(s) near the cockpit floor is something I would greatly like to avoid. Approaching the hose clamps from the starboard cockpit locker (open space from saloon bulkhead to transom except for enclosed port quarter berth) I can barely reach the rudder quadrant and the clamps are probably another 3-4 feet further aft. Maybe removing the gas tank and rudder quadrant, because the center section is deeper in this IOR narrow and pointy transom, a very skinny person with long arms might be able to reach the clamps. See diagram below. Have any owners with a similar configuration had the exhaust hose replaced? The exhaust hose actually makes a loop high up into this transom section before exiting at the fitting. Any suggestions, tips, tricks on how to remove the hose clamps and hose from the fitting are welcome. Use Courier font for drawing (not to scale): ___ / | /() / | / | ~ ~ ~~ / |___||_ / || =/= || /|| \__ || \||__ || rudder ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Exhaust hose replacement for 33-1
In my 1975 CC 33-1, I was able (many years ago) to get my daughter (when she was 11) to squeeze into that space (twice) once to remove the old exhaust and again to put a new one back on. We did this by removing the engine control panel and both screw-on access ports to reduce claustrophobia. I do recall saying righty tighty repeatedly as she couldn't initially get the hose clamp to tighten. In the worst case, I think you can remove the steering quadrant and then even I could squeeze back there (though I've never tried it). Good luck! David On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I just found something to like about my ¾ ton special. I have a deck hatch on the gunwale aft of the cockpit that is big enough to let me get right down into that space behind the engine. I can get to everything in there without performing any circus tricks or cutting anything. I am not familiar enough with the layout of the 33-1 to offer much assistance except this: The reason your exhaust hose loops up before attaching at the tail pipe is to create a siphon block. You should plan the same for your new hose. Best of luck! Burt 1974 CC 33 ¾ ton special Portsmouth, RI (still searching for a good name) *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Rod Randow via CnC-List *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 1:53 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List Exhaust hose replacement for 33-1 With all the talk about the 3/4 tons and the 33-1, how do you replace the exhaust hose on the 33-1? Have any 33-1 owners had the exhaust hose replaced? I would like to replace the exhaust hose, muffler to transom, on my 33-1. The issue is removing the hose from the “tailpipe” on the reverse transom. There are two round inspection ports high up on the aft cockpit wall but the distance from each to the hose clamps is probably four feet. Without cutting new lower ports, the approach from the cockpit does not seem to be a option. Cutting a large opening(s) near the cockpit floor is something I would greatly like to avoid. Approaching the hose clamps from the starboard cockpit locker (open space from saloon bulkhead to transom except for enclosed port quarter berth) I can barely reach the rudder quadrant and the clamps are probably another 3-4 feet further aft. Maybe removing the gas tank and rudder quadrant, because the center section is deeper in this IOR narrow and pointy transom, a very skinny person with long arms might be able to reach the clamps. See diagram below. Have any owners with a similar configuration had the exhaust hose replaced? The exhaust hose actually makes a loop high up into this transom section before exiting at the fitting. Any suggestions, tips, tricks on how to remove the hose clamps and hose from the fitting are welcome. Use Courier font for drawing (not to scale): ___ / | /() / | / | ~ ~ ~~ / |___||_ / || =/= || /|| \__ || \||__ || rudder ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Exhaust hose replacement for 33-1
A hole saw and an access port will cost about 1% of the yard bill for someone to take a bunch of stuff apart and get back there. Just sayin' Joe Della Barba Coquina -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of ahycrace--- via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 5:52 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; David Paine Subject: Re: Stus-List Exhaust hose replacement for 33-1 Guys I Have A 38' MK II with the same problem I want to replace that hose but no way am I going in there. Thinking of going to Brewer yard around here or oldport marine in Newport and hoping I don't have to take out a second mortgage to pay for it. Gary Kolc Liberty David Paine via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: In my 1975 CC 33-1, I was able (many years ago) to get my daughter (when she was 11) to squeeze into that space (twice) once to remove the old exhaust and again to put a new one back on. We did this by removing the engine control panel and both screw-on access ports to reduce claustrophobia. I do recall saying righty tighty repeatedly as she couldn't initially get the hose clamp to tighten. In the worst case, I think you can remove the steering quadrant and then even I could squeeze back there (though I've never tried it). Good luck! David On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I just found something to like about my ton special. I have a deck hatch on the gunwale aft of the cockpit that is big enough to let me get right down into that space behind the engine. I can get to everything in there without performing any circus tricks or cutting anything. I am not familiar enough with the layout of the 33-1 to offer much assistance except this: The reason your exhaust hose loops up before attaching at the tail pipe is to create a siphon block. You should plan the same for your new hose. Best of luck! Burt 1974 CC 33 ton special Portsmouth, RI (still searching for a good name) *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Rod Randow via CnC-List *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 1:53 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List Exhaust hose replacement for 33-1 With all the talk about the 3/4 tons and the 33-1, how do you replace the exhaust hose on the 33-1? Have any 33-1 owners had the exhaust hose replaced? I would like to replace the exhaust hose, muffler to transom, on my 33-1. The issue is removing the hose from the tailpipe on the reverse transom. There are two round inspection ports high up on the aft cockpit wall but the distance from each to the hose clamps is probably four feet. Without cutting new lower ports, the approach from the cockpit does not seem to be a option. Cutting a large opening(s) near the cockpit floor is something I would greatly like to avoid. Approaching the hose clamps from the starboard cockpit locker (open space from saloon bulkhead to transom except for enclosed port quarter berth) I can barely reach the rudder quadrant and the clamps are probably another 3-4 feet further aft. Maybe removing the gas tank and rudder quadrant, because the center section is deeper in this IOR narrow and pointy transom, a very skinny person with long arms might be able to reach the clamps. See diagram below. Have any owners with a similar configuration had the exhaust hose replaced? The exhaust hose actually makes a loop high up into this transom section before exiting at the fitting. Any suggestions, tips, tricks on how to remove the hose clamps and hose from the fitting are welcome. Use Courier font for drawing (not to scale): ___ / | /() / | / | ~ ~ ~~ / |___||_ / || =/= || /|| \__ || \||__ || rudder ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Exhaust hose replacement for 33-1
I had to get into the area inside the transom of my 38 for several reasons, during the refit in 2009. Among those reasons were replacing the exhaust hose and the discharge hose for my bilge pumps. I agree that it looked like this stuff was put in before the deck was installed. BTW, Rod, the layout on the 38 is basically identical to the 33-1. My solution to access was to buy two large rectangular access panels - 12 x 15 I think - and use these to replace the 6 round screw in ports that were on the aft wall of the cockpit. Not only do I have good access to hose connection, wiring, the bolts holding the boarding ladder, etc.; I have installed a square of trampoline netting from a beach cat in the bottom of the space inside the transom and have storage space for spare dock lines, the floats for my anchor trip line, and some other infrequently used items that were in the cockpit lazarettes. Rick Brass Sent from my iPad On Nov 12, 2014, at 17:51, ahycrace--- via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Guys I Have A 38' MK II with the same problem I want to replace that hose but no way am I going in there. Thinking of going to Brewer yard around here or oldport marine in Newport and hoping I don't have to take out a second mortgage to pay for it. Gary Kolc Liberty David Paine via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: In my 1975 CC 33-1, I was able (many years ago) to get my daughter (when she was 11) to squeeze into that space (twice) once to remove the old exhaust and again to put a new one back on. We did this by removing the engine control panel and both screw-on access ports to reduce claustrophobia. I do recall saying righty tighty repeatedly as she couldn't initially get the hose clamp to tighten. In the worst case, I think you can remove the steering quadrant and then even I could squeeze back there (though I've never tried it). Good luck! David On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I just found something to like about my ¾ ton special. I have a deck hatch on the gunwale aft of the cockpit that is big enough to let me get right down into that space behind the engine. I can get to everything in there without performing any circus tricks or cutting anything. I am not familiar enough with the layout of the 33-1 to offer much assistance except this: The reason your exhaust hose loops up before attaching at the tail pipe is to create a siphon block. You should plan the same for your new hose. Best of luck! Burt 1974 CC 33 ¾ ton special Portsmouth, RI (still searching for a good name) *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Rod Randow via CnC-List *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 1:53 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List Exhaust hose replacement for 33-1 With all the talk about the 3/4 tons and the 33-1, how do you replace the exhaust hose on the 33-1? Have any 33-1 owners had the exhaust hose replaced? I would like to replace the exhaust hose, muffler to transom, on my 33-1. The issue is removing the hose from the “tailpipe” on the reverse transom. There are two round inspection ports high up on the aft cockpit wall but the distance from each to the hose clamps is probably four feet. Without cutting new lower ports, the approach from the cockpit does not seem to be a option. Cutting a large opening(s) near the cockpit floor is something I would greatly like to avoid. Approaching the hose clamps from the starboard cockpit locker (open space from saloon bulkhead to transom except for enclosed port quarter berth) I can barely reach the rudder quadrant and the clamps are probably another 3-4 feet further aft. Maybe removing the gas tank and rudder quadrant, because the center section is deeper in this IOR narrow and pointy transom, a very skinny person with long arms might be able to reach the clamps. See diagram below. Have any owners with a similar configuration had the exhaust hose replaced? The exhaust hose actually makes a loop high up into this transom section before exiting at the fitting. Any suggestions, tips, tricks on how to remove the hose clamps and hose from the fitting are welcome. Use Courier font for drawing (not to scale): ___ / | /() / | / | ~ ~ ~~ / |___||_ / || =/= || /|| \__ || \||__ || rudder ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album
