Re: Stus-List FW: Fwd: Fwd: Cabin Sole resurfacing

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Mike,

That. Is. One. Beautiful. Cabin sole.

Well worth the effort I’d say. I’m going to look into that 1/2 router edge that 
you made. My early version of the 37’ doesn’t have the nice liner edges that 
yours does but it may be an important technique. My model simply drops in, 
butts up to the joiner work and is finished teak 1/4-round moulding.

Questions: what is the substrate that you used? Did you screw the panels in 
like was done on my model? It’s a design “feature” that I have not been wild 
about and am thinking about some other fastening system when I put my cabin 
sole back in.

Having been exposed to new boats with flooring systems like yours I have to 
think that it will hold up better that the original teak and holly 3/4” ply.

Well done.

Regards,
Dave Godwin
1982 C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 

> On Nov 15, 2019, at 6:16 PM, Mike Taylor via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Bruce, Rod, Et Al
>  
> Here is a link to some pictures of my Lonseal cabin sole install.  Cabin Sole 
> 
>  
> Sorry Rod I down race so I can’t answer your questions.  My opinion; the 
> product itself is a superior vinyl product and with proper installation there 
> should be no issue.  That being said if you drop something the Lonseal will 
> hold up well but the substrate may dent and be visible.
>  
> Some tips
> Design substrate (plywood) with as few seams as possible.
> Router bottom outsides edges with ½” router
> Apply a minimum of 2 coats of epoxy to all pieces on all sides
> Roll out the Lonseal  on a solid flat surface (living room floor) upside down 
> then lay plywood upside down in the pattern it will be applied.  Cut Lonseal 
> at least 1” larger than required on all side.  Makes it easier to install and 
> easier to trim after glue is set.
> Tape joints like you would with drywall.  I didn’t.
> Use j-roller instead of recommended 100 lb. roller.  See mod I made to 
> j-roller so I could apply more weight
> Follow gluing instructions to the letter especially the off gassing.  I 
> didn’t and some bubbles occurred that couldn’t be rolled out.
> Use router with edge trimmer to cut bilge ports.
>  
> I was lucky that my sole was a bit narrower than the LonSeal.  Just ensure 
> the pieces in the v-berth and the small piece in the galley lines all line 
> up.  Same thing for the bilge access ports.  I had to make a small lengthwise 
> cut around the mast truck to fit around the centreboard tube.  It can’t be 
> seen unless you really look for it.
>  
> Mike
>  

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Stus-List FW: Fwd: Fwd: Cabin Sole resurfacing

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Bruce, Rod, Et Al

Here is a link to some pictures of my Lonseal cabin sole install.  Cabin Sole

Sorry Rod I down race so I can’t answer your questions.  My opinion; the 
product itself is a superior vinyl product and with proper installation there 
should be no issue.  That being said if you drop something the Lonseal will 
hold up well but the substrate may dent and be visible.

Some tips
Design substrate (plywood) with as few seams as possible. 
Router bottom outsides edges with ½” router
Apply a minimum of 2 coats of epoxy to all pieces on all sides
Roll out the Lonseal  on a solid flat surface (living room floor) upside down 
then lay plywood upside down in the pattern it will be applied.  Cut Lonseal at 
least 1” larger than required on all side.  Makes it easier to install and 
easier to trim after glue is set.
Tape joints like you would with drywall.  I didn’t.
Use j-roller instead of recommended 100 lb. roller.  See mod I made to j-roller 
so I could apply more weight
Follow gluing instructions to the letter especially the off gassing.  I didn’t 
and some bubbles occurred that couldn’t be rolled out.
Use router with edge trimmer to cut bilge ports.

I was lucky that my sole was a bit narrower than the LonSeal.  Just ensure the 
pieces in the v-berth and the small piece in the galley lines all line up.  
Same thing for the bilge access ports.  I had to make a small lengthwise cut 
around the mast truck to fit around the centreboard tube.  It can’t be seen 
unless you really look for it.

Mike


From: bwhitmore via CnC-List
Sent: November 10, 2019 7:11 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: bwhitmore
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Fwd: Cabin Sole resurfacing

Hi Mike and group,  

If anyone has good photos of the installed Lonseal PlasTeak product,  I'd like 
to see them.

As much as I am a traditionalist, ease of repair my win out.

I'd really like to know if you can notice a distinct difference between this 
and real teak.

Thanks!

Bruce 



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 Original message 
From: Mike Taylor via CnC-List  
Date: 11/9/19 4:42 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Mike Taylor  
Subject: Stus-List Fwd:  Fwd:  Cabin Sole resurfacing 

Hi Rod

Here is a link to the product I purchased from Defender.  Correction on product 
name.  PlasTeak is the trade name.  Lonseal makes them all.

https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1%7C2276179%7C2276198%7C2276201=3325405

I’m on the east coast now I could provide pics next week when I get home.

Mike
Begin forwarded message:
From: Rod Stright 
Date: November 9, 2019 at 5:06:27 PM AST
Cc: Mike Taylor 
Subject: Re:  Stus-List Fwd:  Cabin Sole resurfacing
Can you send additional info haven’t heard of it here.

Thanks
Rod 
Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 9, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Mike Taylor via CnC-List  
wrote:

Dave

I went with PlasTeak a few years ago.  New plywood with 2 coats of West system 
epoxy.  Looks real good.  Got it at Defender.  Can send some tips and pics if 
you desire.

Mike
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From: David Knecht via CnC-List 
Date: November 9, 2019 at 9:22:28 AM AST
To: CnC discussion list CnC 
Cc: David Knecht 
Subject: Stus-List Cabin Sole resurfacing
Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
The cabin sole on my boat is not in great shape.  There are areas where the 
holly stripes and are gone or pulling away.   I am considering what to do and 
have a vague recollection of someone using a glue-on faux teak/holley covering 
over the wood (Nautikflor?) but I can’t find that discussion anywhere in the 
archives.  Has anyone done that?  Thanks- Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT




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