Re: Stus-List Outboard motor for dinghy

2020-05-31 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
We just bought a Minn Kota trolling motor for our Walker Bay 8 hard dinghy.
As I didn't have time to source fancy batteries, I just got a Gr 24 deep
cycle lead acid for now. Planning to charge it using a smart 2/8/15A
charger powered by an inverter and our house bank (4 6V GC2 batteries),
which will soon be either 340 or 400W solar. I know the Minn Kota won't
compare with a 2hp outboard or the Torquedo, but the whole setup cost me
<$550 CAD including a battery charger, which I needed anyway. I was a bit
surprised that the Minn Kota actually weighs more than a Honda 2Hp (and of
course one of those came up for $150 the next day), but I detest gas
engines, and really don't want to carry another fuel aboard. Haven't tried
it yet, aside from a quick zip around the docks in 20kn wind, but speed
seemed ok, maybe 3 knots. If we want to go faster, we'll use the sail kit
on the WB... :)

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On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 12:11 PM bwhitmore via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> We have a torqeedo and a Mecury 6 hp 4 stroke, both from the prior owner
> of our boat, so I've compared them side-by-side.  The 6 hp can get our 10
> ft. PortaBote up on plane 13 kts., and with a separate tank has a really,
> really long run time.  Downside?  Small gasoline engines require fresh fuel
> and maintenance.  And, the weight makes it a challenge to take on & off the
> boat, though we have a system now that makes it a lot easier.
>
> By comparison, the torqeedo is nearly slient, I can put it on the boat
> with one hand, and I recharge the battery from my 12 volt system on
> Astralis.  Heck, if I want to extend the range, I can just bring one of my
> house batteries and connect the torqeedo to it.  Downsides?  The electrical
> connections can be a bit finnicky, and you won't get more than about 4 kts.
> out of it.
>
> I would personally not buy an off-brand electric.
>
> I like both, and its great that I have options.
>
> Bruce
> 1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet.
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: John Conklin via CnC-List 
> Date: 5/31/20 11:52 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: John Conklin 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Outboard motor for dinghy
>
> I looked hard at that one at Annapolis boat show last year  Super light
> nice affordable package. No where near the power of the torquedo Though
> There is one other I also really liked  will look for the brochure.
>
> John Conklin
> S/V Halcyon
> S/V Heartbeat
> www.flirtingwithfire.com
>
>
> On May 31, 2020, at 10:55 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>  Despite the extra cost, I am starting to like the idea of an electric.
> I also found this motor: EP Carry (
> https://www.electricpaddle.com/index.html).  It is made in the US,
> slightly cheaper and lighter than the Torqeedo but otherwise seem
> functionally equivalent.  A bit less high tech and less cool factor (no
> integrated USB charger or charge display).  One thing I think I like is
> that the battery pack is separate and connects with cable to motor.  So
> moving the motor from dinghy to C is two light packages (14 pounds and 6
> pounds with the battery in a floating case).  For normal use, I would
> simply bring the battery pack home each time and recharge it.  Dave
>
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
>
> 
>
> On May 31, 2020, at 10:35 AM, John Conklin via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Yep Torqeudo next for me for sure (if I don’t find a used 2.5 or
> something) I have a LEHR 9.9 I M happy to sell  my back Just  can’t quite
> handle that one.
> Just had a long discussion with a guy at town dock he loves it!! And
> charges up easily from his solar panel
>
> John Conklin
> S/V Halcyon
> S/V Heartbeat
> www.flirtingwithfire.com
>
>
> On May 31, 2020, at 6:02 AM, Nathan Post via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>  Consider replacing with an electric. I got a Torqueedo 1103S for my
> dinghy (9ft Zodiac rib). The motor with battery is around 38 lbs but
> disassembles and the battery can be installed after you put the motor on
> the boat. Quiet, no fuel, no mess, No smell, runs every time as long as you
> charge it. The 503 Model is under 30 lbs I think if you are concerned about
> weight.  Also depends on which battery you get.  More money up front but a
> lot less hassle in the long run I expect (new this year for me).
> Nathan
> S/V Wisper
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Outboard motor for dinghy

2020-05-31 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List
We have a torqeedo and a Mecury 6 hp 4 stroke, both from the prior owner of our 
boat, so I've compared them side-by-side.  The 6 hp can get our 10 ft. 
PortaBote up on plane 13 kts., and with a separate tank has a really, really 
long run time.  Downside?  Small gasoline engines require fresh fuel and 
maintenance.  And, the weight makes it a challenge to take on & off the boat, 
though we have a system now that makes it a lot easier.By comparison, the 
torqeedo is nearly slient, I can put it on the boat with one hand, and I 
recharge the battery from my 12 volt system on Astralis.  Heck, if I want to 
extend the range, I can just bring one of my house batteries and connect the 
torqeedo to it.  Downsides?  The electrical connections can be a bit finnicky, 
and you won't get more than about 4 kts. out of it.  I would personally not buy 
an off-brand electric.I like both, and its great that I have options.Bruce1994 
C 37/40+ "Astralis"Sent from Samsung tablet.
 Original message From: John Conklin via CnC-List 
 Date: 5/31/20  11:52 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: John Conklin  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Outboard motor for dinghy 
I looked hard at that one at Annapolis boat show last year  Super light nice 
affordable package. No where near the power of the torquedo Though 

There is one other I also really liked  will look for the brochure. 

John Conklin 
S/V Halcyon
S/V Heartbeat
www.flirtingwithfire.com




On May 31, 2020, at 10:55 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List  
wrote:




 Despite the extra cost, I am starting to like the idea of an electric.  I 
also found this motor: EP Carry (https://www.electricpaddle.com/index.html).  
It is made in the US, slightly
 cheaper and lighter than the Torqeedo but otherwise seem functionally 
equivalent.  A bit less high tech and less cool factor (no integrated USB 
charger or charge display).  One thing I think I like is that the battery pack 
is separate and connects with cable
 to motor.  So moving the motor from dinghy to C is two light packages (14 
pounds and 6 pounds with the battery in a floating case).  For normal use, I 
would simply bring the battery pack home each time and recharge it.  Dave




S/V Aries

1990 C 34+

New London, CT







On May 31, 2020, at 10:35 AM, John Conklin via CnC-List  
wrote:


Yep Torqeudo next for me for sure (if I don’t find a used 2.5 or something) I 
have a LEHR 9.9 I M happy to sell  my back Just  can’t quite handle that one. 
Just had a long discussion with a guy at town dock he loves it!! And charges up 
easily from his solar panel

John Conklin 
S/V Halcyon
S/V Heartbeat
www.flirtingwithfire.com




On May 31, 2020, at 6:02 AM, Nathan Post via CnC-List  
wrote:




 Consider replacing with an electric. I got a Torqueedo 1103S for my dinghy 
(9ft Zodiac rib). The motor with battery is around 38 lbs but disassembles and 
the battery can be installed after you put the motor on the boat. Quiet, no 
fuel,
 no mess, No smell, runs every time as long as you charge it. The 503 Model is 
under 30 lbs I think if you are concerned about weight.  Also depends on which 
battery you get.  More money up front but a lot less hassle in the long run I 
expect (new this year
 for me). 
Nathan

S/V Wisper










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Re: Stus-List Outboard motor for dinghy

2020-05-31 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
I looked hard at that one at Annapolis boat show last year  Super light nice 
affordable package. No where near the power of the torquedo Though
There is one other I also really liked  will look for the brochure.

John Conklin
S/V Halcyon
S/V Heartbeat
www.flirtingwithfire.com


On May 31, 2020, at 10:55 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List  
wrote:

 Despite the extra cost, I am starting to like the idea of an electric.  I 
also found this motor: EP Carry (https://www.electricpaddle.com/index.html).  
It is made in the US, slightly cheaper and lighter than the Torqeedo but 
otherwise seem functionally equivalent.  A bit less high tech and less cool 
factor (no integrated USB charger or charge display).  One thing I think I like 
is that the battery pack is separate and connects with cable to motor.  So 
moving the motor from dinghy to C is two light packages (14 pounds and 6 
pounds with the battery in a floating case).  For normal use, I would simply 
bring the battery pack home each time and recharge it.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



On May 31, 2020, at 10:35 AM, John Conklin via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Yep Torqeudo next for me for sure (if I don’t find a used 2.5 or something) I 
have a LEHR 9.9 I M happy to sell  my back Just  can’t quite handle that one.
Just had a long discussion with a guy at town dock he loves it!! And charges up 
easily from his solar panel

John Conklin
S/V Halcyon
S/V Heartbeat
www.flirtingwithfire.com


On May 31, 2020, at 6:02 AM, Nathan Post via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

 Consider replacing with an electric. I got a Torqueedo 1103S for my dinghy 
(9ft Zodiac rib). The motor with battery is around 38 lbs but disassembles and 
the battery can be installed after you put the motor on the boat. Quiet, no 
fuel, no mess, No smell, runs every time as long as you charge it. The 503 
Model is under 30 lbs I think if you are concerned about weight.  Also depends 
on which battery you get.  More money up front but a lot less hassle in the 
long run I expect (new this year for me).
Nathan
S/V Wisper

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Re: Stus-List Outboard motor for dinghy

2020-05-31 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
Despite the extra cost, I am starting to like the idea of an electric.  I also 
found this motor: EP Carry (https://www.electricpaddle.com/index.html).  It is 
made in the US, slightly cheaper and lighter than the Torqeedo but otherwise 
seem functionally equivalent.  A bit less high tech and less cool factor (no 
integrated USB charger or charge display).  One thing I think I like is that 
the battery pack is separate and connects with cable to motor.  So moving the 
motor from dinghy to C is two light packages (14 pounds and 6 pounds with the 
battery in a floating case).  For normal use, I would simply bring the battery 
pack home each time and recharge it.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



> On May 31, 2020, at 10:35 AM, John Conklin via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yep Torqeudo next for me for sure (if I don’t find a used 2.5 or something) I 
> have a LEHR 9.9 I M happy to sell  my back Just  can’t quite handle that one. 
> Just had a long discussion with a guy at town dock he loves it!! And charges 
> up easily from his solar panel
> 
> John Conklin 
> S/V Halcyon
> S/V Heartbeat
> www.flirtingwithfire.com
> 
> 
>> On May 31, 2020, at 6:02 AM, Nathan Post via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  Consider replacing with an electric. I got a Torqueedo 1103S for my dinghy 
>> (9ft Zodiac rib). The motor with battery is around 38 lbs but disassembles 
>> and the battery can be installed after you put the motor on the boat. Quiet, 
>> no fuel, no mess, No smell, runs every time as long as you charge it. The 
>> 503 Model is under 30 lbs I think if you are concerned about weight.  Also 
>> depends on which battery you get.  More money up front but a lot less hassle 
>> in the long run I expect (new this year for me). 
>> Nathan
>> S/V Wisper

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Re: Stus-List Outboard motor for dinghy

2020-05-31 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
Yep Torqeudo next for me for sure (if I don’t find a used 2.5 or something) I 
have a LEHR 9.9 I M happy to sell  my back Just  can’t quite handle that one.
Just had a long discussion with a guy at town dock he loves it!! And charges up 
easily from his solar panel

John Conklin
S/V Halcyon
S/V Heartbeat
www.flirtingwithfire.com


On May 31, 2020, at 6:02 AM, Nathan Post via CnC-List  
wrote:

 Consider replacing with an electric. I got a Torqueedo 1103S for my dinghy 
(9ft Zodiac rib). The motor with battery is around 38 lbs but disassembles and 
the battery can be installed after you put the motor on the boat. Quiet, no 
fuel, no mess, No smell, runs every time as long as you charge it. The 503 
Model is under 30 lbs I think if you are concerned about weight.  Also depends 
on which battery you get.  More money up front but a lot less hassle in the 
long run I expect (new this year for me).
Nathan
S/V Wisper

On May 30, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
 wrote:



I actually had one for years. NO WAY would I even think about getting near one 
again. To stat with, the 10:1 mix of gas and 30 weight motor oil made a nasty 
mess and it was famous for not starting at random times.

Joe

Coquina

On 5/30/2020 7:16 PM, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List wrote:
Humm...  :-)

From their website ( "its time" actually is 1931 ) :

For its time the original engine was very advanced, a good proportion of the 
original engines are still running and parts are generally still available to 
keep them that way - a truly unique engine, a magnificent piece of British 
engineering and ingenuity.

Sylvain ( with an A4  :-)  )


Le samedi 30 mai 2020 19 h 05 min 25 s HAE, James Hesketh via CnC-List 
 a écrit :




I've just recently been offered a 5hp (with clutch) short-shaft British Seagull.

The price is right -- free -- but, but, but, ???

Jim Hesketh
C 26 Whisper
Miami, FL



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Re: Stus-List Outboard motor for dinghy

2020-05-31 Thread Nathan Post via CnC-List
Consider replacing with an electric. I got a Torqueedo 1103S for my dinghy (9ft 
Zodiac rib). The motor with battery is around 38 lbs but disassembles and the 
battery can be installed after you put the motor on the boat. Quiet, no fuel, 
no mess, No smell, runs every time as long as you charge it. The 503 Model is 
under 30 lbs I think if you are concerned about weight.  Also depends on which 
battery you get.  More money up front but a lot less hassle in the long run I 
expect (new this year for me). 
Nathan
S/V Wisper

> On May 30, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I actually had one for years. NO WAY would I even think about getting near 
> one again. To stat with, the 10:1 mix of gas and 30 weight motor oil made a 
> nasty mess and it was famous for not starting at random times.
> 
> Joe
> 
> Coquina
> 
> On 5/30/2020 7:16 PM, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List wrote:
>> Humm...  :-)
>> 
>> From their website ( "its time" actually is 1931 ) :
>> 
>> For its time the original engine was very advanced, a good proportion of the 
>> original engines are still running and parts are generally still available 
>> to keep them that way - a truly unique engine, a magnificent piece of 
>> British engineering and ingenuity.
>> 
>> Sylvain ( with an A4  :-)  )
>> 
>> 
>> Le samedi 30 mai 2020 19 h 05 min 25 s HAE, James Hesketh via CnC-List 
>>  a écrit :
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I've just recently been offered a 5hp (with clutch) short-shaft British 
>> Seagull. 
>> 
>> The price is right -- free -- but, but, but, ???
>> 
>> Jim Hesketh
>> C 26 Whisper
>> Miami, FL
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Stus-List Outboard Motor for Dinghy

2020-05-30 Thread Daniel Sheer via CnC-List
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I removed and cleaned the carb on our mercury 2.5 / 4 stroke. It runs and idles 
fine but will only rev about half way. I bought a rebuild kit and installed. 
Same. Ordered new carb. 
I think all the small engines are Chinese. And a lot are the same except 
badging and plastic. Like Home Depot lawn tractors. 
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I've just recently been offered a 5hp (with clutch) short-shaft British
Seagull.

The price is right -- free -- but, but, but, ???

Jim Hesketh
C 26 Whisper
Miami, FL
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 Humm...? :-)
>From their website ( "its time" actually is 1931 ) :
For its time the original engine was very advanced, a good proportion of the 
original engines are still running and parts are generally still available to 
keep them that way - a truly unique engine, a magnificent piece of British 
engineering and ingenuity.
Sylvain ( with an A4? :-)? )

    Le samedi 30 mai 2020 19 h 05 min 25 s HAE, James Hesketh via CnC-List 
 a ?crit :  
 
 

I've just recently been offered a 5hp (with clutch) short-shaft British 
Seagull. 

The price is right -- free -- but, but, but, ???
Jim HeskethC 26 WhisperMiami, FL


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WAY too much!

Joe

Coquina

On 5/30/2020 7:04 PM, James Hesketh via CnC-List wrote:
>
>
> I've just recently been offered a 5hp (with clutch) short-shaft 
> British Seagull.
>
> The price is right -- free -- but, but, but, ???
>
> Jim Hesketh
> C 26 Whisper
> Miami, FL
>
>
>
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I actually had one for years. NO WAY would I even think about getting 
near one again. To stat with, the 10:1 mix of gas and 30 weight motor 
oil made a nasty mess and it was famous for not starting at random times.

Joe

Coquina

On 5/30/2020 7

Re: Stus-List Outboard motor for dinghy

2020-05-30 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
I actually had one for years. NO WAY would I even think about getting 
near one again. To stat with, the 10:1 mix of gas and 30 weight motor 
oil made a nasty mess and it was famous for not starting at random times.


Joe

Coquina

On 5/30/2020 7:16 PM, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List wrote:

Humm...  :-)

From their website ( "its time" actually is 1931 ) :

For its time the original engine was very advanced, a good proportion 
of the original engines are still running and parts are generally 
still available to keep them that way - a truly unique engine, a 
magnificent piece of British engineering and ingenuity.


Sylvain ( with an A4 :-)  )


Le samedi 30 mai 2020 19 h 05 min 25 s HAE, James Hesketh via CnC-List 
 a écrit :





I've just recently been offered a 5hp (with clutch) short-shaft 
British Seagull.


The price is right -- free -- but, but, but, ???

Jim Hesketh
C 26 Whisper
Miami, FL



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Re: Stus-List Outboard motor for dinghy

2020-05-30 Thread Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List
 Humm...  :-)
>From their website ( "its time" actually is 1931 ) :
For its time the original engine was very advanced, a good proportion of the 
original engines are still running and parts are generally still available to 
keep them that way - a truly unique engine, a magnificent piece of British 
engineering and ingenuity.
Sylvain ( with an A4  :-)  )

Le samedi 30 mai 2020 19 h 05 min 25 s HAE, James Hesketh via CnC-List 
 a écrit :  
 
 

I've just recently been offered a 5hp (with clutch) short-shaft British 
Seagull. 

The price is right -- free -- but, but, but, ???
Jim HeskethC 26 WhisperMiami, FL


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Re: Stus-List Outboard motor for dinghy

2020-05-30 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List

WAY too much!

Joe

Coquina

On 5/30/2020 7:04 PM, James Hesketh via CnC-List wrote:



I've just recently been offered a 5hp (with clutch) short-shaft 
British Seagull.


The price is right -- free -- but, but, but, ???

Jim Hesketh
C 26 Whisper
Miami, FL



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2020-05-30 Thread James Hesketh via CnC-List
I've just recently been offered a 5hp (with clutch) short-shaft British
Seagull.

The price is right -- free -- but, but, but, ???

Jim Hesketh
C 26 Whisper
Miami, FL
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2020-05-30 Thread JP Mail via CnC-List
I removed and cleaned the carb on our mercury 2.5 / 4 stroke. It runs and idles 
fine but will only rev about half way. I bought a rebuild kit and installed. 
Same. Ordered new carb. 
I think all the small engines are Chinese. And a lot are the same except 
badging and plastic. Like Home Depot lawn tractors. 
Jon

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2020-05-30 Thread Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List
 I have an old Johnson 3.3 ( 1995 made in Japan ) and the only issue I've had 
with it was the main jet getting clogged ( very small jet, blocks easily ), 
Once I started puttinf Fule stabilizer in the gaz the problem went away ( took 
as little à 3-4 weeks without use to get clogged ).
An easy test to know if it is the fuel supply, you can make sure the plug is 
clean, then squirt about half a teaspoon of mixed gas  in the engine, if it 
starts and run for a few seconds then investigate the fuel supply.
I used same test for my A4 a few times ( pour a little gas through 2 or 3 of 
the spark plus holes, plugs back and start it.
Sylvain C

Le samedi 30 mai 2020 12 h 21 min 40 s HAE, David Knecht via CnC-List 
 a écrit :  
 
 I rebuilt the carburetor of my Suzuki 2.5 engine last winter and it seemed 
fine for a few runs and then quit completely the other day and won’t start.  I 
have read stories of people cleaning the carburetor 5-6 times before they got 
these working again when there are problems.  I probably should have put in a 
fuel filter as some posters recommend, but did not.  Anyway, I am considering 
replacing the carburetor, buying a new engine or both.  It is a long row, and 
while good exercise, I would not want to do it against wind and tide.  Although 
cheap and plastic, the Suzuki is the lightest on the market (30 lb) and while I 
have had some problems, it has lasted nearly 10 years and been pretty reliable. 
 Arguing for fixing or replacing with same is that I now know the engine really 
well, so can probably keep the next one in better shape for longer. What 
trashed this one was a water pump issue I did not notice that overheated the 
engine and probably warped the cylinder 5 years ago. The only engine close in 
terms of weight are the Honda and the Yamaha.  The Honda is really noisy and 
really got trashed in reviews as not reliable.  Some people hate the 
centrifugal clutch as well.  I can find nothing about the Yamaha in terms of 
people’s experience with it and it is hard to find for sale.  It is about 6 
pounds heavier than the Suzuki, but at least it is not 10-12 pounds heavier as 
most (Tohatsu, etc.) are.Then I came across a bunch of small engines on Amazon 
that I assume are Chinese imports.  They are only about 20 pounds (vs. 30 for 
the Suzuki) and less than half the price.  I have never seen one on a boat in 
my area.Any advice from the group?  Thanks- Dave
S/V Aries1990 C 34+New London, CT

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2020-05-30 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
Before doing anything else, try using engine starting fluid. I had
difficulty starting my lawn mower after it sat for nine months. It started
right up, and has worked fine ever since.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 9:21 AM David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I rebuilt the carburetor of my Suzuki 2.5 engine last winter and it seemed
> fine for a few runs and then quit completely the other day and won’t
> start.  I have read stories of people cleaning the carburetor 5-6 times
> before they got these working again when there are problems.  I probably
> should have put in a fuel filter as some posters recommend, but did not.
> Anyway, I am considering replacing the carburetor, buying a new engine or
> both.  It is a long row, and while good exercise, I would not want to do it
> against wind and tide.  Although cheap and plastic, the Suzuki is the
> lightest on the market (30 lb) and while I have had some problems, it has
> lasted nearly 10 years and been pretty reliable.  Arguing for fixing or
> replacing with same is that I now know the engine really well, so can
> probably keep the next one in better shape for longer. What trashed this
> one was a water pump issue I did not notice that overheated the engine and
> probably warped the cylinder 5 years ago.
>
> The only engine close in terms of weight are the Honda and the Yamaha.
> The Honda is really noisy and really got trashed in reviews as not
> reliable.  Some people hate the centrifugal clutch as well.  I can find
> nothing about the Yamaha in terms of people’s experience with it and it is
> hard to find for sale.  It is about 6 pounds heavier than the Suzuki, but
> at least it is not 10-12 pounds heavier as most (Tohatsu, etc.) are.
> Then I came across a bunch of small engines on Amazon that I assume are
> Chinese imports.  They are only about 20 pounds (vs. 30 for the Suzuki) and
> less than half the price.  I have never seen one on a boat in my area.
> Any advice from the group?  Thanks- Dave
>
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
>
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2020-05-30 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
Those small EPA approved carbs are about impossible to clean. I would 
suggest getting a new carb and if you don't use a ton of dinghy gas, buy 
ethanol free gas from somewhere. I fill a gas can with 100 octane from 
the airport for my lawnmower and have no issues at all with it :)


Failing that, put SeaFoam in the gas.

I would NOT get a Chinese knockoff engine. Craigslist will sooner or 
later come up with a little 2 or 3 HP two-stroke you can pick up with 2 
fingers.


Joe

Coquina

On 5/30/2020 12:20 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List wrote:
I rebuilt the carburetor of my Suzuki 2.5 engine last winter and it 
seemed fine for a few runs and then quit completely the other day and 
won’t start.  I have read stories of people cleaning the carburetor 
5-6 times before they got these working again when there are problems. 
 I probably should have put in a fuel filter as some posters 
recommend, but did not.  Anyway, I am considering replacing the 
carburetor, buying a new engine or both.  It is a long row, and while 
good exercise, I would not want to do it against wind and tide. 
 Although cheap and plastic, the Suzuki is the lightest on the market 
(30 lb) and while I have had some problems, it has lasted nearly 10 
years and been pretty reliable.  Arguing for fixing or replacing with 
same is that I now know the engine really well, so can probably keep 
the next one in better shape for longer. What trashed this one was a 
water pump issue I did not notice that overheated the engine and 
probably warped the cylinder 5 years ago.
The only engine close in terms of weight are the Honda and the Yamaha. 
 The Honda is really noisy and really got trashed in reviews as not 
reliable.  Some people hate the centrifugal clutch as well.  I can 
find nothing about the Yamaha in terms of people’s experience with it 
and it is hard to find for sale.  It is about 6 pounds heavier than 
the Suzuki, but at least it is not 10-12 pounds heavier as most 
(Tohatsu, etc.) are.
Then I came across a bunch of small engines on Amazon that I assume 
are Chinese imports.  They are only about 20 pounds (vs. 30 for the 
Suzuki) and less than half the price.  I have never seen one on a boat 
in my area.

Any advice from the group?  Thanks- Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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2020-05-30 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I rebuilt the carburetor of my Suzuki 2.5 engine last winter and it seemed fine 
for a few runs and then quit completely the other day and won’t start.  I have 
read stories of people cleaning the carburetor 5-6 times before they got these 
working again when there are problems.  I probably should have put in a fuel 
filter as some posters recommend, but did not.  Anyway, I am considering 
replacing the carburetor, buying a new engine or both.  It is a long row, and 
while good exercise, I would not want to do it against wind and tide.  Although 
cheap and plastic, the Suzuki is the lightest on the market (30 lb) and while I 
have had some problems, it has lasted nearly 10 years and been pretty reliable. 
 Arguing for fixing or replacing with same is that I now know the engine really 
well, so can probably keep the next one in better shape for longer. What 
trashed this one was a water pump issue I did not notice that overheated the 
engine and probably warped the cylinder 5 years ago.
 
The only engine close in terms of weight are the Honda and the Yamaha.  The 
Honda is really noisy and really got trashed in reviews as not reliable.  Some 
people hate the centrifugal clutch as well.  I can find nothing about the 
Yamaha in terms of people’s experience with it and it is hard to find for sale. 
 It is about 6 pounds heavier than the Suzuki, but at least it is not 10-12 
pounds heavier as most (Tohatsu, etc.) are.
Then I came across a bunch of small engines on Amazon that I assume are Chinese 
imports.  They are only about 20 pounds (vs. 30 for the Suzuki) and less than 
half the price.  I have never seen one on a boat in my area.
Any advice from the group?  Thanks- Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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