Re: Stus-List Overheating mystery

2017-08-17 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
Steaming exhaust is more or less visible based on lighting, atmospheric
temperature and humidity, and raw water inlet temperature.  There is no
particular guide as to when you may see it.  While most engines have
thermostats which control fresh water temperature, some engines also have
thermostats which modulate the temperature of the raw water.  Typically
this applies to raw water cooled engines.  As such you may not see water
discharge until the engine is up to temperature.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Aug 16, 2017 11:36 PM, "Rick Rohwer via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> I sucked a sardine into the raw water intake in Powell River.  I idled
> back to P R worked from the pump backwards, and there he was with a steely
> gaze halfway up the through hull.  If he would have extracted himself first
> I would still be looking for answers!
> It does bring up a question that has been bugging me: if someone's exhaust
> is seriously steaming is it always an issue? and should I mention it to
> them?
> I know I would appreciate knowing, but some folks maybe not!  There are
> several commercial vessels leaving Anacortes that really have a cloud
> behind them!
>
> Rick Rohwer
> Paikea 37+
>
>
>
> > On Aug 15, 2017, at 17:43, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> wrote:
> >
> > Buddy of mine had a similar issue.  Sucked a plastic bag against the
> intake.  When he turned the engine off and hoisted sails, it detached and
> floated off,  He saw it.  Re-cranked the engine and it ran fine.
> >
> > Dennis C.
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Re: Stus-List Overheating mystery

2017-08-16 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List 
I sucked a sardine into the raw water intake in Powell River.  I idled back to 
P R worked from the pump backwards, and there he was with a steely gaze halfway 
up the through hull.  If he would have extracted himself first I would still be 
looking for answers!
It does bring up a question that has been bugging me: if someone's exhaust is 
seriously steaming is it always an issue? and should I mention it to them? 
I know I would appreciate knowing, but some folks maybe not!  There are several 
commercial vessels leaving Anacortes that really have a cloud behind them!

Rick Rohwer 
Paikea 37+



> On Aug 15, 2017, at 17:43, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Buddy of mine had a similar issue.  Sucked a plastic bag against the intake.  
> When he turned the engine off and hoisted sails, it detached and floated off, 
>  He saw it.  Re-cranked the engine and it ran fine.
> 
> Dennis C.
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Re: Stus-List Overheating mystery

2017-08-15 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Buddy of mine had a similar issue.  Sucked a plastic bag against the
intake.  When he turned the engine off and hoisted sails, it detached and
floated off,  He saw it.  Re-cranked the engine and it ran fine.

Dennis C.
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Re: Stus-List Overheating mystery

2017-08-15 Thread svpegasus38 via CnC-List 
I have picked up vegatvegetation and other  stuff that plugged the raw water 
intake. Only to fall away after engine is shut down. When this happens I pull 
the raw water hose at the thru hull, and check for water flow. Dinghy pump 
works great to back flush thru hull. 


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 Original message From: Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
 Date: 8/15/17  09:40  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Tom Buscaglia  Subject: Stus-List 
Overheating mystery 
Yesterday as we were pulling out of an overnight at Otter Bay and had an 
overheating issue.  Steam out the exhaust and that alarm thing. We drifted 
around with Lynn on watch while I checked the impeller, intake and belts.  But 
no luck.  So, we called vessel assist ( if you cruise and do not have Boat US 
tow insurance you should).
We hauled up the sails and headed for Van Isle and the tow boat found us just 
as the wind died.
I call ahead to Stew at U.K. and he recommended a Yanmar mechanic, Ben, who was 
able to get down and check thing out once we landed.  Absolutely nothing wrong 
with the cooling system.  It was all just fine.  He did find a few items that 
I'll need to address, like a seized loose mount, but the raw water system was 
clear and flushing great.
This is the second time I have had an overheating issue that is appeared 
without explanation.  Anyone else have this sort of thing happen?
Maybe Alera just wanted to sail and was letting us know that she would not 
motor until we did...oh well, on to Victoria.
Tom BuscagliaS/V Alera1990 C&C 37+/40Vashon WAP 206.463.9200C 305.409.3660

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall
  (Matthew L. Wolford)
   2. Re:  GENCO canvas near Toronto (Tim Sippel)
   3. Re:  Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall
  (Frederick G Street)
   4. Re:  Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall (Paul Fountain)


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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 08:21:28 -0400
From: "Matthew L. Wolford" 
To: 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall
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Question for Hank:

    Where was the ?custom shop??  I have a ?42 Custom,? which is more or less a 
sistership of the first Baltic 42, and I was told that only six were built in 
the ?custom shop.?

From: henry evans via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 8:51 PM
To: Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
Cc: henry evans 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall

Obviously, the stern of the LF-38 is different as is the rig and keel.  The 
basic hull shape is the same as the 38-2.

If memory serves, all the 38's were built at NOTL and all the Landfalls at RI.

Hank Evans


On Monday, August 14, 2017, 6:56:44 PM CDT, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
 wrote:


According to sailboat data online "
The LANDFALL 38 shares the same hull design as the C&C 38-2 but with a 
shallower keel, shorter rig and entirely different interior. Built at C&C's 
Rhode Island (USA) plant."   Jerry




-Original Message-
From: john wright via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: john wright 
Sent: Mon, Aug 14, 2017 7:52 pm
Subject: Stus-List Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall

Trying to resolve a friendly dispute. Are the 38 and the Landfall 38 from the 
same mold?

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Re: Stus-List Overheating mystery

2017-08-15 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
Tom,

I’ve had it happen twice, with two different causes. 

The last time it happened, the cause was a need for more fluid in the 
antifreeze system. A half bottle of bottled water did the trick. 

The first time, I was told that I sucked in a jellyfish, which temporarily 
clogged the system. Once the engine was off, it either dropped out or broke 
apart enough that the next time I ran it, all was fine. 

I’m no mechanic and, like you, my solution to engine problems is usually “get 
the jib out”
 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 









> On Aug 15, 2017, at 12:40 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yesterday as we were pulling out of an overnight at Otter Bay and had an 
> overheating issue.  Steam out the exhaust and that alarm thing. We drifted 
> around with Lynn on watch while I checked the impeller, intake and belts.  
> But no luck.  So, we called vessel assist ( if you cruise and do not have 
> Boat US tow insurance you should).
> 
> We hauled up the sails and headed for Van Isle and the tow boat found us just 
> as the wind died.
> 
> I call ahead to Stew at U.K. and he recommended a Yanmar mechanic, Ben, who 
> was able to get down and check thing out once we landed.  Absolutely nothing 
> wrong with the cooling system.  It was all just fine.  He did find a few 
> items that I'll need to address, like a seized loose mount, but the raw water 
> system was clear and flushing great.
> 
> This is the second time I have had an overheating issue that is appeared 
> without explanation.  Anyone else have this sort of thing happen?
> 
> Maybe Alera just wanted to sail and was letting us know that she would not 
> motor until we did...oh well, on to Victoria.
> 
> Tom Buscaglia
> S/V Alera
> 1990 C&C 37+/40
> Vashon WA
> P 206.463.9200
> C 305.409.3660
> 
> 
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>>   2. Re:  GENCO canvas near Toronto (Tim Sippel)
>>   3. Re:  Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall
>>  (Frederick G Street)
>>   4. Re:  Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall (Paul Fountain)
>> 
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 08:21:28 -0400
>> From: "Matthew L. Wolford" mailto:wolf...@erie.net>>
>> To: mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall
>> Message-ID: 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Question for Hank:
>> 
>>Where was the ?custom shop??  I have a ?42 Custom,? which is more or less 
>> a sistership of the first Baltic 42, and I was told that only six were built 
>> in the ?custom shop.?
>> 
>> From: henry evans via CnC-List 
>> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 8:51 PM
>> To: Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
>> Cc: henry evans 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall
>> 
>> Obviously, the stern of the LF-38 is different as is the rig and keel.  The 
>> basic hull shape is the same as the 38-2.
>> 
>> If memory serves, all the 38's were built at NOTL and all the Landfalls at 
>> RI.
>> 
>> Hank Evans
>> 
>> 
>> On Monday, August 14, 2017, 6:56:44 PM CDT, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> According to sailboat data online "
>> The LANDFALL 38 shares the same hull design as the C&C 38-2 but with a 
>> shallower keel, shorter rig and entirely different interior. Built at C&C's 
>> Rhode Island (USA) plant."   Jerry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: john wright via CnC-List > >
>> To: cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
>> Cc: john wright > >
>> Sent: Mon, Aug 14, 2017 7:52 pm
>> Subject: Stus-List Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall
>> 
>> Trying to resolve a friendly dispute. Are the 38 and the Landfall 38 from 
>> the same mold?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> ___
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Overheating mystery

2017-08-15 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
Is the coolant circulating? Is the thermostat opening? Did you check and make 
sure there is raw water flow at the mixing elbow? Did you blow through the raw 
water intake to make sure there is nothing over the through hull?

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Aug 15, 2017, at 12:40, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Yesterday as we were pulling out of an overnight at Otter Bay and had an 
> overheating issue.  Steam out the exhaust and that alarm thing. We drifted 
> around with Lynn on watch while I checked the impeller, intake and belts.  
> But no luck.  So, we called vessel assist ( if you cruise and do not have 
> Boat US tow insurance you should).
> 
> We hauled up the sails and headed for Van Isle and the tow boat found us just 
> as the wind died.
> 
> I call ahead to Stew at U.K. and he recommended a Yanmar mechanic, Ben, who 
> was able to get down and check thing out once we landed.  Absolutely nothing 
> wrong with the cooling system.  It was all just fine.  He did find a few 
> items that I'll need to address, like a seized loose mount, but the raw water 
> system was clear and flushing great.
> 
> This is the second time I have had an overheating issue that is appeared 
> without explanation.  Anyone else have this sort of thing happen?
> 
> Maybe Alera just wanted to sail and was letting us know that she would not 
> motor until we did...oh well, on to Victoria.
> 
> Tom Buscaglia
> S/V Alera
> 1990 C&C 37+/40
> Vashon WA
> P 206.463.9200
> C 305.409.3660
> 
> 
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>>   1. Re:  Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall
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>>   2. Re:  GENCO canvas near Toronto (Tim Sippel)
>>   3. Re:  Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall
>>  (Frederick G Street)
>>   4. Re:  Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall (Paul Fountain)
>> 
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>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 08:21:28 -0400
>> From: "Matthew L. Wolford" 
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall
>> Message-ID: 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Question for Hank:
>> 
>>Where was the ?custom shop??  I have a ?42 Custom,? which is more or less 
>> a sistership of the first Baltic 42, and I was told that only six were built 
>> in the ?custom shop.?
>> 
>> From: henry evans via CnC-List 
>> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 8:51 PM
>> To: Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
>> Cc: henry evans 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall
>> 
>> Obviously, the stern of the LF-38 is different as is the rig and keel.  The 
>> basic hull shape is the same as the 38-2.
>> 
>> If memory serves, all the 38's were built at NOTL and all the Landfalls at 
>> RI.
>> 
>> Hank Evans
>> 
>> 
>> On Monday, August 14, 2017, 6:56:44 PM CDT, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> According to sailboat data online "
>> The LANDFALL 38 shares the same hull design as the C&C 38-2 but with a 
>> shallower keel, shorter rig and entirely different interior. Built at C&C's 
>> Rhode Island (USA) plant."   Jerry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: john wright via CnC-List 
>> To: cnc-list 
>> Cc: john wright 
>> Sent: Mon, Aug 14, 2017 7:52 pm
>> Subject: Stus-List Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall
>> 
>> Trying to resolve a friendly dispute. Are the 38 and the Landfall 38 from 
>> the same mold?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> ___
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Stus-List Overheating mystery

2017-08-15 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
Yesterday as we were pulling out of an overnight at Otter Bay and had an 
overheating issue.  Steam out the exhaust and that alarm thing. We drifted 
around with Lynn on watch while I checked the impeller, intake and belts.  But 
no luck.  So, we called vessel assist ( if you cruise and do not have Boat US 
tow insurance you should).

We hauled up the sails and headed for Van Isle and the tow boat found us just 
as the wind died.

I call ahead to Stew at U.K. and he recommended a Yanmar mechanic, Ben, who was 
able to get down and check thing out once we landed.  Absolutely nothing wrong 
with the cooling system.  It was all just fine.  He did find a few items that 
I'll need to address, like a seized loose mount, but the raw water system was 
clear and flushing great.

This is the second time I have had an overheating issue that is appeared 
without explanation.  Anyone else have this sort of thing happen?

Maybe Alera just wanted to sail and was letting us know that she would not 
motor until we did...oh well, on to Victoria.

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera
1990 C&C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


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>   1. Re:  Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall
>  (Matthew L. Wolford)
>   2. Re:  GENCO canvas near Toronto (Tim Sippel)
>   3. Re:  Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall
>  (Frederick G Street)
>   4. Re:  Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall (Paul Fountain)
> 
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> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 08:21:28 -0400
> From: "Matthew L. Wolford" 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Question for Hank:
> 
>Where was the ?custom shop??  I have a ?42 Custom,? which is more or less 
> a sistership of the first Baltic 42, and I was told that only six were built 
> in the ?custom shop.?
> 
> From: henry evans via CnC-List 
> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 8:51 PM
> To: Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
> Cc: henry evans 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall
> 
> Obviously, the stern of the LF-38 is different as is the rig and keel.  The 
> basic hull shape is the same as the 38-2.
> 
> If memory serves, all the 38's were built at NOTL and all the Landfalls at RI.
> 
> Hank Evans
> 
> 
> On Monday, August 14, 2017, 6:56:44 PM CDT, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> According to sailboat data online "
> The LANDFALL 38 shares the same hull design as the C&C 38-2 but with a 
> shallower keel, shorter rig and entirely different interior. Built at C&C's 
> Rhode Island (USA) plant."   Jerry
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: john wright via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list 
> Cc: john wright 
> Sent: Mon, Aug 14, 2017 7:52 pm
> Subject: Stus-List Design question on the 38 vs the 38 landfall
> 
> Trying to resolve a friendly dispute. Are the 38 and the Landfall 38 from the 
> same mold?
> 
> Thanks
> ___
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