Re: Stus-List Propane hose

[T power via CnC-List]

Hi Bob and Fred, Thanks for the info, I never even thought about condensation 
in the locker. I have a 10 LB steel tank, I'm thinking this will be a problem, 
may have to switch to Aluminum.

Thanks for the info on the solenoid, I'm going to look for one. Great tip.

Cheers,

Tom Power<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB

From: CnC-List  on behalf of Robert Boyer via 
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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 12:46 PM
To: Frederick G Street
Cc: Robert Boyer; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Propane hose

Yes, I forgot that it was also a requirement.  Marinetics is the name of the 
solenoid manufacturer that uses aluminum and stainless steel for construction.  
It costs more than Trident but well worth it in my opinion.

Bob

Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days (1983 C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)
Blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com<http://dainyrays.blogspot.com>
Email: dainyr...@icloud.com<mailto:dainyr...@icloud.com>
Annapolis, MD
(Presently in Charleston SC for the winter)

On Jan 10, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Frederick G Street 
mailto:f...@postaudio.net>> wrote:

Bob — actually, using two separate hoses is a requirement; it’s not safe to 
have any “taps” or tees outside of the propane locker, so all hoses must split 
after the solenoid in the locker and be continuous runs to the end point.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Jan 9, 2019, at 10:15 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Personally, I would use two separate hoses for the devices, both led from the 
solenoid.  The Trident solenoid is cheap and rusts quickly—I prefer the made by 
(I can’t think of the name right now) but it is made of aluminum and stainless 
steel.  There is a lot of condensation that is created in a propane locker—this 
enables the heavy rusting.

I also really like the propane controls with the sensor(s) and alarms.  If you 
need more info, contact me off-list.

Bob

Bob Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
(Presently in Charleston SC for the winter)
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com<http://dainyrays.blogspot.com/>
email: dainyr...@icloud.com<mailto:dainyr...@icloud.com>

On Jan 9, 2019, at 1:22 PM, T power via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Hi Everyone, I have a propane question. I'm installing a Dickinson 
Mediterranean stove with oven and a Dickinson P9000 propane heater.

The hose needed for the stove is 12 feet, the hose needed for the heater is 21 
feet.

My question is will I have enough flow (volume) if I use 1/4 id hose verses 3/8 
id hose. The regulator I plan to use is a two stage Trident P/N 1220-1411.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Tom Power<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB
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Re: Stus-List Propane hose

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

Yes, I forgot that it was also a requirement.  Marinetics is the name of the 
solenoid manufacturer that uses aluminum and stainless steel for construction.  
It costs more than Trident but well worth it in my opinion.

Bob

Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days (1983 C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)
Blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
Email: dainyr...@icloud.com
Annapolis, MD 
(Presently in Charleston SC for the winter)

> On Jan 10, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Frederick G Street  wrote:
> 
> Bob — actually, using two separate hoses is a requirement; it’s not safe to 
> have any “taps” or tees outside of the propane locker, so all hoses must 
> split after the solenoid in the locker and be continuous runs to the end 
> point.
> 
> — Fred
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
> 
>> On Jan 9, 2019, at 10:15 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Personally, I would use two separate hoses for the devices, both led from 
>> the solenoid.  The Trident solenoid is cheap and rusts quickly—I prefer the 
>> made by (I can’t think of the name right now) but it is made of aluminum and 
>> stainless steel.  There is a lot of condensation that is created in a 
>> propane locker—this enables the heavy rusting.
>> 
>> I also really like the propane controls with the sensor(s) and alarms.  If 
>> you need more info, contact me off-list.
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> Bob Boyer
>> s/v Rainy Days
>> C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
>> (Presently in Charleston SC for the winter)
>> blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
>> email: dainyr...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Jan 9, 2019, at 1:22 PM, T power via CnC-List  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Everyone, I have a propane question. I'm installing a Dickinson 
>>> Mediterranean stove with oven and a Dickinson P9000 propane heater. 
>>> 
>>> The hose needed for the stove is 12 feet, the hose needed for the heater is 
>>> 21 feet. 
>>> 
>>> My question is will I have enough flow (volume) if I use 1/4 id hose verses 
>>> 3/8 id hose. The regulator I plan to use is a two stage Trident P/N 
>>> 1220-1411.
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Tom Power
>>> Invictus
>>> C 30 MK1
>>> Fredericton, NB
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Re: Stus-List Propane hose

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Bob — actually, using two separate hoses is a requirement; it’s not safe to 
have any “taps” or tees outside of the propane locker, so all hoses must split 
after the solenoid in the locker and be continuous runs to the end point.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Jan 9, 2019, at 10:15 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Personally, I would use two separate hoses for the devices, both led from the 
> solenoid.  The Trident solenoid is cheap and rusts quickly—I prefer the made 
> by (I can’t think of the name right now) but it is made of aluminum and 
> stainless steel.  There is a lot of condensation that is created in a propane 
> locker—this enables the heavy rusting.
> 
> I also really like the propane controls with the sensor(s) and alarms.  If 
> you need more info, contact me off-list.
> 
> Bob
> 
> Bob Boyer
> s/v Rainy Days
> C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
> (Presently in Charleston SC for the winter)
> blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com 
> email: dainyr...@icloud.com 
> 
> On Jan 9, 2019, at 1:22 PM, T power via CnC-List  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Everyone, I have a propane question. I'm installing a Dickinson 
>> Mediterranean stove with oven and a Dickinson P9000 propane heater. 
>> 
>> The hose needed for the stove is 12 feet, the hose needed for the heater is 
>> 21 feet. 
>> 
>> My question is will I have enough flow (volume) if I use 1/4 id hose verses 
>> 3/8 id hose. The regulator I plan to use is a two stage Trident P/N 
>> 1220-1411.
>> 
>> Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Tom Power 
>> Invictus
>> C 30 MK1
>> Fredericton, NB
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Re: Stus-List Propane hose

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

Personally, I would use two separate hoses for the devices, both led from the 
solenoid.  The Trident solenoid is cheap and rusts quickly—I prefer the made by 
(I can’t think of the name right now) but it is made of aluminum and stainless 
steel.  There is a lot of condensation that is created in a propane locker—this 
enables the heavy rusting.

I also really like the propane controls with the sensor(s) and alarms.  If you 
need more info, contact me off-list.

Bob

Bob Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
(Presently in Charleston SC for the winter)
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
email: dainyr...@icloud.com

> On Jan 9, 2019, at 1:22 PM, T power via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone, I have a propane question. I'm installing a Dickinson 
> Mediterranean stove with oven and a Dickinson P9000 propane heater. 
> 
> The hose needed for the stove is 12 feet, the hose needed for the heater is 
> 21 feet. 
> 
> My question is will I have enough flow (volume) if I use 1/4 id hose verses 
> 3/8 id hose. The regulator I plan to use is a two stage Trident P/N 1220-1411.
> 
> Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Tom Power
> Invictus
> C 30 MK1
> Fredericton, NB
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Re: Stus-List Propane hose

[T power via CnC-List]

Awesome, thanks for the info Eric, much appreciated.

Cheers.

Tom Power<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB

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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 4:36 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: sender
Subject: Re: Stus-List Propane hose

The size of gas piping is based on an allowable pressure drop.  The regulator 
should be adjusted to deliver at 11" of water column (approx 0.4psi).  For 
propane appliances the allowable drop is 1".  The Canadian residential gas code 
I have has 3/8 copper tubing, this would be about 5/16 ID, so you'll have to 
extrapolate.  10' length allows 49 000 BTUs, 20' allows 34 000 BTUs and 30' 
allows 27 000 BTUs.

In other words, 2 separate 1/4" hoses manifolding at the regulator will work 
fine.

Eric

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 2:05 PM dwight veinot via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Good answer i agree quarter inch id should provide enough fuel to operate both 
simultaneously unless the outside temp is minus 10 or below
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 4:56 PM Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Tom — I had hoses made up when I added my Dickinson fireplace years ago; I’m 
pretty sure everything was 1/4” ID with 3/8” flare fittings.  I’ve got the 
usual three-burner range with over in the galley, in addition to the fireplace; 
no issues using them simultaneously.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Jan 9, 2019, at 2:24 PM, T power via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Thanks josh and Doug for you thoughts. The issue I'm running into, it is 
extremely hard to find 3/8" id hose in the proper length. I'm in the process of 
building the propane locker, my plan is to have vapor tight fittings for the 
hose and wiring for the solenoid, the hoses will be complete from the tank to 
the appliance.

I can basically get any length I want in 1/4" id with 3/8" Female Flare 
fittings, I'm just not sure there will be enough volume for the appliance.

 I ordered a hose for the stove, I thought it was 3/8" id but turned out to be 
1/4" id with 3/8" Female Flare fittings on each end.

I guess if the hose does not supply enough volume I can order "custom made" 
hoses (very pricey) and swap them out. Any holes drilled will be the same 
diameter due to the size of the fittings, just a bit of a PITA,


Tom Power<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB

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Cc: svrebeccaleah
Subject: Re: Stus-List Propane hose

Hi Tom,
This from West Marine.

Supply Hoses<https://www.westmarine.com/lpg-hose-fittings>

To carry the gas from the regulator to the stove or heater, use LPG supply hose 
of the correct length. Note that while these hoses are only carrying 0.5 psi, 
they have a 350 psi working pressure rating, so they are dramatically stronger 
than they have to be. Each supply hose should run continuously from inside the 
propane tank enclosure to the appliance: this is not a case where you can chain 
a bunch of fittings together because you ended up a little short on hose. Use a 
Vapor-Tight Straight-Thru fitting where the hose exits your propane locker. 
Supply hoses connect to the propane appliance using a 3/8" female flare swivel 
and connect to the solenoid with a 3/8" male NPT adapter.

Doug Mountjoy
Sv Rebecca Leah
LH39
Port Orchard YC wa.

 Original message 
From: T power via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 1/9/19 10:22 (GMT-08:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: T power mailto:sv_invic...@outlook.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Propane hose

Hi Everyone, I have a propane question. I'm installing a Dickinson 
Mediterranean stove with oven and a Dickinson P9000 propane heater.

The hose needed for the stove is 12 feet, the hose needed for the heater is 21 
feet.

My question is will I have enough flow (volume) if I use 1/4 id hose verses 3/8 
id hose. The regulator I plan to use is a two stage Trident P/N 1220-1411.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Tom Power<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB
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Re: Stus-List Propane hose

[sender via CnC-List]

The size of gas piping is based on an allowable pressure drop.  The
regulator should be adjusted to deliver at 11" of water column (approx
0.4psi).  For propane appliances the allowable drop is 1".  The Canadian
residential gas code I have has 3/8 copper tubing, this would be about 5/16
ID, so you'll have to extrapolate.  10' length allows 49 000 BTUs, 20'
allows 34 000 BTUs and 30' allows 27 000 BTUs.

In other words, 2 separate 1/4" hoses manifolding at the regulator will
work fine.

Eric

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 2:05 PM dwight veinot via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Good answer i agree quarter inch id should provide enough fuel to operate
> both simultaneously unless the outside temp is minus 10 or below
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 4:56 PM Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Tom — I had hoses made up when I added my Dickinson fireplace years ago;
>> I’m pretty sure everything was 1/4” ID with 3/8” flare fittings.  I’ve got
>> the usual three-burner range with over in the galley, in addition to the
>> fireplace; no issues using them simultaneously.
>>
>> — Fred
>>
>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>>
>> On Jan 9, 2019, at 2:24 PM, T power via CnC-List 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks josh and Doug for you thoughts. The issue I'm running into, it is
>> extremely hard to find 3/8" id hose in the proper length. I'm in the
>> process of building the propane locker, my plan is to have vapor tight
>> fittings for the hose and wiring for the solenoid, the hoses will be
>> complete from the tank to the appliance.
>>
>> I can basically get any length I want in 1/4" id with 3/8" Female Flare
>> fittings, I'm just not sure there will be enough volume for the appliance.
>>
>>  I ordered a hose for the stove, I thought it was 3/8" id but turned out
>> to be 1/4" id with 3/8" Female Flare fittings on each end.
>>
>> I guess if the hose does not supply enough volume I can order "custom
>> made" hoses (very pricey) and swap them out. Any holes drilled will be the
>> same diameter due to the size of the fittings, just a bit of a PITA,
>>
>>
>> Tom Power <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
>> Invictus
>> C 30 MK1
>> Fredericton, NB
>> --
>> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of
>> svrebeccaleah via CnC-List 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 9, 2019 4:06 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* svrebeccaleah
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Propane hose
>>
>> Hi Tom,
>> This from West Marine.
>>
>> Supply Hoses <https://www.westmarine.com/lpg-hose-fittings>
>>
>> To carry the gas from the regulator to the stove or heater, use LPG
>> supply hose of the correct length. Note that while these hoses are only
>> carrying 0.5 psi, they have a 350 psi working pressure rating, so they are
>> dramatically stronger than they have to be. Each supply hose should run
>> continuously from inside the propane tank enclosure to the appliance: this
>> is not a case where you can chain a bunch of fittings together because you
>> ended up a little short on hose. Use a Vapor-Tight Straight-Thru fitting
>> where the hose exits your propane locker. Supply hoses connect to the
>> propane appliance using a 3/8" female flare swivel and connect to the
>> solenoid with a 3/8" male NPT adapter.
>>
>> Doug Mountjoy
>> Sv Rebecca Leah
>> LH39
>> Port Orchard YC wa.
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: T power via CnC-List 
>> Date: 1/9/19 10:22 (GMT-08:00)
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: T power 
>> Subject: Stus-List Propane hose
>>
>> Hi Everyone, I have a propane question. I'm installing a Dickinson
>> Mediterranean stove with oven and a Dickinson P9000 propane heater.
>>
>> The hose needed for the stove is 12 feet, the hose needed for the heater
>> is 21 feet.
>>
>> My question is will I have enough flow (volume) if I use 1/4 id hose
>> verses 3/8 id hose. The regulator I plan to use is a two stage Trident P/N
>> 1220-1411.
>>
>> Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Tom Power <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
>> Invictus
>> C 30 MK1
>> Fredericton, NB
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Re: Stus-List Propane hose

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

Good answer i agree quarter inch id should provide enough fuel to operate
both simultaneously unless the outside temp is minus 10 or below
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 4:56 PM Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Tom — I had hoses made up when I added my Dickinson fireplace years ago;
> I’m pretty sure everything was 1/4” ID with 3/8” flare fittings.  I’ve got
> the usual three-burner range with over in the galley, in addition to the
> fireplace; no issues using them simultaneously.
>
> — Fred
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
> On Jan 9, 2019, at 2:24 PM, T power via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks josh and Doug for you thoughts. The issue I'm running into, it is
> extremely hard to find 3/8" id hose in the proper length. I'm in the
> process of building the propane locker, my plan is to have vapor tight
> fittings for the hose and wiring for the solenoid, the hoses will be
> complete from the tank to the appliance.
>
> I can basically get any length I want in 1/4" id with 3/8" Female Flare
> fittings, I'm just not sure there will be enough volume for the appliance.
>
>  I ordered a hose for the stove, I thought it was 3/8" id but turned out
> to be 1/4" id with 3/8" Female Flare fittings on each end.
>
> I guess if the hose does not supply enough volume I can order "custom
> made" hoses (very pricey) and swap them out. Any holes drilled will be the
> same diameter due to the size of the fittings, just a bit of a PITA,
>
>
> Tom Power <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
> Invictus
> C 30 MK1
> Fredericton, NB
> --
> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of
> svrebeccaleah via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 9, 2019 4:06 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* svrebeccaleah
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Propane hose
>
> Hi Tom,
> This from West Marine.
>
> Supply Hoses <https://www.westmarine.com/lpg-hose-fittings>
>
> To carry the gas from the regulator to the stove or heater, use LPG supply
> hose of the correct length. Note that while these hoses are only carrying
> 0.5 psi, they have a 350 psi working pressure rating, so they are
> dramatically stronger than they have to be. Each supply hose should run
> continuously from inside the propane tank enclosure to the appliance: this
> is not a case where you can chain a bunch of fittings together because you
> ended up a little short on hose. Use a Vapor-Tight Straight-Thru fitting
> where the hose exits your propane locker. Supply hoses connect to the
> propane appliance using a 3/8" female flare swivel and connect to the
> solenoid with a 3/8" male NPT adapter.
>
> Doug Mountjoy
> Sv Rebecca Leah
> LH39
> Port Orchard YC wa.
>
>  Original message 
> From: T power via CnC-List 
> Date: 1/9/19 10:22 (GMT-08:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: T power 
> Subject: Stus-List Propane hose
>
> Hi Everyone, I have a propane question. I'm installing a Dickinson
> Mediterranean stove with oven and a Dickinson P9000 propane heater.
>
> The hose needed for the stove is 12 feet, the hose needed for the heater
> is 21 feet.
>
> My question is will I have enough flow (volume) if I use 1/4 id hose
> verses 3/8 id hose. The regulator I plan to use is a two stage Trident P/N
> 1220-1411.
>
> Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Tom Power <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
> Invictus
> C 30 MK1
> Fredericton, NB
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Re: Stus-List Propane hose

[T power via CnC-List]

Fred,

Thanks so much for the insight, much appreciated. I feel pretty competent now.

Cheers

Tom Power<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB

From: CnC-List  on behalf of Frederick G Street 
via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 4:55 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street
Subject: Re: Stus-List Propane hose

Tom — I had hoses made up when I added my Dickinson fireplace years ago; I’m 
pretty sure everything was 1/4” ID with 3/8” flare fittings.  I’ve got the 
usual three-burner range with over in the galley, in addition to the fireplace; 
no issues using them simultaneously.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Jan 9, 2019, at 2:24 PM, T power via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Thanks josh and Doug for you thoughts. The issue I'm running into, it is 
extremely hard to find 3/8" id hose in the proper length. I'm in the process of 
building the propane locker, my plan is to have vapor tight fittings for the 
hose and wiring for the solenoid, the hoses will be complete from the tank to 
the appliance.

I can basically get any length I want in 1/4" id with 3/8" Female Flare 
fittings, I'm just not sure there will be enough volume for the appliance.

 I ordered a hose for the stove, I thought it was 3/8" id but turned out to be 
1/4" id with 3/8" Female Flare fittings on each end.

I guess if the hose does not supply enough volume I can order "custom made" 
hoses (very pricey) and swap them out. Any holes drilled will be the same 
diameter due to the size of the fittings, just a bit of a PITA,


Tom Power<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Propane hose

Hi Tom,
This from West Marine.

Supply Hoses<https://www.westmarine.com/lpg-hose-fittings>

To carry the gas from the regulator to the stove or heater, use LPG supply hose 
of the correct length. Note that while these hoses are only carrying 0.5 psi, 
they have a 350 psi working pressure rating, so they are dramatically stronger 
than they have to be. Each supply hose should run continuously from inside the 
propane tank enclosure to the appliance: this is not a case where you can chain 
a bunch of fittings together because you ended up a little short on hose. Use a 
Vapor-Tight Straight-Thru fitting where the hose exits your propane locker. 
Supply hoses connect to the propane appliance using a 3/8" female flare swivel 
and connect to the solenoid with a 3/8" male NPT adapter.

Doug Mountjoy
Sv Rebecca Leah
LH39
Port Orchard YC wa.

 Original message 
From: T power via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 1/9/19 10:22 (GMT-08:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: T power mailto:sv_invic...@outlook.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Propane hose

Hi Everyone, I have a propane question. I'm installing a Dickinson 
Mediterranean stove with oven and a Dickinson P9000 propane heater.

The hose needed for the stove is 12 feet, the hose needed for the heater is 21 
feet.

My question is will I have enough flow (volume) if I use 1/4 id hose verses 3/8 
id hose. The regulator I plan to use is a two stage Trident P/N 1220-1411.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Tom Power<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB
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Re: Stus-List Propane hose

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Tom — I had hoses made up when I added my Dickinson fireplace years ago; I’m 
pretty sure everything was 1/4” ID with 3/8” flare fittings.  I’ve got the 
usual three-burner range with over in the galley, in addition to the fireplace; 
no issues using them simultaneously.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Jan 9, 2019, at 2:24 PM, T power via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks josh and Doug for you thoughts. The issue I'm running into, it is 
> extremely hard to find 3/8" id hose in the proper length. I'm in the process 
> of building the propane locker, my plan is to have vapor tight fittings for 
> the hose and wiring for the solenoid, the hoses will be complete from the 
> tank to the appliance. 
> 
> I can basically get any length I want in 1/4" id with 3/8" Female Flare 
> fittings, I'm just not sure there will be enough volume for the appliance.
> 
>  I ordered a hose for the stove, I thought it was 3/8" id but turned out to 
> be 1/4" id with 3/8" Female Flare fittings on each end. 
> 
> I guess if the hose does not supply enough volume I can order "custom made" 
> hoses (very pricey) and swap them out. Any holes drilled will be the same 
> diameter due to the size of the fittings, just a bit of a PITA,
> 
> 
> Tom Power <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
> Invictus
> C 30 MK1
> Fredericton, NB
> From: CnC-List  <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> on behalf of svrebeccaleah via 
> CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 4:06 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: svrebeccaleah
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Propane hose
>  
> Hi Tom,
> This from West Marine. 
> 
> Supply Hoses <https://www.westmarine.com/lpg-hose-fittings>
> To carry the gas from the regulator to the stove or heater, use LPG supply 
> hose of the correct length. Note that while these hoses are only carrying 0.5 
> psi, they have a 350 psi working pressure rating, so they are dramatically 
> stronger than they have to be. Each supply hose should run continuously from 
> inside the propane tank enclosure to the appliance: this is not a case where 
> you can chain a bunch of fittings together because you ended up a little 
> short on hose. Use a Vapor-Tight Straight-Thru fitting where the hose exits 
> your propane locker. Supply hoses connect to the propane appliance using a 
> 3/8" female flare swivel and connect to the solenoid with a 3/8" male NPT 
> adapter.
> 
> 
> Doug Mountjoy 
> Sv Rebecca Leah 
> LH39
> Port Orchard YC wa.
> 
> ---- Original message ----
> From: T power via CnC-List  <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> 
> Date: 1/9/19 10:22 (GMT-08:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: T power mailto:sv_invic...@outlook.com>> 
> Subject: Stus-List Propane hose
> 
> Hi Everyone, I have a propane question. I'm installing a Dickinson 
> Mediterranean stove with oven and a Dickinson P9000 propane heater. 
> 
> The hose needed for the stove is 12 feet, the hose needed for the heater is 
> 21 feet. 
> 
> My question is will I have enough flow (volume) if I use 1/4 id hose verses 
> 3/8 id hose. The regulator I plan to use is a two stage Trident P/N 1220-1411.
> 
> Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Tom Power <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
> Invictus
> C 30 MK1
> Fredericton, NB
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Re: Stus-List Propane hose

[T power via CnC-List]

Thanks josh and Doug for you thoughts. The issue I'm running into, it is 
extremely hard to find 3/8" id hose in the proper length. I'm in the process of 
building the propane locker, my plan is to have vapor tight fittings for the 
hose and wiring for the solenoid, the hoses will be complete from the tank to 
the appliance.

I can basically get any length I want in 1/4" id with 3/8" Female Flare 
fittings, I'm just not sure there will be enough volume for the appliance.

 I ordered a hose for the stove, I thought it was 3/8" id but turned out to be 
1/4" id with 3/8" Female Flare fittings on each end.

I guess if the hose does not supply enough volume I can order "custom made" 
hoses (very pricey) and swap them out. Any holes drilled will be the same 
diameter due to the size of the fittings, just a bit of a PITA,


Tom Power<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB

From: CnC-List  on behalf of svrebeccaleah via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 4:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: svrebeccaleah
Subject: Re: Stus-List Propane hose

Hi Tom,
This from West Marine.

Supply Hoses<https://www.westmarine.com/lpg-hose-fittings>

To carry the gas from the regulator to the stove or heater, use LPG supply hose 
of the correct length. Note that while these hoses are only carrying 0.5 psi, 
they have a 350 psi working pressure rating, so they are dramatically stronger 
than they have to be. Each supply hose should run continuously from inside the 
propane tank enclosure to the appliance: this is not a case where you can chain 
a bunch of fittings together because you ended up a little short on hose. Use a 
Vapor-Tight Straight-Thru fitting where the hose exits your propane locker. 
Supply hoses connect to the propane appliance using a 3/8" female flare swivel 
and connect to the solenoid with a 3/8" male NPT adapter.

Doug Mountjoy
Sv Rebecca Leah
LH39
Port Orchard YC wa.

 Original message 
From: T power via CnC-List 
Date: 1/9/19 10:22 (GMT-08:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: T power 
Subject: Stus-List Propane hose

Hi Everyone, I have a propane question. I'm installing a Dickinson 
Mediterranean stove with oven and a Dickinson P9000 propane heater.

The hose needed for the stove is 12 feet, the hose needed for the heater is 21 
feet.

My question is will I have enough flow (volume) if I use 1/4 id hose verses 3/8 
id hose. The regulator I plan to use is a two stage Trident P/N 1220-1411.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Tom Power<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB
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Re: Stus-List Propane hose

[svrebeccaleah via CnC-List]

Hi Tom,This from West Marine. Supply HosesTo carry the gas from the regulator 
to the stove or heater, use LPG supply hose of the correct length. Note that 
while these hoses are only carrying 0.5 psi, they have a 350 psi working 
pressure rating, so they are dramatically stronger than they have to be. Each 
supply hose should run continuously from inside the propane tank enclosure to 
the appliance: this is not a case where you can chain a bunch of fittings 
together because you ended up a little short on hose. Use a Vapor-Tight 
Straight-Thru fitting where the hose exits your propane locker. Supply hoses 
connect to the propane appliance using a 3/8" female flare swivel and connect 
to the solenoid with a 3/8" male NPT adapter.Doug Mountjoy Sv Rebecca Leah 
LH39Port Orchard YC wa.
 Original message From: T power via CnC-List 
 Date: 1/9/19  10:22  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: T power  Subject: Stus-List 
Propane hose 

Hi Everyone, I have a propane question. I'm installing a Dickinson 
Mediterranean stove with oven and a Dickinson P9000 propane heater. 




The hose needed for the stove is 12 feet, the hose needed for the heater is 21 
feet. 




My question is will I have enough flow (volume) if I use 1/4 id hose verses 3/8 
id hose. The regulator I plan to use is a two stage Trident P/N 1220-1411.




Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.







Tom Power

Invictus

C 30 MK1

Fredericton, NB


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Re: Stus-List Propane hose

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I can't say for sure but I don't think you'll have a problem with 1/4".  I
lot of campers/trailers us 1/4 copper tubing for the distribution from the
tank.  Stoves, ovens, refrigerators, and heaters are all part of that
system.

 If you're making the connections/fittings I think a major consideration
will be finding the correct sizes.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 1:22 PM T power via CnC-List  Hi Everyone, I have a propane question. I'm installing a Dickinson
> Mediterranean stove with oven and a Dickinson P9000 propane heater.
>
> The hose needed for the stove is 12 feet, the hose needed for the heater
> is 21 feet.
>
> My question is will I have enough flow (volume) if I use 1/4 id hose
> verses 3/8 id hose. The regulator I plan to use is a two stage Trident P/N
> 1220-1411.
>
> Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Tom Power 
> Invictus
> C 30 MK1
> Fredericton, NB
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Stus-List Propane hose

[T power via CnC-List]

Hi Everyone, I have a propane question. I'm installing a Dickinson 
Mediterranean stove with oven and a Dickinson P9000 propane heater.

The hose needed for the stove is 12 feet, the hose needed for the heater is 21 
feet.

My question is will I have enough flow (volume) if I use 1/4 id hose verses 3/8 
id hose. The regulator I plan to use is a two stage Trident P/N 1220-1411.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Tom Power
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB
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