Stus-List Re: Boric Acid Powder

[Korbey Hunt via CnC-List]

Fall spider infestations are common in the Pacific NW.  I see them as a sign of 
the changing season.

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From: Dreuge via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 11:44:07 AM
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Subject: Stus-List Re: Boric Acid Powder

I had a problem with Rats in my shed.  I sprinkled some dehydrated ghost pepper 
flakes around and the problem was gone.I gave some of the same ghost pepper 
flakes to a colleague who had a rat that would visit his kitchen late at night. 
 He sprinkled the flakes behind the stove where he believed the rat(s) were 
getting in.  Problem also gone, but his eye watered for days when he went to 
the kitchen.


-
Paul E.
1981 C Landfall 38
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

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On Aug 31, 2021, at 3:21 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Peppermint oil does seem to keep the mice at bay in the house.  But one has to 
change it out fairly often.
Ron
Wild Cheri
C 30-1
STL


On Monday, August 30, 2021, 03:36:12 PM CDT, George Cone via CnC-List 
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To update you on the dryer sheets, around here people use them to stop mice 
moving in to their boats and all, well I was just in working on a snowmobile 
groomer and it was full of dryer sheets, and as I lifted the console to check 
on some wiring there was a family of 6 mice nestled in the dryer sheets! So 
better find something else to use.

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[Dreuge via CnC-List]

I had a problem with Rats in my shed.  I sprinkled some dehydrated ghost pepper 
flakes around and the problem was gone.I gave some of the same ghost pepper 
flakes to a colleague who had a rat that would visit his kitchen late at night. 
 He sprinkled the flakes behind the stove where he believed the rat(s) were 
getting in.  Problem also gone, but his eye watered for days when he went to 
the kitchen.


-
Paul E.
1981 C Landfall 38 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

> On Aug 31, 2021, at 3:21 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Peppermint oil does seem to keep the mice at bay in the house.  But one has 
> to change it out fairly often.
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> C 30-1
> STL
> 
> 
> On Monday, August 30, 2021, 03:36:12 PM CDT, George Cone via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> To update you on the dryer sheets, around here people use them to stop mice 
> moving in to their boats and all, well I was just in working on a snowmobile 
> groomer and it was full of dryer sheets, and as I lifted the console to check 
> on some wiring there was a family of 6 mice nestled in the dryer sheets! So 
> better find something else to use.
> 
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[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

 Peppermint oil does seem to keep the mice at bay in the house.  But one has to 
change it out fairly often.RonWild CheriC 30-1STL

On Monday, August 30, 2021, 03:36:12 PM CDT, George Cone via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 
To update you on the dryer sheets, around here people use them to stop mice 
moving in to their boats and all, well I was just in working on a snowmobile 
groomer and it was full of dryer sheets, and as I lifted the console to check 
on some wiring there was a family of 6 mice nestled in the dryer sheets! So 
better find something else to use.
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[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

 We had muddauber hotels on board and finally found that Irish Spring soap 
would drive them out.We rarely had spiders, and if so, usually only outside.  
After the daubers were gone, the spiders came inside in numbers.  Suddenly the 
daubers don't seem so bad.Equilibrium eh?  Everything is connected to 
everything else.RonWild CheriC 30-1STL

On Monday, August 30, 2021, 02:16:13 PM CDT, Stephen Kidd via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 Boric acid is very effective, but the spiders have to come into direct contact 
with it for it to work. I use it in the garden and it protects against all but 
squirrels and neglect. Spiders may be less likely to wander into it though. 
For backpacking, I spray permethrin on shoes/pants to knock out ticks and 
mosquitos. It stays around for multiple washings, so might be viable for 
docklines. It says it's effective against spiders. 
We've been using moth balls on board for the past couple of years. They keep 
the mud daubers and spiders in check. The mud daubers eat the spiders, but can 
scare people. I prefer them to spiders. There are both still aboard, but far 
fewer in number.
The moth ball smell hasn't been a problem, so I haven't tried any of the 
alternatives but am curious if others have had success with them. Peppermint 
oil sounds nice!
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[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Not a spider deterrent, but a mouse deterrent…

A friend (who has a crazy number of outboard motors) and has had huge issues 
with mice eating the wiring when in storage, swears by putting a piece of Irish 
Spring soap in each cowling…. says’s he’s never had an issue since. I’ll try 
that myself this fall!
Dean




> On Aug 30, 2021, at 6:11 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> You mentioned that you don’t want to use the spider spray, but this one 
> (Bug-Tek) is less toxic and does not hurt the environment that much. And it 
> is pretty effective. I use it to spray the dock lines - if they cannot get 
> through the lines, they have to swim to the boat or fly (I know some can fly 
> on their webs). So, the numbers are substantially reduced.
>  
> For the mice problem, we use cloves. It does not kill anything, but 
> apparently mice don’t like the smell. An added benefit is that the smell is 
> quite nice for most humans. We buy about 0.5 kg each fall and distribute them 
> around the boat (in small bags). When we had a cottage, we used another 1 kg 
> for the cottage. It either works or it is a great coincidence that since we 
> started using them, the mice went somewhere else.
>  
> Of course, YMMV
>  
> Marek
>  
>  
> From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 10:48 AM
> To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Cc: Bill Coleman mailto:colt...@gmail.com>>
> Subject: Stus-List Boric Acid Powder
>  
> Has anyone ever tried Boric Acid for spiders?
> We have gobs of them here on the lakes.
>  
> Practical Sailor just had some discussion on using this for Cockroaches, and 
> I see now, silverfish and water bugs – but I see no mention of spiders.
> I am trying to get away from spider spray, for obvious reasons, and this 
> looks like a much more friendly alternative, but if it won’t work, well then 
> . . . I guess back to the drawing board.
>  
> Bill Coleman
> Entrada, Erie, PA
>  
>  
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[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

You mentioned that you don’t want to use the spider spray, but this one 
(Bug-Tek) is less toxic and does not hurt the environment that much. And it is 
pretty effective. I use it to spray the dock lines - if they cannot get through 
the lines, they have to swim to the boat or fly (I know some can fly on their 
webs). So, the numbers are substantially reduced.

For the mice problem, we use cloves. It does not kill anything, but apparently 
mice don’t like the smell. An added benefit is that the smell is quite nice for 
most humans. We buy about 0.5 kg each fall and distribute them around the boat 
(in small bags). When we had a cottage, we used another 1 kg for the cottage. 
It either works or it is a great coincidence that since we started using them, 
the mice went somewhere else.

Of course, YMMV

Marek


From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 10:48 AM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Boric Acid Powder

Has anyone ever tried Boric Acid for spiders?
We have gobs of them here on the lakes.

Practical Sailor just had some discussion on using this for Cockroaches, and I 
see now, silverfish and water bugs – but I see no mention of spiders.
I am trying to get away from spider spray, for obvious reasons, and this looks 
like a much more friendly alternative, but if it won’t work, well then . . . I 
guess back to the drawing board.

Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie, PA


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[George Cone via CnC-List]

To update you on the dryer sheets, around here people use them to stop mice 
moving in to their boats and all, well I was just in working on a snowmobile 
groomer and it was full of dryer sheets, and as I lifted the console to check 
on some wiring there was a family of 6 mice nestled in the dryer sheets! So 
better find something else to use.
George Cone
Killington, vermont

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 4:12 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Boric Acid Powder

Thank you, I will also try the peppermint oil.
Practical Sailor also suggested Rosemary oil, mixed with vinegar, and squirt it 
on the dock lines, They said it won’t kill the spiders, but they don’t like it 
and won’t walk over it.  But I couldn’t find any at Walmart.

And yes, spiders kill bugs, and so do Purple Martins, and I am happy to have 
them both around doing what they do. Just so long as they don’t live and shit 
on my boat. Like bats, they do their job, then go back to their caves and 
Belfries.

I forgot about dryer sheets, I used to use those below, now I can’t remember if 
it was for the smell or spiders . . .

And Joe, nothing brings me more joy than throwing a spider in the water, and 
watching a deserving fish gobble him up!


Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie, PA



From: David Swensen [mailto:ka123dswense...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 12:20 PM
To: Stus-List
Cc: Bill Coleman
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boric Acid Powder

I do not know about using Boric Acid with spiders, but I know my brother is in 
Dunkirk, NY and they have mucho spiders there. He uses peppermint oil, and it 
seems to work pretty well. He dabs soaked cotton balls around the compalionway, 
hatches, and portholes, and I believe docklines.

David Swensen
Freya
35 MKIII
Beverly, MA

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 10:48 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Has anyone ever tried Boric Acid for spiders?
We have gobs of them here on the lakes.

Practical Sailor just had some discussion on using this for Cockroaches, and I 
see now, silverfish and water bugs – but I see no mention of spiders.
I am trying to get away from spider spray, for obvious reasons, and this looks 
like a much more friendly alternative, but if it won’t work, well then . . . I 
guess back to the drawing board.

Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie, PA


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[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Thank you, I will also try the peppermint oil.

Practical Sailor also suggested Rosemary oil, mixed with vinegar, and squirt it 
on the dock lines, They said it won’t kill the spiders, but they don’t like it 
and won’t walk over it.  But I couldn’t find any at Walmart. 

 

And yes, spiders kill bugs, and so do Purple Martins, and I am happy to have 
them both around doing what they do. Just so long as they don’t live and shit 
on my boat. Like bats, they do their job, then go back to their caves and 
Belfries. 

 

I forgot about dryer sheets, I used to use those below, now I can’t remember if 
it was for the smell or spiders . . .

 

And Joe, nothing brings me more joy than throwing a spider in the water, and 
watching a deserving fish gobble him up!

 

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

 

From: David Swensen [mailto:ka123dswense...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 12:20 PM
To: Stus-List
Cc: Bill Coleman
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boric Acid Powder

 

I do not know about using Boric Acid with spiders, but I know my brother is in 
Dunkirk, NY and they have mucho spiders there. He uses peppermint oil, and it 
seems to work pretty well. He dabs soaked cotton balls around the compalionway, 
hatches, and portholes, and I believe docklines. 

 

David Swensen

Freya

35 MKIII

Beverly, MA

 

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 10:48 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Has anyone ever tried Boric Acid for spiders?

We have gobs of them here on the lakes.

 

Practical Sailor just had some discussion on using this for Cockroaches, and I 
see now, silverfish and water bugs – but I see no mention of spiders.

I am trying to get away from spider spray, for obvious reasons, and this looks 
like a much more friendly alternative, but if it won’t work, well then . . . I 
guess back to the drawing board.

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

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[Stephen Kidd via CnC-List]

Boric acid is very effective, but the spiders have to come into direct
contact with it for it to work. I use it in the garden and it protects
against all but squirrels and neglect. Spiders may be less likely to wander
into it though.

For backpacking, I spray permethrin on shoes/pants to knock out ticks and
mosquitos. It stays around for multiple washings, so might be viable for
docklines. It says it's effective against spiders.

We've been using moth balls on board for the past couple of years. They
keep the mud daubers and spiders in check. The mud daubers eat the spiders,
but can scare people. I prefer them to spiders. There are both still
aboard, but far fewer in number.

The moth ball smell hasn't been a problem, so I haven't tried any of the
alternatives but am curious if others have had success with them.
Peppermint oil sounds nice!

Regards,
Stephen
C 25 Sweet Chariot
Washington DC


On Mon, Aug 30, 2021, 12:21 PM David Swensen via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I do not know about using Boric Acid with spiders, but I know my brother
> is in Dunkirk, NY and they have mucho spiders there. He uses
> peppermint oil, and it seems to work pretty well. He dabs soaked cotton
> balls around the compalionway, hatches, and portholes, and I believe
> docklines.
>
> David Swensen
> Freya
> 35 MKIII
> Beverly, MA
>
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 10:48 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone ever tried Boric Acid for spiders?
>>
>> We have gobs of them here on the lakes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Practical Sailor just had some discussion on using this for Cockroaches,
>> and I see now, silverfish and water bugs – but I see no mention of spiders.
>>
>> I am trying to get away from spider spray, for obvious reasons, and this
>> looks like a much more friendly alternative, but if it won’t work, well
>> then . . . I guess back to the drawing board.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Coleman
>>
>> Entrada, Erie, PA
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list -
>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> Thanks - Stu
>
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[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

Just remember that the spiders are feeding on the insects.  No spiders equal 
more mosquitoes 烈

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

From: david coleman via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 12:25:00 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: david coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Boric Acid Powder

I have been told that boric acid works because  it clings to their legs 
.However spiders  do not clean their legs so they do not ingest it.Might want 
to research and confirm.We use spider spray and dryer sheets .
David

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021, 12:20 PM David Swensen via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I do not know about using Boric Acid with spiders, but I know my brother is in 
Dunkirk, NY and they have mucho spiders there. He uses peppermint oil, and it 
seems to work pretty well. He dabs soaked cotton balls around the compalionway, 
hatches, and portholes, and I believe docklines.

David Swensen
Freya
35 MKIII
Beverly, MA

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 10:48 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Has anyone ever tried Boric Acid for spiders?

We have gobs of them here on the lakes.



Practical Sailor just had some discussion on using this for Cockroaches, and I 
see now, silverfish and water bugs – but I see no mention of spiders.

I am trying to get away from spider spray, for obvious reasons, and this looks 
like a much more friendly alternative, but if it won’t work, well then . . . I 
guess back to the drawing board.



Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA





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[david coleman via CnC-List]

I have been told that boric acid works because  it clings to their legs
.However spiders  do not clean their legs so they do not ingest it.Might
want to research and confirm.We use spider spray and dryer sheets .
David

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021, 12:20 PM David Swensen via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I do not know about using Boric Acid with spiders, but I know my brother
> is in Dunkirk, NY and they have mucho spiders there. He uses
> peppermint oil, and it seems to work pretty well. He dabs soaked cotton
> balls around the compalionway, hatches, and portholes, and I believe
> docklines.
>
> David Swensen
> Freya
> 35 MKIII
> Beverly, MA
>
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 10:48 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone ever tried Boric Acid for spiders?
>>
>> We have gobs of them here on the lakes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Practical Sailor just had some discussion on using this for Cockroaches,
>> and I see now, silverfish and water bugs – but I see no mention of spiders.
>>
>> I am trying to get away from spider spray, for obvious reasons, and this
>> looks like a much more friendly alternative, but if it won’t work, well
>> then . . . I guess back to the drawing board.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Coleman
>>
>> Entrada, Erie, PA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help
>> with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list -
>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> Thanks - Stu
>
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[David Swensen via CnC-List]

I do not know about using Boric Acid with spiders, but I know my brother is
in Dunkirk, NY and they have mucho spiders there. He uses peppermint oil,
and it seems to work pretty well. He dabs soaked cotton balls around the
compalionway, hatches, and portholes, and I believe docklines.

David Swensen
Freya
35 MKIII
Beverly, MA

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 10:48 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Has anyone ever tried Boric Acid for spiders?
>
> We have gobs of them here on the lakes.
>
>
>
> Practical Sailor just had some discussion on using this for Cockroaches,
> and I see now, silverfish and water bugs – but I see no mention of spiders.
>
> I am trying to get away from spider spray, for obvious reasons, and this
> looks like a much more friendly alternative, but if it won’t work, well
> then . . . I guess back to the drawing board.
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> Entrada, Erie, PA
>
>
>
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
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> - Stu
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