Stus-List Re: Butyl Tape tips

2021-08-11 Thread rockland bazemore via CnC-List 
I will be buried and sealed in butyl tape. As long as there's a fastener to
keep some pressure.


Rockland Bazemore
S/V Blue Pearl
C 37/40+
Port Washington, NY
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Stus-List Re: Butyl Tape tips

2021-08-09 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
Thanks for the tip! I guess I still have lots to learn

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:52 PM Dave S  wrote:

> Fwiw Joel my ‘85 has factory installed butyl still going strong and more
> importantly when I do repair something it cleans off with varsol and a
> toothbrush (after 30 years it’s still pliable!)It is easily replaced,
> without masking, gloves or nasty solvents for cleanup. The partly used roll
> sits in a ziploc bag ready for the next project. My thoughts are
> similar to Chuck’s.   I started sailing in the late 80s when the fancy 3m
> and sika adhesives and sealants were the rage, and butyl wasn’t.  And now
> butyl’s back…..  (I pity whoever has to repair the boat I owned back
> then!).
> Those higher tech materials  have their applications but my default is
> butyl for sure.
>
> Agreed on the link provided - the gentleman ‘mainesail’ who does that site
> knows his stuff, he thinks before he writes and is very informative.
>
> Dave   Windstar 33-2
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 9, 2021, at 8:29 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> I’m surprised for butyl tape don’t know if it really stop leak
> I had that all over my boat and I had to redo my deck
> Hopefully 4200 will go a long way
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 5:31 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm using butyl for the first time and learning to like it.  I'm
>> refitting my boat outside and have to work around humidity, blazing sun and
>> wind and rain.  Another Butyl advantage is that it never cures or gets
>> hard, so you can prepare deck hardware, (wrap some butyl around each
>> fastener), inside the cabin at night, or at home while having an adult
>> beverage and install it the next day, or bag it and install it days later
>> or whenever weather conditions are better.
>>
>> Before butyl, I had success using 3M 4200 and 4000UV but once open, you
>> have to use the tube within 24 hours or toss it.  They are good products,
>> and quicker than butyl, but incur some waste and that makes them very
>> expensive.  I save them for thruhulls and deck fills.
>>
>> Chuck S
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 08/09/2021 1:47 PM Martin DeYoung via CnC-List 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I second Chuck’s comments, I have used 3 rolls of the Bed-It butyl tape
>> during Calypso’s restoration.
>>
>> Martin DeYoung
>> Calypso
>> 1971 C 43
>> Seattle/Port Townsend’s yard
>>
>> On Aug 9, 2021, at 5:18 AM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>> FWIW,  I just rebed my chainplates and some deck hardware using Bed-It
>> Butyl Tape and the link below provided some tips that really helped and I
>> thought I'd share.
>>
>> https://marinehowto.com/bed-it-tape/
>> 
>>
>> Chuck S
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help
>> with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list -
>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>>  Thanks - Stu
>>
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help
>> with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use
>> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks -
>> Stu
>>
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help
>> with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list -
>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> Thanks - Stu
>
> --
> Joel Delamirande
> *www.jdroofing.ca *
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
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>
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*www.jdroofing.ca *
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Stus-List Re: Butyl Tape tips

2021-08-09 Thread Dave S via CnC-List 
Fwiw Joel my ‘85 has factory installed butyl still going strong and more 
importantly when I do repair something it cleans off with varsol and a 
toothbrush (after 30 years it’s still pliable!)It is easily replaced, 
without masking, gloves or nasty solvents for cleanup. The partly used roll 
sits in a ziploc bag ready for the next project. My thoughts are similar to 
Chuck’s.   I started sailing in the late 80s when the fancy 3m and sika 
adhesives and sealants were the rage, and butyl wasn’t.  And now butyl’s 
back…..  (I pity whoever has to repair the boat I owned back then!).  
Those higher tech materials  have their applications but my default is butyl 
for sure.  

Agreed on the link provided - the gentleman ‘mainesail’ who does that site 
knows his stuff, he thinks before he writes and is very informative.  

Dave   Windstar 33-2


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 9, 2021, at 8:29 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m surprised for butyl tape don’t know if it really stop leak 
> I had that all over my boat and I had to redo my deck
> Hopefully 4200 will go a long way 
> 
>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 5:31 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> I'm using butyl for the first time and learning to like it.  I'm refitting 
>> my boat outside and have to work around humidity, blazing sun and wind and 
>> rain.  Another Butyl advantage is that it never cures or gets hard, so you 
>> can prepare deck hardware, (wrap some butyl around each fastener), inside 
>> the cabin at night, or at home while having an adult beverage and install it 
>> the next day, or bag it and install it days later or whenever weather 
>> conditions are better.   
>>  
>> Before butyl, I had success using 3M 4200 and 4000UV but once open, you have 
>> to use the tube within 24 hours or toss it.  They are good products, and 
>> quicker than butyl, but incur some waste and that makes them very expensive. 
>>  I save them for thruhulls and deck fills.
>>  
>> Chuck S
>>  
>>   
>>  
>>  
>>> On 08/09/2021 1:47 PM Martin DeYoung via CnC-List  
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>>  
>>> I second Chuck’s comments, I have used 3 rolls of the Bed-It butyl tape 
>>> during Calypso’s restoration. 
>>> 
>>> Martin DeYoung
>>> Calypso 
>>> 1971 C 43
>>> Seattle/Port Townsend’s yard 
>>> 
 On Aug 9, 2021, at 5:18 AM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
  wrote: 
 
 Hey guys,
 FWIW,  I just rebed my chainplates and some deck hardware using Bed-It 
 Butyl Tape and the link below provided some tips that really helped and I 
 thought I'd share. 
  
 https://marinehowto.com/bed-it-tape/
  
 Chuck S
 Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
 the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
 PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - 
 Stu
>>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
>>> the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use 
>>> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
>> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
>> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - 
>> Stu
> -- 
> Joel Delamirande
> 
> www.jdroofing.ca
> 
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
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Stus-List Re: Butyl Tape tips

2021-08-09 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List 
I’m surprised that you had problems with leaks from the butyl used by C

I pulled all the hardware off of my boat and in every instance where butyl was 
used, the core was bone-dry. No leaks. Nada. Zip. None. Dust dry core.

The only leaks that I had were the subsequent deck hardware installations that 
I did (poorly) using 4200 and Sikaflex.

All the re-bedding that I have done has been with the butyl that I purchased 
from the Maine guy...

Dave Godwin
1982 C 37 - Ronin
1998 Mast & Mallet Thomas Point 34 - Katana
Reedville, VA


> On Aug 9, 2021, at 8:29 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m surprised for butyl tape don’t know if it really stop leak 
> I had that all over my boat and I had to redo my deck
> Hopefully 4200 will go a long way 
> 
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
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Stus-List Re: Butyl Tape tips

2021-08-09 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
I’m surprised for butyl tape don’t know if it really stop leak
I had that all over my boat and I had to redo my deck
Hopefully 4200 will go a long way

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 5:31 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I'm using butyl for the first time and learning to like it.  I'm refitting
> my boat outside and have to work around humidity, blazing sun and wind and
> rain.  Another Butyl advantage is that it never cures or gets hard, so you
> can prepare deck hardware, (wrap some butyl around each fastener), inside
> the cabin at night, or at home while having an adult beverage and install
> it the next day, or bag it and install it days later or whenever weather
> conditions are better.
>
> Before butyl, I had success using 3M 4200 and 4000UV but once open, you
> have to use the tube within 24 hours or toss it.  They are good products,
> and quicker than butyl, but incur some waste and that makes them very
> expensive.  I save them for thruhulls and deck fills.
>
> Chuck S
>
>
>
>
>
> On 08/09/2021 1:47 PM Martin DeYoung via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>
> I second Chuck’s comments, I have used 3 rolls of the Bed-It butyl tape
> during Calypso’s restoration.
>
> Martin DeYoung
> Calypso
> 1971 C 43
> Seattle/Port Townsend’s yard
>
> On Aug 9, 2021, at 5:18 AM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
> FWIW,  I just rebed my chainplates and some deck hardware using Bed-It
> Butyl Tape and the link below provided some tips that really helped and I
> thought I'd share.
>
> https://marinehowto.com/bed-it-tape/
> 
>
> Chuck S
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks -
> Stu
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu

-- 
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*www.jdroofing.ca *
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Stus-List Re: Butyl Tape tips

2021-08-09 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
I'm using butyl for the first time and learning to like it.  I'm refitting my 
boat outside and have to work around humidity, blazing sun and wind and rain.  
Another Butyl advantage is that it never cures or gets hard, so you can prepare 
deck hardware, (wrap some butyl around each fastener), inside the cabin at 
night, or at home while having an adult beverage and install it the next day, 
or bag it and install it days later or whenever weather conditions are better.  

Before butyl, I had success using 3M 4200 and 4000UV but once open, you have to 
use the tube within 24 hours or toss it.  They are good products, and quicker 
than butyl, but incur some waste and that makes them very expensive.  I save 
them for thruhulls and deck fills.

Chuck S





> On 08/09/2021 1:47 PM Martin DeYoung via CnC-List  
> wrote:
>  
>  
> I second Chuck’s comments, I have used 3 rolls of the Bed-It butyl tape 
> during Calypso’s restoration.
> 
> Martin DeYoung
> Calypso 
> 1971 C 43
> Seattle/Port Townsend’s yard 
> 
> 
> > > On Aug 9, 2021, at 5:18 AM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Hey guys,
> > FWIW,  I just rebed my chainplates and some deck hardware using 
> > Bed-It Butyl Tape and the link below provided some tips that really helped 
> > and I thought I'd share. 
> >  
> > https://marinehowto.com/bed-it-tape/ 
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmarinehowto.com%2Fbed-it-tape%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C8fc52f229bee412ac0c508d95b2fd134%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637641083199832709%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=P1g51LjDRcRWefCWTOuaXsZO5f7DWIJctmlHSVKEZLk%3D=0
> >  
> > Chuck S
> > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to 
> > help with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list 
> > - use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  
> > Thanks - Stu
> > 
> > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help 
> > with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
> 
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Stus-List Re: Butyl Tape tips

2021-08-09 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List 
I second Chuck’s comments, I have used 3 rolls of the Bed-It butyl tape during 
Calypso’s restoration.

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C 43
Seattle/Port Townsend’s yard

On Aug 9, 2021, at 5:18 AM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Hey guys,
FWIW,  I just rebed my chainplates and some deck hardware using Bed-It Butyl 
Tape and the link below provided some tips that really helped and I thought I'd 
share.

https://marinehowto.com/bed-it-tape/

Chuck S
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu