Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer
I cannot believe how much *Stuff* they have packed into this 40 footer! Bill Coleman Entrada, Erie, PA From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 12:09 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Ken Heaton Subject: Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer http://nautilus-40-pilothouse.blogspot.com/ Ken H. On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 at 13:07, Ken Heaton wrote: After a quick search online: NAUTILUS 40 was built by Niagara Nautic/Aztec Yachts (CAN), Niagara-on-the Lake, Ontario, CAN Designed by: Henry Adriaanse in 1979 A native of Holland, Henry Adriaanse worked for C Yachts in Canada beginning in late 1960's and stayed with the company until 1976, when he left to start his own design firm. According to his own account, he left the boat design profession in the early 1990's. https://sailboatdata.com/designer/adriaanse-henry Ken H. On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 at 13:01, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote: https://www.crusaderyachts.com/boats-for-sale/1982-aztec-nautilus-40-pilothouse-c-c-annapolis-maryland-7632888/ I had no idea C made these! Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I Kent Island MD USA Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer
Niagara Nautic, later reborn as Aztec Yachts, was started by my wife’s late husband, Henk Zwart and Henri Adriaanse (along with silent partner Jay Dubbeld) in the mid 70s. You know about Henri already. Henk worked in the development shop making molds with George Hinterhoeller at C before this. They designed and first built the Nautilus 40 pilothouse, then the Nautilus 36 pilothouse which was updated into the Nautilus 11m when Aztec was formed. These are very solid, well-built boats and were all pretty much custom boats for each owner since they were a small shop and the interiors were somewhat stick built. If you want to know more about these boats, the guy who knows the most is Art Epp, a later partner in the business. I asked if he minded me posting his email and he gave a thumbs-up mailto:art_...@yahoo.com>>. The company in St. Catharines that Doug mentioned is Neptunus Yachts, located in the former Hinterhoeller Yachts building where I worked back in the 80s. Later Saga Yachts and Turner Yachts were in the same industrial park with many of the same people - former Hinterhoeller and C people who kept recirculating in the Niagara boat ecosystem. Rich Klajnscek C 39-1 “Sea Fox” Hamilton, ON C 30-1 “Ginkgo” Gloucester, MA > On Feb 22, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Steve Thomas via CnC-List > wrote: > > > I spent a couple of weeks doing a passage on a 1980-ish Baltic 39. Hull, rig, > deck (except for the teak on top), Edson steering, etc., were all very C as > far as I could see but the interior was not. It was like a rear-cabin C > with a crosswise "hallway" at the forward end of the cabin. You had to climb > over it to get into the main cabin which made the companionway steps very > tall but it also made it safe from getting pooped. Nice boat. > > > Steve Thomas, > > C MKIII, Port Stanley, ON > > C MKI, Merritt Island, FL > > > > > > -- Original Message -- > From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: wolf...@erie.net > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 9:14 AM > Subject: Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer > > There was also a Baltic 42, same huss as the C 42 Custom. I believe there > was also a later version of the Baltic 42. > > > From: David Risch via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 8:17 AM > To: Stus-List > Cc: David Risch > Subject: Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer > > > Baltic 39…sister to the C & C4 0 > > > From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 7:03 AM > To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > Cc: Della Barba, Joe <mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>> > Subject: Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer > > > I am fascinated by all the different places C designs ended up. Didn’t > Baltic make a C designed boat? > > > Joe Della Barba > > Coquina > > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal > to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > <https://www.paypal.me/stumurray> Thanks - Stu > > > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer
I spent a couple of weeks doing a passage on a 1980-ish Baltic 39. Hull, rig, deck (except for the teak on top), Edson steering, etc., were all very C as far as I could see but the interior was not. It was like a rear-cabin C with a crosswise "hallway" at the forward end of the cabin. You had to climb over it to get into the main cabin which made the companionway steps very tall but it also made it safe from getting pooped. Nice boat. Steve Thomas, C MKIII, Port Stanley, ON C MKI, Merritt Island, FL -- Original Message -- From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: wolf...@erie.net Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 9:14 AM Subject: Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer There was also a Baltic 42, same huss as the C 42 Custom. I believe there was also a later version of the Baltic 42. From: David Risch via CnC-List Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 8:17 AM To: Stus-List Cc: David Risch Subject: Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer Baltic 39…sister to the C & C4 0 From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 7:03 AM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Della Barba, Joe <mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> > Subject: Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer I am fascinated by all the different places C designs ended up. Didn’t Baltic make a C designed boat? Joe Della Barba Coquina Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray <https://www.paypal.me/stumurray> Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
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Nautilus 40 Sailed on one of those (belonged to a friend at our marina) and briefly considered buying it. Definitely not a lot in common with the C yachts we’re typically discussing, IMO. Links below say it was designed by Henri adriaanse who at one point worked for CI suppose that’s the basis of the reference? https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/nautilus-40 http://nautilus-40-pilothouse.blogspot.com/?m=1 https://sailboatdata.com/designer/adriaanse-henry Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 22, 2021, at 11:25 AM, JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List > wrote: > > > The claim is the hull is based on the C 37 which may be true > > On 2021-02-22 11:07 a.m., JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List wrote: >> To call the Nautilus a C design is a bit of a stretch. >> > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
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I am in for one too! Joe Della Barba Coquina From: Richard Bush via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 11:51 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Richard Bush Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer John: that's excellent history...! Thank you; please keep this type if information coming! BTW...have you ever thought of putting together a coffee table type book of all of the C designs? I know one group that would buy the first edition Richard s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 378 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596; Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> To: Andrew Burton via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: JohnKelly Cuthbertson mailto:j...@motiondesignslimited.com>> Sent: Mon, Feb 22, 2021 11:07 am Subject: Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer To call the Nautilus a C design is a bit of a stretch. It was designed by Henri Adriaanse who did work for C in the late 60's. These boats were designed in the late 70's. Now Henri and my Dad had a close relationship through out their lives and went on to produce the Mark 19 and Mark 25 together later in their lives. Sailboat Data credits the Mark Series design to C which is wrong and properly should be credit to Motion Designs Limited. Here is my Dad's notes on Henri Henri was in our design office about five years. He came out from Holland to work for George Hinterhoeller at Niagara-on-the-Lake. | don’t know if that was arranged. One day— we’re talking late ’60s—my phone rang and it was George Hinterhoeller. He said, “| have a young man here whose abilities would be much better served in your design office.” We had that relationship amongst us, to do what was best for the company. So along came Henri Adriaanse, armed with drawings. About five years after that, he decided to move back to Niagara-on-the-Lake, for reasons | never understood. His family had never moved over here. That, in a nutshell, is why in the photograph [of the C design staff] Henri is not there. That’s because he'd just moved back to Niagara; otherwise he would have been front and center. | was sorry he decided to move back. -- [cid:image001.jpg@01D70911.FD6270A0] Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray <https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=6fd46dae-304f5465-6fd444d9-0cc47adc5fec-9e486a4db790baa1=1=7171d1b3-0426-4697-af85-5193a889433b=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray> Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer
John: that's excellent history...! Thank you; please keep this type if information coming! BTW...have you ever thought of putting together a coffee table type book of all of the C designs? I know one group that would buy the first edition Richard s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 378 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596; Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List To: Andrew Burton via CnC-List Cc: JohnKelly Cuthbertson Sent: Mon, Feb 22, 2021 11:07 am Subject: Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer To call the Nautilus a C design is a bit of a stretch. It was designed by Henri Adriaanse who did work for C in the late 60's. These boats were designed in the late 70's. Now Henri and my Dad had a close relationship through out their lives and went on to produce the Mark 19 and Mark 25 together later in their lives. Sailboat Data credits the Mark Series design to C which is wrong and properly should be credit to Motion Designs Limited. Here is my Dad's notes on Henri Henri was in our design office about five years. He came out from Holland to work for George Hinterhoeller at Niagara-on-the-Lake. | don’t know if that was arranged. One day— we’re talking late ’60s—my phone rang and it was George Hinterhoeller. He said, “| have a young man here whose abilities would be much better served in your design office.” We had that relationship amongst us, to do what was best for the company. So along came Henri Adriaanse, armed with drawings. About five years after that, he decided to move back to Niagara-on-the-Lake, for reasons | never understood. His family had never moved over here. That, in a nutshell, is why in the photograph [of the C design staff] Henri is not there. That’s because he'd just moved back to Niagara; otherwise he would have been front and center. | was sorry he decided to move back. -- Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - StuThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer
I always thought the hull of the V28 looked the same as the C 35 Mk I. Glen Eddie Tel: 416-777-5357 Fax: 1-888-812-2557 Torkin Manes LLP Barristers & Solicitors This email message, and any attachments, is intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain content that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this email message. Thank you. From: JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List Sent: February-22-21 11:15 AM To: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Cc: JohnKelly Cuthbertson Subject: Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer Vikings ( 22, 28, 33 and 34 ) were built by Ontario Yachts in Oakville. Ontario Yachts built many of Dad's designs, even before and after C Yachts Ltd. https://airtable.com/tbl9vc5ByMZ9HxDD1/viwUupjpJGsA1dcyr/rec41dlndVzbFrqET<https://airtable.com/tbl9vc5ByMZ9HxDD1/viwUupjpJGsA1dcyr/rec41dlndVzbFrqET> JKC From: Doug Robinson via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> along with C, later Hinterholler Yachts. Viking Yachts in Toronto also used C produced hull designs. [cid:image001.jpg@01D7090D.EB962730] Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and may have been automatically archived by Mimecast Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Providing a safer and more useful place for your human generated data. Specializing in; Security, archiving and compliance. To find out more visit the Mimecast website. Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer
The claim is the hull is based on the C 37 which may be true On 2021-02-22 11:07 a.m., JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List wrote: To call the Nautilus a C design is a bit of a stretch. Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer
Vikings ( 22, 28, 33 and 34 ) were built by Ontario Yachts in Oakville. Ontario Yachts built many of Dad's designs, even before and after C Yachts Ltd. https://airtable.com/tbl9vc5ByMZ9HxDD1/viwUupjpJGsA1dcyr/rec41dlndVzbFrqET JKC From: Doug Robinson via CnC-List along with C, later Hinterholler Yachts. Viking Yachts in Toronto also used C produced hull designs. Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer
To call the Nautilus a C design is a bit of a stretch. It was designed by Henri Adriaanse who did work for C in the late 60's. These boats were designed in the late 70's. Now Henri and my Dad had a close relationship through out their lives and went on to produce the Mark 19 and Mark 25 together later in their lives. Sailboat Data credits the Mark Series design to C which is wrong and properly should be credit to Motion Designs Limited. Here is my Dad's notes on Henri Henri was in our design office about five years. He came out from Holland to work for George Hinterhoeller at Niagara-on-the-Lake. | don’t know if that was arranged. One day— we’re talking late ’60s—my phone rang and it was George Hinterhoeller. He said, “| have a young man here whose abilities would be much better served in your design office.” We had that relationship amongst us, to do what was best for the company. So along came Henri Adriaanse, armed with drawings. About five years after that, he decided to move back to Niagara-on-the-Lake, for reasons | never understood. His family had never moved over here. That, in a nutshell, is why in the photograph [of the C design staff] Henri is not there. That’s because he'd just moved back to Niagara; otherwise he would have been front and center. | was sorry he decided to move back. -- Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer
And the Baltic 46 and 51 were by C They were the designer of choice for the early Baltics. I have many miles on a 51 and can attest to the fact that it is a delight to sail. Andy Formerly of C 40 Peregrine Now Baltic 47 Masquerade Andrew Burton 26 Beacon Hill Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 > On Feb 22, 2021, at 09:14, Matthew via CnC-List wrote: > > There was also a Baltic 42, same huss as the C 42 Custom. I believe there > was also a later version of the Baltic 42. > > From: David Risch via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 8:17 AM > To: Stus-List > Cc: David Risch > Subject: Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer > > Baltic 39…sister to the C & C4 0 > > From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 7:03 AM > To: Stus-List > Cc: Della Barba, Joe > Subject: Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer > > I am fascinated by all the different places C designs ended up. Didn’t > Baltic make a C designed boat? > > Joe Della Barba > Coquina > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer
There was also a Baltic 42, same huss as the C 42 Custom. I believe there was also a later version of the Baltic 42. From: David Risch via CnC-List Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 8:17 AM To: Stus-List Cc: David Risch Subject: Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer Baltic 39.sister to the C & C4 0 From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 7:03 AM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> > Subject: Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer I am fascinated by all the different places C designs ended up. Didn't Baltic make a C designed boat? Joe Della Barba Coquina Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
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Going by Sailboatdata.com there were 5 Baltics designed by C in the 1970's Model LOA First Built BALTIC 33 <https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/baltic-33> 33.00 ft / 10.06 m 1975 BALTIC 37 <https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/baltic-37> 37.00 ft / 11.28 m 1978 BALTIC 39 <https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/baltic-39> 38.76 ft / 11.81 m 1977 ( 74 built to 1983 ) BALTIC 42 <https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/baltic-42> 42.43 ft / 12.93 m 1976 BALTIC 46 <https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/baltic-46> 46.18 ft / 14.08 m 1973 BALTIC 51 <https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/baltic-51> 50.92 ft / 15.52 m 1979 On Mon, 22 Feb 2021 at 08:03, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I am fascinated by all the different places C designs ended up. Didn’t > Baltic make a C designed boat? > > > > *Joe Della Barba* > > *Coquina* > > > > > > *From:* Doug Robinson via CnC-List > *Sent:* Sunday, February 21, 2021 11:20 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Doug Robinson > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer > > > > Actually they were over in the St Catharine Airport and functioned as an > independent company. The Niagara on the Lake Sailing Club had them as a > commercial account along with C, later Hinterholler Yachts. Viking > Yachts in Toronto also used C produced hull designs. There is also a > Dutch builder of motor yachts in Port Weller (the name of which escapes me) > and I have never seen an add for their product, but they are gorgeous and > they sell everything that they turn out. > > On 2/21/21 11:03 PM, Richard Bush via CnC-List wrote: > > If you look at the ad closely, it says "C designed" which isn't the > same as C manufactured...perhaps Rob Ball can shed some light? > > > > Richard > > s/v Bushmark4: 1983 C 37 CB; Ohio River, mile 596; > > > > > > Richard N. Bush Law Offices > > 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine > > Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 > > 502-584-7255 > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List > > To: 'Stus-List' > Cc: j...@dellabarba.com > Sent: Sun, Feb 21, 2021 12:00 pm > Subject: Stus-List C Motorsailer > > > https://www.crusaderyachts.com/boats-for-sale/1982-aztec-nautilus-40-pilothouse-c-c-annapolis-maryland-7632888/ > <https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=169a4b8c-49017377-169a62fb-ac1f6b44e86e-332b68c2d12c5abf=1=045be04d-0b47-4529-bd3d-83a8ab069191=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.crusaderyachts.com%2Fboats-for-sale%2F1982-aztec-nautilus-40-pilothouse-c-c-annapolis-maryland-7632888%2F> > > > > I had no idea C made these! > > > > > > Joe Della Barba > > Coquina C 35 MK I > > Kent Island MD USA > > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > <https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=fa96c171-a50df98a-fa96e806-ac1f6b44e86e-5dc24df081c9b875=1=045be04d-0b47-4529-bd3d-83a8ab069191=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray>Thanks > - Stu > > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > <https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=6d93d949-3208e1b2-6d93f03e-ac1f6b44e86e-1c4e0fc4022b5514=1=045be04d-0b47-4529-bd3d-83a8ab069191=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray> > Thanks - Stu > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks > - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
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Baltic 39...sister to the C & C4 0 From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 7:03 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer I am fascinated by all the different places C designs ended up. Didn't Baltic make a C designed boat? Joe Della Barba Coquina From: Doug Robinson via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 11:20 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Doug Robinson mailto:doug.robins...@gmail.com>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer Actually they were over in the St Catharine Airport and functioned as an independent company. The Niagara on the Lake Sailing Club had them as a commercial account along with C, later Hinterholler Yachts. Viking Yachts in Toronto also used C produced hull designs. There is also a Dutch builder of motor yachts in Port Weller (the name of which escapes me) and I have never seen an add for their product, but they are gorgeous and they sell everything that they turn out. On 2/21/21 11:03 PM, Richard Bush via CnC-List wrote: If you look at the ad closely, it says "C designed" which isn't the same as C manufactured...perhaps Rob Ball can shed some light? Richard s/v Bushmark4: 1983 C 37 CB; Ohio River, mile 596; Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: 'Stus-List' <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: j...@dellabarba.com<mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> Sent: Sun, Feb 21, 2021 12:00 pm Subject: Stus-List C Motorsailer https://www.crusaderyachts.com/boats-for-sale/1982-aztec-nautilus-40-pilothouse-c-c-annapolis-maryland-7632888/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect2.fireeye.com%2Fv1%2Furl%3Fk%3D169a4b8c-49017377-169a62fb-ac1f6b44e86e-332b68c2d12c5abf%26q%3D1%26e%3D045be04d-0b47-4529-bd3d-83a8ab069191%26u%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.crusaderyachts.com%252Fboats-for-sale%252F1982-aztec-nautilus-40-pilothouse-c-c-annapolis-maryland-7632888%252F=04%7C01%7C%7C5b2bf4c8e8ca4ca5011708d8d729d1d7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637495921905924685%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=27MZOqdg6uSpC9nHWacL2oXmah6HtplOF6%2BL0a5UiQI%3D=0> I had no idea C made these! Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I Kent Island MD USA Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect2.fireeye.com%2Fv1%2Furl%3Fk%3Dfa96c171-a50df98a-fa96e806-ac1f6b44e86e-5dc24df081c9b875%26q%3D1%26e%3D045be04d-0b47-4529-bd3d-83a8ab069191%26u%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.paypal.me%252Fstumurray=04%7C01%7C%7C5b2bf4c8e8ca4ca5011708d8d729d1d7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637495921905934677%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=SJAc6rCeKvXjo0N7udnERfUEMPVvPbdY8ogBLh%2BWWk4%3D=0> Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect2.fireeye.com%2Fv1%2Furl%3Fk%3D6d93d949-3208e1b2-6d93f03e-ac1f6b44e86e-1c4e0fc4022b5514%26q%3D1%26e%3D045be04d-0b47-4529-bd3d-83a8ab069191%26u%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.paypal.me%252Fstumurray=04%7C01%7C%7C5b2bf4c8e8ca4ca5011708d8d729d1d7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637495921905934677%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=%2BA5%2Bh0OkZgqWDZ5R5Za1nt2PazUO7%2F%2BV5%2FGzvsGwmXk%3D=0> Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
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Here is some background and a list of other designs by Cuthberson and Cassian, who were initially a design firm. https://sailboatdata.com/designer/cc-design Dave On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 at 23:19, Doug Robinson via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Actually they were over in the St Catharine Airport and functioned as an > independent company. The Niagara on the Lake Sailing Club had them as a > commercial account along with C, later Hinterholler Yachts. Viking > Yachts in Toronto also used C produced hull designs. There is also a > Dutch builder of motor yachts in Port Weller (the name of which escapes me) > and I have never seen an add for their product, but they are gorgeous and > they sell everything that they turn out. > On 2/21/21 11:03 PM, Richard Bush via CnC-List wrote: > > If you look at the ad closely, it says "C designed" which isn't the > same as C manufactured...perhaps Rob Ball can shed some light? > > Richard > s/v Bushmark4: 1983 C 37 CB; Ohio River, mile 596; > > > Richard N. Bush Law Offices > 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine > Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 > 502-584-7255 > > > -Original Message- > From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List > > To: 'Stus-List' > Cc: j...@dellabarba.com > Sent: Sun, Feb 21, 2021 12:00 pm > Subject: Stus-List C Motorsailer > > > https://www.crusaderyachts.com/boats-for-sale/1982-aztec-nautilus-40-pilothouse-c-c-annapolis-maryland-7632888/ > > I had no idea C made these! > > > Joe Della Barba > Coquina C 35 MK I > Kent Island MD USA > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - > Stu > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks > - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
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I am fascinated by all the different places C designs ended up. Didn’t Baltic make a C designed boat? Joe Della Barba Coquina From: Doug Robinson via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 11:20 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Doug Robinson Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer Actually they were over in the St Catharine Airport and functioned as an independent company. The Niagara on the Lake Sailing Club had them as a commercial account along with C, later Hinterholler Yachts. Viking Yachts in Toronto also used C produced hull designs. There is also a Dutch builder of motor yachts in Port Weller (the name of which escapes me) and I have never seen an add for their product, but they are gorgeous and they sell everything that they turn out. On 2/21/21 11:03 PM, Richard Bush via CnC-List wrote: If you look at the ad closely, it says "C designed" which isn't the same as C manufactured...perhaps Rob Ball can shed some light? Richard s/v Bushmark4: 1983 C 37 CB; Ohio River, mile 596; Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: 'Stus-List' <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: j...@dellabarba.com<mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> Sent: Sun, Feb 21, 2021 12:00 pm Subject: Stus-List C Motorsailer https://www.crusaderyachts.com/boats-for-sale/1982-aztec-nautilus-40-pilothouse-c-c-annapolis-maryland-7632888/<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=169a4b8c-49017377-169a62fb-ac1f6b44e86e-332b68c2d12c5abf=1=045be04d-0b47-4529-bd3d-83a8ab069191=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.crusaderyachts.com%2Fboats-for-sale%2F1982-aztec-nautilus-40-pilothouse-c-c-annapolis-maryland-7632888%2F> I had no idea C made these! Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I Kent Island MD USA Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray <https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=fa96c171-a50df98a-fa96e806-ac1f6b44e86e-5dc24df081c9b875=1=045be04d-0b47-4529-bd3d-83a8ab069191=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray> Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=6d93d949-3208e1b2-6d93f03e-ac1f6b44e86e-1c4e0fc4022b5514=1=045be04d-0b47-4529-bd3d-83a8ab069191=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray> Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
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Actually they were over in the St Catharine Airport and functioned as an independent company. The Niagara on the Lake Sailing Club had them as a commercial account along with C, later Hinterholler Yachts. Viking Yachts in Toronto also used C produced hull designs. There is also a Dutch builder of motor yachts in Port Weller (the name of which escapes me) and I have never seen an add for their product, but they are gorgeous and they sell everything that they turn out. On 2/21/21 11:03 PM, Richard Bush via CnC-List wrote: If you look at the ad closely, it says "C designed" which isn't the same as C manufactured...perhaps Rob Ball can shed some light? Richard s/v Bushmark4: 1983 C 37 CB; Ohio River, mile 596; Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List To: 'Stus-List' Cc: j...@dellabarba.com Sent: Sun, Feb 21, 2021 12:00 pm Subject: Stus-List C Motorsailer https://www.crusaderyachts.com/boats-for-sale/1982-aztec-nautilus-40-pilothouse-c-c-annapolis-maryland-7632888/ I had no idea C made these! Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I Kent Island MD USA Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
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If you look at the ad closely, it says "C designed" which isn't the same as C manufactured...perhaps Rob Ball can shed some light? Richard s/v Bushmark4: 1983 C 37 CB; Ohio River, mile 596; Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List To: 'Stus-List' Cc: j...@dellabarba.com Sent: Sun, Feb 21, 2021 12:00 pm Subject: Stus-List C Motorsailer https://www.crusaderyachts.com/boats-for-sale/1982-aztec-nautilus-40-pilothouse-c-c-annapolis-maryland-7632888/ I had no idea C made these! Joe Della BarbaCoquina C 35 MK IKent Island MD USA Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - StuThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
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There's always this one if you need more space: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1982/c-c-landfall-48-3711008/ I would be very tempted by either of these boats if they were nearer to me. -- Shawn Wright shawngwri...@gmail.com S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 10:05 AM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Given the fin keel and spade rudder, I would guess a LOT better than the > average motorsailer and worse than a C 40. > > > > > > Joe Della Barba > > Coquina C 35 MK I > > Kent Island MD USA > > > > > > > > *From:* Shawn Wright via CnC-List > *Sent:* Sunday, February 21, 2021 12:26 PM > *To:* Stus-List > *Cc:* Shawn Wright > *Subject:* Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer > > > > That looks like a very comfortable boat for our BC winters. I wonder how > they sail? > > -- > > Shawn Wright > > shawngwri...@gmail.com > > S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 > > https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 9:24 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Nice looking boat! I think you deserve this Joe. > > Bill Coleman > > Erie PA > > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 12:01 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > https://www.crusaderyachts.com/boats-for-sale/1982-aztec-nautilus-40-pilothouse-c-c-annapolis-maryland-7632888/ > > > > I had no idea C made these! > > > > > > Joe Della Barba > > Coquina C 35 MK I > > Kent Island MD USA > > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks > - Stu > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks > - Stu > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks > - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
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Given the fin keel and spade rudder, I would guess a LOT better than the average motorsailer and worse than a C 40. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I Kent Island MD USA From: Shawn Wright via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 12:26 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Shawn Wright Subject: Stus-List Re: C Motorsailer That looks like a very comfortable boat for our BC winters. I wonder how they sail? -- Shawn Wright shawngwri...@gmail.com <mailto:shawngwri...@gmail.com> S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 9:24 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: Nice looking boat! I think you deserve this Joe. Bill Coleman Erie PA On Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 12:01 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: https://www.crusaderyachts.com/boats-for-sale/1982-aztec-nautilus-40-pilothouse-c-c-annapolis-maryland-7632888/ I had no idea C made these! Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I Kent Island MD USA Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
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That looks like a very comfortable boat for our BC winters. I wonder how they sail? -- Shawn Wright shawngwri...@gmail.com S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 9:24 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Nice looking boat! I think you deserve this Joe. > > Bill Coleman > Erie PA > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 12:01 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> >> https://www.crusaderyachts.com/boats-for-sale/1982-aztec-nautilus-40-pilothouse-c-c-annapolis-maryland-7632888/ >> >> >> >> I had no idea C made these! >> >> >> >> >> >> Joe Della Barba >> >> Coquina C 35 MK I >> >> Kent Island MD USA >> >> >> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help >> with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> Thanks - Stu > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks > - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
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Nice looking boat! I think you deserve this Joe. Bill Coleman Erie PA On Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 12:01 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > https://www.crusaderyachts.com/boats-for-sale/1982-aztec-nautilus-40-pilothouse-c-c-annapolis-maryland-7632888/ > > > > I had no idea C made these! > > > > > > Joe Della Barba > > Coquina C 35 MK I > > Kent Island MD USA > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks > - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
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http://nautilus-40-pilothouse.blogspot.com/ Ken H. On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 at 13:07, Ken Heaton wrote: > After a quick search online: > > NAUTILUS 40 was built by Niagara Nautic/Aztec Yachts (CAN), Niagara-on-the > Lake, Ontario, CAN > Designed by: Henry Adriaanse in 1979 > > A native of Holland, Henry Adriaanse worked for C Yachts in Canada > beginning in late 1960's and stayed with the company until 1976, when he > left to start his own design firm. According to his own account, he left > the boat design profession in the early 1990's. > > https://sailboatdata.com/designer/adriaanse-henry > > Ken H. > > > On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 at 13:01, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> >> https://www.crusaderyachts.com/boats-for-sale/1982-aztec-nautilus-40-pilothouse-c-c-annapolis-maryland-7632888/ >> >> >> >> I had no idea C made these! >> >> >> >> >> >> Joe Della Barba >> >> Coquina C 35 MK I >> >> Kent Island MD USA >> >> >> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help >> with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> Thanks - Stu > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
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After a quick search online: NAUTILUS 40 was built by Niagara Nautic/Aztec Yachts (CAN), Niagara-on-the Lake, Ontario, CAN Designed by: Henry Adriaanse in 1979 A native of Holland, Henry Adriaanse worked for C Yachts in Canada beginning in late 1960's and stayed with the company until 1976, when he left to start his own design firm. According to his own account, he left the boat design profession in the early 1990's. https://sailboatdata.com/designer/adriaanse-henry Ken H. On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 at 13:01, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > https://www.crusaderyachts.com/boats-for-sale/1982-aztec-nautilus-40-pilothouse-c-c-annapolis-maryland-7632888/ > > > > I had no idea C made these! > > > > > > Joe Della Barba > > Coquina C 35 MK I > > Kent Island MD USA > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks > - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
