Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover

2022-06-23 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
I went over to Bacon's today and they explained that the cost included about
$375 worth of other work, mainly spreader patches and some other misc.
stuff. Just the UV cover was about the same price as everyplace else. 


Joe Della Barba
Coquina C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA



-Original Message-
From: John Conklin via CnC-List  
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 8:52 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe ; John Conklin

Subject: Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover

Inflation YES  I'll say !
Just had my UV cover replaced in Oriental NC on my 130 headsail   $1300+ 

YIKES ! 


> On Jun 22, 2022, at 6:30 AM, David Swensen via CnC-List
 wrote:
> 
> 


Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover

2022-06-22 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
Inflation YES  I'll say !
Just had my UV cover replaced in Oriental NC on my 130 headsail   $1300+ 

YIKES ! 


> On Jun 22, 2022, at 6:30 AM, David Swensen via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 


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2022-06-22 Thread Matthew via CnC-List
I will add to the conversation that the sail cover on my 153 genoa definitely 
affects the shape, particularly in light air.

 

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List  
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 8:46 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover

 

That is a great article, and I think a great alternative . I get PS, but I 
don't remember that. I remember them doing the Hypalon boat painting. I didn't 
realize that paint was actually considered a premium product at the top 
sailmakers. When I first heard of people putting house paint on their sails, I 
thought oh my God! But it looks like that Amazon hypalon paint is just the 
ticket. I wish I had done that instead of putting the insignia sticky stuff on. 
Not sure how I'll get that off!

 

Also interesting in the comments below that, about the cover causing a hook in 
the leech. The Frisbee effect! I have that now, and I don't know how to get rid 
of it

Bill Coleman

Entrada Erie PA 

 

On Wed, Jun 22, 2022, 06:31 David Swensen via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Painted UV protection?

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.practical-sailor.com/sails-rigging-deckgear/the-case-of-the-painted-jib%3Famp%3D1

Sent from my iPhone





On Jun 21, 2022, at 7:54 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

I think I am going to use the sew-on cover again, the sock seems a little 
involved. Last time I had a UV cover done it was $500 or so, inflation sucks. I 
am going to ask around a few places. One thing that can bug you about an old 
boat is fixing the same stuff over and over. I am after batteries again and 
that isn’t going to be cheap either just like the last time or the one before 
that or the one before that….

 

To make it even worse, going to Saint Michael’s on Saturday the wind was 
CRANKING from astern, way too much for the spinnaker, the genoa is in the shop, 
and I don’t even have my working jib anymore. We ended up using just the main 
and that was good for hitting 8 knots, but the balance was terrible. Steering a 
straight line and not rounding up was a bit of a challenge.

In hindsight dragging out the storm jib would have been worth it for balance.

Joe

Coquina

 



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2022-06-22 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
That is a great article, and I think a great alternative . I get PS, but I
don't remember that. I remember them doing the Hypalon boat painting. I
didn't realize that paint was actually considered a premium product at the
top sailmakers. When I first heard of people putting house paint on their
sails, I thought oh my God! But it looks like that Amazon hypalon paint is
just the ticket. I wish I had done that instead of putting the insignia
sticky stuff on. Not sure how I'll get that off!

Also interesting in the comments below that, about the cover causing a hook
in the leech. The Frisbee effect! I have that now, and I don't know how to
get rid of it

Bill Coleman
Entrada Erie PA

On Wed, Jun 22, 2022, 06:31 David Swensen via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Painted UV protection?
>
>
> https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.practical-sailor.com/sails-rigging-deckgear/the-case-of-the-painted-jib%3Famp%3D1
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 21, 2022, at 7:54 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> I think I am going to use the sew-on cover again, the sock seems a little
> involved. Last time I had a UV cover done it was $500 or so, inflation
> sucks. I am going to ask around a few places. One thing that can bug you
> about an old boat is fixing the same stuff over and over. I am after
> batteries again and that isn’t going to be cheap either just like the last
> time or the one before that or the one before that….
>
>
>
> To make it even worse, going to Saint Michael’s on Saturday the wind was
> CRANKING from astern, way too much for the spinnaker, the genoa is in the
> shop, and I don’t even have my working jib anymore. We ended up using just
> the main and that was good for hitting 8 knots, but the balance was
> terrible. Steering a straight line and not rounding up was a bit of a
> challenge.
>
> In hindsight dragging out the storm jib would have been worth it for
> balance.
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
>
>
>


Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover

2022-06-22 Thread David Swensen via CnC-List
Painted UV protection?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.practical-sailor.com/sails-rigging-deckgear/the-case-of-the-painted-jib%3Famp%3D1

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2022, at 7:54 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I think I am going to use the sew-on cover again, the sock seems a little 
> involved. Last time I had a UV cover done it was $500 or so, inflation sucks. 
> I am going to ask around a few places. One thing that can bug you about an 
> old boat is fixing the same stuff over and over. I am after batteries again 
> and that isn’t going to be cheap either just like the last time or the one 
> before that or the one before that….
>  
> To make it even worse, going to Saint Michael’s on Saturday the wind was 
> CRANKING from astern, way too much for the spinnaker, the genoa is in the 
> shop, and I don’t even have my working jib anymore. We ended up using just 
> the main and that was good for hitting 8 knots, but the balance was terrible. 
> Steering a straight line and not rounding up was a bit of a challenge.
> In hindsight dragging out the storm jib would have been worth it for balance.
> Joe
> Coquina
>  


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2022-06-21 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
My sailmaker installed a glue on gray laminate material UV leech protector on 
my two new roller furling laminate genoas (145 and 110) sails when they were 
made.  I don’t think it is stitched but will look tomorrow.   I am not sure 
what the material is, but could find out.  It last lasted for 4 years and shows 
no signs of detaching or degrading.  One small spot has needed repair due I 
think to shroud abrasion, and that was just done with sail repair tape.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



> On Jun 21, 2022, at 10:19 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
 Some calling around got it down to $900 or so. One shop had a recording 
 saying they already had too many jobs and would only take calls from 
 people with work already in their shop!
 $400 is $400 
  
> 
>  
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina C 35 MK I
> Kent Island MD USA



Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover

2022-06-21 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
Some calling around got it down to $900 or so. One shop had a recording saying 
they already had too many jobs and would only take calls from people with work 
already in their shop!

$400 is $400 

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 



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2022-06-21 Thread cenelson--- via CnC-List
In my case, the sheets are led down to the tack as the sleeve is hoisted over 
the sail.
Charlie


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On Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 8:24 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
 wrote:

So, do you zip down to your sheets, and zip up to them, or do you take the 
sheets off altogether and just zip with one zipper? 

Bill ColemanEntrada Erie PA 
On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 21:55 Bob Mann via CnC-List  wrote:

   Do away with the sacrificial altogether!  I bought a jib sock for my 35 in 
December 2017 for $580 from a small, local sailmaker.  A few tears in it but 
still going strong! 
   
   Bob Mann   Detroit  
  On 06/20/2022 9:45 PM Neil Andersen via CnC-List  
wrote:   
   
 I had a “stick on” sacrificial cover attached to my 150 years ago.  I was 
rounding Bloody Point on the Chesapeake in fairly strong winds when the cover 
got attached to the shrouds instead of the sail.  Not a lot of fun as we could 
only adjust our heading so much, we’re running out of “runway”, and the sail 
was basically glued to the shroud.   I will NEVER use a glue on item like that 
unless it is also sewn on as well.  
   Neil Andersen, W3NEA    Rock Hall, MD 21661   484-354-8800  From: Joel 
Aronson via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 8:28:31 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover  
 U V cover replacement is by the foot. What else did they recommend?  New 
webbing? Restitching?   
   On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 7:34 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
 wrote: 
  
  Maybe it's time for a SailRite machine!  On the other hand, isn't there some 
kind of a white sticky material you can buy and just put it on yourself? It 
sticks like the numbers or graphics. I'm pretty sure I had that on one of my 
leeches. 
 
  Bill Coleman   Entrada Erie PA 
   On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 19:08 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
 wrote: 
  
   
 
 
The UV cover on my genoa is starting to fail, so I took it to Bacons to get 
repaired. I figured 5 or 6 boat bucks maybe. Well I figured wrong, the estimate 
came back at $1350! Yikes!
 
Are they nuts or is this the going rate now? That seems like a pretty good 
chunk of an entire sail!
 
 
 
 
 
Joe Della Barba
 
Coquina C 35 MK I
 
Kent Island MD USA
 
 
 
 
   
  
  -- 
Joel 
 
 
 





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2022-06-21 Thread cenelson--- via CnC-List
OTOH, as I age I often forget that I fixed/replaced/rebuilt/etc. a particular 
piece of gear previously—often even forgetting how I fixed it before.
Thus most projects are ‘new’ to my aging brain!
Charlie NelsonWater PhantomC 36XL/kcb


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On Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 7:54 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 wrote:

 
I think I am going to use the sew-on cover again, the sock seems a little 
involved. Last time I had a UV cover done it was $500 or so, inflation sucks. I 
am going to ask around a few places. One thing that can bug you about an old 
boat is fixing the same stuff over and over. I am after batteries again and 
that isn’t going to be cheap either just like the last time or the one before 
that or the one before that….
 
  
 
To make it even worse, going to Saint Michael’s on Saturday the wind was 
CRANKING from astern, way too much for the spinnaker, the genoa is in the shop, 
and I don’t even have my working jib anymore. We ended up using just the main 
and that was good for hitting 8 knots, but the balance was terrible. Steering a 
straight line and not rounding up was a bit of a challenge.
 
In hindsight dragging out the storm jib would have been worth it for balance.
 
Joe
 
Coquina
 
  
 




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2022-06-21 Thread Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List
I made a headsail sock several years ago for a PY26 for about $100. Bought long 
and short zipper and some acrylic fabric. Zip up to sheets and zip long zipper 
as hoist sock.

This sock was needed to protect a nice, lightweight genoa that had the heavy 
Sunbrella uv protection removed due to poor, amateur installation. The stick-on 
uv protection underneath was marginal -- doesn't last very long. The system 
worked well and was cost effective.

Jeff Laman
81C

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From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 8:23:22 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover

So, do you zip down to your sheets, and zip up to them, or do you take the 
sheets off altogether and just zip with one zipper?

Bill Coleman
Entrada Erie PA

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 21:55 Bob Mann via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Do away with the sacrificial altogether!  I bought a jib sock for my 35 in 
December 2017 for $580 from a small, local sailmaker.  A few tears in it but 
still going strong!

Bob Mann
Detroit
On 06/20/2022 9:45 PM Neil Andersen via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


I had a “stick on” sacrificial cover attached to my 150 years ago.  I was 
rounding Bloody Point on the Chesapeake in fairly strong winds when the cover 
got attached to the shrouds instead of the sail.  Not a lot of fun as we could 
only adjust our heading so much, we’re running out of “runway”, and the sail 
was basically glued to the shroud.   I will NEVER use a glue on item like that 
unless it is also sewn on as well.

Neil Andersen, W3NEA
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 8:28:31 PM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Joel Aronson mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover

U V cover replacement is by the foot. What else did they recommend?  New 
webbing? Restitching?

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 7:34 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Maybe it's time for a SailRite machine!
On the other hand, isn't there some kind of a white sticky material you can buy 
and just put it on yourself? It sticks like the numbers or graphics. I'm pretty 
sure I had that on one of my leeches.

Bill Coleman
Entrada Erie PA

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 19:08 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:



The UV cover on my genoa is starting to fail, so I took it to Bacons to get 
repaired. I figured 5 or 6 boat bucks maybe. Well I figured wrong, the estimate 
came back at $1350! Yikes!

Are they nuts or is this the going rate now? That seems like a pretty good 
chunk of an entire sail!





Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA





--
Joel



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2022-06-21 Thread Jeff Nelson via CnC-List
We coil the sheets up to the sail and leave them under the sock, then 
just 1 zip all the way to the bottom.
Our foredecker still hasn't figured out the tidy sock douse makes easy 
sock up.  When I do it, it takes about 3 minutes
to put the sock up.  When foredecker does it...well it is just a 
complete circus.  I don't mind watching circuses

while drinking my rhum.

--
Cheers,
  Jeff Nelson
  Muir Caileag
  C 30 - 549
  Armdale Y.C.

On 2022-06-21 09:23, Bill Coleman via CnC-List wrote:
So, do you zip down to your sheets, and zip up to them, or do you take 
the sheets off altogether and just zip with one zipper?


Bill Coleman
Entrada Erie PA

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 21:55 Bob Mann via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Do away with the sacrificial altogether!  I bought a jib sock for
my 35 in December 2017 for $580 from a small, local sailmaker.  A
few tears in it but still going strong!

Bob Mann
Detroit

On 06/20/2022 9:45 PM Neil Andersen via CnC-List
 wrote:


I had a “stick on” sacrificial cover attached to my 150 years
ago.  I was rounding Bloody Point on the Chesapeake in fairly
strong winds when the cover got attached to the shrouds instead
of the sail.  Not a lot of fun as we could only adjust our
heading so much, we’re running out of “runway”, and the sail was
basically glued to the shroud.   I will NEVER use a glue on item
like that unless it is also sewn on as well.

Neil Andersen, W3NEA
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

*From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
*Sent:* Monday, June 20, 2022 8:28:31 PM
*To:* Stus-List 
*Cc:* Joel Aronson 
*Subject:* Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover

U V cover replacement is by the foot. What else did they
recommend?  New webbing? Restitching?

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 7:34 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List
 wrote:

Maybe it's time for a SailRite machine!
On the other hand, isn't there some kind of a white sticky
material you can buy and just put it on yourself? It sticks
like the numbers or graphics. I'm pretty sure I had that on
one of my leeches.

Bill Coleman
Entrada Erie PA

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 19:08 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
 wrote:

The UV cover on my genoa is starting to fail, so I took
it to Bacons to get repaired. I figured 5 or 6 boat bucks
maybe. Well I figured wrong, the estimate came back at
$1350! Yikes!

Are they nuts or is this the going rate now? That seems
like a pretty good chunk of an entire sail!

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

-- 
Joel




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2022-06-21 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
So, do you zip down to your sheets, and zip up to them, or do you take the
sheets off altogether and just zip with one zipper?

Bill Coleman
Entrada Erie PA

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 21:55 Bob Mann via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Do away with the sacrificial altogether!  I bought a jib sock for my 35 in
> December 2017 for $580 from a small, local sailmaker.  A few tears in it
> but still going strong!
>
> Bob Mann
> Detroit
>
> On 06/20/2022 9:45 PM Neil Andersen via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>
> I had a “stick on” sacrificial cover attached to my 150 years ago.  I was
> rounding Bloody Point on the Chesapeake in fairly strong winds when the
> cover got attached to the shrouds instead of the sail.  Not a lot of fun as
> we could only adjust our heading so much, we’re running out of “runway”,
> and the sail was basically glued to the shroud.   I will NEVER use a glue
> on item like that unless it is also sewn on as well.
>
> Neil Andersen, W3NEA
> Rock Hall, MD 21661
> 484-354-8800
> --
> *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Monday, June 20, 2022 8:28:31 PM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* Joel Aronson 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover
>
> U V cover replacement is by the foot. What else did they recommend?  New
> webbing? Restitching?
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 7:34 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Maybe it's time for a SailRite machine!
> On the other hand, isn't there some kind of a white sticky material you
> can buy and just put it on yourself? It sticks like the numbers or
> graphics. I'm pretty sure I had that on one of my leeches.
>
> Bill Coleman
> Entrada Erie PA
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 19:08 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> The UV cover on my genoa is starting to fail, so I took it to Bacons to
> get repaired. I figured 5 or 6 boat bucks maybe. Well I figured wrong, the
> estimate came back at $1350! Yikes!
>
> Are they nuts or is this the going rate now? That seems like a pretty good
> chunk of an entire sail!
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina C 35 MK I
>
> Kent Island MD USA
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Joel
>
>


Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover

2022-06-21 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I think I am going to use the sew-on cover again, the sock seems a little 
involved. Last time I had a UV cover done it was $500 or so, inflation sucks. I 
am going to ask around a few places. One thing that can bug you about an old 
boat is fixing the same stuff over and over. I am after batteries again and 
that isn’t going to be cheap either just like the last time or the one before 
that or the one before that….

To make it even worse, going to Saint Michael’s on Saturday the wind was 
CRANKING from astern, way too much for the spinnaker, the genoa is in the shop, 
and I don’t even have my working jib anymore. We ended up using just the main 
and that was good for hitting 8 knots, but the balance was terrible. Steering a 
straight line and not rounding up was a bit of a challenge.
In hindsight dragging out the storm jib would have been worth it for balance.
Joe
Coquina



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2022-06-21 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I would think you should be able to get a decent estimate over the phone.
Call around.

As I recall, it's about $700-800 in my area.
-- 
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


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2022-06-21 Thread Jeff Nelson via CnC-List
I had a similar experience when a new crew sheeted in the headsail 
through the spreader.  Real blast getting it off,

and didn't really do the sail much good.  :-)

The saying most often heard on the boat now is to the spreader, not 
through the spreader.


--
Cheers,
  Jeff Nelson
  Muir Caileag
  C 30 - 549
  Armdale Y.C.

On 2022-06-20 22:45, Neil Andersen via CnC-List wrote:
I had a “stick on” sacrificial cover attached to my 150 years ago.  I 
was rounding Bloody Point on the Chesapeake in fairly strong winds 
when the cover got attached to the shrouds instead of the sail.  Not a 
lot of fun as we could only adjust our heading so much, we’re running 
out of “runway”, and the sail was basically glued to the shroud.   I 
will NEVER use a glue on item like that unless it is also sewn on as 
well.


Neil Andersen, W3NEA
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

*From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
*Sent:* Monday, June 20, 2022 8:28:31 PM
*To:* Stus-List 
*Cc:* Joel Aronson 
*Subject:* Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover
U V cover replacement is by the foot. What else did they recommend?  
New webbing? Restitching?


On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 7:34 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Maybe it's time for a SailRite machine!
On the other hand, isn't there some kind of a white sticky
material you can buy and just put it on yourself? It sticks like
the numbers or graphics. I'm pretty sure I had that on one of my
leeches.

Bill Coleman
Entrada Erie PA

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 19:08 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
 wrote:

The UV cover on my genoa is starting to fail, so I took it to
Bacons to get repaired. I figured 5 or 6 boat bucks maybe.
Well I figured wrong, the estimate came back at $1350! Yikes!

Are they nuts or is this the going rate now? That seems like a
pretty good chunk of an entire sail!

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

--
Joel



--
Cheers,
  Jeff Nelson
  Muir Caileag
  C 30 - 549
  Armdale Y.C.


Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover

2022-06-20 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
Several years ago I replaced my headsail sleeve (Sunbrella material zippered 
with a crossed double line 'snugging' system and C red, white and blue 
colored bands (2) from ATN, the same company that sells the gale sail, etc.) 
for about $800. This sleeve is used to cover whatever headsail is on the fuller 
so there is only one of them which is hoisted with a spin halyard.
A bit of a pain to remove and then hoist, especially if one does not take care 
to keep the cover and snugging lines untangled on the removal. Since my 
foredeck crew handles dropping and hoisting the sleeve, they have a vested 
interest in dropping without tangles!
I have used this system for many years and will replace the sleeve when 
needed--about every 5 years.
The main issue is in a strong breeze, the material can be noisy, especially if 
the snugging system was not tightened vigorously. 
The sleeve has to be large enough to go over the rolled genoa at its widest 
point so, above and below this point, it is only as snug as the snugging system 
can be tightened. If a breeze is expected, I often wrap it tighter with the 
free spinnaker halyard by spiraling it around the sleeve. If there is a break 
in the racing/sailing schedule of several weeks or a month or more, I remove 
the sleeve and the headsail for storage below or off the boat.
YMMV and I am sure it costs more now but probably less than $1350!
Charlie NelsonWater Phantom C 36 XL/lcbNew Bern, NC





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2022-06-20 Thread John McKay via CnC-List
 I have a jib sock and it is a pain to both put on and take down but it has 
kept the jib in pretty good condition.
JohnC 33 MK II

On Monday, June 20, 2022, 09:56:27 p.m. EDT, Bob Mann via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
   Do away with the sacrificial altogether!  I bought a jib sock for my 35 in 
December 2017 for $580 from a small, local sailmaker.  A few tears in it but 
still going strong! 
   
   Bob Mann   Detroit  
  On 06/20/2022 9:45 PM Neil Andersen via CnC-List  
wrote:   
   
 I had a “stick on” sacrificial cover attached to my 150 years ago.  I was 
rounding Bloody Point on the Chesapeake in fairly strong winds when the cover 
got attached to the shrouds instead of the sail.  Not a lot of fun as we could 
only adjust our heading so much, we’re running out of “runway”, and the sail 
was basically glued to the shroud.   I will NEVER use a glue on item like that 
unless it is also sewn on as well.  
   Neil Andersen, W3NEA    Rock Hall, MD 21661   484-354-8800  From: Joel 
Aronson via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 8:28:31 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover  
 U V cover replacement is by the foot. What else did they recommend?  New 
webbing? Restitching?   
   On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 7:34 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
 wrote: 
  
  Maybe it's time for a SailRite machine!  On the other hand, isn't there some 
kind of a white sticky material you can buy and just put it on yourself? It 
sticks like the numbers or graphics. I'm pretty sure I had that on one of my 
leeches. 
 
  Bill Coleman   Entrada Erie PA 
   On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 19:08 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
 wrote: 
  
   
 
 
The UV cover on my genoa is starting to fail, so I took it to Bacons to get 
repaired. I figured 5 or 6 boat bucks maybe. Well I figured wrong, the estimate 
came back at $1350! Yikes!
 
Are they nuts or is this the going rate now? That seems like a pretty good 
chunk of an entire sail!
 
 
 
 
 
Joe Della Barba
 
Coquina C 35 MK I
 
Kent Island MD USA
 
 
 
 
   
  
  -- 
Joel 
 
 
   

Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover

2022-06-20 Thread Bob Mann via CnC-List
Do away with the sacrificial altogether!  I bought a jib sock for my 35 in 
December 2017 for $580 from a small, local sailmaker.  A few tears in it but 
still going strong!

Bob Mann
Detroit

> On 06/20/2022 9:45 PM Neil Andersen via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I had a “stick on” sacrificial cover attached to my 150 years ago.  I was 
> rounding Bloody Point on the Chesapeake in fairly strong winds when the cover 
> got attached to the shrouds instead of the sail.  Not a lot of fun as we 
> could only adjust our heading so much, we’re running out of “runway”, and the 
> sail was basically glued to the shroud.   I will NEVER use a glue on item 
> like that unless it is also sewn on as well. 
> 
> Neil Andersen, W3NEA 
> Rock Hall, MD 21661
> 484-354-8800
> 
> -
> From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 8:28:31 PM
>     To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Joel Aronson 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover
> 
> U V cover replacement is by the foot. What else did they recommend?  New 
> webbing? Restitching?
> 
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 7:34 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> 
> > > Maybe it's time for a SailRite machine!
> > On the other hand, isn't there some kind of a white sticky material 
> > you can buy and just put it on yourself? It sticks like the numbers or 
> > graphics. I'm pretty sure I had that on one of my leeches.
> > 
> > Bill Coleman
> > Entrada Erie PA 
> > 
> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 19:08 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
> > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > 
> > > > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > The UV cover on my genoa is starting to fail, so I took it to 
> > > Bacons to get repaired. I figured 5 or 6 boat bucks maybe. Well I figured 
> > > wrong, the estimate came back at $1350! Yikes!
> > > 
> > > Are they nuts or is this the going rate now? That seems like 
> > > a pretty good chunk of an entire sail!
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Joe Della Barba
> > > 
> > > Coquina C 35 MK I
> > > 
> > > Kent Island MD USA
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > --
> Joel
> 
> 


Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover

2022-06-20 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Yeow!

Bill Coleman

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 21:46 Neil Andersen via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I had a “stick on” sacrificial cover attached to my 150 years ago.  I was
> rounding Bloody Point on the Chesapeake in fairly strong winds when the
> cover got attached to the shrouds instead of the sail.  Not a lot of fun as
> we could only adjust our heading so much, we’re running out of “runway”,
> and the sail was basically glued to the shroud.   I will NEVER use a glue
> on item like that unless it is also sewn on as well.
>
> Neil Andersen, W3NEA
> Rock Hall, MD 21661
> 484-354-8800
> --
> *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Monday, June 20, 2022 8:28:31 PM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* Joel Aronson 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover
>
> U V cover replacement is by the foot. What else did they recommend?  New
> webbing? Restitching?
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 7:34 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Maybe it's time for a SailRite machine!
> On the other hand, isn't there some kind of a white sticky material you
> can buy and just put it on yourself? It sticks like the numbers or
> graphics. I'm pretty sure I had that on one of my leeches.
>
> Bill Coleman
> Entrada Erie PA
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 19:08 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> The UV cover on my genoa is starting to fail, so I took it to Bacons to
> get repaired. I figured 5 or 6 boat bucks maybe. Well I figured wrong, the
> estimate came back at $1350! Yikes!
>
> Are they nuts or is this the going rate now? That seems like a pretty good
> chunk of an entire sail!
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina C 35 MK I
>
> Kent Island MD USA
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Joel
>
>


Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover

2022-06-20 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List
I had a “stick on” sacrificial cover attached to my 150 years ago.  I was 
rounding Bloody Point on the Chesapeake in fairly strong winds when the cover 
got attached to the shrouds instead of the sail.  Not a lot of fun as we could 
only adjust our heading so much, we’re running out of “runway”, and the sail 
was basically glued to the shroud.   I will NEVER use a glue on item like that 
unless it is also sewn on as well.

Neil Andersen, W3NEA
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 8:28:31 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover

U V cover replacement is by the foot. What else did they recommend?  New 
webbing? Restitching?

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 7:34 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Maybe it's time for a SailRite machine!
On the other hand, isn't there some kind of a white sticky material you can buy 
and just put it on yourself? It sticks like the numbers or graphics. I'm pretty 
sure I had that on one of my leeches.

Bill Coleman
Entrada Erie PA

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 19:08 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:



The UV cover on my genoa is starting to fail, so I took it to Bacons to get 
repaired. I figured 5 or 6 boat bucks maybe. Well I figured wrong, the estimate 
came back at $1350! Yikes!

Are they nuts or is this the going rate now? That seems like a pretty good 
chunk of an entire sail!





Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA





--
Joel



Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover

2022-06-20 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
U V cover replacement is by the foot. What else did they recommend?  New
webbing? Restitching?

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 7:34 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Maybe it's time for a SailRite machine!
> On the other hand, isn't there some kind of a white sticky material you
> can buy and just put it on yourself? It sticks like the numbers or
> graphics. I'm pretty sure I had that on one of my leeches.
>
> Bill Coleman
> Entrada Erie PA
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 19:08 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> The UV cover on my genoa is starting to fail, so I took it to Bacons to
>> get repaired. I figured 5 or 6 boat bucks maybe. Well I figured wrong, the
>> estimate came back at $1350! Yikes!
>>
>> Are they nuts or is this the going rate now? That seems like a pretty
>> good chunk of an entire sail!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe Della Barba
>>
>> Coquina C 35 MK I
>>
>> Kent Island MD USA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
Joel


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2022-06-20 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List
Gorilla Tape is very useful for sail repair.

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From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: June 20, 2022 7:33 PM
To: Stus-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Bill Coleman<mailto:colt...@gmail.com>
Subject: Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover

Maybe it's time for a SailRite machine!
On the other hand, isn't there some kind of a white sticky material you can buy 
and just put it on yourself? It sticks like the numbers or graphics. I'm pretty 
sure I had that on one of my leeches.
Bill Coleman
Entrada Erie PA

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 19:08 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

The UV cover on my genoa is starting to fail, so I took it to Bacons to get 
repaired. I figured 5 or 6 boat bucks maybe. Well I figured wrong, the estimate 
came back at $1350! Yikes!
Are they nuts or is this the going rate now? That seems like a pretty good 
chunk of an entire sail!


Joe Della Barba
Coquina C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA





Stus-List Re: Cost to replace UV cover

2022-06-20 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Maybe it's time for a SailRite machine!
On the other hand, isn't there some kind of a white sticky material you can
buy and just put it on yourself? It sticks like the numbers or graphics.
I'm pretty sure I had that on one of my leeches.

Bill Coleman
Entrada Erie PA

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 19:08 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
>
> The UV cover on my genoa is starting to fail, so I took it to Bacons to
> get repaired. I figured 5 or 6 boat bucks maybe. Well I figured wrong, the
> estimate came back at $1350! Yikes!
>
> Are they nuts or is this the going rate now? That seems like a pretty good
> chunk of an entire sail!
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina C 35 MK I
>
> Kent Island MD USA
>
>
>
>
>