Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

2023-06-30 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
It is going up just forward of the bulkhead aft of the stove  and then will run 
horizontal aft at the top of that storage area outboard of the icebox and then 
to the stern.

A quick test with my adapter and a one-pound grill bottle shows all is well, 
now I need to get the tank mount set up.

I REALLY should have foamed in a 1” conduit instead of trapping the old CNG 
line………..if only I had a time machine back to about 1988 or so…..”Hey DUMMY! 
You might one day want another hose in there!”

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

 

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List  
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2023 4:14 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

 

Joe,

 

Can you run under the stove then up the forward side between the stove and the 
forward half bulkhead?  I might not be visualizing accurately.

--

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 1:45 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

It FITS

Yeah!!

The side mounts are EXACTLY right. The only part that needs changing is the 
hole where the gimbal lock goes, I need to drill it about ¾” forward of where 
it is now. I am so relieved 😊

One issue I am not sure about is the sliding board that goes over the stove. I 
had to run the propane hose straight up, going besides the icebox is not 
possible because I foamed that all in about 20 years ago. That board will 
contact the hose when retracted. I have though about cutting a little half 
circle relief in it or just not using it. The cutting board from the old stove 
will work if I cut about ½” off the outboard edge and it looks nice.

Note to Force 10 owners: The sparker is very fiddly. Some voltmeter sleuthing 
uncovered the fact the battery holder cap needs to be screwed on just so or the 
negative side of the battery does not make contact. Speaking of, I bought some 
AA lithiums so I don’t have to climb under the stove and swap it out anytime 
soon.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

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-- 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

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Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

2023-06-30 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Joe,

Can you run under the stove then up the forward side between the stove and
the forward half bulkhead?  I might not be visualizing accurately.
--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 1:45 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> It FITS
>
> Yeah!!
>
> The side mounts are EXACTLY right. The only part that needs changing is
> the hole where the gimbal lock goes, I need to drill it about ¾” forward of
> where it is now. I am so relieved 😊
>
> One issue I am not sure about is the sliding board that goes over the
> stove. I had to run the propane hose straight up, going besides the icebox
> is not possible because I foamed that all in about 20 years ago. That board
> will contact the hose when retracted. I have though about cutting a little
> half circle relief in it or just not using it. The cutting board from the
> old stove will work if I cut about ½” off the outboard edge and it looks
> nice.
>
> Note to Force 10 owners: The sparker is very fiddly. Some voltmeter
> sleuthing uncovered the fact the battery holder cap needs to be screwed on
> just so or the negative side of the battery does not make contact. Speaking
> of, I bought some AA lithiums so I don’t have to climb under the stove and
> swap it out anytime soon.
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina C&C 35 MK I
>
> Kent Island MD USA
>
>
>
>
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
> help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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>


-- 
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

2023-06-30 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
It FITS

Yeah!!

The side mounts are EXACTLY right. The only part that needs changing is the 
hole where the gimbal lock goes, I need to drill it about ¾” forward of where 
it is now. I am so relieved 😊

One issue I am not sure about is the sliding board that goes over the stove. I 
had to run the propane hose straight up, going besides the icebox is not 
possible because I foamed that all in about 20 years ago. That board will 
contact the hose when retracted. I have though about cutting a little half 
circle relief in it or just not using it. The cutting board from the old stove 
will work if I cut about ½” off the outboard edge and it looks nice.

Note to Force 10 owners: The sparker is very fiddly. Some voltmeter sleuthing 
uncovered the fact the battery holder cap needs to be screwed on just so or the 
negative side of the battery does not make contact. Speaking of, I bought some 
AA lithiums so I don’t have to climb under the stove and swap it out anytime 
soon.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

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Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

2023-06-15 Thread andrew macLean via CnC-List 
I installed two #6 aluminum (tall skinny) tanks on our 30 mk1’s pushpit rails 
using the rail mount assembly from Sure Marine in Seattle. They sold us the 
tanks, rail mounts, regulator, gauge, solenoid, solenoid switch, everything 
except the hoses. One of the brackets has the regulator, gauge, and solenoid 
mounted; the other is plain to hold the spare tank (which we also use for the 
BBQ). It’s a great setup, reasonably priced, 100% would buy again. Also bought 
a long hose from Greenline who also sold a hard plastic wrap for chafe 
protection where it passes through bulkheads cabinetry and the like. Super 
simple install took an afternoon, solid, dependable, ABYC compliant, looks 
great on the boat.

 

https://www.suremarineservice.com/Galley/Propane-Railmount-Bracket-Assembly/001-749A.html

 

Happy to send photos if that’s helpful.

 

Andrew

1974 C&C 30 mk1

Gulf Islands, BC

 

From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2023 12:00 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com
Subject: Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

 

Thanks!

Also found them on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VW5DRY6/ref=twister_B09XKNX9ZG?_encoding=UTF8 
<https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VW5DRY6/ref=twister_B09XKNX9ZG?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1>
 &psc=1

That looks about perfect 😊

 

 

From: Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2023 11:48 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Doug Mountjoy mailto:svrebeccal...@gmail.com> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

 

Joe, 

Fisheries Supply carries the 1.4 gal tall thin tanks, and the fancy mount. I 
just finished converting my Sabre to propane. One thing is, only one connection 
inside the boat at the stove. I mounted the regulator and solenoid valve under 
a stern pulpit seat. Teed in a hose to the grill also. 

On my LF39 I get a few  months out of a 2.5 gallon bottle of full time use. 

Douglas Mountjoy
1988 C&C LF 39
Mexico at large
1984 Sabre 34
Port Orchard, WA


 

On Thu, Jun 15, 2023, 06:35 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I have no propane locker. I am probably going to strap a tank on the stern 
rail. I need to find those little tall and thin aluminum tanks. No way am I 
going around with a 20 pound steel grill tank hanging off there, that is too 
low budget even for me!

I may actually try a little torch tank and see how long it lasts. We do all the 
cooking we can on the outside grill anyway to not heat up the cabin.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

 

 

 

From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2023 9:24 AM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Hoyt, Mike mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

 

Hi Joe

 

What was your plan for a propane locker?  Boats with CNG systems tend not to 
have one

 

In our case CNG is easy to source but certifying the tanks is nearly impossible

 

Mike

 

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: June 15, 2023 10:15 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> >
Subject: Stus-List Force 10 Stove

 

Does the standard American size Force 10 3-burner stove fit the C&C 35 MK I?

I would assume it does, but want to check.

I am thinking of going from CNG to propane, CNG is very hard to source now in 
most places.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

DCSI

410-966-7255

 

 

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Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

2023-06-15 Thread Dave S via CnC-List 
As part of my OVNI 435 refit I purchased a new force 10 stove and retrofitted 
from camping gaz to propane.  (Cooked my first meal last night - sweltering on 
the hard in curacao). 
If you study force 10’s home page (or manual) you should be able to find  the 
10 or so ‘standard’ sizes.  (If there are 10 is it a standard?). There are euro 
and North American form factors, then within each of those, 2 or 3 burner 
(impacting cooktop depth, not width) then compact or standard (impacting oven 
height).  I bought a two burner euro standard to replace the original eno unit. 
 The owner (now ex owner) of force 10 told me that getting a standard height 
oven is a ‘game changer) when retrofitting.  Just fits.  
I bought 2 20 lb Viking tanks, made of plastic and spun fibre of some sort, 
very cool.   They were about half the chandlery price, direct from the 
manufacturer.  

Dave 33-2 Windstar (soon to be offered for sale)
Alubat OVNI 435 Sakura - (soon to be sailed!)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2023, at 3:09 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sure Marine in Seattle has everything you need. I did a similar install on 
> out 35 MK1.  Tank, bracket, t, solenoid, and custom length hose to the stove.
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/26vv7To
> 
> 
> Tom Buscaglia
> P 206.463.9200
> F 206.463.9290
> C 305.409.3660
> Skype - thombusc
> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2023, at 8:49 AM, Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Joe, 
>> Fisheries Supply carries the 1.4 gal tall thin tanks, and the fancy mount. I 
>> just finished converting my Sabre to propane. One thing is, only one 
>> connection inside the boat at the stove. I mounted the regulator and 
>> solenoid valve under a stern pulpit seat. Teed in a hose to the grill also. 
>> On my LF39 I get a few  months out of a 2.5 gallon bottle of full time use. 
>> 
>> Douglas Mountjoy
>> 1988 C&C LF 39
>> Mexico at large
>> 1984 Sabre 34
>> Port Orchard, WA
>>
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 15, 2023, 06:35 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> I have no propane locker. I am probably going to strap a tank on the stern 
>>> rail. I need to find those little tall and thin aluminum tanks. No way am I 
>>> going around with a 20 pound steel grill tank hanging off there, that is 
>>> too low budget even for me!
>>> 
>>> I may actually try a little torch tank and see how long it lasts. We do all 
>>> the cooking we can on the outside grill anyway to not heat up the cabin.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Joe Della Barba
>>> 
>>> Coquina C&C 35 MK I
>>> 
>>> Kent Island MD USA
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2023 9:24 AM
>>> To: 'Stus-List' 
>>> Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
>>> Subject: Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Hi Joe
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> What was your plan for a propane locker?  Boats with CNG systems tend not 
>>> to have one
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> In our case CNG is easy to source but certifying the tanks is nearly 
>>> impossible
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List  
>>> Sent: June 15, 2023 10:15 AM
>>> To: Stus-List 
>>> Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
>>> Subject: Stus-List Force 10 Stove
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Does the standard American size Force 10 3-burner stove fit the C&C 35 MK I?
>>> 
>>> I would assume it does, but want to check.
>>> 
>>> I am thinking of going from CNG to propane, CNG is very hard to source now 
>>> in most places.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Joe Della Barba
>>> 
>>> DCSI
>>> 
>>> 410-966-7255
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and 
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Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

2023-06-15 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
Sure Marine in Seattle has everything you need. I did a similar install on out 35 MK1.  Tank, bracket, t, solenoid, and custom length hose to the stove.https://flic.kr/p/26vv7ToTom BuscagliaP 206.463.9200F 206.463.9290C 305.409.3660Skype - thombuscOn Jun 15, 2023, at 8:49 AM, Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List  wrote:Joe, Fisheries Supply carries the 1.4 gal tall thin tanks, and the fancy mount. I just finished converting my Sabre to propane. One thing is, only one connection inside the boat at the stove. I mounted the regulator and solenoid valve under a stern pulpit seat. Teed in a hose to the grill also. On my LF39 I get a few  months out of a 2.5 gallon bottle of full time use. Douglas Mountjoy1988 C&C LF 39Mexico at large1984 Sabre 34Port Orchard, WA    On Thu, Jun 15, 2023, 06:35 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:I have no propane locker. I am probably going to strap a tank on the stern rail. I need to find those little tall and thin aluminum tanks. No way am I going around with a 20 pound steel grill tank hanging off there, that is too low budget even for me!I may actually try a little torch tank and see how long it lasts. We do all the cooking we can on the outside grill anyway to not heat up the cabin.  Joe Della BarbaCoquina C&C 35 MK IKent Island MD USA From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2023 9:24 AMTo: 'Stus-List' <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>Cc: Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com>Subject: Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove Hi Joe What was your plan for a propane locker?  Boats with CNG systems tend not to have one In our case CNG is easy to source but certifying the tanks is nearly impossible Mike From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: June 15, 2023 10:15 AMTo: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>Cc: Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>Subject: Stus-List Force 10 Stove Does the standard American size Force 10 3-burner stove fit the C&C 35 MK I?I would assume it does, but want to check.I am thinking of going from CNG to propane, CNG is very hard to source now in most places.  Joe Della BarbaDCSI410-966-7255  Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

2023-06-15 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
Thanks!

Also found them on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VW5DRY6/ref=twister_B09XKNX9ZG?_encoding=UTF8 
<https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VW5DRY6/ref=twister_B09XKNX9ZG?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1>
 &psc=1

That looks about perfect 😊

 

 

From: Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2023 11:48 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Doug Mountjoy 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

 

Joe, 

Fisheries Supply carries the 1.4 gal tall thin tanks, and the fancy mount. I 
just finished converting my Sabre to propane. One thing is, only one connection 
inside the boat at the stove. I mounted the regulator and solenoid valve under 
a stern pulpit seat. Teed in a hose to the grill also. 

On my LF39 I get a few  months out of a 2.5 gallon bottle of full time use. 

Douglas Mountjoy
1988 C&C LF 39
Mexico at large
1984 Sabre 34
Port Orchard, WA


 

On Thu, Jun 15, 2023, 06:35 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I have no propane locker. I am probably going to strap a tank on the stern 
rail. I need to find those little tall and thin aluminum tanks. No way am I 
going around with a 20 pound steel grill tank hanging off there, that is too 
low budget even for me!

I may actually try a little torch tank and see how long it lasts. We do all the 
cooking we can on the outside grill anyway to not heat up the cabin.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

 

 

 

From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2023 9:24 AM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Hoyt, Mike mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

 

Hi Joe

 

What was your plan for a propane locker?  Boats with CNG systems tend not to 
have one

 

In our case CNG is easy to source but certifying the tanks is nearly impossible

 

Mike

 

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: June 15, 2023 10:15 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> >
Subject: Stus-List Force 10 Stove

 

Does the standard American size Force 10 3-burner stove fit the C&C 35 MK I?

I would assume it does, but want to check.

I am thinking of going from CNG to propane, CNG is very hard to source now in 
most places.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

DCSI

410-966-7255

 

 

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Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

2023-06-15 Thread Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List 
Joe,
Fisheries Supply carries the 1.4 gal tall thin tanks, and the fancy mount.
I just finished converting my Sabre to propane. One thing is, only one
connection inside the boat at the stove. I mounted the regulator and
solenoid valve under a stern pulpit seat. Teed in a hose to the grill also.
On my LF39 I get a few  months out of a 2.5 gallon bottle of full time use.

Douglas Mountjoy
1988 C&C LF 39
Mexico at large
1984 Sabre 34
Port Orchard, WA


On Thu, Jun 15, 2023, 06:35 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have no propane locker. I am probably going to strap a tank on the stern
> rail. I need to find those little tall and thin aluminum tanks. No way am I
> going around with a 20 pound steel grill tank hanging off there, that is
> too low budget even for me!
>
> I may actually try a little torch tank and see how long it lasts. We do
> all the cooking we can on the outside grill anyway to not heat up the cabin.
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina C&C 35 MK I
>
> Kent Island MD USA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 15, 2023 9:24 AM
> *To:* 'Stus-List' 
> *Cc:* Hoyt, Mike 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove
>
>
>
> Hi Joe
>
>
>
> What was your plan for a propane locker?  Boats with CNG systems tend not
> to have one
>
>
>
> In our case CNG is easy to source but certifying the tanks is nearly
> impossible
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> *From:* Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* June 15, 2023 10:15 AM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* Della Barba, Joe 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Force 10 Stove
>
>
>
> Does the standard American size Force 10 3-burner stove fit the C&C 35 MK
> I?
>
> I would assume it does, but want to check.
>
> I am thinking of going from CNG to propane, CNG is very hard to source now
> in most places.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba*
>
> *DCSI*
>
> *410-966-7255*
>
>
>
>
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
> help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

2023-06-15 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
One other comment about CNG

Ours has two regulators and then the solenoid valve.

In 2021 we noted that leaving the tank valve opened for any amount of time 
allowed the tank to empty.  This was very concerning.  We replaced the first 
cut regulator (that steps down from 3000psi to about 100+), the second cut 
regulator (from 150 to whatever the stove expects) and also
the solenoid and all hoses.

My gas tech showed me a photo afterward of the insides of our original first 
cut regulator.  It was simply a pile of rust – the diaphrams, etc… has 
completely corroded away.  The gas would pas to the second cut regulator and 
onto the stove and the excess pressure went to the overboard discharge safety 
vent.

These regulators where installed in 1987 and exposed to a salt water 
environment their entire life.

Now that it is all new and safe and certified we of course have not used it in 
over a year ….

Mike Hoyt
Persistence
Halifax, NS

From: Richard Bush via CnC-List 
Sent: June 15, 2023 10:44 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov; Richard Bush 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

Joe, I feel your pain!: My insurance Co. (BoatUS-Geico) made me remove my CNG 
tank because it wasn't in a dedicated locker...we don't cook onboard much so it 
wasn't a big deal, but I wasn't happy about it; the regs allow a CNG tank under 
100 cubic feet;  you will be better off with propane;

Richard
s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584


Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220
(502) 584-7255


-Original Message-
From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Sent: Thu, Jun 15, 2023 9:15 am
Subject: Stus-List Force 10 Stove
Does the standard American size Force 10 3-burner stove fit the C&C 35 MK I?
I would assume it does, but want to check.
I am thinking of going from CNG to propane, CNG is very hard to source now in 
most places.


Joe Della Barba
DCSI
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Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

2023-06-15 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List 
 Joe, I feel your pain!: My insurance Co. (BoatUS-Geico) made me remove my CNG 
tank because it wasn't in a dedicated locker...we don't cook onboard much so it 
wasn't a big deal, but I wasn't happy about it; the regs allow a CNG tank under 
100 cubic feet;  you will be better off with propane;
 
Richard
s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584


Richard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite NineLouisville, 
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-Original Message-
From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Sent: Thu, Jun 15, 2023 9:15 am
Subject: Stus-List Force 10 Stove

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size Force 10 3-burner stove fit the C&C 35 MK I? I would assume it does, but 
want to check. I am thinking of going from CNG to propane, CNG is very hard to 
source now in most places.       Joe Della Barba DCSI 410-966-7255      Please 
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Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

2023-06-15 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
Missed the part about the cert – I got the local dive shop to send mine off for 
hydro. It came back and now it LEAKS around the valve. Drain gas, reseal valve, 
fill it again, and it still leaks ☹

I am a lot more annoyed with the wasted time back and forth than the $4 worth 
of wasted gas.  The shop is trying now for the third time but the did mention 
the tank is decades old and been in salt air the whole time.

(also my mother was like why is a bubbling tank in my swimming pool and why 
does it stink)

Joe

 

 

 

From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2023 9:24 AM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

 

Hi Joe

 

What was your plan for a propane locker?  Boats with CNG systems tend not to 
have one

 

In our case CNG is easy to source but certifying the tanks is nearly impossible

 

Mike

 

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: June 15, 2023 10:15 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> >
Subject: Stus-List Force 10 Stove

 

Does the standard American size Force 10 3-burner stove fit the C&C 35 MK I?

I would assume it does, but want to check.

I am thinking of going from CNG to propane, CNG is very hard to source now in 
most places.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

DCSI

410-966-7255

 

 

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Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

2023-06-15 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
I have no propane locker. I am probably going to strap a tank on the stern 
rail. I need to find those little tall and thin aluminum tanks. No way am I 
going around with a 20 pound steel grill tank hanging off there, that is too 
low budget even for me!

I may actually try a little torch tank and see how long it lasts. We do all the 
cooking we can on the outside grill anyway to not heat up the cabin.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

 

 

 

From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2023 9:24 AM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

 

Hi Joe

 

What was your plan for a propane locker?  Boats with CNG systems tend not to 
have one

 

In our case CNG is easy to source but certifying the tanks is nearly impossible

 

Mike

 

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: June 15, 2023 10:15 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> >
Subject: Stus-List Force 10 Stove

 

Does the standard American size Force 10 3-burner stove fit the C&C 35 MK I?

I would assume it does, but want to check.

I am thinking of going from CNG to propane, CNG is very hard to source now in 
most places.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

DCSI

410-966-7255

 

 

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Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

2023-06-15 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
My current stove clears the hatch *just barely*. Need to take a measurement or 
two!

 

From: Chris Riedinger via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2023 9:20 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Chris Riedinger 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

 

Just swapped an older force10 for a newer one in our 37/40+ 

 

I found out the tightest measurement most have is the companionway - check that 
in addition to the hole the stove needs to go into 

 

Best of luck

 

On Thu, Jun 15, 2023, 6:15 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Does the standard American size Force 10 3-burner stove fit the C&C 35 MK I?

I would assume it does, but want to check.

I am thinking of going from CNG to propane, CNG is very hard to source now in 
most places.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

DCSI

410-966-7255

 

 

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Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

2023-06-15 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
Even if it is the correct width, the pivot point may need to be moved.  Not
a big deal if you measure first.  (I didn't, so I had to wrestle the stove
twice)


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On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 9:20 AM Chris Riedinger via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Just swapped an older force10 for a newer one in our 37/40+
>
> I found out the tightest measurement most have is the companionway - check
> that in addition to the hole the stove needs to go into
>
> Best of luck
>
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2023, 6:15 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Does the standard American size Force 10 3-burner stove fit the C&C 35 MK
>> I?
>>
>> I would assume it does, but want to check.
>>
>> I am thinking of going from CNG to propane, CNG is very hard to source
>> now in most places.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Joe Della Barba*
>>
>> *DCSI*
>>
>> *410-966-7255*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
>> help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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>> Thanks for your help.
>> Stu
>
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Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

2023-06-15 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
Hi Joe

What was your plan for a propane locker?  Boats with CNG systems tend not to 
have one

In our case CNG is easy to source but certifying the tanks is nearly impossible

Mike

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
Sent: June 15, 2023 10:15 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Stus-List Force 10 Stove

Does the standard American size Force 10 3-burner stove fit the C&C 35 MK I?
I would assume it does, but want to check.
I am thinking of going from CNG to propane, CNG is very hard to source now in 
most places.


Joe Della Barba
DCSI
410-966-7255


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Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

2023-06-15 Thread Chris Riedinger via CnC-List 
Just swapped an older force10 for a newer one in our 37/40+

I found out the tightest measurement most have is the companionway - check
that in addition to the hole the stove needs to go into

Best of luck

On Thu, Jun 15, 2023, 6:15 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Does the standard American size Force 10 3-burner stove fit the C&C 35 MK
> I?
>
> I would assume it does, but want to check.
>
> I am thinking of going from CNG to propane, CNG is very hard to source now
> in most places.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba*
>
> *DCSI*
>
> *410-966-7255*
>
>
>
>
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
> help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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> Thanks for your help.
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Stus-List Re: Force 10 Stove

2023-06-15 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List 
I would assume so, but can't say for sure. Our mk2 has one and it's a great
stove.

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On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 6:15 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Does the standard American size Force 10 3-burner stove fit the C&C 35 MK
> I?
>
> I would assume it does, but want to check.
>
> I am thinking of going from CNG to propane, CNG is very hard to source now
> in most places.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba*
>
> *DCSI*
>
> *410-966-7255*
>
>
>
>
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
> help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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> Thanks for your help.
> Stu
>
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