Stus-List Re: Forward hatch gasket

[Bob Mann via CnC-List]

hahaha, the original thread was about my '71, which doesn't have glass. It's 
more of an original hatch cover made from fiberglass that covers a 2" tall lip 
all around the opening.

Bob

> On 02/19/2022 9:10 PM Andy Frame via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
>  
> Was this thread about a gasket to re-bed the hatch to the deck, or the
> seal integrated to the hatch frame that the lens makes contact with?
> 
> I must have lost track of it along the conversation, sorry.
> 
> I am in need of the gasket that the lens contacts to prevent water
> entry. The frame is watertight.
> 
> 
> --
> s/v MaryMe
> 1975 C 24
> Labelle, FL USA
> Amateur Radio WD4RCC
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com   cnc-list
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Stus-List Re: Forward hatch gasket

[Andy Frame via CnC-List]

Was this thread about a gasket to re-bed the hatch to the deck, or the
seal integrated to the hatch frame that the lens makes contact with?

I must have lost track of it along the conversation, sorry.

I am in need of the gasket that the lens contacts to prevent water
entry. The frame is watertight.


--
s/v MaryMe
1975 C 24
Labelle, FL USA
Amateur Radio WD4RCC
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Stus-List Re: Forward hatch gasket needed

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

They look like A, but a link to a picture, and this list will remove all 
doubt.

 

 

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2022 8:58 PM
To: Stus-List
Cc: Fred Hazzard
Subject: Stus-List Re: Forward hatch gasket needed

 

How can I tell the maker of the hatch’s used on my 1986 C 44?

Fred Hazzard 

S/V Fury

Portland Or. 

Sent from my iPhone





On Feb 17, 2022, at 4:17 PM, Dreuge via CnC-List  wrote:



The gaskets that A used are EPDM foam cord.   This can be purchased in 3ft, 
10ft, or 100ft lengths from McMaster-Carr at “non-marine” prices.  The 
Landfall 38 hatches use 3/8” diameter foam cord  for the small head/galley 
and 1/2” diameter cord for the larger A hatches.  For the small hatches 
which were repaired first,  I used the A recommended Silaprene Adhesive to 
glue in the gaskets.When I later replaced the gaskets for the larger A 
hatches, I used Dow 795 as the gasket adhesive.   Since I  was using the Dow 
795 for reseating a new hatch lens, I saved on gasket adhesive costs.   The Dow 
795 worked just as good if not better than the Silaprene Adhesive. I highly 
recommend Dow 795 as the gasket adhesive over the Silaprene.  One pay a premium 
for Silaprene as it is not common and very limited in availability whereas a 
10oz cartridge of Dow 795 cost $12 at McMaster-Carr. 





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Stus-List Re: Forward hatch gasket needed

[Fred Hazzard via CnC-List]

How can I tell the maker of the hatch’s used on my 1986 C 44?
Fred Hazzard 
S/V Fury
Portland Or. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 17, 2022, at 4:17 PM, Dreuge via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> The gaskets that A used are EPDM foam cord.   This can be purchased in 3ft, 
> 10ft, or 100ft lengths from McMaster-Carr at “non-marine” prices.  The 
> Landfall 38 hatches use 3/8” diameter foam cord  for the small head/galley 
> and 1/2” diameter cord for the larger A hatches.  For the small hatches 
> which were repaired first,  I used the A recommended Silaprene Adhesive to 
> glue in the gaskets.When I later replaced the gaskets for the larger A 
> hatches, I used Dow 795 as the gasket adhesive.   Since I  was using the Dow 
> 795 for reseating a new hatch lens, I saved on gasket adhesive costs.   The 
> Dow 795 worked just as good if not better than the Silaprene Adhesive. I 
> highly recommend Dow 795 as the gasket adhesive over the Silaprene.  One pay 
> a premium for Silaprene as it is not common and very limited in availability 
> whereas a 10oz cartridge of Dow 795 cost $12 at McMaster-Carr. 
> 
> Below are links to McMaster-Carr for the EPDM foam cord and Dow 795 and 2 
> links to my blog write-up for the hatch work.
> 
> https://www.mcmaster.com/gaskets/foam/ultra-weather-resistant-epdm-foam-cords/
> 
> https://www.mcmaster.com/dow-795/manufacturer~dow-corning/manufacturer-model-number~795/
> 
> 
> Write-up for replacing larger A hatch lens and gasket
>   
> https://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/2019/01/replace-atkins-hoye-hatch-lens.html
> 
> 
> Write-up for replacing the smaller A hatch lens and gasket
>   https://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/HatchWork
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Paul E.
> 1981 C Landfall 38 
> S/V Johanna Rose
> Fort Walton Beach, FL
> 
> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2022, at 6:52 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I got replacement gaskets from Hammerhead Nautical Systems...the owner used 
>> to work for A even sent me a tube a adhesive to install them at no 
>> cost. 
>> 
>> About | Hammerhead Nautical Systems (hhns.ca)
>> 
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C 32 - #277
>> Halifax, N.S.
>> 
>> On 2022-02-13 9:35 p.m., RON CASCIATO via CnC-List wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Andrew, give Hatchmasters in Norwalk,  CT. a call.
>>> It's been a few years but they have the parts and rebuilt my A hatch 
>>> nicely. 
>>> Ron C.
>>> Impromptu
>>> 38MKII, '77
>>> 
>> 
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com   cnc-list
> 
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com   cnc-list
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Stus-List Re: Forward hatch gasket needed

[Dreuge via CnC-List]

The gaskets that A used are EPDM foam cord.   This can be purchased in 3ft, 
10ft, or 100ft lengths from McMaster-Carr at “non-marine” prices.  The Landfall 
38 hatches use 3/8” diameter foam cord  for the small head/galley and 1/2” 
diameter cord for the larger A hatches.  For the small hatches which were 
repaired first,  I used the A recommended Silaprene Adhesive to glue in the 
gaskets.When I later replaced the gaskets for the larger A hatches, I 
used Dow 795 as the gasket adhesive.   Since I  was using the Dow 795 for 
reseating a new hatch lens, I saved on gasket adhesive costs.   The Dow 795 
worked just as good if not better than the Silaprene Adhesive. I highly 
recommend Dow 795 as the gasket adhesive over the Silaprene.  One pay a premium 
for Silaprene as it is not common and very limited in availability whereas a 
10oz cartridge of Dow 795 cost $12 at McMaster-Carr. 

Below are links to McMaster-Carr for the EPDM foam cord and Dow 795 and 2 links 
to my blog write-up for the hatch work.

https://www.mcmaster.com/gaskets/foam/ultra-weather-resistant-epdm-foam-cords/ 


https://www.mcmaster.com/dow-795/manufacturer~dow-corning/manufacturer-model-number~795/
 



Write-up for replacing larger A hatch lens and gasket

https://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/2019/01/replace-atkins-hoye-hatch-lens.html 



Write-up for replacing the smaller A hatch lens and gasket
https://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/HatchWork 





-
Paul E.
1981 C Landfall 38 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

> On Feb 16, 2022, at 6:52 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I got replacement gaskets from Hammerhead Nautical Systems...the owner used 
> to work for A even sent me a tube a adhesive to install them at no 
> cost. 
> 
> About | Hammerhead Nautical Systems (hhns.ca) 
> 
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - #277
> Halifax, N.S.
> 
> On 2022-02-13 9:35 p.m., RON CASCIATO via CnC-List wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew, give Hatchmasters in Norwalk,  CT. a call.
>> It's been a few years but they have the parts and rebuilt my A hatch 
>> nicely. 
>> Ron C.
>> Impromptu
>> 38MKII, '77
>> 
> 
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com   cnc-list

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Stus-List Re: Forward hatch gasket needed

[Paul Hood via CnC-List]

Hey all,

I'm thinking of flying down for 2 nights to the Miami boat show.  Anyone have a 
boat nearby which is at slip, available to lay a head down for a couple nights? 
 Not sure if I'm going yet but just looking at some options. 

Paul Hood
REFUGE - ’81 C Georgian Bay, Ontario 

Stus-List Re: Forward hatch gasket needed

[RON CASCIATO via CnC-List]

Andrew, give Hatchmasters in Norwalk,  CT. a call.It's been a few years but they have the parts and rebuilt my A hatch nicely. Ron C.Impromptu38MKII, '77On Feb 12, 2022 9:01 PM, andrew macLean via CnC-List  wrote:
Atkins and Hoyle were really marvellous helping me find parts for the nearly 50 year old hatch on our 1974 30mk1. I’d start by calling them. 



Andrew MacLean

C 30-1

Gulf Islands BC Canada



> On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:51, Bob Mann via CnC-List  wrote:

> 

> 

> The foam gasket on my C mk I's forward hatch is coming apart. Can anyone suggest where I can find a replacement?  Nothing I've seen at hardware stores even comes close to what is already there.

> 

> regards,

> Bob Mann

> Mystic

> Detroit
On Feb 12, 2022 9:01 PM, andrew macLean via CnC-List  wrote:
Atkins and Hoyle were really marvellous helping me find parts for the nearly 50 year old hatch on our 1974 30mk1. I’d start by calling them. 



Andrew MacLean

C 30-1

Gulf Islands BC Canada



> On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:51, Bob Mann via CnC-List  wrote:

> 

> 

> The foam gasket on my C mk I's forward hatch is coming apart. Can anyone suggest where I can find a replacement?  Nothing I've seen at hardware stores even comes close to what is already there.

> 

> regards,

> Bob Mann

> Mystic

> Detroit
On Feb 12, 2022 9:01 PM, andrew macLean via CnC-List  wrote:
Atkins and Hoyle were really marvellous helping me find parts for the nearly 50 year old hatch on our 1974 30mk1. I’d start by calling them. 

Andrew MacLean
C 30-1
Gulf Islands BC Canada

> On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:51, Bob Mann via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> 
> The foam gasket on my C mk I's forward hatch is coming apart. Can anyone suggest where I can find a replacement?  Nothing I've seen at hardware stores even comes close to what is already there.
> 
> regards,
> Bob Mann
> Mystic
> Detroit

Stus-List Re: Forward hatch gasket needed

[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

Test

On 2022-02-12 10:01 p.m., andrew macLean via CnC-List wrote:

Atkins and Hoyle were really marvellous helping me find parts for the nearly 50 
year old hatch on our 1974 30mk1. I’d start by calling them.

Andrew MacLean
C 30-1
Gulf Islands BC Canada


On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:51, Bob Mann via CnC-List  wrote:


The foam gasket on my C mk I's forward hatch is coming apart. Can anyone 
suggest where I can find a replacement?  Nothing I've seen at hardware stores even 
comes close to what is already there.

regards,
Bob Mann
Mystic
Detroit

Stus-List Re: Forward hatch gasket needed

[Bob Mann via CnC-List]

I checked McMaster-Carr and what they have comes in 10,20, 50 or 100 foot 
lengths, so less of an issue now.

Bob
> On 02/13/2022 11:05 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
>  
> Um.  I guess you give it away?
> 
> Bill Coleman
> Entrada, Erie PA
> 
> 
> >  
> >   The only downside is what you do with the 90+ feet of rubber you will 
> > have left over after you rebuild the hatch.
> >    
> >   Rick Brass
> >   Imzadi C 38 mk1
> >   la Belle Aurore C 25
> >   Washington, NC
> >    
> >    
> >   -Original Message-
> >   From: Stus-List
> >   Sent: Feb 12, 2022 1:51 PM
> >   To: Stus-List
> >   Cc: Bob Mann
> >   Subject: Stus-List Forward hatch gasket needed
> >    
> >    
> >   The foam gasket on my C mk I's forward hatch is coming apart. Can 
> > anyone suggest where I can find a replacement? Nothing I've seen at 
> > hardware stores even comes close to what is already there.
> >    
> >   regards,
> >   Bob Mann
> >   Mystic
> >   Detroit
> > 
> >

Stus-List Re: Forward hatch gasket needed

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Um.  I guess you give it away?

Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie PA



> The only downside is what you do with the 90+ feet of rubber you will have
> left over after you rebuild the hatch.
>
> Rick Brass
> Imzadi C 38 mk1
> la Belle Aurore C 25
> Washington, NC
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Stus-List
> Sent: Feb 12, 2022 1:51 PM
> To: Stus-List
> Cc: Bob Mann
> Subject: Stus-List Forward hatch gasket needed
>
>
> The foam gasket on my C mk I's forward hatch is coming apart. Can
> anyone suggest where I can find a replacement? Nothing I've seen at
> hardware stores even comes close to what is already there.
>
> regards,
> Bob Mann
> Mystic
> Detroit
>
>

Stus-List Re: Forward hatch gasket needed

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

When I rebuilt my A foredeck hatches (two of them now) I bought the seal 
material from a local glass shop that installs commercial plate glass windows 
like you see in stores and office buildings. I forget what the tubular rubber 
seal is actually called. But if you take a couple of inches of what you have 
into the glass shop, they can cut you a length of the great big roll they 
probably have . I can't recall if I used 3/8" diameter or 1/2". The adhesive I 
used was 3M trim adhesive that would be used to install a rubrail on a car.
 
The idea of going to McMaster Carr is also a good idea, and a lot less 
expensive that buying from A or another boat supplier. The only downside is 
what you do with the 90+ feet of rubber you will have left over after you 
rebuild the hatch.
 
Rick Brass
Imzadi C 38 mk1
la Belle Aurore C 25
Washington, NC
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Stus-List 
Sent: Feb 12, 2022 1:51 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bob Mann 
Subject: Stus-List Forward hatch gasket needed
 
 
The foam gasket on my C mk I's forward hatch is coming apart. Can anyone 
suggest where I can find a replacement? Nothing I've seen at hardware stores 
even comes close to what is already there.
 
regards,
Bob Mann
Mystic
Detroit

 

Stus-List Re: Forward hatch gasket needed

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

I purchased a roll of 3/8 in diameter foam from McMaster-Carr for that
purpose. So, I used a few feet out of 100 ft roll, but it was way cheaper
than any other option. Of course you have to find a proper adhesive. And I
cannot remember what I used.

Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie PA

On Sat, Feb 12, 2022, 14:35 Don Kern via CnC-List 
wrote:

>
> Bob
>
> Right now my fwd hatch is at Atkins & Hoyle in Canada for a full refurb.
> They should be able to help.  Brian was very accommodating, his contact
> info below.  I tried a gasket replacement from West Marine and it was a
> little too big in diameter.
>
> Brian Atkins
> Atkins & Hoyle LTD
> 180 Kimmetts side rd
> Napanee Ontario Canada K7R3L2
> Ph. (613) 354 1919
> Fx. (416) 596 8989
> www.AtkinsHoyle.com
>
> Don Kern
> *Fireball,* C Mk2
> Bristol RI
>
> On 2/12/2022 1:51 PM, Bob Mann via CnC-List wrote:
>
>
> The foam gasket on my C mk I's forward hatch is coming apart. Can anyone 
> suggest where I can find a replacement?  Nothing I've seen at hardware stores 
> even comes close to what is already there.
>
> regards,
> Bob Mann
> Mystic
> Detroit
>
>
>

Stus-List Re: Forward hatch gasket needed

[andrew macLean via CnC-List]

Atkins and Hoyle were really marvellous helping me find parts for the nearly 50 
year old hatch on our 1974 30mk1. I’d start by calling them. 

Andrew MacLean
C 30-1
Gulf Islands BC Canada

> On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:51, Bob Mann via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> The foam gasket on my C mk I's forward hatch is coming apart. Can anyone 
> suggest where I can find a replacement?  Nothing I've seen at hardware stores 
> even comes close to what is already there.
> 
> regards,
> Bob Mann
> Mystic
> Detroit

Stus-List Re: Forward hatch gasket needed

[Don Kern via CnC-List]

Bob

Right now my fwd hatch is at Atkins & Hoyle in Canada for a full 
refurb.  They should be able to help.  Brian was very accommodating, his 
contact info below.  I tried a gasket replacement from West Marine and 
it was a little too big in diameter.


Brian Atkins
Atkins & Hoyle LTD
180 Kimmetts side rd
Napanee Ontario Canada K7R3L2
Ph. (613) 354 1919
Fx. (416) 596 8989
www.AtkinsHoyle.com

Don Kern
/Fireball,/ C Mk2
Bristol RI

On 2/12/2022 1:51 PM, Bob Mann via CnC-List wrote:

The foam gasket on my C mk I's forward hatch is coming apart. Can anyone 
suggest where I can find a replacement?  Nothing I've seen at hardware stores even 
comes close to what is already there.

regards,
Bob Mann
Mystic
Detroit