Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system
FYI Two of these at my local Worst Marine marked down 75% (about $120) https://naturepowerproducts.com/products/500-watt-puresine-solar-power-gernerator/ Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I Kent Island MD USA Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Another caffeine addict/coffee snob here who uses a french press on the boat. (I dropped and broke the one from home during a boat delivery this spring.) I also have a high quality hand grinder from Japan on the boat, so no electricity required. (I do have a Krupps grinder plugged in here at home.) I got the impression when shopping for the coffee grinder that the Japanese seem to be a nation of coffee snobs. Rick Brass Imzadi CC 38 mk2 Washington, NC -Original Message- From: Stus-List Sent: Oct 17, 2023 9:54 AM To: Stus-List Cc: j...@dellabarba.com , Korbey Hunt Subject: Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system I am also a coffee snob from Seattle. 500 watts of electricity is needed for coffee grinder. Get Outlook for Android (https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg) From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2023 6:48:16 AM To: 'Stus-List' Cc: j...@dellabarba.com Subject: Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system Its French Press for us, no electricity needed. Joe Coquina From: David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2023 9:18 AM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system And then of course there are the French Press or Pour Over devices that use hot water from the stove, no electric power, and make a much superior cup of coffee (yes, I am a coffee snob). Dave S/V Aries 1990 CC 34+ New London, CT Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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I believe this, My Microwave went this summer with a big bang. I can't remember if it was at the dock or on the Inverter, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if shitty AC could have degraded it. It was a pretty nice one too. My next Inverter/Charger will be true Sine Wave. Bill Coleman On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 1:35 PM Neil Andersen via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > If you are looking at inverters, keep in mind that wattage isn’t all there > is to an inverter. Consider what you are plugging in. Coffee makers and > toasters are not particular about the quality of the output. Computers and > other devices are. The need a true sine wave, versus a modified sine > wave. An Inverter with true sine wave are more expensive, but will save > your other electronics in the long term. > > Neil Andersen, W3NEA > Former C 32 owner > Rock Hall, MD 21661 > 484-354-8800 > -- > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Thanks Neil and Joe. Much to consider. I like the invertor with auto switch built in. You are right Joe. I setup my boat as a man-cave at the dock, and racer away from the dock. I installed a 120V system with breaker panel and all circuits on Shorepower only. I figured I didn't want to add enough batteries to power the AC, so kept it shorepower only. The loads are 16000 Btu AC, Battery charger, and two receptacle circuits with TV, refrigerator, laptops, and boom box and cell charging stations. During the hot Chesapeake summer, It is very comfortable at the dock or in a marina slip. I usually drive down, start the AC, go out for dinner and the cabin is cooled down enough to get a good night's sleep. I have two) ten year old 100Ah AGMS. They will need to be replaced soon. I think September and October are the best sailing months as the days aren't so hot and the nights aren't too cool. We recently anchored out a few nights, enjoying the cooler weather and I worried about battery management and restarting the engine the next day. I do have a jump start on board as a backup, but haven't tried it. I'd like to add solar as another power source and the Jackery is plug and play and includes a 2000 Ah battery, and two briefcase style solar panels and is portable so can be used at home also. Thanks for the inverter suggestion. I'll have to look at the ventilation requirements. Thanks, Chuck > On 10/17/2023 1:38 PM EDT Neil Andersen via CnC-List > wrote: > > > I bought a 2000 watt pure sine wave: > > https://www.westmarine.com/promariner-truepower-plus-series-inverter-2000ps-19125384.html > > Neil Andersen, W3NEA > Rock Hall, MD 21661 > 484-354-8800 > > - > From: Neil Andersen > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2023 1:35:27 PM > To: Stus-List > Cc: j...@dellabarba.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system > > > If you are looking at inverters, keep in mind that wattage isn’t all there is > to an inverter. Consider what you are plugging in. Coffee makers and > toasters are not particular about the quality of the output. Computers and > other devices are. The need a true sine wave, versus a modified sine wave. > An Inverter with true sine wave are more expensive, but will save your other > electronics in the long term. > > Neil Andersen, W3NEA > Former C 32 owner > Rock Hall, MD 21661 > 484-354-8800 > > - > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help > me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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The one I linked to is pure sine wave. The one I have is not pure sine, they were quite expensive back then. Even odder is it shows 60 volts hot to ground and 60 volts neutral to ground. It has never caused an issue but for one thing - one computer power supply I have won't work with it. The GFIs still work as designed. One day I'll swap to pure sign just for the RFI reduction, the more normal grounding will be a bonus. Also note you aren't talking on the SSB with a square-wave inverter running! Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I Kent Island MD USA From: Neil Andersen Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2023 1:35 PM To: Stus-List Cc: j...@dellabarba.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system If you are looking at inverters, keep in mind that wattage isn't all there is to an inverter. Consider what you are plugging in. Coffee makers and toasters are not particular about the quality of the output. Computers and other devices are. The need a true sine wave, versus a modified sine wave. An Inverter with true sine wave are more expensive, but will save your other electronics in the long term. Neil Andersen, W3NEA Former C 32 owner Rock Hall, MD 21661 484-354-8800 _ Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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I bought a 2000 watt pure sine wave: https://www.westmarine.com/promariner-truepower-plus-series-inverter-2000ps-19125384.html Neil Andersen, W3NEA Rock Hall, MD 21661 484-354-8800 From: Neil Andersen Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2023 1:35:27 PM To: Stus-List Cc: j...@dellabarba.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system If you are looking at inverters, keep in mind that wattage isn’t all there is to an inverter. Consider what you are plugging in. Coffee makers and toasters are not particular about the quality of the output. Computers and other devices are. The need a true sine wave, versus a modified sine wave. An Inverter with true sine wave are more expensive, but will save your other electronics in the long term. Neil Andersen, W3NEA Former C 32 owner Rock Hall, MD 21661 484-354-8800 Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system
If you are looking at inverters, keep in mind that wattage isn’t all there is to an inverter. Consider what you are plugging in. Coffee makers and toasters are not particular about the quality of the output. Computers and other devices are. The need a true sine wave, versus a modified sine wave. An Inverter with true sine wave are more expensive, but will save your other electronics in the long term. Neil Andersen, W3NEA Former C 32 owner Rock Hall, MD 21661 484-354-8800 Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Can we back up a bit? Do you right now have a TV that you can only use on shore power? Maybe all you need is an inverter, they don’t cost too much. I have had a 300 watt inverter for ages and added a 1,000 watt inverter for bigger tools and the admiral’s hair dryer. The smaller one is better for charging computers, the coffee grinder, and so on. It draws about half what the big one draws at standby and is silent, the bigger one has a fan. I use this transfer switch: https://www.westmarine.com/kisae-technology-ac-transfer-switch-20a-14159982.html This is the closest equivalent to the inverter I have, mine is no longer sold. https://www.westmarine.com/kisae-technology-true-1000-pure-sine-wave-inverter-14159933.html --- >Shore Power >AC panel> 15 amp breaker>auto transfer switch>outlets. I have to physically plug and unplug to swap inverters plus the 300 watt unit has a dedicated outlet at the chart table. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I Kent Island MD USA Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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I have a Vintage Melitta percolator. Uses 900watts. Just under my 1000 watt inverter rating. I have resuscitated it several times. I like it because the pot lifts off the base. Easy to carry it out of the galley to pour. Elite Gourmet makes a similar lift off pot coffee maker that's rated at 800 watts. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Mine: https://www.wayfair.ca/dining/pdp/corona-cast-iron-corn-wheat-and-grain-mill-with-high-hopper-manual-grain-grinder-grain-mill-dvqu1010.html I didn't get it from wayfair...but have had it for a few decades. Makes short work of coffee beans in the am. Cheers, Jeff Nelson Muir Caileag C 30 - 549 Armdale Y.C. On 2023-10-17 10:58, Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List wrote: Hand grinder for me. https://www.amazon.com/QIYUEXES-Manual-Grinder-Ceramic-Espresso/dp/B0BPLKP4PF/ref=mp_s_a_1_16_maf_1?crid=UN7K7U7GNCB2=coffee+grinder=1697551008=coffee+%2Caps%2C183=8-16 <https://www.amazon.com/QIYUEXES-Manual-Grinder-Ceramic-Espresso/dp/B0BPLKP4PF/ref=mp_s_a_1_16_maf_1?crid=UN7K7U7GNCB2=coffee+grinder=1697551008=coffee+%2Caps%2C183=8-16> Consistent grind every time. Douglas Mountjoy 1988 C LF 39 Mexico at large 1984 Sabre 34 Port Orchard, WA On Tue, Oct 17, 2023, 06:54 Korbey Hunt via CnC-List wrote: I am also a coffee snob from Seattle. 500 watts of electricity is needed for coffee grinder. Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> *From:* Joe Della Barba via CnC-List *Sent:* Tuesday, October 17, 2023 6:48:16 AM *To:* 'Stus-List' *Cc:* j...@dellabarba.com *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system Its French Press for us, no electricity needed. Joe Coquina *From:* David Knecht via CnC-List *Sent:* Tuesday, October 17, 2023 9:18 AM *To:* CnC CnC discussion list *Cc:* David Knecht *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system And then of course there are the French Press or Pour Over devices that use hot water from the stove, no electric power, and make a much superior cup of coffee (yes, I am a coffee snob). Dave S/V Aries 1990 C 34+ New London, CT Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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I'm a traditionalist, I hand grind the coffee... :-) That said, you would think that dewalt or Milwaukee would have made a coffee grinder that fits their tool batteries... Cheers, Jeff Nelson Muir Caileag C 30 - 549 Armdale Y.C. On 2023-10-17 10:54, Korbey Hunt via CnC-List wrote: I am also a coffee snob from Seattle. 500 watts of electricity is needed for coffee grinder. Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> *From:* Joe Della Barba via CnC-List *Sent:* Tuesday, October 17, 2023 6:48:16 AM *To:* 'Stus-List' *Cc:* j...@dellabarba.com *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system Its French Press for us, no electricity needed. Joe Coquina *From:* David Knecht via CnC-List *Sent:* Tuesday, October 17, 2023 9:18 AM *To:* CnC CnC discussion list *Cc:* David Knecht *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system And then of course there are the French Press or Pour Over devices that use hot water from the stove, no electric power, and make a much superior cup of coffee (yes, I am a coffee snob). Dave S/V Aries 1990 C 34+ New London, CT Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Watt-hours is amp-hours X volts. My house battery is 180 amp hours and 12 volts, so it is 2,160 watt-hours. Practically using more than about 1100 of that at once is very hard on the battery. A lithium battery can do 80% cycles no problem, so that would give you an effective 1700 or so watt-hours from the same size battery. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I Kent Island MD USA From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2023 8:36 AM To: 'Stus-List' Cc: Hoyt, Mike Subject: Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system And almost every coffee pot and definitely every Keurig use at least 1400 watts and up to 1600 for Keurig. If anyone is interested at all in that I did find a single cup coffee maker that uses Keurig pods and consumes only 800 watts (I was dumb enough to buy a 1200 watt inverter/generator for the RV) We have recently acquired a Bluetti AC200Max which has a 30 AMP outlet as well as 4 20amp outlets. It provides 2100 watt hours (whatever those are). We can plug the RV in to it and it powers everything. It is even able to power the Air conditioner but only for short periods. During Hurricane Lee we plugged our house into it (6 circuit generator panel) and had lights, refrigerator, internet etc for the late evening and overnight Mike Hoyt Persistence Halifax, NS From: Korbey Hunt via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 9:19 PM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: j...@dellabarba.com <mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> ; CHARLES SCHEAFFER mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net> >; Korbey Hunt mailto:kampf2...@hotmail.com> > Subject: Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system A decent microwave will require a 2,000 watt inverter. Get Outlook for Android From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 2: 19: 04 PM To: Stus-List Cc: joe@ dellabarba. com A decent microwave will require a 2,000 watt inverter. Get Outlook for Android <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/aka.ms/AAb9ysg__;!!CmXilJi6!eX6Vw6JHQiuml7eDR8I6Mlb3qucveN3XGKmX6KHs2aeFOBl_KatMoOor3lYFgUSzKL7cW5tSqfem2CXx-11nzA$> _ From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 2:19:04 PM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: j...@dellabarba.com <mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> >; CHARLES SCHEAFFER mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net> > Subject: Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system I appreciate the feedback. We still enjoy TV at the dock and it's built in DVD player allows us to borrow movies from the library or rewatch old favorites like Hornblower, Wackiest Ship in the Army, Houseboat, Two For the Road, Wind, etc. The attraction of the Jackery is portability and it plugs right into my shore power inlet so all the 120v outlets can be powered. It's easily removed from the boat and could backup my house during hurricane season, or taken camping. If you price out a 2000 watt invertor and batteries for it and 400 watt solar panels and a battery monitoring system, I would think it would get more expensive and more labor intensive, wiring all that together. I would prefer a stand alone system that can be used when needed, and not something permanently mounted. $1700 may seem like a lot of money, but the system would allow me to run a microwave or a hair dryer and provides another way to charge batteries when on the hook. It would be removed from the boat for racing, removing all that weight. I haven't bought one yet. I'm still considering options. Chuck S On 10/16/2023 4:04 PM EDT Joe Della Barba via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: We watch TV on the laptop, or if I somehow forget to bring it then the iPad from the chart table. I cannot recall using a physical DVD in years, but my laptop can play them if needed. As far an actual TV goes, there are two issues: 1. Powering it. Inverters are not all that expensive. 2. Storing power – I would add batteries for the whole boat instead of just for a TV. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I Kent Island MD USA From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 3:41 PM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Marek Dziedzic mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com> > Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Jackery solar system There are, out there, 12 V TVs. They might be more expensive than the normal (120 V) ones, but not $1000 more expensive. Also, do you need a TV or just a screen (monitor)? They are even easier to get in 12 V version. Marek From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 9:07 PM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Della Barba, J
Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system
Hand grinder for me. https://www.amazon.com/QIYUEXES-Manual-Grinder-Ceramic-Espresso/dp/B0BPLKP4PF/ref=mp_s_a_1_16_maf_1?crid=UN7K7U7GNCB2=coffee+grinder=1697551008=coffee+%2Caps%2C183=8-16 Consistent grind every time. Douglas Mountjoy 1988 C LF 39 Mexico at large 1984 Sabre 34 Port Orchard, WA On Tue, Oct 17, 2023, 06:54 Korbey Hunt via CnC-List wrote: > I am also a coffee snob from Seattle. 500 watts of electricity is needed > for coffee grinder. > > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> > -- > *From:* Joe Della Barba via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 17, 2023 6:48:16 AM > *To:* 'Stus-List' > *Cc:* j...@dellabarba.com > *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system > > > Its French Press for us, no electricity needed. > > Joe > > Coquina > > > > *From:* David Knecht via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 17, 2023 9:18 AM > *To:* CnC CnC discussion list > *Cc:* David Knecht > *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system > > > > And then of course there are the French Press or Pour Over devices that > use hot water from the stove, no electric power, and make a much superior > cup of coffee (yes, I am a coffee snob). Dave > > > > S/V Aries > > 1990 C 34+ > > New London, CT > > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Stove top perculator for me. With a filter, very little water needed to clean. Douglas Mountjoy 1988 C LF 39 Mexico at large 1984 Sabre 34 Port Orchard, WA On Tue, Oct 17, 2023, 06:48 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Its French Press for us, no electricity needed. > > Joe > > Coquina > > > > *From:* David Knecht via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 17, 2023 9:18 AM > *To:* CnC CnC discussion list > *Cc:* David Knecht > *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system > > > > And then of course there are the French Press or Pour Over devices that > use hot water from the stove, no electric power, and make a much superior > cup of coffee (yes, I am a coffee snob). Dave > > > > S/V Aries > > 1990 C 34+ > > New London, CT > > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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I am also a coffee snob from Seattle. 500 watts of electricity is needed for coffee grinder. Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2023 6:48:16 AM To: 'Stus-List' Cc: j...@dellabarba.com Subject: Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system Its French Press for us, no electricity needed. Joe Coquina From: David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2023 9:18 AM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system And then of course there are the French Press or Pour Over devices that use hot water from the stove, no electric power, and make a much superior cup of coffee (yes, I am a coffee snob). Dave S/V Aries 1990 C 34+ New London, CT Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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And percolators (my fave) or stove top espresso makers, both make excellent coffee. Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2023 6:48:16 AM To: 'Stus-List' Cc: j...@dellabarba.com Subject: Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system Its French Press for us, no electricity needed. Joe Coquina From: David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2023 9:18 AM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system And then of course there are the French Press or Pour Over devices that use hot water from the stove, no electric power, and make a much superior cup of coffee (yes, I am a coffee snob). Dave S/V Aries 1990 C 34+ New London, CT Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Its French Press for us, no electricity needed. Joe Coquina From: David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2023 9:18 AM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system And then of course there are the French Press or Pour Over devices that use hot water from the stove, no electric power, and make a much superior cup of coffee (yes, I am a coffee snob). Dave S/V Aries 1990 C 34+ New London, CT Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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And then of course there are the French Press or Pour Over devices that use hot water from the stove, no electric power, and make a much superior cup of coffee (yes, I am a coffee snob). Dave S/V Aries 1990 C 34+ New London, CT Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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And almost every coffee pot and definitely every Keurig use at least 1400 watts and up to 1600 for Keurig. If anyone is interested at all in that I did find a single cup coffee maker that uses Keurig pods and consumes only 800 watts (I was dumb enough to buy a 1200 watt inverter/generator for the RV) We have recently acquired a Bluetti AC200Max which has a 30 AMP outlet as well as 4 20amp outlets. It provides 2100 watt hours (whatever those are). We can plug the RV in to it and it powers everything. It is even able to power the Air conditioner but only for short periods. During Hurricane Lee we plugged our house into it (6 circuit generator panel) and had lights, refrigerator, internet etc for the late evening and overnight Mike Hoyt Persistence Halifax, NS From: Korbey Hunt via CnC-List Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 9:19 PM To: Stus-List Cc: j...@dellabarba.com; CHARLES SCHEAFFER ; Korbey Hunt Subject: Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system A decent microwave will require a 2,000 watt inverter. Get Outlook for Android From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 2: 19: 04 PM To: Stus-List Cc: joe@ dellabarba. com A decent microwave will require a 2,000 watt inverter. Get Outlook for Android<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/aka.ms/AAb9ysg__;!!CmXilJi6!eX6Vw6JHQiuml7eDR8I6Mlb3qucveN3XGKmX6KHs2aeFOBl_KatMoOor3lYFgUSzKL7cW5tSqfem2CXx-11nzA$> From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 2:19:04 PM To: Stus-List Cc: j...@dellabarba.com ; CHARLES SCHEAFFER Subject: Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system I appreciate the feedback. We still enjoy TV at the dock and it's built in DVD player allows us to borrow movies from the library or rewatch old favorites like Hornblower, Wackiest Ship in the Army, Houseboat, Two For the Road, Wind, etc. The attraction of the Jackery is portability and it plugs right into my shore power inlet so all the 120v outlets can be powered. It's easily removed from the boat and could backup my house during hurricane season, or taken camping. If you price out a 2000 watt invertor and batteries for it and 400 watt solar panels and a battery monitoring system, I would think it would get more expensive and more labor intensive, wiring all that together. I would prefer a stand alone system that can be used when needed, and not something permanently mounted. $1700 may seem like a lot of money, but the system would allow me to run a microwave or a hair dryer and provides another way to charge batteries when on the hook. It would be removed from the boat for racing, removing all that weight. I haven't bought one yet. I'm still considering options. Chuck S On 10/16/2023 4:04 PM EDT Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote: We watch TV on the laptop, or if I somehow forget to bring it then the iPad from the chart table. I cannot recall using a physical DVD in years, but my laptop can play them if needed. As far an actual TV goes, there are two issues: 1. Powering it. Inverters are not all that expensive. 2. Storing power – I would add batteries for the whole boat instead of just for a TV. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I Kent Island MD USA From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 3:41 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Marek Dziedzic Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Jackery solar system There are, out there, 12 V TVs. They might be more expensive than the normal (120 V) ones, but not $1000 more expensive. Also, do you need a TV or just a screen (monitor)? They are even easier to get in 12 V version. Marek From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 9:07 PM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>> Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Jackery solar system I have a 300 watt and 1200 inverter hard-wired to the boat systems as well as solar. I keep thinking there must be a better way to watch TV then spend $1800. If it were me, I would probably spend the money on improving the boat systems overall vs. a dedicated TV battery. Joe Coquina From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 1:45 PM To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Jackery solar system Looking for a way to power my TV and DVD and 120v sockets while at anchor. I'm looking at getting a Jackery solar system for my boat. I like the "2000 plus" cause it has a 30amp socket that accepts my shorepower cord and comes with two 200Watt folding solar panels. $1800 but cheaper and less labor than installing a Lithium battery system with solar panels. Anybody have experience with these devices? Chuck Resolute 1989 C, A
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The value proposition changes a bit if you use it for other things like power outages, camping, other boats, and so on. If you have multiple uses for it, it starts making more sense. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I Kent Island MD USA From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 5:19 PM To: Stus-List Cc: j...@dellabarba.com; CHARLES SCHEAFFER Subject: Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system I appreciate the feedback. We still enjoy TV at the dock and it's built in DVD player allows us to borrow movies from the library or rewatch old favorites like Hornblower, Wackiest Ship in the Army, Houseboat, Two For the Road, Wind, etc. The attraction of the Jackery is portability and it plugs right into my shore power inlet so all the 120v outlets can be powered. It's easily removed from the boat and could backup my house during hurricane season, or taken camping. If you price out a 2000 watt invertor and batteries for it and 400 watt solar panels and a battery monitoring system, I would think it would get more expensive and more labor intensive, wiring all that together. I would prefer a stand alone system that can be used when needed, and not something permanently mounted. $1700 may seem like a lot of money, but the system would allow me to run a microwave or a hair dryer and provides another way to charge batteries when on the hook. It would be removed from the boat for racing, removing all that weight. I haven't bought one yet. I'm still considering options. Chuck S On 10/16/2023 4:04 PM EDT Joe Della Barba via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: We watch TV on the laptop, or if I somehow forget to bring it then the iPad from the chart table. I cannot recall using a physical DVD in years, but my laptop can play them if needed. As far an actual TV goes, there are two issues: 1. Powering it. Inverters are not all that expensive. 2. Storing power – I would add batteries for the whole boat instead of just for a TV. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I Kent Island MD USA From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 3:41 PM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Marek Dziedzic mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com> > Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Jackery solar system There are, out there, 12 V TVs. They might be more expensive than the normal (120 V) ones, but not $1000 more expensive. Also, do you need a TV or just a screen (monitor)? They are even easier to get in 12 V version. Marek From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 9:07 PM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> > Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Jackery solar system I have a 300 watt and 1200 inverter hard-wired to the boat systems as well as solar. I keep thinking there must be a better way to watch TV then spend $1800. If it were me, I would probably spend the money on improving the boat systems overall vs. a dedicated TV battery. Joe Coquina From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 1:45 PM To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Jackery solar system Looking for a way to power my TV and DVD and 120v sockets while at anchor. I'm looking at getting a Jackery solar system for my boat. I like the "2000 plus" cause it has a 30amp socket that accepts my shorepower cord and comes with two 200Watt folding solar panels. $1800 but cheaper and less labor than installing a Lithium battery system with solar panels. Anybody have experience with these devices? Chuck Resolute 1989 C, Annapolis Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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A decent microwave will require a 2,000 watt inverter. Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 2:19:04 PM To: Stus-List Cc: j...@dellabarba.com ; CHARLES SCHEAFFER Subject: Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system I appreciate the feedback. We still enjoy TV at the dock and it's built in DVD player allows us to borrow movies from the library or rewatch old favorites like Hornblower, Wackiest Ship in the Army, Houseboat, Two For the Road, Wind, etc. The attraction of the Jackery is portability and it plugs right into my shore power inlet so all the 120v outlets can be powered. It's easily removed from the boat and could backup my house during hurricane season, or taken camping. If you price out a 2000 watt invertor and batteries for it and 400 watt solar panels and a battery monitoring system, I would think it would get more expensive and more labor intensive, wiring all that together. I would prefer a stand alone system that can be used when needed, and not something permanently mounted. $1700 may seem like a lot of money, but the system would allow me to run a microwave or a hair dryer and provides another way to charge batteries when on the hook. It would be removed from the boat for racing, removing all that weight. I haven't bought one yet. I'm still considering options. Chuck S On 10/16/2023 4:04 PM EDT Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote: We watch TV on the laptop, or if I somehow forget to bring it then the iPad from the chart table. I cannot recall using a physical DVD in years, but my laptop can play them if needed. As far an actual TV goes, there are two issues: 1. Powering it. Inverters are not all that expensive. 2. Storing power – I would add batteries for the whole boat instead of just for a TV. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I Kent Island MD USA From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 3:41 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Marek Dziedzic Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Jackery solar system There are, out there, 12 V TVs. They might be more expensive than the normal (120 V) ones, but not $1000 more expensive. Also, do you need a TV or just a screen (monitor)? They are even easier to get in 12 V version. Marek From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 9:07 PM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>> Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Jackery solar system I have a 300 watt and 1200 inverter hard-wired to the boat systems as well as solar. I keep thinking there must be a better way to watch TV then spend $1800. If it were me, I would probably spend the money on improving the boat systems overall vs. a dedicated TV battery. Joe Coquina From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 1:45 PM To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Jackery solar system Looking for a way to power my TV and DVD and 120v sockets while at anchor. I'm looking at getting a Jackery solar system for my boat. I like the "2000 plus" cause it has a 30amp socket that accepts my shorepower cord and comes with two 200Watt folding solar panels. $1800 but cheaper and less labor than installing a Lithium battery system with solar panels. Anybody have experience with these devices? Chuck Resolute 1989 C, Annapolis Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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I appreciate the feedback. We still enjoy TV at the dock and it's built in DVD player allows us to borrow movies from the library or rewatch old favorites like Hornblower, Wackiest Ship in the Army, Houseboat, Two For the Road, Wind, etc. The attraction of the Jackery is portability and it plugs right into my shore power inlet so all the 120v outlets can be powered. It's easily removed from the boat and could backup my house during hurricane season, or taken camping. If you price out a 2000 watt invertor and batteries for it and 400 watt solar panels and a battery monitoring system, I would think it would get more expensive and more labor intensive, wiring all that together. I would prefer a stand alone system that can be used when needed, and not something permanently mounted. $1700 may seem like a lot of money, but the system would allow me to run a microwave or a hair dryer and provides another way to charge batteries when on the hook. It would be removed from the boat for racing, removing all that weight. I haven't bought one yet. I'm still considering options. Chuck S > On 10/16/2023 4:04 PM EDT Joe Della Barba via CnC-List > wrote: > > > > We watch TV on the laptop, or if I somehow forget to bring it then the iPad > from the chart table. I cannot recall using a physical DVD in years, but my > laptop can play them if needed. > > As far an actual TV goes, there are two issues: > > 1. Powering it. Inverters are not all that expensive. > 2. Storing power – I would add batteries for the whole boat instead of just > for a TV. > > > > > > > > Joe Della Barba > > Coquina C 35 MK I > > Kent Island MD USA > > > > > > > > From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 3:41 PM > To: Stus-List > Cc: Marek Dziedzic > Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Jackery solar system > > > > There are, out there, 12 V TVs. They might be more expensive than the normal > (120 V) ones, but not $1000 more expensive. Also, do you need a TV or just a > screen (monitor)? They are even easier to get in 12 V version. > > > > Marek > > > > From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 9:07 PM > To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> > Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Jackery solar system > > > > I have a 300 watt and 1200 inverter hard-wired to the boat systems as well as > solar. > > I keep thinking there must be a better way to watch TV then spend $1800. If > it were me, I would probably spend the money on improving the boat systems > overall vs. a dedicated TV battery. > > Joe > > Coquina > > > > From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 1:45 PM > To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Jackery solar system > > > > Looking for a way to power my TV and DVD and 120v sockets while at anchor. > > I'm looking at getting a Jackery solar system for my boat. > > I like the "2000 plus" cause it has a 30amp socket that accepts my shorepower > cord and comes with two 200Watt folding solar panels. $1800 but cheaper and > less labor than installing a Lithium battery system with solar panels. > > > > Anybody have experience with these devices? > > > > Chuck Resolute 1989 C, Annapolis > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help > me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Kevin: Marine Starlink or the less expensive portable one? Matt From: Kevin Wright via CnC-List Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 2:24 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Kevin Wright Subject: Stus-List Re: Jackery solar system Hi Chuck, I have a Bluetti AC200P and 400W of solar on our enclosure. works great, we work from the boat in the summer with starlink. If you want more info let me know. Kevin Wright Raven Landfall 43 Midland ON On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 1:45 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: Looking for a way to power my TV and DVD and 120v sockets while at anchor. I'm looking at getting a Jackery solar system for my boat. I like the "2000 plus" cause it has a 30amp socket that accepts my shorepower cord and comes with two 200Watt folding solar panels. $1800 but cheaper and less labor than installing a Lithium battery system with solar panels. Anybody have experience with these devices? Chuck Resolute 1989 C, Annapolis Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Hi Chuck, I have a Bluetti AC200P and 400W of solar on our enclosure. works great, we work from the boat in the summer with starlink. If you want more info let me know. *Kevin Wright* *Raven* Landfall 43 Midland ON On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 1:45 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Looking for a way to power my TV and DVD and 120v sockets while at > anchor. > I'm looking at getting a Jackery solar system for my boat. > I like the "2000 plus" cause it has a 30amp socket that accepts my > shorepower cord and comes with two 200Watt folding solar panels. $1800 > but cheaper and less labor than installing a Lithium battery system with > solar panels. > > Anybody have experience with these devices? > > Chuck Resolute 1989 C, Annapolis > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu