Stus-List Re: Sail costs

[Randal Stafford via CnC-List]

Hey Chuck,

I paid ~$2K for a new Genoa a year ago.  Sailmaker is Hyde (I also have a Hyde 
main, ~3 years old).  It’s a basic Dacron sail, designed for furling, with UV 
strip.  I chose a weight good to 20 kts.  A local guy measured for it and 
ordered it for me.

Cheers,
Randy

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> On Mar 18, 2023, at 9:54 AM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Sail costs:  A new light air genoa was quoted at $5200 for my 36 footer, so I 
> decided instead to have repairs made to my old sails.   They repaired my #2 
> for $700.  They will alter my #3 for a little more.  They are removing 
> horizontal battens and installing vertical battens, and adding UV, so it can 
> be furled.  I've chosen to use Chesapeake Sailmakers because they are service 
> oriented, came out and measured my rig before I spent any money, and they 
> took time to evaluate my sails and offer options. 
> 
> Wonder what others are paying for new sails and/or repairs.  
> 
> Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Annapolis
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[cenelson--- via CnC-List]

I have always had a sailmaker/salesperson measure my boat for any sail—whether 
national (Hood, North) or local. Given the sail costs for my 36 XL and the 
limited number of hulls made, I didn’t trust myself to make the measurements or 
to rely on some sail database.
For my latest 3Di 155%, the North rep spent a couple of hours measuring, 
including the slight curvature of my Genoa tracks as they move aft, following 
the curve of the cabin.Not a DIY project for me.
Since the sail has its curvatures built in from the 3d mold, its shape really 
cannot be adjusted. 
When delivered and hoisted , it fit perfectly, including the spreader and 
stanchion patches and most importantly, to my amateur eyes, it has a perfect 
shape.

My hope is that between the medium weight (true winds 15-20) and the sail 
material itself it will outlast my ability to race with it—or at least longer 
than it’s 3DL predecessor!
Charlie NelsonWater PhantomC 36 XL/kcb

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On Saturday, March 18, 2023, 11:37 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Anywhere from $850 to $2500 for a cruising (inshore) Dacron furling 135% genoa 
for my Catalina 270 (summer 2022).
 
  
 
You have to shop around (get quotes) and insist on comparing oranges to oranges.
 
  
 
I had very good experience with a small sail loft round Buffalo and with an 
offshore company; both in the lower range of prices. Some larger companies 
offered to send a rep to the boat, but this added a substantial premium and did 
not seem to offer too much benefit.
 
  
 
Marek
 
  
 
1994 C270 ”Legato”
 
Ottawa, ON
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 9:55 AM
To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list 
Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
Subject: Stus-List Sail costs
 
  
 
Sail costs:  A new light air genoa was quoted at $5200 for my 36 footer, so I 
decided instead to have repairs made to my old sails.   They repaired my #2 for 
$700.  They will alter my #3 for a little more.  They are removing horizontal 
battens and installing vertical battens, and adding UV, so it can be furled.  
I've chosen to use Chesapeake Sailmakers because they are service oriented, 
came out and measured my rig before I spent any money, and they took time to 
evaluate my sails and offer options. 
 
  
 
Wonder what others are paying for new sails and/or repairs. 
 
  
 
Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Annapolis
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[Joel Delamirande via CnC-List]

For my 30 mk 1  for genua 145% plus the main was 6500$ in Dacron
Precision was a little cheaper just love it to have local if my sails
didn’t fit properly
Chuck Bacon sails has lots of variety of good sails
Port Townsend sails seem to do awesome work


On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 11:37 PM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Anywhere from $850 to $2500 for a cruising (inshore) Dacron furling 135%
> genoa for my Catalina 270 (summer 2022).
>
>
>
> You have to shop around (get quotes) and insist on comparing oranges to
> oranges.
>
>
>
> I had very good experience with a small sail loft round Buffalo and with
> an offshore company; both in the lower range of prices. Some larger
> companies offered to send a rep to the boat, but this added a substantial
> premium and did not seem to offer too much benefit.
>
>
>
> Marek
>
>
>
> 1994 C270 ”Legato”
>
> Ottawa, ON
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 9:55 AM
> *To:* CNC boat owners, cnc-list 
> *Cc:* CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Sail costs
>
>
>
> Sail costs:  A new light air genoa was quoted at $5200 for my 36 footer,
> so I decided instead to have repairs made to my old sails.   They repaired
> my #2 for $700.  They will alter my #3 for a little more.  They are
> removing horizontal battens and installing vertical battens, and adding UV,
> so it can be furled.  I've chosen to use Chesapeake Sailmakers because they
> are service oriented, came out and measured my rig before I spent any
> money, and they took time to evaluate my sails and offer options.
>
>
>
> Wonder what others are paying for new sails and/or repairs.
>
>
>
> Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Annapolis
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
> help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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-- 
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*www.jdroofing.ca *
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[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Anywhere from $850 to $2500 for a cruising (inshore) Dacron furling 135% genoa 
for my Catalina 270 (summer 2022).

You have to shop around (get quotes) and insist on comparing oranges to oranges.

I had very good experience with a small sail loft round Buffalo and with an 
offshore company; both in the lower range of prices. Some larger companies 
offered to send a rep to the boat, but this added a substantial premium and did 
not seem to offer too much benefit.

Marek

1994 C270 ”Legato”
Ottawa, ON



From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 9:55 AM
To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list 
Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
Subject: Stus-List Sail costs

Sail costs:  A new light air genoa was quoted at $5200 for my 36 footer, so I 
decided instead to have repairs made to my old sails.   They repaired my #2 for 
$700.  They will alter my #3 for a little more.  They are removing horizontal 
battens and installing vertical battens, and adding UV, so it can be furled.  
I've chosen to use Chesapeake Sailmakers because they are service oriented, 
came out and measured my rig before I spent any money, and they took time to 
evaluate my sails and offer options.

Wonder what others are paying for new sails and/or repairs.

Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Annapolis
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[Don Kern via CnC-List]

I guess I am a hard  core "club" racer who buys racing sails when the 
current sail becomes too deformed for racing, de-laminates or not enuf 
of remains after it blew out. I have not replaced a sail that was 
younger then 20 yrs old.  In fact my Hood Vectron mainsail is twenty 
years old and still holding decent shape.  The mainsail/rig was modified 
by factory for IOR and has two feet off the boom, thus the #1, #2 and #3 
genoas are all bigger than my main and are the real power sails.  Since 
the new sail will be fairly expensive, I get competitive quotes from the 
local lofts being North, Quantum, Doyle and in the past Hood (now 
Quantum).  My foretriangle is a standard C 35-2 that resides in their 
databases, with all lofts are located around Narragansett Bay they 
understand the local and offshore conditions and can quote an 
appropriate wind range for the sail (material strength/size).  In every 
case, in selecting a sail, the loft will send out a very knowledgeable 
racer who will take measurements, note my sail track layout and discuss 
the wind range for the size. The sails are then manufactured overseas, 
but with the last two sails, they went back to loft for minor adjustment 
and to add spreader and stanchion patches after their representative 
sailed on the boat.  I have even had their representative, while racing 
on another boat, take pictures of my boat an advise me on better sail 
adjustment and crew placement.


Bottom line is in the forty years of owning this boat I have bought the 
more expensive sails for racing that have lasted for years and when 
cruising use their older cousins that still can be hoisted.


Don Kern
/Fireball/, C Mk2
Bristol, RI

On 3/18/2023 12:30 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
My 20 year old Dacron "delivery" sail got shredded in Hurricane 
Sally.  I was quoted $3600-3800 for a Dacron crosscut 155 for my 35-1 
by Ullman and North.  I went with a different sailmaker who came to 
the boat, measured and ordered it from Quantum's offshore 
manufacturing facility in Sri Lanka.  $2700 delivered to my door.  
Probably not the greatest sail I've owned but definitely acceptable 
for day sailing and cruising.


Local lofts are good but I think offshore sails can be a good deal.  
If a local sailmaker measures and orders the sail, you get the benefit 
of a local guy and the efficiency of offshore manufacture.  I suspect 
the offshore manufacturing facilities have proceduralized 
manufacturing and quality control.  Your local loft may not have 
that.  I've bought many sails over the years.  The only two issues 
I've had were with the local loft's manufacturing.  I've only had two 
offshore sails but never had an issue with either.  Both arrived with 
a quality control checklist in the box.


The most important thing is the local sailmaker's knowledge of local 
sailing conditions and the performance characteristics of your boat.


--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 9:35 AM Bob Mann via CnC-List 
 wrote:


I paid $5400 two years ago in Detroit for a lt/med 155 for my 35
mk I.

Bob

On 03/18/2023 9:54 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
 wrote:


Sail costs:  A new light air genoa was quoted at $5200 for my 36
footer, so I decided instead to have repairs made to my old
sails.   They repaired my #2 for $700. They will alter my #3 for
a little more.  They are removing horizontal battens and
installing vertical battens, and adding UV, so it can be furled. 
I've chosen to use Chesapeake Sailmakers because they are service
oriented, came out and measured my rig before I spent any money,
and they took time to evaluate my sails and offer options.

Wonder what others are paying for new sails and/or repairs.

Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Annapolis
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[cenelson--- via CnC-List]

Similar to my recent (2020/2021) 155% 3Di from North. No luff cover-I use a 
sleeve—and IIRC it was ~$6600 all in.
It was of medium weight for potential racing near the ocean and hopefully for 
better longevity!
Charlie NelsonWater Phantom1995 C 36 XL/kcb


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On Saturday, March 18, 2023, 2:46 PM, Ted Drossos via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I had a new 155% made by Quantum for my C 110 in 2020 . It was a carbon fiber 
tri-radial with Liteskin.  $6300 plus tax and delivery.
Ted DrossosC 110Lady in RedLong Island, NY

-Original Message-
From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list 
Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
Sent: Sat, Mar 18, 2023 9:54 am
Subject: Stus-List Sail costs

   Sail costs:  A new light air genoa was quoted at $5200 for my 36 footer, so 
I decided instead to have repairs made to my old sails.   They repaired my #2 
for $700.  They will alter my #3 for a little more.  They are removing 
horizontal battens and installing vertical battens, and adding UV, so it can be 
furled.  I've chosen to use Chesapeake Sailmakers because they are service 
oriented, came out and measured my rig before I spent any money, and they took 
time to evaluate my sails and offer options. 
   
   Wonder what others are paying for new sails and/or repairs.  
   
   Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Annapolis  Please show your 
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[Ted Drossos via CnC-List]

I had a new 155% made by Quantum for my C 110 in 2020 . It was a carbon fiber 
tri-radial with Liteskin.  $6300 plus tax and delivery.
Ted DrossosC 110Lady in RedLong Island, NY

-Original Message-
From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list 
Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
Sent: Sat, Mar 18, 2023 9:54 am
Subject: Stus-List Sail costs

   Sail costs:  A new light air genoa was quoted at $5200 for my 36 footer, so 
I decided instead to have repairs made to my old sails.   They repaired my #2 
for $700.  They will alter my #3 for a little more.  They are removing 
horizontal battens and installing vertical battens, and adding UV, so it can be 
furled.  I've chosen to use Chesapeake Sailmakers because they are service 
oriented, came out and measured my rig before I spent any money, and they took 
time to evaluate my sails and offer options. 
   
   Wonder what others are paying for new sails and/or repairs.  
   
   Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Annapolis  Please show your 
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[Tom Sutton via CnC-List]

I have new sails on order for my 35’ sailboat although it isn’t a C,  it is a 
Saga and made by many of the C (and Hinterhoeller) craftsmen.  A new tri 
radial dacron main was $4840 and a 105% tri radial dacron jib was $3385.  By 
the time I added some extras (second reef point, reefing blocks) and add taxes 
etc. The total is just shy of $9800 in Canadian dollars so about $7250 USD.  
That is from Ullman, the sales rep came and measured and we had a thorough 
conversation about different set up and options. I believe the sails are made 
in South Africa and will be finished in Detroit.

Cheers,
Tom S


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From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Sent: March 18, 2023 7:55 AM
To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list
Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER
Subject: Stus-List Sail costs

Sail costs:  A new light air genoa was quoted at $5200 for my 36 footer, so I 
decided instead to have repairs made to my old sails.   They repaired my #2 for 
$700.  They will alter my #3 for a little more.  They are removing horizontal 
battens and installing vertical battens, and adding UV, so it can be furled.  
I've chosen to use Chesapeake Sailmakers because they are service oriented, 
came out and measured my rig before I spent any money, and they took time to 
evaluate my sails and offer options. 

Wonder what others are paying for new sails and/or repairs.  

Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Annapolis 

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[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Sounds like a good price but six years ago.  What loft?

C

> On 03/18/2023 12:00 PM Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I paid about $3600, in 2016, for a 135% heavy duty off shore with, 
> sunbrella sun protection, foam to help with shape when furled, extra 
> stitching blah blah blah, for a 40 tartan. 
> 
> Danny
> Currently Boatless
> 
> On Mar 18, 2023 9:54 AM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> > > Sail costs:  A new light air genoa was quoted at $5200 
> for my 36 footer, so I decided instead to have repairs made to my old sails.  
>  They repaired my #2 for $700.  They will alter my #3 for a little more.  
> They are removing horizontal battens and installing vertical battens, and 
> adding UV, so it can be furled.  I've chosen to use Chesapeake Sailmakers 
> because they are service oriented, came out and measured my rig before I 
> spent any money, and they took time to evaluate my sails and offer options.
> > 
> > Wonder what others are paying for new sails and/or repairs. 
> > 
> > Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Annapolis
> > 
> > > 
> 
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[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Hi Dennis,

Appreciate your feedback.  Wasn't Hurricane Sally in 2004?  Twenty years ago. 

I remember quotes around 2010 from North for a genoa in the $3800 price range 
for dacron, but costs have gone up considerably.  The new sail quote ($5200) 
was for a light wind 150% racing sail by Elvstrom in dacron.  It would probably 
be cut and sewn in Shri-Lanka, but designed by Elvstrom software, based on 
Chesapeake Sailmaker measurements.

My plan this year is to reserve a medium #1 for racing, and use my older #2 and 
#3 for daysailing and cruising.  I just learned that I won't get a 6 second 
credit for the furler, because all my sails are string sails in Kevlar by UK 
and the furler credit from PHRF is only applicable to dacron sails.  Bummer.  



Chuck S





> On 03/18/2023 12:30 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> My 20 year old Dacron "delivery" sail got shredded in Hurricane Sally.  I 
> was quoted $3600-3800 for a Dacron crosscut 155 for my 35-1 by Ullman and 
> North.  I went with a different sailmaker who came to the boat, measured and 
> ordered it from Quantum's offshore manufacturing facility in Sri Lanka.  
> $2700 delivered to my door.  Probably not the greatest sail I've owned but 
> definitely acceptable for day sailing and cruising.
> 
> Local lofts are good but I think offshore sails can be a good deal.  If a 
> local sailmaker measures and orders the sail, you get the benefit of a local 
> guy and the efficiency of offshore manufacture.  I suspect the offshore 
> manufacturing facilities have proceduralized manufacturing and quality 
> control.  Your local loft may not have that.  I've bought many sails over the 
> years.  The only two issues I've had were with the local loft's 
> manufacturing.  I've only had two offshore sails but never had an issue with 
> either.  Both arrived with a quality control checklist in the box.
> 
> The most important thing is the local sailmaker's knowledge of local 
> sailing conditions and the performance characteristics of your boat.
> 
> --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 9:35 AM Bob Mann via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> 
> > > I paid $5400 two years ago in Detroit for a lt/med 155 
> for my 35 mk I.
> > 
> > Bob
> > 
> > > > > On 03/18/2023 9:54 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via 
> > CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Sail costs:  A new light air genoa was quoted at $5200 for my 
> > > 36 footer, so I decided instead to have repairs made to my old sails.   
> > > They repaired my #2 for $700.  They will alter my #3 for a little more.  
> > > They are removing horizontal battens and installing vertical battens, and 
> > > adding UV, so it can be furled.  I've chosen to use Chesapeake Sailmakers 
> > > because they are service oriented, came out and measured my rig before I 
> > > spent any money, and they took time to evaluate my sails and offer 
> > > options.
> > > 
> > > Wonder what others are paying for new sails and/or repairs. 
> > > 
> > > Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Annapolis
> > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo 
> > > Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at:
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> > > 
> > > > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the 
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> > > contribution at:
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> > 
> > > 
> 
> 
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> 
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[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

Most of these guys (North, Ullman, etc) have the sails made overseas.  Like you 
said, it’s the local personal service that makes the difference.

Neil Andersen, W3NEA
1982 C 32, FoxFire
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 12:32:35 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Sail costs

Forgot to add.  It was a furling genoa with foam luff and UV protection.


--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 11:30 AM Dennis C. 
mailto:capt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
My 20 year old Dacron "delivery" sail got shredded in Hurricane Sally.  I was 
quoted $3600-3800 for a Dacron crosscut 155 for my 35-1 by Ullman and North.  I 
went with a different sailmaker who came to the boat, measured and ordered it 
from Quantum's offshore manufacturing facility in Sri Lanka.  $2700 delivered 
to my door.  Probably not the greatest sail I've owned but definitely 
acceptable for day sailing and cruising.

Local lofts are good but I think offshore sails can be a good deal.  If a local 
sailmaker measures and orders the sail, you get the benefit of a local guy and 
the efficiency of offshore manufacture.  I suspect the offshore manufacturing 
facilities have proceduralized manufacturing and quality control.  Your local 
loft may not have that.  I've bought many sails over the years.  The only two 
issues I've had were with the local loft's manufacturing.  I've only had two 
offshore sails but never had an issue with either.  Both arrived with a quality 
control checklist in the box.

The most important thing is the local sailmaker's knowledge of local sailing 
conditions and the performance characteristics of your boat.

--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA



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[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Forgot to add.  It was a furling genoa with foam luff and UV protection.


--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 11:30 AM Dennis C.  wrote:

> My 20 year old Dacron "delivery" sail got shredded in Hurricane Sally.  I
> was quoted $3600-3800 for a Dacron crosscut 155 for my 35-1 by Ullman and
> North.  I went with a different sailmaker who came to the boat, measured
> and ordered it from Quantum's offshore manufacturing facility in Sri
> Lanka.  $2700 delivered to my door.  Probably not the greatest sail I've
> owned but definitely acceptable for day sailing and cruising.
>
> Local lofts are good but I think offshore sails can be a good deal.  If a
> local sailmaker measures and orders the sail, you get the benefit of a
> local guy and the efficiency of offshore manufacture.  I suspect the
> offshore manufacturing facilities have proceduralized manufacturing and
> quality control.  Your local loft may not have that.  I've bought many
> sails over the years.  The only two issues I've had were with the local
> loft's manufacturing.  I've only had two offshore sails but never had an
> issue with either.  Both arrived with a quality control checklist in the
> box.
>
> The most important thing is the local sailmaker's knowledge of local
> sailing conditions and the performance characteristics of your boat.
>
> --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
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Stus-List Re: Sail costs

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

My 20 year old Dacron "delivery" sail got shredded in Hurricane Sally.  I
was quoted $3600-3800 for a Dacron crosscut 155 for my 35-1 by Ullman and
North.  I went with a different sailmaker who came to the boat, measured
and ordered it from Quantum's offshore manufacturing facility in Sri
Lanka.  $2700 delivered to my door.  Probably not the greatest sail I've
owned but definitely acceptable for day sailing and cruising.

Local lofts are good but I think offshore sails can be a good deal.  If a
local sailmaker measures and orders the sail, you get the benefit of a
local guy and the efficiency of offshore manufacture.  I suspect the
offshore manufacturing facilities have proceduralized manufacturing and
quality control.  Your local loft may not have that.  I've bought many
sails over the years.  The only two issues I've had were with the local
loft's manufacturing.  I've only had two offshore sails but never had an
issue with either.  Both arrived with a quality control checklist in the
box.

The most important thing is the local sailmaker's knowledge of local
sailing conditions and the performance characteristics of your boat.

--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 9:35 AM Bob Mann via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I paid $5400 two years ago in Detroit for a lt/med 155 for my 35 mk I.
>
> Bob
>
> On 03/18/2023 9:54 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
> Sail costs:  A new light air genoa was quoted at $5200 for my 36 footer,
> so I decided instead to have repairs made to my old sails.   They repaired
> my #2 for $700.  They will alter my #3 for a little more.  They are
> removing horizontal battens and installing vertical battens, and adding UV,
> so it can be furled.  I've chosen to use Chesapeake Sailmakers because they
> are service oriented, came out and measured my rig before I spent any
> money, and they took time to evaluate my sails and offer options.
>
> Wonder what others are paying for new sails and/or repairs.
>
> Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Annapolis
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Stus-List Re: Sail costs

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I paid about $3600, in 2016, for a 135% heavy duty off shore with, sunbrella sun protection, foam to help with shape when furled, extra stitching blah blah blah, for a 40 tartan. DannyCurrently BoatlessOn Mar 18, 2023 9:54 AM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List  wrote:

  
   Sail costs:  A new light air genoa was quoted at $5200 for my 36 footer, so I decided instead to have repairs made to my old sails.   They repaired my #2 for $700.  They will alter my #3 for a little more.  They are removing horizontal battens and installing vertical battens, and adding UV, so it can be furled.  I've chosen to use Chesapeake Sailmakers because they are service oriented, came out and measured my rig before I spent any money, and they took time to evaluate my sails and offer options.
   
  
  
   
  
  
   Wonder what others are paying for new sails and/or repairs.  
   
  
  
   
  
  
   Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Annapolis
  
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Stus-List Re: Sail costs

[Bob Mann via CnC-List]

I paid $5400 two years ago in Detroit for a lt/med 155 for my 35 mk I.

Bob

> On 03/18/2023 9:54 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Sail costs:  A new light air genoa was quoted at $5200 for my 36 footer, 
> so I decided instead to have repairs made to my old sails.   They repaired my 
> #2 for $700.  They will alter my #3 for a little more.  They are removing 
> horizontal battens and installing vertical battens, and adding UV, so it can 
> be furled.  I've chosen to use Chesapeake Sailmakers because they are service 
> oriented, came out and measured my rig before I spent any money, and they 
> took time to evaluate my sails and offer options.
> 
> Wonder what others are paying for new sails and/or repairs. 
> 
> Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Annapolis
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> 
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