Stus-List Re: USCG flares vs electronic devices

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Well, I’m glad Rick left a few dangling participles below, B/C I don’t seem to 
be getting all the emails like the one from Joe, even in spam folders on the 
Gmail Server.

 

Having said that, this got me excited enough to get one of these SOLAS 
Parachute flares, only to be told you have to pick them up at the store! I 
wonder if they are that dangerous,(no shipping) if they should be stored in an 
Army Surplus 50 Caliber cartridge box or something – I would hate to have 
something like that go off below!

 

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

 

From: Rick Brass via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 8:38 PM
To: 'Stus-List'
Cc: Rick Brass
Subject: Stus-List Re: USCG flares vs electronic devices

 

I have to agree with Joe about the value of SOLAS flares. I hate spending $50 
each on them – it’s the frugal (read cheap) sailor part of me – but if I ever 
need help I want someone to notice.  12 or 25 gauge flares are glorified bottle 
rockets, and USCG approved aerial flares go up 250-300 feet and burn for a few 
seconds.

 

A few years ago I took a couple of expired SOLAS flares to my folks’ house on 
an inland lake in Michigan over July 4th. I figured to see what the flares 
looked like and make sure I knew how to set one off while everyone was shooting 
fireworks and wouldn’t notice the flare. WRONG! The rocket went up 1000 feet or 
more, the flare burst red and rode down on its parachute for what seemed like 
forever, and the whole lake was lit up like a blood red noon.

 

I’m convinced that when you pop one of these puppies someone – probably 
everyone – will notice. Which is just what I want if I really need help.

 

I also carry a couple of SOLAS smoke canisters aboard. I can’t recall the cost 
but it was pretty high. But when you pull the string and toss the can in the 
water, it lets out a cloud of orange smoke that seems like it would cover half 
of Lake Erie. I know this from watching a USCG training exercise ( I happened 
to be passing near Elizabeth City when the exercise was taking place) and I 
could see the smoke cloud from over three miles away.

 

I hope I never have to use any of this, but if I do I know the SOLAS stuff will 
be well worth the cost.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 10:36 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Stus-List Re: USCG flares vs electronic devices

 

The electronic “flares” are a cheap way to be in compliance, but if you 
actually think you might need help they aren’t even remotely close to SOLAS 
flares. The strobes are probably going to be ignored by everyone, 12 gauge 
flares are useless unless you are right next to someone, but SOLAS flares light 
up the sky bright enough to read by!

 

Joe

Coquina

 

Stus-List Re: USCG flares vs electronic devices

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

I have to agree with Joe about the value of SOLAS flares. I hate spending $50 
each on them – it’s the frugal (read cheap) sailor part of me – but if I ever 
need help I want someone to notice.  12 or 25 gauge flares are glorified bottle 
rockets, and USCG approved aerial flares go up 250-300 feet and burn for a few 
seconds.

 

A few years ago I took a couple of expired SOLAS flares to my folks’ house on 
an inland lake in Michigan over July 4th. I figured to see what the flares 
looked like and make sure I knew how to set one off while everyone was shooting 
fireworks and wouldn’t notice the flare. WRONG! The rocket went up 1000 feet or 
more, the flare burst red and rode down on its parachute for what seemed like 
forever, and the whole lake was lit up like a blood red noon.

 

I’m convinced that when you pop one of these puppies someone – probably 
everyone – will notice. Which is just what I want if I really need help.

 

I also carry a couple of SOLAS smoke canisters aboard. I can’t recall the cost 
but it was pretty high. But when you pull the string and toss the can in the 
water, it lets out a cloud of orange smoke that seems like it would cover half 
of Lake Erie. I know this from watching a USCG training exercise ( I happened 
to be passing near Elizabeth City when the exercise was taking place) and I 
could see the smoke cloud from over three miles away.

 

I hope I never have to use any of this, but if I do I know the SOLAS stuff will 
be well worth the cost.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 10:36 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Stus-List Re: USCG flares vs electronic devices

 

The electronic “flares” are a cheap way to be in compliance, but if you 
actually think you might need help they aren’t even remotely close to SOLAS 
flares. The strobes are probably going to be ignored by everyone, 12 gauge 
flares are useless unless you are right next to someone, but SOLAS flares light 
up the sky bright enough to read by!

 

Joe

Coquina

 

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[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

Safety Of Life At Sea. Flares last a lot longer than 4 years. That's why I
keep the old ones. But I got a lot and far as I can tell at Hallowe'en they
all work fine

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 11:36 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The electronic “flares” are a cheap way to be in compliance, but if you
> actually think you might need help they aren’t even remotely close to SOLAS
> flares. The strobes are probably going to be ignored by everyone, 12 gauge
> flares are useless unless you are right next to someone, but SOLAS flares
> light up the sky bright enough to read by!
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
>
>
> --
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[Korbey Hunt via CnC-List]

I think they are a great compliance insurance solution.  One time $60 purchase 
and a couple of spare C battery cells.  We all have plenty of expired flares 
for the real event if it happens.  You can buy on Amazon.

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From: Dennis C. via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 12:06 PM
To: Stus-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Dennis C.<mailto:capt...@gmail.com>
Subject: Stus-List Re: USCG flares vs electronic devices

Joe,

I think you're totally wrong on the electronic SOS flares.  At the first sight 
of one, Bubba will put down his beer, crank up his party barge and zoom to your 
rescue. /S

--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 9:36 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
The electronic “flares” are a cheap way to be in compliance, but if you 
actually think you might need help they aren’t even remotely close to SOLAS 
flares. The strobes are probably going to be ignored by everyone,

Joe
Coquina

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[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Joe,

I think you're totally wrong on the electronic SOS flares.  At the first
sight of one, Bubba will put down his beer, crank up his party barge and
zoom to your rescue. /S

--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 9:36 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The electronic “flares” are a cheap way to be in compliance, but if you
> actually think you might need help they aren’t even remotely close to SOLAS
> flares. The strobes are probably going to be ignored by everyone,
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
>
>
>

Stus-List Re: USCG flares vs electronic devices

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

The electronic “flares” are a cheap way to be in compliance, but if you 
actually think you might need help they aren’t even remotely close to SOLAS 
flares. The strobes are probably going to be ignored by everyone, 12 gauge 
flares are useless unless you are right next to someone, but SOLAS flares light 
up the sky bright enough to read by!

Joe
Coquina

Stus-List Re: USCG flares vs electronic devices

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Guess you do qualify under combination (2).  

4. VISUAL DISTRESS SIGNALS - Recreational boats 16 feet and over used on 
coastal waters or the Great Lakes are required to carry a minimum of either (1) 
3 day and 3 night pyrotechnic devices (like flares), (2) one day 
non-pyrotechnic device (flag) and one night non-pyrotechnic device (auto SOS 
light) or (3) a combination of (1) and (2)

I carry the flag also, but doubt anybody would react to seeing that.
C
.

> On 03/29/2022 5:40 PM MICHAEL BRANNON via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> When I bought my electronic signaling device a red distress flag for 
> daytime use came with it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > > On Mar 29, 2022, at 5:11 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via 
> CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > 
> > Hey Korbey,
> > I'm no expert but I believe the electronic signaling device 
> > qualifies for night, but does not meet the daytime requirement for three 
> > devices. Found this:   http://www.uscgaux-ocnj.org/checklst.html
> > 
> > C
> > 
> > > 
> 

Stus-List Re: USCG flares vs electronic devices

[MICHAEL BRANNON via CnC-List]

When I bought my electronic signaling device a red distress flag for daytime 
use came with it.



> On Mar 29, 2022, at 5:11 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey Korbey, 
> I'm no expert but I believe the electronic signaling device qualifies for 
> night, but does not meet the daytime requirement for three devices. Found 
> this:   http://www.uscgaux-ocnj.org/checklst.html 
> 
> 
> C