Re: Stus-List Standing Rigging Rust

2016-11-15 Thread Mike Brannon via CnC-List
Mark,   Most turnbuckles are made of bronze with a chrome coating.   They 
should not show any sign of rust.   The studs and toggles ends may show some 
sign of rust but it should clean off very easily with any good metal polish.   
As for the 1X19 wire I recommend that you get the rigger who put it all 
together to take a look.   There shouldn't be any sign of rust on the wire 
after 1 year.   

As previously stated you can have some transfer from the dyes during the 
swaging  process but again it should come off easily.

Mike
Virginia Lee C 36 93295
Virginia Beach, VA

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> On Nov 12, 2016, at 22:57, Mark McMenamy via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Less than a year ago I had the standing rigging replaced on our C 25.  
> Recently I noticed some rust on the turnbuckles.  Also, there is rust on the 
> lines that runs in a spiral pattern all the way up.  I called our local 
> rigger and he offered to take a look, but be's been so busy that I'm still 
> waiting.  From what I understand the dyes in the steel can cause this which 
> is no big deal, or it could be a bad batch of steel.   Has anyone ever come 
> across this?  I wonder how to tell the difference.  Any thoughts or opinions 
> are appreciated.  I had the rigging replaced at a yard near where we bought 
> the boat which is 150 miles away so we could sail it home which makes things 
> more complicated.
> 
> Thanks as always,
> 
> Mark McMenamy
> Ft Pierce FL
> C 25 "Icicle"
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Re: Stus-List Standing Rigging Rust

2016-11-13 Thread Mark McMenamy via CnC-List
Thanks Josh.  What worries me is the spiral rust running up all the shrouds and 
the backstay.  Has anyone ever seen something like this?  It seems like perhaps 
one strand in the line is rusting.   It's like a barber pole or a candy cane 
stripe.

Thanks,

Mark

On Nov 12, 2016, at 11:37 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
> wrote:


As you mentioned the tools used to cut and crimp the terminals are usually 
carbon steel.  During the tooling process some of those iron ions transfer to 
the tooled item and subsequently rust.  If the rig was just replaced I would 
say that it is most likely that.  Most chandleries sell bronze wool which will 
clean this "rust" right up.  The bronze is softer than the stainless so it 
won't scratch and it won't leave more iron ions to rust in the future.   If 
you're still concerned you can use a high power magnifying glass to examine for 
pitting or cracks in the metal where the rust was.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Nov 12, 2016 10:58 PM, "Mark McMenamy via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
Hello All,

Less than a year ago I had the standing rigging replaced on our C 25.  
Recently I noticed some rust on the turnbuckles.  Also, there is rust on the 
lines that runs in a spiral pattern all the way up.  I called our local rigger 
and he offered to take a look, but be's been so busy that I'm still waiting.  
From what I understand the dyes in the steel can cause this which is no big 
deal, or it could be a bad batch of steel.   Has anyone ever come across this?  
I wonder how to tell the difference.  Any thoughts or opinions are appreciated. 
 I had the rigging replaced at a yard near where we bought the boat which is 
150 miles away so we could sail it home which makes things more complicated.

Thanks as always,

Mark McMenamy
Ft Pierce FL
C 25 "Icicle"
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Re: Stus-List Standing Rigging Rust

2016-11-12 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
As you mentioned the tools used to cut and crimp the terminals are usually
carbon steel.  During the tooling process some of those iron ions transfer
to the tooled item and subsequently rust.  If the rig was just replaced I
would say that it is most likely that.  Most chandleries sell bronze wool
which will clean this "rust" right up.  The bronze is softer than the
stainless so it won't scratch and it won't leave more iron ions to rust in
the future.   If you're still concerned you can use a high power magnifying
glass to examine for pitting or cracks in the metal where the rust was.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Nov 12, 2016 10:58 PM, "Mark McMenamy via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Hello All,

Less than a year ago I had the standing rigging replaced on our C 25.
Recently I noticed some rust on the turnbuckles.  Also, there is rust on
the lines that runs in a spiral pattern all the way up.  I called our local
rigger and he offered to take a look, but be's been so busy that I'm still
waiting.  From what I understand the dyes in the steel can cause this which
is no big deal, or it could be a bad batch of steel.   Has anyone ever come
across this?  I wonder how to tell the difference.  Any thoughts or
opinions are appreciated.  I had the rigging replaced at a yard near where
we bought the boat which is 150 miles away so we could sail it home which
makes things more complicated.

Thanks as always,

Mark McMenamy
Ft Pierce FL
C 25 "Icicle"
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Stus-List Standing Rigging Rust

2016-11-12 Thread Mark McMenamy via CnC-List
Hello All,

Less than a year ago I had the standing rigging replaced on our C 25.  
Recently I noticed some rust on the turnbuckles.  Also, there is rust on the 
lines that runs in a spiral pattern all the way up.  I called our local rigger 
and he offered to take a look, but be's been so busy that I'm still waiting.  
From what I understand the dyes in the steel can cause this which is no big 
deal, or it could be a bad batch of steel.   Has anyone ever come across this?  
I wonder how to tell the difference.  Any thoughts or opinions are appreciated. 
 I had the rigging replaced at a yard near where we bought the boat which is 
150 miles away so we could sail it home which makes things more complicated.

Thanks as always,

Mark McMenamy
Ft Pierce FL
C 25 "Icicle"
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