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Thanks to everyone who offered advice and expertise re my starting problem. It turned out to be a loose ground wire at the engine. I needn't have installed a new ignition switch, but now I have a spare. And I've learned a couple of valuable lessons. Lesson number one is: Ask first. Temperature for tomorrow is predicted to be mid-20s here. That's about 300 Kelvin, I think. A good day to slalom among the lobster buoys in St George's Bay. -- Derek Kennedy Tortuga, CC30 mk1 Ballantyne's Cove, NS ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Congrats on the easy fix! Chuck B CC 34 Elusive Somerset, MA On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Derek Kennedy via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Thanks to everyone who offered advice and expertise re my starting problem. It turned out to be a loose ground wire at the engine. I needn't have installed a new ignition switch, but now I have a spare. And I've learned a couple of valuable lessons. Lesson number one is: Ask first. Temperature for tomorrow is predicted to be mid-20s here. That's about 300 Kelvin, I think. A good day to slalom among the lobster buoys in St George's Bay. -- Derek Kennedy Tortuga, CC30 mk1 Ballantyne's Cove, NS ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Starting problems, screw driver test
Hi Derek, Good advice. Your switch was probably fine and the problem is a poor connection. Look at this as a learning opportunity. There several ways to troubleshoot this. A meter is the best but there is an old school, one screwdriver way. First, check the battery voltage w an inexpensive digital volt meter. It should be 12.6 or higher, but 12.4 can start an engine. I keep a very simple digital meter plugged into a 12VDC socket to check my battery voltage. (Walmart, Auto Zone, Advanced Auto, $10) https://www.google.com/search?q=cigarette+lighter+digital+voltmeterbiw=1366bih=631source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=2nlgVe6BIrbdsASilIOwCQved=0CAcQ_AUoAg#imgrc=_xH6ZZffhJkXMM%253A%3B41Oeaw868kqBSM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fi5.walmartimages.com%252Fdfw%252Fdce07b8c-ce0e%252Fk2-_f00ed276-6d3f-46c0-812a-199f2c734309.v1.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.walmart.com%252Fip%252FEquus-Innova-3721-Battery-and-Charging-System-Monitor%252F15137663%3B450%3B450 Next, check the starter: This screwdriver test bypasses the start button, and the solenoid. Open up the engine compartment and find the starter. It's a cylindrical little motor attached to one side of the engine. You should find four terminals on the solenoid, two small and two large. The two large terminals have two large cables attached that go right to the start battery. With the system turned on, battery switch, engine switch, like you would to start, take a large screw driver with an insulated handle and short across the two large terminals and the starter should activate, turning over the engine. When you do this, there will be a big spark, but this is typical starter troubleshooting and OK. It's only 12VDC, so a single layer of electrical tape is enough insulation to protect your hand. If the engine turns over, the starter is fine, you have only the solenoid and wiring to consider. With the engine off and everything ready to start again, you short across the two small terminals to power the solenoid, to activate the starter again. If the wiring is good, the solenoid should click and the starter should turn over the engine as before. If it is quiet, you may have a bad solenoid, but you probably don't have 12V there and have to follow it back to the start button. Look for green terminals and clean the corrosion off, cut back any green wire and replace terminal. Look for blackened wires at the harness connector plug that Rich mentioned. Check your ground wire which is usually a black wire attached to the engine itself. Make sure this connection is clean and tight. Another handy tool is a 12VDC troubleshooting light, (Walmart, Auto Zone, Advanced Auto, Ace Hardware $10) http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1378714bingpla=bingpla_1127276 Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: Knowles Rich via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list Cnc-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Knowles Rich r...@sailpower.ca Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 1:05:00 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Starting problems Pretty much every marine engine has a connector or two in the engine/panel wiring harness. They are there to make installation convenient at the factory, but, after a few years, can cause a lot of problems as corrosion and wear set in. I’ve seen electrical problems on every size of boat regardless of make or engine type that bypassing these connectors has frequently cured. I suggest cutting out the connectors and splicing the individual wires together using top quality heat shrink crimp butt connectors. In the event that the engine has to be serviced, removed, or replaced, the wires can be severed and rejoined as needed. I’m not sure that this is the root of your problems but it’s a good place to start. Rich Knowles Nanaimo, BC Boatless. On May 22, 2015, at 06:00, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Derek, Sounds like you have an intermittent wiring problem. Grab your voltmeter and check each connection. Could also be your starter solenoid. Good luck. All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B CC 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.774.9767 | Mobile --- Sent via iPhone 6 iPhone. iTypos. iApologize On May 22, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Tortuga via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I’m having ignition problems with the 2QM15 engine in my CC 30 mk1. Normally, when the main switch is turned to on, the oil pressure alarm sounds. Pressing the starter button starts the engine and the alarm stops. This season, after a few successful starts, when I turned the main switch on one day there was no alarm and nothing happened when I pressed the starter. No cranking. Not a sound. My batteries spent the winter in my basement and were fully charged. As well, shore
Re: Stus-List Starting problems
There is a fuse that sits on the back port quarter of the engine which the wiring to the panel goes to. Without it nothing works. My fuse Block cracked and was giving intermittent connection. Drove me nuts until I found the secret hiding spot for it. Rewired it to a circuit breaker and all has Ben good since. Good luck. Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Sam Salter via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 05-22-2015 22:15 (GMT-04:00) To: CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: sam.c.sal...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Starting problems I had a similar problem 3 seasons ago. It was bad or corroded connections and wiring. 35 years is pretty good, but everything needs replacing eventually. I replaced all the major electrical lines around the batteries, main switch and engine with pre made auto lines from Canadian Tire (maybe Autozone in the US). Cost was about $65 CDN for my 26 No more problems since. sam :-)CC 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta From: Dennis C. via CnC-ListSent: Friday, May 22, 2015 7:58 AMTo: CnClistReply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: Dennis C.Subject: Re: Stus-List Starting problems Just a caution, a check of voltage or resistance is only a part of the puzzle. If the connection(s) on one or both ends are corroded, it may still pass a small amount of current to show voltage but may not pass enough current to support the user, i.e. pump or starter, etc. Connections must be clean to pass current. Dennis C. On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Derek, Sounds like you have an intermittent wiring problem. Grab your voltmeter and check each connection. Could also be your starter solenoid. Good luck. All the best, Edd ---Edd M. SchillayStarship EnterpriseNCC-1701-BCC 37+ | City Island, NYwww.StarshipSailing.com---914.332.4400 | Office914.774.9767 | Mobile---Sent via iPhone 6iPhone. iTypos. iApologize On May 22, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Tortuga via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I’m having ignition problems with the 2QM15 engine in my CC 30 mk1. Normally, when the main switch is turned to on, the oil pressure alarm sounds. Pressing the starter button starts the engine and the alarm stops. This season, after a few successful starts, when I turned the main switch on one day there was no alarm and nothing happened when I pressed the starter. No cranking. Not a sound. My batteries spent the winter in my basement and were fully charged. As well, shore power was plugged in and the charger showed full charge on both batteries. This happened once or twice last season but when I repeated the process the engine started. I assumed that the main switch was worn out and ordered a replacement Yanmar switch from Rosborough Boats. It was my first dealing with them and I was very impressed. Rob Manual had a new switch to me within a day. I had carefully labelled and photographed the connections at the old switch before removing it, but when I installed the new one it didn’t solve my problem. When I keyed the switch on, I got a very weak sounding alarm and pressing the starter button got no reaction. I’m unskilled at tracing problems, so thought I’d ask for help. Thanks in advance Derek Kennedy TortugaCC 30 mk1 Ballantyne’s Cove, NS ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Starting problems
I had a similar problem 3 seasons ago.It was bad or corroded connections and wiring.35 years is pretty good, but everything needs replacing eventually.I replaced all the major electrical lines around the batteries, main switch and engine with pre made auto lines from Canadian Tire (maybe Autozone in the US). Cost was about $65 CDN for my 26No more problems since. sam:-)CC 26 LiquoriceGhost Lake AlbertaFrom: Dennis C. via CnC-ListSent: Friday, May 22, 2015 7:58 AMTo: CnClistReply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: Dennis C.Subject: Re: Stus-List Starting problemsJust a caution, a check of voltage or resistance is only a part of the puzzle. If the connection(s) on one or both ends are corroded, it may still pass a small amount of current to show voltage but may not pass enough current to support the user, i.e. pump or starter, etc.Connections must be clean to pass current.Dennis C.On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:Derek,Sounds like you have an intermittent wiring problem. Grab your voltmeter and check each connection.Could also be your starter solenoid.Good luck.All the best,Edd---Edd M. SchillayStarship EnterpriseNCC-1701-BCC 37+ | City Island, NYwww.StarshipSailing.com---914.332.4400 | Office914.774.9767 | Mobile---Sent via iPhone 6iPhone. iTypos. iApologizeOn May 22, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Tortuga via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:I’m having ignition problems with the 2QM15 engine in my CC 30 mk1. Normally, when the main switch is turned to on, the oil pressure alarm sounds. Pressing the starter button starts the engine and the alarm stops. This season, after a few successful starts, when I turned the main switch on one day there was no alarm and nothing happened when I pressed the starter. No cranking. Not a sound. My batteries spent the winter in my basement and were fully charged. As well, shore power was plugged in and the charger showed full charge on both batteries. This happened once or twice last season but when I repeated the process the engine started. I assumed that the main switch was worn out and ordered a replacement Yanmar switch from Rosborough Boats. It was my first dealing with them and I was very impressed. Rob Manual had a new switch to me within a day. I had carefully labelled and photographed the connections at the old switch before removing it, but when I installed the new one it didn’t solve my problem. When I keyed the switch on, I got a very weak sounding alarm and pressing the starter button got no reaction. I’m unskilled at tracing problems, so thought I’d ask for help. Thanks in advanceDerek Kennedy TortugaCC 30 mk1 Ballantyne’s Cove, NS ___Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.comTo change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Hi Derek, My 2QM20 might be a similar vintage to your engine. Mine has a fuse near the back of the head, port side, that has a connection which often comes loose. The symptoms shown have been no idiot light at panel or lights okay but no starter power. So far I've cured by wiggle action but one of these days I know that isn't going to work anymore. It really needs new connections, no spring left to grip the spade. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 05:32 AM 22/05/2015, you wrote: Iâm having ignition problems with the 2QM15 engine in my CC 30 mk1. Normally, when the main switch is turned to on, the oil pressure alarm sounds. Pressing the starter button starts the engine and the alarm stops. This season, after a few successful starts, when I turned the main switch on one day there was no alarm and nothing happened when I pressed the starter. No cranking. Not a sound. My batteries spent the winter in my basement and were fully charged. As well, shore power was plugged in and the charger showed full charge on both batteries. This happened once or twice last season but when I repeated the process the engine started. I assumed that the main switch was worn out and ordered a replacement Yanmar switch from Rosborough Boats. It was my first dealing with them and I was very impressed. Rob Manual had a new switch to me within a day. I had carefully labelled and photographed the connections at the old switch before removing it, but when I installed the new one it didnât solve my problem. When I keyed the switch on, I got a very weak sounding alarm and pressing the starter button got no reaction. Iâm unskilled at tracing problems, so thought Iâd ask for help. Thanks in advance Derek Kennedy Tortuga CC 30 mk1 Ballantyneâs Cove, NS ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Starting problems
Pretty much every marine engine has a connector or two in the engine/panel wiring harness. They are there to make installation convenient at the factory, but, after a few years, can cause a lot of problems as corrosion and wear set in. I’ve seen electrical problems on every size of boat regardless of make or engine type that bypassing these connectors has frequently cured. I suggest cutting out the connectors and splicing the individual wires together using top quality heat shrink crimp butt connectors. In the event that the engine has to be serviced, removed, or replaced, the wires can be severed and rejoined as needed. I’m not sure that this is the root of your problems but it’s a good place to start. Rich Knowles Nanaimo, BC Boatless. On May 22, 2015, at 06:00, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Derek, Sounds like you have an intermittent wiring problem. Grab your voltmeter and check each connection. Could also be your starter solenoid. Good luck. All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B CC 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com http://www.starshipsailing.com/ --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.774.9767 | Mobile --- Sent via iPhone 6 iPhone. iTypos. iApologize On May 22, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Tortuga via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I’m having ignition problems with the 2QM15 engine in my CC 30 mk1. Normally, when the main switch is turned to on, the oil pressure alarm sounds. Pressing the starter button starts the engine and the alarm stops. This season, after a few successful starts, when I turned the main switch on one day there was no alarm and nothing happened when I pressed the starter. No cranking. Not a sound. My batteries spent the winter in my basement and were fully charged. As well, shore power was plugged in and the charger showed full charge on both batteries. This happened once or twice last season but when I repeated the process the engine started. I assumed that the main switch was worn out and ordered a replacement Yanmar switch from Rosborough Boats. It was my first dealing with them and I was very impressed. Rob Manual had a new switch to me within a day. I had carefully labelled and photographed the connections at the old switch before removing it, but when I installed the new one it didn’t solve my problem. When I keyed the switch on, I got a very weak sounding alarm and pressing the starter button got no reaction. I’m unskilled at tracing problems, so thought I’d ask for help. Thanks in advance Derek Kennedy Tortuga CC 30 mk1 Ballantyne’s Cove, NS ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Starting problems
Derek, Sounds like you have an intermittent wiring problem. Grab your voltmeter and check each connection. Could also be your starter solenoid. Good luck. All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B CC 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.774.9767 | Mobile --- Sent via iPhone 6 iPhone. iTypos. iApologize On May 22, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Tortuga via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I’m having ignition problems with the 2QM15 engine in my CC 30 mk1. Normally, when the main switch is turned to on, the oil pressure alarm sounds. Pressing the starter button starts the engine and the alarm stops. This season, after a few successful starts, when I turned the main switch on one day there was no alarm and nothing happened when I pressed the starter. No cranking. Not a sound. My batteries spent the winter in my basement and were fully charged. As well, shore power was plugged in and the charger showed full charge on both batteries. This happened once or twice last season but when I repeated the process the engine started. I assumed that the main switch was worn out and ordered a replacement Yanmar switch from Rosborough Boats. It was my first dealing with them and I was very impressed. Rob Manual had a new switch to me within a day. I had carefully labelled and photographed the connections at the old switch before removing it, but when I installed the new one it didn’t solve my problem. When I keyed the switch on, I got a very weak sounding alarm and pressing the starter button got no reaction. I’m unskilled at tracing problems, so thought I’d ask for help. Thanks in advance Derek Kennedy Tortuga CC 30 mk1 Ballantyne’s Cove, NS ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Derek, I had a similar problem starting this season, found it was a loose ground wire on the alternator bracket. I had taken the alternator off when I was changing the pencil zincs in my 2qm20. There are some really smart guys on the list, with lots of good information. I was lucky I didn't have to chase my problem too deep. Chuck CC 34 Elusive Somerset, MA On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Derek, Sounds like you have an intermittent wiring problem. Grab your voltmeter and check each connection. Could also be your starter solenoid. Good luck. All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B CC 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.774.9767 | Mobile --- Sent via iPhone 6 iPhone. iTypos. iApologize On May 22, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Tortuga via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I’m having ignition problems with the 2QM15 engine in my CC 30 mk1. Normally, when the main switch is turned to on, the oil pressure alarm sounds. Pressing the starter button starts the engine and the alarm stops. This season, after a few successful starts, when I turned the main switch on one day there was no alarm and nothing happened when I pressed the starter. No cranking. Not a sound. My batteries spent the winter in my basement and were fully charged. As well, shore power was plugged in and the charger showed full charge on both batteries. This happened once or twice last season but when I repeated the process the engine started. I assumed that the main switch was worn out and ordered a replacement Yanmar switch from Rosborough Boats. It was my first dealing with them and I was very impressed. Rob Manual had a new switch to me within a day. I had carefully labelled and photographed the connections at the old switch before removing it, but when I installed the new one it didn’t solve my problem. When I keyed the switch on, I got a very weak sounding alarm and pressing the starter button got no reaction. I’m unskilled at tracing problems, so thought I’d ask for help. Thanks in advance Derek Kennedy Tortuga CC 30 mk1 Ballantyne’s Cove, NS ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Starting problems
Just a caution, a check of voltage or resistance is only a part of the puzzle. If the connection(s) on one or both ends are corroded, it may still pass a small amount of current to show voltage but may not pass enough current to support the user, i.e. pump or starter, etc. Connections must be clean to pass current. Dennis C. On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Derek, Sounds like you have an intermittent wiring problem. Grab your voltmeter and check each connection. Could also be your starter solenoid. Good luck. All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B CC 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.774.9767 | Mobile --- Sent via iPhone 6 iPhone. iTypos. iApologize On May 22, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Tortuga via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I’m having ignition problems with the 2QM15 engine in my CC 30 mk1. Normally, when the main switch is turned to on, the oil pressure alarm sounds. Pressing the starter button starts the engine and the alarm stops. This season, after a few successful starts, when I turned the main switch on one day there was no alarm and nothing happened when I pressed the starter. No cranking. Not a sound. My batteries spent the winter in my basement and were fully charged. As well, shore power was plugged in and the charger showed full charge on both batteries. This happened once or twice last season but when I repeated the process the engine started. I assumed that the main switch was worn out and ordered a replacement Yanmar switch from Rosborough Boats. It was my first dealing with them and I was very impressed. Rob Manual had a new switch to me within a day. I had carefully labelled and photographed the connections at the old switch before removing it, but when I installed the new one it didn’t solve my problem. When I keyed the switch on, I got a very weak sounding alarm and pressing the starter button got no reaction. I’m unskilled at tracing problems, so thought I’d ask for help. Thanks in advance Derek Kennedy Tortuga CC 30 mk1 Ballantyne’s Cove, NS ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Starting problems
I’m having ignition problems with the 2QM15 engine in my CC 30 mk1. Normally, when the main switch is turned to on, the oil pressure alarm sounds. Pressing the starter button starts the engine and the alarm stops. This season, after a few successful starts, when I turned the main switch on one day there was no alarm and nothing happened when I pressed the starter. No cranking. Not a sound. My batteries spent the winter in my basement and were fully charged. As well, shore power was plugged in and the charger showed full charge on both batteries. This happened once or twice last season but when I repeated the process the engine started. I assumed that the main switch was worn out and ordered a replacement Yanmar switch from Rosborough Boats. It was my first dealing with them and I was very impressed. Rob Manual had a new switch to me within a day. I had carefully labelled and photographed the connections at the old switch before removing it, but when I installed the new one it didn’t solve my problem. When I keyed the switch on, I got a very weak sounding alarm and pressing the starter button got no reaction. I’m unskilled at tracing problems, so thought I’d ask for help. Thanks in advance Derek Kennedy Tortuga CC 30 mk1 Ballantyne’s Cove, NS ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I was also going to suggest a bad ground at the engine. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On May 22, 2015, at 8:07 AM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Derek, I had a similar problem starting this season, found it was a loose ground wire on the alternator bracket. I had taken the alternator off when I was changing the pencil zincs in my 2qm20. There are some really smart guys on the list, with lots of good information. I was lucky I didn't have to chase my problem too deep. Chuck CC 34 Elusive Somerset, MA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Starting problems
I just developed intermittent electrical starting problems on my 1984 CC 32 with a 2GMF engine. I assume it is either the starting push button switch or the Solenoid and an off to the boat to investigate and hopefully confirm prior to a one week cruise starting this weekend. The engine control panel is a Type B and I was wondering if anyone knew the make and/ or part #'s of a compatible push button switch and starting Solenoid. Thanks you in advance for any answers/suggestions. John Arpeggio Norwalk,CT ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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John, the solenoid part number is 124250-77310 . Torrensen has them. Good luck! They probably have the switch as well. On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:22 AM, John Russo johnrussob...@optonline.netwrote: I just developed intermittent electrical starting problems on my 1984 CC 32 with a 2GMF engine. I assume it is either the starting push button switch or the Solenoid and an off to the boat to investigate and hopefully confirm prior to a one week cruise starting this weekend. The engine control panel is a Type B and I was wondering if anyone knew the make and/ or part #’s of a compatible push button switch and starting Solenoid. ** ** Thanks you in advance for any answers/suggestions. ** ** John Arpeggio Norwalk,CT ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Starting problems
Here is a remote starter switch: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009XQUKW/?tag=hyprod-20hvadid=15470396379hvpos=1o1hvexid=hvnetw=ghvrand=168824207439294199hvpone=hvptwo=hvqmt=ref=asc_df_B0009XQUKW Not much to it. I'm sure you can pick up something similar at any auto parts store. Joel On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Dennis C. capt...@yahoo.com wrote: John, Been down this road on a couple of boats with Yanmars. Likely problem areas, poor connection or connector on the positive wire from the starter switch, poor connection in the harness connector, poor connection or connector at the solenoid. Same for all negative wires. First, make sure you're getting a reliable 12 volts to the input of the ignition switch. If so, I would first replace the connector on the positive wire on the starter switch. Use a marine grade connector and coat both the connection and connector with USS TefGel and re-attach. If that doesn't fix it, test the switch several times with an ohmmeter. It should work immediately each try. If it doesn't replace it. Next, pull the engine harness connector apart, spray it with Boeshield T-9 (not WD-40), push it back together and pull it apart several times. See how that works. If it works, pull it apart, coat the connections with USS TefGel, put it back together and tape the mating surfaces. Next, replace the connector on the positive wire at the solenoid. The above steps have fixed intermittent starter problems on at least two Yanmar powered boats I've worked on. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA -- *From:* John Russo johnrussob...@optonline.net *To:* CnC-List@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 8, 2012 8:22 AM *Subject:* Stus-List Starting problems I just developed intermittent electrical starting problems on my 1984 CC 32 with a 2GMF engine. I assume it is either the starting push button switch or the Solenoid and an off to the boat to investigate and hopefully confirm prior to a one week cruise starting this weekend. The engine control panel is a Type B and I was wondering if anyone knew the make and/ or part #’s of a compatible push button switch and starting Solenoid. Thanks you in advance for any answers/suggestions. John Arpeggio Norwalk,CT ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
