Re: Stus-List Stringer and Keel repair 35 MK III
Is there a structural problem for C 35’s On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 1:35 PM David Swensen via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > That is quite a process. The yard suggested about 20k for that extent of a > repair. From what the surveyor sounded out, it seems to be a much smaller > sectionof the grid. > > So to restore as much structural integrity, Iwill have raise the hull off > the keel by a few inches on jackstands, replace/ restore the stringers, and > then rebed and glass in the keel. > > This I can do in my back yard. I think a lift would be necessary to > address any possible cracks in the fiberglass where the keel bolt holes are > drilled through. > > The yard also suggested just rebedding shimming, and glassing the keel > hull joint a as a less expensive option, and seeing how long it lasts. I am > leaning toward addressing the stringers for a longer term solution. Whereas > I would be doing most of t he work, I am glad to have this list and all the > knowledge you guys and gals have. > > David > S/v Freya > 35 MK lII > Salem, MA > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 12:00 PM wrote: > >> Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Re: Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III (CHARLES SCHEAFFER) >>2. Re: Folding deck chairs (Marek Dziedzic) >>3. Re: Folding deck chairs (Matthew) >>4. Re: Folding deck chairs (Dennis C.) >> >> >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:02:26 -0400 (EDT) >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III >> That repair job cost more than three times the value of the boat. Where >> are the keel bolts? Awlgrip in the bilge? Ch-ching $$$ >> >> CS >> >> On 07/24/2020 8:32 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List >> wrote: >> >> >> Coincidentally, I was just perusing a site yesterday that touched on this >> – a repair yard on the Hudson. >> >> >> >> http://marinestructuralsolutions.com/?page=jobs >> >> >> >> Bill Coleman >> >> Entrada, Erie PA >> >> >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *David >> Swensen via CnC-List >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2020 7:52 PM >> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Cc:* David Swensen >> *Subject:* Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III >> >> >> Unfortunately, I had to haul Feya because of a leaking at the most aft >> keel bolt. The surveyor at the yard has determined that the boat was >> grounded at one time and there is at least one stringer that has >> separated from the hull. ( I wish the surveyor for the purchase found >> this). When the hull is sounded in that area, it sounds like there >> are marbles inside. The plan is to repair the stringer and rebed and glass >> in the keel. I will be able to bring the boat to my backyard and do it on >> my time. I will have the yard rebed because they will drop the keel and >> eval the condition of the bottom of the keel stub, and repair if necessary. >> They will also place shims to decrease play at the joint. >> >> >> My question is, should the stringer be repaired before or after the keel >> hull joint? >> >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> >> David Swensen >> >> Freya >> >> C 35 MK III >> >> Salem, MA >> ___ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use >> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> >> >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: Marek Dziedzic >> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 15:19:34 + >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs >> >> We have an older version of the WM low
Re: Stus-List Stringer and Keel repair 35 MK III
Don’t live dangerously -- fix the stringers. From: CnC-List On Behalf Of David Swensen via CnC-List Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 12:35 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David Swensen Subject: Re: Stus-List Stringer and Keel repair 35 MK III That is quite a process. The yard suggested about 20k for that extent of a repair. From what the surveyor sounded out, it seems to be a much smaller sectionof the grid. So to restore as much structural integrity, Iwill have raise the hull off the keel by a few inches on jackstands, replace/ restore the stringers, and then rebed and glass in the keel. This I can do in my back yard. I think a lift would be necessary to address any possible cracks in the fiberglass where the keel bolt holes are drilled through. The yard also suggested just rebedding shimming, and glassing the keel hull joint a as a less expensive option, and seeing how long it lasts. I am leaning toward addressing the stringers for a longer term solution. Whereas I would be doing most of t he work, I am glad to have this list and all the knowledge you guys and gals have. David S/v Freya 35 MK lII Salem, MA On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 12:00 PM mailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> > wrote: Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III (CHARLES SCHEAFFER) 2. Re: Folding deck chairs (Marek Dziedzic) 3. Re: Folding deck chairs (Matthew) 4. Re: Folding deck chairs (Dennis C.) -- Forwarded message -- From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Bcc: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:02:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III That repair job cost more than three times the value of the boat. Where are the keel bolts? Awlgrip in the bilge? Ch-ching $$$ CS On 07/24/2020 8:32 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: Coincidentally, I was just perusing a site yesterday that touched on this – a repair yard on the Hudson. http://marinestructuralsolutions.com/?page=jobs Bill Coleman Entrada, Erie PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> ] On Behalf Of David Swensen via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 7:52 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: David Swensen Subject: Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III Unfortunately, I had to haul Feya because of a leaking at the most aft keel bolt. The surveyor at the yard has determined that the boat was grounded at one time and there is at least one stringer that has separated from the hull. ( I wish the surveyor for the purchase found this). When the hull is sounded in that area, it sounds like there are marbles inside. The plan is to repair the stringer and rebed and glass in the keel. I will be able to bring the boat to my backyard and do it on my time. I will have the yard rebed because they will drop the keel and eval the condition of the bottom of the keel stub, and repair if necessary. They will also place shims to decrease play at the joint. My question is, should the stringer be repaired before or after the keel hull joint? Thanks in advance. David Swensen Freya C 35 MK III Salem, MA ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray -- Forwarded message -- From: Marek Dziedzic mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> " mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Bcc: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 15:19:34 + Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs We have an older version of the WM low-back seat (it is a bit higher, I think, than what WM sells now, and it does not have the opening at the hinge). We use it all the time. WM used to have a longer back version, as well. It supports your back quite well and it can be used flat, as a cockpit cushion. We have cockpit cushions, but usually, we just use these folding seats instead. Marek
Re: Stus-List Stringer and Keel repair 35 MK III
I added some longitudinal stringers to a 24 foot racer years ago. The owner wanted to strengthen the hull in the aft section. I used preformed foam core stringers like these. https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/document.do?docId=679 They worked great. Very easy to work with. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 11:35 AM David Swensen via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > That is quite a process. The yard suggested about 20k for that extent of a > repair. From what the surveyor sounded out, it seems to be a much smaller > sectionof the grid. > > So to restore as much structural integrity, Iwill have raise the hull off > the keel by a few inches on jackstands, replace/ restore the stringers, and > then rebed and glass in the keel. > > This I can do in my back yard. I think a lift would be necessary to > address any possible cracks in the fiberglass where the keel bolt holes are > drilled through. > > The yard also suggested just rebedding shimming, and glassing the keel > hull joint a as a less expensive option, and seeing how long it lasts. I am > leaning toward addressing the stringers for a longer term solution. Whereas > I would be doing most of t he work, I am glad to have this list and all the > knowledge you guys and gals have. > > David > > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Stringer and Keel repair 35 MK III
That is quite a process. The yard suggested about 20k for that extent of a repair. From what the surveyor sounded out, it seems to be a much smaller sectionof the grid. So to restore as much structural integrity, Iwill have raise the hull off the keel by a few inches on jackstands, replace/ restore the stringers, and then rebed and glass in the keel. This I can do in my back yard. I think a lift would be necessary to address any possible cracks in the fiberglass where the keel bolt holes are drilled through. The yard also suggested just rebedding shimming, and glassing the keel hull joint a as a less expensive option, and seeing how long it lasts. I am leaning toward addressing the stringers for a longer term solution. Whereas I would be doing most of t he work, I am glad to have this list and all the knowledge you guys and gals have. David S/v Freya 35 MK lII Salem, MA On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 12:00 PM wrote: > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III (CHARLES SCHEAFFER) >2. Re: Folding deck chairs (Marek Dziedzic) >3. Re: Folding deck chairs (Matthew) >4. Re: Folding deck chairs (Dennis C.) > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:02:26 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III > That repair job cost more than three times the value of the boat. Where > are the keel bolts? Awlgrip in the bilge? Ch-ching $$$ > > CS > > On 07/24/2020 8:32 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List > wrote: > > > Coincidentally, I was just perusing a site yesterday that touched on this > – a repair yard on the Hudson. > > > > http://marinestructuralsolutions.com/?page=jobs > > > > Bill Coleman > > Entrada, Erie PA > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *David > Swensen via CnC-List > *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2020 7:52 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* David Swensen > *Subject:* Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III > > > Unfortunately, I had to haul Feya because of a leaking at the most aft > keel bolt. The surveyor at the yard has determined that the boat was > grounded at one time and there is at least one stringer that has > separated from the hull. ( I wish the surveyor for the purchase found > this). When the hull is sounded in that area, it sounds like there > are marbles inside. The plan is to repair the stringer and rebed and glass > in the keel. I will be able to bring the boat to my backyard and do it on > my time. I will have the yard rebed because they will drop the keel and > eval the condition of the bottom of the keel stub, and repair if necessary. > They will also place shims to decrease play at the joint. > > > My question is, should the stringer be repaired before or after the keel > hull joint? > > > Thanks in advance. > > > David Swensen > > Freya > > C 35 MK III > > Salem, MA > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Marek Dziedzic > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 15:19:34 + > Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs > > We have an older version of the WM low-back seat (it is a bit higher, I > think, than what WM sells now, and it does not have the opening at the > hinge). We use it all the time. WM used to have a longer back version, as > well. > > > > It supports your back quite well and it can be used flat, as a cockpit > cushion. > > > > We have cockpit cushions, but usually, we just use these folding seats > instead. > > > > Marek > > > > *From:* CnC-List *On Behalf Of *Edd Schillay via CnC-List > *Sent:* 24 July, 2020 10:37 > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Edd Schillay > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs > > > > Da
Re: Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III
That repair job cost more than three times the value of the boat. Where are the keel bolts? Awlgrip in the bilge? Ch-ching $$$ CS > On 07/24/2020 8:32 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List > wrote: > > > > Coincidentally, I was just perusing a site yesterday that touched on this > – a repair yard on the Hudson. > > > > http://marinestructuralsolutions.com/?page=jobs > > > > Bill Coleman > > Entrada, Erie PA > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David > Swensen via CnC-List > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 7:52 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: David Swensen > Subject: Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III > > > Unfortunately, I had to haul Feya because of a leaking at the most aft > keel bolt. The surveyor at the yard has determined that the boat was grounded > at one time and there is at least one stringer that has separated from the > hull. ( I wish the surveyor for the purchase found this). When the hull is > sounded in that area, it sounds like there are marbles inside. The plan is to > repair the stringer and rebed and glass in the keel. I will be able to bring > the boat to my backyard and do it on my time. I will have the yard rebed > because they will drop the keel and eval the condition of the bottom of the > keel stub, and repair if necessary. They will also place shims to decrease > play at the joint. > > > My question is, should the stringer be repaired before or after the keel > hull joint? > > > Thanks in advance. > > > David Swensen > > Freya > > C 35 MK III > > Salem, MA > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III
Coincidentally, I was just perusing a site yesterday that touched on this – a repair yard on the Hudson. http://marinestructuralsolutions.com/?page=jobs Bill Coleman Entrada, Erie PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Swensen via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 7:52 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David Swensen Subject: Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III Unfortunately, I had to haul Feya because of a leaking at the most aft keel bolt. The surveyor at the yard has determined that the boat was grounded at one time and there is at least one stringer that has separated from the hull. ( I wish the surveyor for the purchase found this). When the hull is sounded in that area, it sounds like there are marbles inside. The plan is to repair the stringer and rebed and glass in the keel. I will be able to bring the boat to my backyard and do it on my time. I will have the yard rebed because they will drop the keel and eval the condition of the bottom of the keel stub, and repair if necessary. They will also place shims to decrease play at the joint. My question is, should the stringer be repaired before or after the keel hull joint? Thanks in advance. David Swensen Freya C 35 MK III Salem, MA ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III
Hi Davis, This is a very good question. I would drop the keel and restore the stringer/hull integrity first! This is the basis of your keel/hull interface. The rebed of keel is fairly routine once this is done. Cheers, Russ At 04:52 PM 7/23/2020, you wrote: Unfortunately, I had to haul Feya because of a leaking at the most aft keel bolt. The surveyor at the yard has determined that the boat was grounded at one time and there is at least one stringer that has separated from the hull. ( I wish the surveyor for the purchase found this). When the hull is sounded in that area, it sounds like there are marbles inside. The plan is to repair the stringer and rebed and glass in the keel. I will be able to bring the boat to my backyard and do it on my time. I will have the yard rebed because they will drop the keel and eval the condition of the bottom of the keel stub, and repair if necessary. They will also place shims to decrease play at the joint. My question is, should the stringer be repaired before or after the keel hull joint? Thanks in advance. David Swensen Freya C 35 MK III Salem, MA ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III
Unfortunately, I had to haul Feya because of a leaking at the most aft keel bolt. The surveyor at the yard has determined that the boat was grounded at one time and there is at least one stringer that has separated from the hull. ( I wish the surveyor for the purchase found this). When the hull is sounded in that area, it sounds like there are marbles inside. The plan is to repair the stringer and rebed and glass in the keel. I will be able to bring the boat to my backyard and do it on my time. I will have the yard rebed because they will drop the keel and eval the condition of the bottom of the keel stub, and repair if necessary. They will also place shims to decrease play at the joint. My question is, should the stringer be repaired before or after the keel hull joint? Thanks in advance. David Swensen Freya C 35 MK III Salem, MA ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
