Re: Stus-List Stupid Club

2015-05-20 Thread David Lenehan via CnC-List
This is such an interesting thread that I thought I'd expose myself to some
laughter too.  As a matter of added interest, I joined the Stupid Club on
the day after I joined the Hypocrit's Club.

Years ago I had a lovely long line that I decided I'd use as a genoa
sheet.  It was a beautiful length of brand new polyester braid back when
polyester rope was still something of a novelty.  I sat back and admired my
work noting that the sheet was a bit longer than it needed to be.

Not to worry, I told myself smugly, I'll sort that out later.

The next morning we were motoring out for our race.  I was a first year
skipper in my first keel boat.  We were far ahead in the standings and only
had to finish this race to take home the silverware.  I was dreaming of the
glory instead of watching what everyone was doing.  I instructed the crew
to set up as we usually did and one of the inexperienced crew dropped the
end of the genoa sheet over the side and didn't recover it immediately.

Yes, you guessed it!  It wrapped itself around the prop and the shaft shaft
and we started taking on water.  Large volumes of it.  Didn't start the
race, didn't take the trophy home and nearly didn't get the boat home
either.  The list of damage it caused is too long to tell but it cost a
fortune and did some serious ego bashing.  A host of lessons learned.

Red faced for months,
David

On 20 May 2015 at 14:47, Knowles Rich via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 I used my 7 litre Pela vacuum extractor to empty the sump on my 3QM30 one
 fall and then kicked it over on the way up the companionway. Had to yank
 the sole and swab out the engine compartment. About three hours as I
 recall. Nice!

 Rich


 On May 19, 2015, at 19:08, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:

 I left the oil cap off once.  Ran the boat hard for 6 hours before I
 noticed.  Also had the mess.

 Chuck
 Resolute
 1990 CC 34R
 Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

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 *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Cc: *robert robertabb...@eastlink.ca
 *Sent: *Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:23:50 PM
 *Subject: *Stus-List Rig - crack?

 Wally:
 I have no problem admitting to my mental limitationsif I were that
 smart, I wouldn't be sailing a 31 year old boat and I wouldn't be doing
 all of the maintenance/work myself.  Possibly explains why I am a big
 fan of the CC list.

 Here's another example of 'stupid'..changed the engine oil last Fall
 just before haul outstarted the engine after the oil change but just
 long enough to hear the engine alarm go 'off'launched this Spring
 and went for a half hour motor before docking.noticed some oil in
 the bilgenow we get to the 'stupid'..forgot to put the oil cap
 back on the to of the engine last Fall after the oil changesome oil
 spurted out of the top of the engine and made a mess all the way to the
 bilge.

 Had a big clean up.I am a full member of the 'stupid club' and
 freely admit it!

 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 CC 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S.

 On 2015-05-14 11:04 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List wrote:
  you wrote:
  Steve:
   Instantly, now I feel stupid
 
  Welcome to the club.
 
 
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Re: Stus-List Stupid Club

2015-05-20 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
David

Let me guess.  Shaft pulled back, shaft seal or stuffing box compromised, 
coupler detached and probable damage to strut and stern tube?

Don’t ask me how I know.  Suffice it to say that I also belong in the club.

On the bright side insurance often covers Stupid and in this case it does.

Mike
Persistence
Halifax

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 3:13 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: David Lenehan
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stupid Club

This is such an interesting thread that I thought I'd expose myself to some 
laughter too.  As a matter of added interest, I joined the Stupid Club on the 
day after I joined the Hypocrit's Club.

Years ago I had a lovely long line that I decided I'd use as a genoa sheet.  It 
was a beautiful length of brand new polyester braid back when polyester rope 
was still something of a novelty.  I sat back and admired my work noting that 
the sheet was a bit longer than it needed to be.

Not to worry, I told myself smugly, I'll sort that out later.
The next morning we were motoring out for our race.  I was a first year skipper 
in my first keel boat.  We were far ahead in the standings and only had to 
finish this race to take home the silverware.  I was dreaming of the glory 
instead of watching what everyone was doing.  I instructed the crew to set up 
as we usually did and one of the inexperienced crew dropped the end of the 
genoa sheet over the side and didn't recover it immediately.
Yes, you guessed it!  It wrapped itself around the prop and the shaft shaft and 
we started taking on water.  Large volumes of it.  Didn't start the race, 
didn't take the trophy home and nearly didn't get the boat home either.  The 
list of damage it caused is too long to tell but it cost a fortune and did some 
serious ego bashing.  A host of lessons learned.
Red faced for months,
David

On 20 May 2015 at 14:47, Knowles Rich via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
I used my 7 litre Pela vacuum extractor to empty the sump on my 3QM30 one fall 
and then kicked it over on the way up the companionway. Had to yank the sole 
and swab out the engine compartment. About three hours as I recall. Nice!

Rich

On May 19, 2015, at 19:08, Chuck S via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

I left the oil cap off once.  Ran the boat hard for 6 hours before I noticed.  
Also had the mess.

Chuck
Resolute
1990 CC 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md


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Cc: robert robertabb...@eastlink.camailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:23:50 PM
Subject: Stus-List Rig - crack?

Wally:
I have no problem admitting to my mental limitationsif I were that
smart, I wouldn't be sailing a 31 year old boat and I wouldn't be doing
all of the maintenance/work myself.  Possibly explains why I am a big
fan of the CC list.

Here's another example of 'stupid'..changed the engine oil last Fall
just before haul outstarted the engine after the oil change but just
long enough to hear the engine alarm go 'off'launched this Spring
and went for a half hour motor before docking.noticed some oil in
the bilgenow we get to the 'stupid'..forgot to put the oil cap
back on the to of the engine last Fall after the oil changesome oil
spurted out of the top of the engine and made a mess all the way to the
bilge.

Had a big clean up.I am a full member of the 'stupid club' and
freely admit it!

Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2015-05-14 11:04 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List wrote:
 you wrote:
 Steve:
  Instantly, now I feel stupid

 Welcome to the club.


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Re: Stus-List Stupid Club

2015-05-20 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List

Aniother stupid oil trick!

Pumped oil out of my Beta 25, changed filter, added what seemed like more oil 
than should have been necessary and started her up.

Ran fine until oil pressure alarm sounded, shut down, checked level, seemed low 
so added another quart or so (figured the oil filter was now full),
started her up and in another few moments oil alarm goes off again.

Went below to look around and to my HORROR found that most of my aft cabin  
(cushions, ceiling, cabinet covers, etc.) was covered in oil and the aft sole
had about 1/2 inch of oil on it!  Sat down, about cried, cursed for 10 minutes 
at least at what had happened--and I had changed the oil many times before so 
this was
a really stupid trick.

Not certain but a combination of a not tight enough oil filter, or it might 
have blown a hole in the filter itself plus adding too much oil forced the 
extra out the filter seal and
the oil overflow tube which conveniently dripped the excess oil behind the fan 
on the alternator. With the access panel off for the oil change, the oil was 
blown mostly out
of the engine space into my aft cabin.

Several cover washings with lots of Shout got it out of them after destroying 
most of the zippers to get them off the cushions--good old ultrasuede now 20 
years old and well washed!.

Had to have the zippers and upholstery buttons replaced on all 4 cushions plus 
an entirely new cushion for the largest one (of course). Total cost ~ $600 plus
about 8 hours of work/aggravation to clean the cabin and covers. Lessons 
learned about being careful on even such simple jobs--PRICELESS!

Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
CC 36 XL/kcb

cenel...@aol.com




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From: Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck S cscheaf...@comcast.net
Sent: Tue, May 19, 2015 10:08 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stupid Club



I left the oil cap off once.  Ran the boat hard for 6 hours before I noticed.  
Also had the mess. 



Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 CC 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 



From: robert via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: robert robertabb...@eastlink.ca 
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:23:50 PM 
Subject: Stus-List Rig - crack? 



Wally: 
I have no problem admitting to my mental limitationsif I were that 
smart, I wouldn't be sailing a 31 year old boat and I wouldn't be doing 
all of the maintenance/work myself.  Possibly explains why I am a big 
fan of the CC list. 



Here's another example of 'stupid'..changed the engine oil last Fall 
just before haul outstarted the engine after the oil change but just 
long enough to hear the engine alarm go 'off'launched this Spring 
and went for a half hour motor before docking.noticed some oil in 
the bilgenow we get to the 'stupid'..forgot to put the oil cap 
back on the to of the engine last Fall after the oil changesome oil 
spurted out of the top of the engine and made a mess all the way to the 
bilge. 



Had a big clean up.I am a full member of the 'stupid club' and 
freely admit it! 



Rob Abbott 
AZURA 
CC 32 - 84 
Halifax, N.S. 



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  Instantly, now I feel stupid 
 
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Re: Stus-List Stupid Club

2015-05-20 Thread jackbrennan via CnC-List
About 30 - some years ago, a friend of mine and I decided to sail my 19 footer 
from Fort Lauderdale to the Upper Keys.

Being in our 20s, our provisions were a loaf of bread, a jar of peanut butter, 
a plastic container of water, several packs of cigarettes and two cases of beer.

We had no radio, so we didn't know a tropical wave had formed. We were forced 
to take shelter on an uninhabited island called Elliott Key.

Once at a small dock there, we stupidly left the hatch partly open - allowing a 
raccoon to crawl in, slash the water container, eat the loaf of bread and shred 
the cigarettes.

By the time we got back from exploring the island, the raccoon had opened the 
peanut butter and was walking around the dock with his head inside the jar.

We were saved when a German showed up with his son on another small sailboat. 
He had plenty of food and cigarettes, but no beer to pass the two days it took 
for the storm to pass. 

We were able to strike a deal.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab®|PRO

 Original message 
From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Date:05/20/2015  9:37 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stupid Club 

I don’t know if anyone else on the list has been following Michael Robertson’s 
blog, aboard the sailing vessel Del Viento; he also writes columns for Cruising 
World.  They just reached the Marquesas, having left Mexico a few weeks ago.  
He writes about an “ooops” in a recent post:

http://www.logofdelviento.blogspot.com/2015/04/day-9-at-end-of-our-rope.html

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On May 20, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

Aniother stupid oil trick!
 
Pumped oil out of my Beta 25, changed filter, added what seemed like more oil 
than should have been necessary and started her up.
 
Ran fine until oil pressure alarm sounded, shut down, checked level, seemed low 
so added another quart or so (figured the oil filter was now full),
started her up and in another few moments oil alarm goes off again.
 
Went below to look around and to my HORROR found that most of my aft cabin  
(cushions, ceiling, cabinet covers, etc.) was covered in oil and the aft sole
had about 1/2 inch of oil on it!  Sat down, about cried, cursed for 10 minutes 
at least at what had happened--and I had changed the oil many times before so 
this was
a really stupid trick.
 
Not certain but a combination of a not tight enough oil filter, or it might 
have blown a hole in the filter itself plus adding too much oil forced the 
extra out the filter seal and
the oil overflow tube which conveniently dripped the excess oil behind the fan 
on the alternator. With the access panel off for the oil change, the oil was 
blown mostly out
of the engine space into my aft cabin.
 
Several cover washings with lots of Shout got it out of them after destroying 
most of the zippers to get them off the cushions--good old ultrasuede now 20 
years old and well washed!.
 
Had to have the zippers and upholstery buttons replaced on all 4 cushions plus 
an entirely new cushion for the largest one (of course). Total cost ~ $600 plus
about 8 hours of work/aggravation to clean the cabin and covers. Lessons 
learned about being careful on even such simple jobs--PRICELESS!
 
Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
CC 36 XL/kcb
 
cenel...@aol.com


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From: Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck S cscheaf...@comcast.net
Sent: Tue, May 19, 2015 10:08 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stupid Club

I left the oil cap off once.  Ran the boat hard for 6 hours before I noticed.  
Also had the mess. 

Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 CC 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

From: robert via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: robert robertabb...@eastlink.ca 
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:23:50 PM 
Subject: Stus-List Rig - crack? 

Wally: 
I have no problem admitting to my mental limitationsif I were that 
smart, I wouldn't be sailing a 31 year old boat and I wouldn't be doing 
all of the maintenance/work myself.  Possibly explains why I am a big 
fan of the CC list. 

Here's another example of 'stupid'..changed the engine oil last Fall 
just before haul outstarted the engine after the oil change but just 
long enough to hear the engine alarm go 'off'launched this Spring 
and went for a half hour motor before docking.noticed some oil in 
the bilgenow we get to the 'stupid'..forgot to put the oil cap 
back on the to of the engine last Fall after the oil changesome oil 
spurted out of the top of the engine and made a mess all the way to the 
bilge. 

Had a big clean up.I am a full member of the 'stupid club' and 
freely admit it! 

Rob Abbott 
AZURA 
CC 32 - 84 
Halifax, N.S

Stus-List Stupid Club

2015-05-20 Thread robert via CnC-List
Being a full fledged member myself, I love the old saying There is a 
major difference between intelligence and stupidity; intelligence has 
its limits.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2015-05-20 9:28 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:


David

Let me guess.  Shaft pulled back, shaft seal or stuffing box 
compromised, coupler detached and probable damage to strut and stern tube?


Don’t ask me how I know.  Suffice it to say that I also belong in the 
club.


On the bright side insurance often covers Stupid and in this case it does.

Mike

Persistence

Halifax

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*David Lenehan via CnC-List

*Sent:* Wednesday, May 20, 2015 3:13 AM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* David Lenehan
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stupid Club

This is such an interesting thread that I thought I'd expose myself to 
some laughter too.  As a matter of added interest, I joined the Stupid 
Club on the day after I joined the Hypocrit's Club.


Years ago I had a lovely long line that I decided I'd use as a genoa 
sheet.  It was a beautiful length of brand new polyester braid back 
when polyester rope was still something of a novelty.  I sat back and 
admired my work noting that the sheet was a bit longer than it needed 
to be.


Not to worry, I told myself smugly, I'll sort that out later.

The next morning we were motoring out for our race.  I was a first 
year skipper in my first keel boat.  We were far ahead in the 
standings and only had to finish this race to take home the 
silverware.  I was dreaming of the glory instead of watching what 
everyone was doing.  I instructed the crew to set up as we usually did 
and one of the inexperienced crew dropped the end of the genoa sheet 
over the side and didn't recover it immediately.


Yes, you guessed it!  It wrapped itself around the prop and the shaft 
shaft and we started taking on water.  Large volumes of it. Didn't 
start the race, didn't take the trophy home and nearly didn't get the 
boat home either.  The list of damage it caused is too long to tell 
but it cost a fortune and did some serious ego bashing.  A host of 
lessons learned.


Red faced for months,

David

On 20 May 2015 at 14:47, Knowles Rich via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:


I used my 7 litre Pela vacuum extractor to empty the sump on my 3QM30 
one fall and then kicked it over on the way up the companionway. Had 
to yank the sole and swab out the engine compartment. About three 
hours as I recall. Nice!


Rich

On May 19, 2015, at 19:08, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:


I left the oil cap off once.  Ran the boat hard for 6 hours before I 
noticed.  Also had the mess.


Chuck
*/Resolute/*
1990 CC 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md



*From: *robert via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com

*To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc: *robert robertabb...@eastlink.ca 
mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca

*Sent: *Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:23:50 PM
*Subject: *Stus-List Rig - crack?

Wally:
I have no problem admitting to my mental limitationsif I were that
smart, I wouldn't be sailing a 31 year old boat and I wouldn't be doing
all of the maintenance/work myself. Possibly explains why I am a big
fan of the CC list.

Here's another example of 'stupid'..changed the engine oil last Fall
just before haul outstarted the engine after the oil change but just
long enough to hear the engine alarm go 'off'launched this Spring
and went for a half hour motor before docking.noticed some oil in
the bilgenow we get to the 'stupid'..forgot to put the oil cap
back on the to of the engine last Fall after the oil changesome oil
spurted out of the top of the engine and made a mess all the way to the
bilge.

Had a big clean up.I am a full member of the 'stupid club' and
freely admit it!

Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2015-05-14 11:04 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List wrote:
 you wrote:
 Steve:
  Instantly, now I feel stupid

 Welcome to the club.


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Re: Stus-List Stupid Club

2015-05-20 Thread svpegasus38




  

Amen. Life is tough, it's harder when you are stupid. And, You cant fix 
stupid. Just when you think something is idiot proof, along comes an improved 
idiot. I am on the 4th assembly of a VW engine for doing stupid stuff. The best 
part about doing sstupithings is you get to laugh at your self later over a 
beer. I had to go diving in Nanaimo to cut loose my dinghy painter. Did I 
mention no wet suit, goggles, or snorkel? The second time for a.bow line I 
hired a diver. Cost me $100 worth every penny.
Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA.


-- Original message--From: robert via CnC-ListDate: Wed, May 20, 2015 
06:43To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: robert;Subject:Stus-List Stupid Club
Being a full fledged member myself, I love the old saying There isa major 
difference between intelligence and stupidity; intelligencehas its limits.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2015-05-20 9:28 AM, Hoyt, Mike via  CnC-List wrote:
  David Let 
   me guess.  Shaft pulled back, shaft seal or stuffing box
compromised, coupler detached and probable damage to strutand stern 
tube? Don’task me how I know.  Suffice it to say 
that I also belong inthe club. Onthe 
bright side insurance often covers Stupid and in thiscase it does.  
   MikePersistenceHalifax From: 
   CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of 
David Lenehan via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 3:13 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: David Lenehan
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stupid Club  
 This is such an interestingthread that I thought I'd 
expose myself to some laughtertoo.  As a matter of added 
interest, I joined the StupidClub on the day after I joined the 
Hypocrit's Club.

Years ago I had a lovely long line that I decided I'd   
 use as a genoa sheet.  It was a beautiful length ofbrand 
new polyester braid back when polyester rope wasstill something 
of a novelty.  I sat back and admired mywork noting that the 
sheet was a bit longer than itneeded to be.

Not to worry, I told myself smugly, I'll sort that   
 out later.The next morning we were
motoring out for our race.  I was a first year skipper
in my first keel boat.  We were far ahead in thestandings and 
only had to finish this race to take homethe silverware.  I was 
dreaming of the glory instead ofwatching what everyone was 
doing.  I instructed the crewto set up as we usually did and 
one of the inexperiencedcrew dropped the end of the genoa sheet 
over the sideand didn't recover it immediately. 
   Yes, you guessed it!  Itwrapped itself around 
the prop and the shaft shaft andwe started taking on water.  
Large volumes of it. Didn't start the race, didn't take the 
trophy home andnearly didn't get the boat home either.  The 
list ofdamage it caused is too long to tell but it cost a   
 fortune and did some serious ego bashing.  A host of
lessons learned.Redfaced for 
months,David
   On 20 May 2015 at 14:47, Knowles Rich  via 
CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com  wrote:  I 
used my 7 litre Pela vacuumextractor to empty the sump on my 
3QM30 one fall andthen kicked it over on the way up the 
companionway. Hadto yank the sole and swab out the engine 
compartment.About three hours as I recall. Nice!
    
   Rich     

   On May 19, 2015, at 19:08,  
Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com  wrote:
    
   I
  left the oil cap off once.  Ran the boat  
hard

Re: Stus-List Stupid Club

2015-05-20 Thread David Lenehan via CnC-List
The boat was Windborne, Fred.  I'm in Australia.

On 21 May 2015 at 08:33, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 David — do you live in Australia, or is “Down Under” the name of your
 (formerly nearly sunk) boat?   :^)

 Fred Street -- Minneapolis
 S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

 On May 20, 2015, at 5:21 PM, David Lenehan via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 David
 (Down Under)



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Re: Stus-List Stupid Club

2015-05-20 Thread David Lenehan via CnC-List
Mike Hoyt wrote:
Let me guess.  Shaft pulled back, shaft seal or stuffing box compromised,
coupler detached and probable damage to strut and stern tube?

Actually, Mike, it was all that and much more.  We went within a whisker of
losing the boat.  so there was a massive amount if damage internally as
well.  She was on the hard for nearly two months drying out then being
almost completely rebuilt inside, new wiring, new electronics and on and on
it went.

What saved her was that we inflated two 12' inflatable dinghies inside the
cabin.  That gave her a lot  more buoyancy.

When our volunteer coast guard arrived, their self-priming pump wouldn't
work.  They finally called for another coast guard boat and their crew took
over from ours on the pumps and buckets.  Looking back it was a little
comical but it certainly wasn't at the time.

David
(Down Under)

On 21 May 2015 at 02:27, svpegasu...@gmail.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

  Amen. Life is tough, it's harder when you are stupid. And, You cant fix
 stupid. Just when you think something is idiot proof, along comes an
 improved idiot.

 I am on the 4th assembly of a VW engine for doing stupid stuff. The best
 part about doing sstupithings is you get to laugh at your self later over a
 beer. I had to go diving in Nanaimo to cut loose my dinghy painter. Did I
 mention no wet suit, goggles, or snorkel? The second time for a.bow line
 I hired a diver. Cost me $100 worth every penny.


 Doug Mountjoy

 svPegasus

 LF38

 just west of Ballard, WA.

  -- Original message--

 *From: *robert via CnC-List

 *Date: *Wed, May 20, 2015 06:43

 *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com;

 *Cc: *robert;

 *Subject:*Stus-List Stupid Club
 Being a full fledged member myself, I love the old saying There is a
 major difference between intelligence and stupidity; intelligence has its
 limits.

 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 CC 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S.

 On 2015-05-20 9:28 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:

  David



 Let me guess.  Shaft pulled back, shaft seal or stuffing box compromised,
 coupler detached and probable damage to strut and stern tube?



 Don’t ask me how I know.  Suffice it to say that I also belong in the club.



 On the bright side insurance often covers Stupid and in this case it does.



 Mike

 Persistence

 Halifax



 *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
 cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *David Lenehan via CnC-List
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 20, 2015 3:13 AM
 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Cc:* David Lenehan
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stupid Club



 This is such an interesting thread that I thought I'd expose myself to
 some laughter too.  As a matter of added interest, I joined the Stupid Club
 on the day after I joined the Hypocrit's Club.

 Years ago I had a lovely long line that I decided I'd use as a genoa
 sheet.  It was a beautiful length of brand new polyester braid back when
 polyester rope was still something of a novelty.  I sat back and admired my
 work noting that the sheet was a bit longer than it needed to be.

 Not to worry, I told myself smugly, I'll sort that out later.

 The next morning we were motoring out for our race.  I was a first year
 skipper in my first keel boat.  We were far ahead in the standings and only
 had to finish this race to take home the silverware.  I was dreaming of the
 glory instead of watching what everyone was doing.  I instructed the crew
 to set up as we usually did and one of the inexperienced crew dropped the
 end of the genoa sheet over the side and didn't recover it immediately.

 Yes, you guessed it!  It wrapped itself around the prop and the shaft
 shaft and we started taking on water.  Large volumes of it.  Didn't start
 the race, didn't take the trophy home and nearly didn't get the boat home
 either.  The list of damage it caused is too long to tell but it cost a
 fortune and did some serious ego bashing.  A host of lessons learned.

 Red faced for months,

 David



 On 20 May 2015 at 14:47, Knowles Rich via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:

 I used my 7 litre Pela vacuum extractor to empty the sump on my 3QM30 one
 fall and then kicked it over on the way up the companionway. Had to yank
 the sole and swab out the engine compartment. About three hours as I
 recall. Nice!



 Rich



 On May 19, 2015, at 19:08, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:



 I left the oil cap off once.  Ran the boat hard for 6 hours before I
 noticed.  Also had the mess.



 Chuck
 *Resolute*
 1990 CC 34R
 Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md


  --

 *From: *robert via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Cc: *robert robertabb...@eastlink.ca
 *Sent: *Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:23:50 PM
 *Subject: *Stus-List Rig - crack?



 Wally:
 I have no problem admitting to my mental limitationsif I were that
 smart, I wouldn't be sailing a 31 year old boat and I wouldn't be doing
 all of the maintenance/work myself.  Possibly explains why I am

Re: Stus-List Stupid Club

2015-05-20 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
David — do you live in Australia, or is “Down Under” the name of your (formerly 
nearly sunk) boat?   :^)

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

 On May 20, 2015, at 5:21 PM, David Lenehan via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 David
 (Down Under)

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Re: Stus-List Stupid Club

2015-05-19 Thread Knowles Rich via CnC-List
I used my 7 litre Pela vacuum extractor to empty the sump on my 3QM30 one fall 
and then kicked it over on the way up the companionway. Had to yank the sole 
and swab out the engine compartment. About three hours as I recall. Nice!

Rich 


On May 19, 2015, at 19:08, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

I left the oil cap off once.  Ran the boat hard for 6 hours before I noticed.  
Also had the mess.

Chuck
Resolute
1990 CC 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

From: robert via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: robert robertabb...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:23:50 PM
Subject: Stus-List Rig - crack?

Wally:
I have no problem admitting to my mental limitationsif I were that 
smart, I wouldn't be sailing a 31 year old boat and I wouldn't be doing 
all of the maintenance/work myself.  Possibly explains why I am a big 
fan of the CC list.

Here's another example of 'stupid'..changed the engine oil last Fall 
just before haul outstarted the engine after the oil change but just 
long enough to hear the engine alarm go 'off'launched this Spring 
and went for a half hour motor before docking.noticed some oil in 
the bilgenow we get to the 'stupid'..forgot to put the oil cap 
back on the to of the engine last Fall after the oil changesome oil 
spurted out of the top of the engine and made a mess all the way to the 
bilge.

Had a big clean up.I am a full member of the 'stupid club' and 
freely admit it!

Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2015-05-14 11:04 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List wrote:
 you wrote:
 Steve:
  Instantly, now I feel stupid

 Welcome to the club.


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INDIGO LF38
Almost sold in Halifax, NS.





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Re: Stus-List Stupid Club

2015-05-19 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
I left the oil cap off once. Ran the boat hard for 6 hours before I noticed. 
Also had the mess. 

Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 CC 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

- Original Message -

From: robert via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: robert robertabb...@eastlink.ca 
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:23:50 PM 
Subject: Stus-List Rig - crack? 

Wally: 
I have no problem admitting to my mental limitationsif I were that 
smart, I wouldn't be sailing a 31 year old boat and I wouldn't be doing 
all of the maintenance/work myself. Possibly explains why I am a big 
fan of the CC list. 

Here's another example of 'stupid'..changed the engine oil last Fall 
just before haul outstarted the engine after the oil change but just 
long enough to hear the engine alarm go 'off'launched this Spring 
and went for a half hour motor before docking.noticed some oil in 
the bilgenow we get to the 'stupid'..forgot to put the oil cap 
back on the to of the engine last Fall after the oil changesome oil 
spurted out of the top of the engine and made a mess all the way to the 
bilge. 

Had a big clean up.I am a full member of the 'stupid club' and 
freely admit it! 

Rob Abbott 
AZURA 
CC 32 - 84 
Halifax, N.S. 

On 2015-05-14 11:04 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List wrote: 
 you wrote: 
 Steve: 
 Instantly, now I feel stupid 
 
 Welcome to the club. 
 
 
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