Re: Stus-List Thru Hull leaking from handle / cylinder
I agree 100% with Jim. It's an old school design but still completely serviceable. Gas utilities still install tapered plug valves today for the shutoff on your gas service. Eric On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 9:41 PM Jim Watts via CnC-List wrote: > That looks pretty much like mine. The bad ones I refaced (or defaced) with > valve grinding compound and put a heavy coating of Lanocote on the whole > thing before reassembling. They are a mite difficult to turn in winter but > they don't leak. I would advise doing this out of the water. In the > meantime, you could unscrew the square nuts on the side of the unit, screw > in a zerc fitting, and pump some heavy grease into it while in the water. > > Jim Watts > Paradigm Shift > C&C 35 Mk III > Victoria, BC > > > On Mon, 6 May 2019 at 10:19, John Christopher via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> I don’t think you can see the full seacock but this was the leak. >> >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/T5NHhWbUy1ynxMEq7 >> >> >> /John >> >> On May 5, 2019, at 9:19 PM, sender wrote: >> >> can you post a link to a picture? My 1981 gas an obsolete style Groco >> cylinrical looking seacock. The rubber compound in them is NOT compatible >> with conventional greases. >> Eric >> >> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 4:19 PM G Collins via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi John >>> >>> You could try tightening it, you will need two wrenches, one of them >>> thin enough to get to the thinner nut. I bought a cheap wrench and >>> attacked it with an angle grinder. >>> >>> Alternatively, if the seacock cone isn't loose, best option while in the >>> water is to put grease nipples on the sides if they aren't there already >>> (you mention they are?), get a grease gun at Harbor Freight / Princess Auto >>> (depending on USA / Canada location), and crank some grease into it. Make >>> sure the handle is in the "open" position. >>> >>> Good reference at >>> https://marinehowto.com/servicing-tapered-cone-seacocks/ >>> >>> First season I had SP in the water her seacocks leaked, I greased them >>> and was fine for the season. I pulled a couple of them next time she was >>> on the hard and used lapping compound to get a good seal on them. >>> >>> Graham Collins >>> Secret Plans >>> C&C 35-III #11 >>> >>> On 2019-05-05 12:08 p.m., John Christopher via CnC-List wrote: >>> >>> Sorry all, referring to seacock is dripping around the handle. >>> >>> >>> >>> /John >>> >>> On May 5, 2019, at 10:28 AM, John Christopher >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Just launched my C&C 1983 Landfall 38. >>> >>> Noticed one thru hull fitting from the cylinder where the handle >>> attaches. I see what looks like has 2 grease nipples. It is not leaking >>> from the base (I.e not the thru hull itself). >>> >>> Thoughts on fixing? Does it need to come out of the water? >>> >>> >>> /John >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and >>> every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use >>> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >>> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >>> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> ___ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Thru Hull leaking from handle / cylinder
That looks pretty much like mine. The bad ones I refaced (or defaced) with valve grinding compound and put a heavy coating of Lanocote on the whole thing before reassembling. They are a mite difficult to turn in winter but they don't leak. I would advise doing this out of the water. In the meantime, you could unscrew the square nuts on the side of the unit, screw in a zerc fitting, and pump some heavy grease into it while in the water. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On Mon, 6 May 2019 at 10:19, John Christopher via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I don’t think you can see the full seacock but this was the leak. > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/T5NHhWbUy1ynxMEq7 > > > /John > > On May 5, 2019, at 9:19 PM, sender wrote: > > can you post a link to a picture? My 1981 gas an obsolete style Groco > cylinrical looking seacock. The rubber compound in them is NOT compatible > with conventional greases. > Eric > > On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 4:19 PM G Collins via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Hi John >> >> You could try tightening it, you will need two wrenches, one of them thin >> enough to get to the thinner nut. I bought a cheap wrench and attacked it >> with an angle grinder. >> >> Alternatively, if the seacock cone isn't loose, best option while in the >> water is to put grease nipples on the sides if they aren't there already >> (you mention they are?), get a grease gun at Harbor Freight / Princess Auto >> (depending on USA / Canada location), and crank some grease into it. Make >> sure the handle is in the "open" position. >> >> Good reference at >> https://marinehowto.com/servicing-tapered-cone-seacocks/ >> >> First season I had SP in the water her seacocks leaked, I greased them >> and was fine for the season. I pulled a couple of them next time she was >> on the hard and used lapping compound to get a good seal on them. >> >> Graham Collins >> Secret Plans >> C&C 35-III #11 >> >> On 2019-05-05 12:08 p.m., John Christopher via CnC-List wrote: >> >> Sorry all, referring to seacock is dripping around the handle. >> >> >> >> /John >> >> On May 5, 2019, at 10:28 AM, John Christopher wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Just launched my C&C 1983 Landfall 38. >> >> Noticed one thru hull fitting from the cylinder where the handle >> attaches. I see what looks like has 2 grease nipples. It is not leaking >> from the base (I.e not the thru hull itself). >> >> Thoughts on fixing? Does it need to come out of the water? >> >> >> /John >> >> >> ___ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and >> every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use >> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> ___ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Thru Hull leaking from handle / cylinder
I don’t think you can see the full seacock but this was the leak. https://photos.app.goo.gl/T5NHhWbUy1ynxMEq7 /John > On May 5, 2019, at 9:19 PM, sender wrote: > > can you post a link to a picture? My 1981 gas an obsolete style Groco > cylinrical looking seacock. The rubber compound in them is NOT compatible > with conventional greases. > Eric > >> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 4:19 PM G Collins via CnC-List >> wrote: >> Hi John >> >> You could try tightening it, you will need two wrenches, one of them thin >> enough to get to the thinner nut. I bought a cheap wrench and attacked it >> with an angle grinder. >> >> Alternatively, if the seacock cone isn't loose, best option while in the >> water is to put grease nipples on the sides if they aren't there already >> (you mention they are?), get a grease gun at Harbor Freight / Princess Auto >> (depending on USA / Canada location), and crank some grease into it. Make >> sure the handle is in the "open" position. >> >> Good reference at https://marinehowto.com/servicing-tapered-cone-seacocks/ >> >> First season I had SP in the water her seacocks leaked, I greased them and >> was fine for the season. I pulled a couple of them next time she was on the >> hard and used lapping compound to get a good seal on them. >> >> Graham Collins >> Secret Plans >> C&C 35-III #11 >>> On 2019-05-05 12:08 p.m., John Christopher via CnC-List wrote: >>> Sorry all, referring to seacock is dripping around the handle. >>> >>> >>> >>> /John >>> >>> On May 5, 2019, at 10:28 AM, John Christopher wrote: >>> Hi, Just launched my C&C 1983 Landfall 38. Noticed one thru hull fitting from the cylinder where the handle attaches. I see what looks like has 2 grease nipples. It is not leaking from the base (I.e not the thru hull itself). Thoughts on fixing? Does it need to come out of the water? /John >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and >>> every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use >>> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >> ___ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and >> every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use >> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Thru Hull leaking from handle / cylinder
can you post a link to a picture? My 1981 gas an obsolete style Groco cylinrical looking seacock. The rubber compound in them is NOT compatible with conventional greases. Eric On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 4:19 PM G Collins via CnC-List wrote: > Hi John > > You could try tightening it, you will need two wrenches, one of them thin > enough to get to the thinner nut. I bought a cheap wrench and attacked it > with an angle grinder. > > Alternatively, if the seacock cone isn't loose, best option while in the > water is to put grease nipples on the sides if they aren't there already > (you mention they are?), get a grease gun at Harbor Freight / Princess Auto > (depending on USA / Canada location), and crank some grease into it. Make > sure the handle is in the "open" position. > > Good reference at https://marinehowto.com/servicing-tapered-cone-seacocks/ > > First season I had SP in the water her seacocks leaked, I greased them and > was fine for the season. I pulled a couple of them next time she was on > the hard and used lapping compound to get a good seal on them. > > Graham Collins > Secret Plans > C&C 35-III #11 > > On 2019-05-05 12:08 p.m., John Christopher via CnC-List wrote: > > Sorry all, referring to seacock is dripping around the handle. > > > > /John > > On May 5, 2019, at 10:28 AM, John Christopher wrote: > > Hi, > > Just launched my C&C 1983 Landfall 38. > > Noticed one thru hull fitting from the cylinder where the handle attaches. > I see what looks like has 2 grease nipples. It is not leaking from the base > (I.e not the thru hull itself). > > Thoughts on fixing? Does it need to come out of the water? > > > /John > > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Thru Hull leaking from handle / cylinder
Hi John You could try tightening it, you will need two wrenches, one of them thin enough to get to the thinner nut. I bought a cheap wrench and attacked it with an angle grinder. Alternatively, if the seacock cone isn't loose, best option while in the water is to put grease nipples on the sides if they aren't there already (you mention they are?), get a grease gun at Harbor Freight / Princess Auto (depending on USA / Canada location), and crank some grease into it. Make sure the handle is in the "open" position. Good reference at https://marinehowto.com/servicing-tapered-cone-seacocks/ First season I had SP in the water her seacocks leaked, I greased them and was fine for the season. I pulled a couple of them next time she was on the hard and used lapping compound to get a good seal on them. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2019-05-05 12:08 p.m., John Christopher via CnC-List wrote: Sorry all, referring to seacock is dripping around the handle. /John On May 5, 2019, at 10:28 AM, John Christopher mailto:phygi...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi, Just launched my C&C 1983 Landfall 38. Noticed one thru hull fitting from the cylinder where the handle attaches. I see what looks like has 2 grease nipples. It is not leaking from the base (I.e not the thru hull itself). Thoughts on fixing? Does it need to come out of the water? /John ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Thru Hull leaking from handle / cylinder
Sorry meant seacock leaking around handle. /John > On May 5, 2019, at 10:28 AM, John Christopher wrote: > > Hi, > > Just launched my C&C 1983 Landfall 38. > > Noticed one thru hull fitting from the cylinder where the handle attaches. I > see what looks like has 2 grease nipples. It is not leaking from the base > (I.e not the thru hull itself). > > Thoughts on fixing? Does it need to come out of the water? > > > /John ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Thru Hull leaking from handle / cylinder
Sorry all, referring to seacock is dripping around the handle. /John > On May 5, 2019, at 10:28 AM, John Christopher wrote: > > Hi, > > Just launched my C&C 1983 Landfall 38. > > Noticed one thru hull fitting from the cylinder where the handle attaches. I > see what looks like has 2 grease nipples. It is not leaking from the base > (I.e not the thru hull itself). > > Thoughts on fixing? Does it need to come out of the water? > > > /John ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List Thru Hull leaking from handle / cylinder
Hi, Just launched my C&C 1983 Landfall 38. Noticed one thru hull fitting from the cylinder where the handle attaches. I see what looks like has 2 grease nipples. It is not leaking from the base (I.e not the thru hull itself). Thoughts on fixing? Does it need to come out of the water? /John___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
