Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long)
Long years of boating experience and careful observation have taught me one of life's truisms: NEVER approach a dock faster than you intend ti hit it! Rick Brass Sent from my iPad On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:37, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: As a kid I was on a charter boat coming into the main pier in Gallilee RI on a holiday weekend. The skipper shifted into reverse and when nothing happened yelled LOOKOUT. Tore off the bow rail. If it were low tide the cabin or flybridge would have stopped us! Joel ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long)
Dennis, She sounds like a keeper! Gary '75 CC 35 Mk II East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: OK, if you've followed this thread about Chris' engine controls, hopefully you'll enjoy this story. The Admiral and I were returning to Lake Pontchartrain from a week of cruising in Pensacola. I'd planned to repower Touche' from the Atomic 4 to a Universal 25XPB prior to the trip but just couldn't get everything in line. I had ordered and/or received most of the parts for the repower. (Important to remember) As we left Pensacola, The Admiral suggested we check our fuel level. Oops, the fuel gauge had *died*. I said No problem, I've ordered a new fuel gauge and tank. It's waiting in Mandeville. I'll replace it when we get back. (Remember this) We were in the Pas au Herons Channel north of Dauphin Island, Alabama bucking high teens on the nose and 2-3 foot seas. The AT4 was giving it it's all but we were making 2-3 knots over ground. I had the main up and sheeted board tight to help the AT4 best we could. The Admiral and I started smelling exhaust fumes. I lifted the cockpit locker lid to find soot. Further investigation suggested a crack in the exhaust piping. OK, the exhaust system *died*, not really fatal, just smelly. I told the Admiral No problem, I've ordered a new exhaust system. It's waiting in Mandeville. I'll replace it when we get back. (Remember this) When overnighted in Gulfport, MS. The next morning we departed and sailed up the Marianne Channel towards Lake Pontchartrain. At the first bridge coming into the Rigolets (the outlet for Lake Pontchartrain), I cranked the engine and tried to put it in gear. The entire shifter/throttle assembly failed. The bolts holding the assembly to the bulkhead had sheared. The assembly moved rather than shifting or adjusting the RPMs. OK, now the engine controls had *died*. I told the Admiral No problem, I've ordered engine controls. They're waiting in Mandeville. I'll replace it when we get back. (Remember this) At this time, the Admiral slowly turned to me and said You didn't order a new girl friend, did you? We cracked up. (Hope you followed the logic.) Two weeks later, Touche' had a new drive train. I still have the same Admiral. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA -- *From: *Chris Price via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To: *Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca, cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent: *Monday, September 1, 2014 10:20:30 PM *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control Had an interesting experience today after sailing back from the Wye River. Came into the dock and had to parallel park as usual using the prop walk to kick the stern in and stop the boat when the casting that holds the handle split in half as I was putting the engine in reverse. Fortunately, I don't approach the dock too fast and was able to bail out without hitting anything, but could not engage the transmission. The kids on the dock that were prepared to hand off the mooring lines learned a few new words. I think that the controls are the original Marmac Products controls, and thanks to Richard Kinder, the previous owner, I have the original parts list but I suspect Marmac is out of business.. I'll try to have the housing welded, but it is cheap pot metal. Any thoughts on finding a replacement? May have to give Bacons a shot. Chris Price Pradel 35 Mk I -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long)
I totally agree.the CC 35 MKI is a wonderful sail boat and well worth a diesel repower Dwight Veinot CC 35MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Russell via CnC-List Sent: September 3, 2014 7:34 AM To: Dennis C.; CC List Subject: Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long) Dennis, She sounds like a keeper! Gary '75 CC 35 Mk II East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: OK, if you've followed this thread about Chris' engine controls, hopefully you'll enjoy this story. The Admiral and I were returning to Lake Pontchartrain from a week of cruising in Pensacola. I'd planned to repower Touche' from the Atomic 4 to a Universal 25XPB prior to the trip but just couldn't get everything in line. I had ordered and/or received most of the parts for the repower. (Important to remember) As we left Pensacola, The Admiral suggested we check our fuel level. Oops, the fuel gauge had died. I said No problem, I've ordered a new fuel gauge and tank. It's waiting in Mandeville. I'll replace it when we get back. (Remember this) We were in the Pas au Herons Channel north of Dauphin Island, Alabama bucking high teens on the nose and 2-3 foot seas. The AT4 was giving it it's all but we were making 2-3 knots over ground. I had the main up and sheeted board tight to help the AT4 best we could. The Admiral and I started smelling exhaust fumes. I lifted the cockpit locker lid to find soot. Further investigation suggested a crack in the exhaust piping. OK, the exhaust system died, not really fatal, just smelly. I told the Admiral No problem, I've ordered a new exhaust system. It's waiting in Mandeville. I'll replace it when we get back. (Remember this) When overnighted in Gulfport, MS. The next morning we departed and sailed up the Marianne Channel towards Lake Pontchartrain. At the first bridge coming into the Rigolets (the outlet for Lake Pontchartrain), I cranked the engine and tried to put it in gear. The entire shifter/throttle assembly failed. The bolts holding the assembly to the bulkhead had sheared. The assembly moved rather than shifting or adjusting the RPMs. OK, now the engine controls had died. I told the Admiral No problem, I've ordered engine controls. They're waiting in Mandeville. I'll replace it when we get back. (Remember this) At this time, the Admiral slowly turned to me and said You didn't order a new girl friend, did you? We cracked up. (Hope you followed the logic.) Two weeks later, Touche' had a new drive train. I still have the same Admiral. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA _ From: Chris Price via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 10:20:30 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control Had an interesting experience today after sailing back from the Wye River. Came into the dock and had to parallel park as usual using the prop walk to kick the stern in and stop the boat when the casting that holds the handle split in half as I was putting the engine in reverse. Fortunately, I don't approach the dock too fast and was able to bail out without hitting anything, but could not engage the transmission. The kids on the dock that were prepared to hand off the mooring lines learned a few new words. I think that the controls are the original Marmac Products controls, and thanks to Richard Kinder, the previous owner, I have the original parts list but I suspect Marmac is out of business.. I'll try to have the housing welded, but it is cheap pot metal. Any thoughts on finding a replacement? May have to give Bacons a shot. Chris Price Pradel 35 Mk I _ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4745 / Virus Database: 4015/8124 - Release Date: 08/29/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long)
Coming into Fog Cove, which is a very confined area full of anchored boats, I went to shift into reverse and the shifter was just loose - no connection to the engine anymore. I aimed the boat towards the most open space I could find, gave my wife the helm, and dove into the cockpit locker. I was trying to get the clevis pin back in its place when my foot hit the accumulator tank and knocked the hose off it. The hose whipped around and was shooting water straight up my back while I was doing this. I think I used up my entire store of creative cursing in 30 seconds! Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long)
As a kid I was on a charter boat coming into the main pier in Gallilee RI on a holiday weekend. The skipper shifted into reverse and when nothing happened yelled LOOKOUT. Tore off the bow rail. If it were low tide the cabin or flybridge would have stopped us! Joel On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Coming into Fog Cove, which is a very confined area full of anchored boats, I went to shift into reverse and the shifter was just loose – no connection to the engine anymore. I aimed the boat towards the most open space I could find, gave my wife the helm, and dove into the cockpit locker. I was trying to get the clevis pin back in its place when my foot hit the accumulator tank and knocked the hose off it. The hose whipped around and was shooting water straight up my back while I was doing this. I think I used up my entire store of creative cursing in 30 seconds! *Joe Della Barba* *Coquina* *CC 35 MK I* ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long)
You all make me feel good about having just replaced my transmission cable - while safely doing other things in the marina. Now I'm starting to think about the probably 34 year old throttle cableI can imagine the funny story possibilities. Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: As a kid I was on a charter boat coming into the main pier in Gallilee RI on a holiday weekend. The skipper shifted into reverse and when nothing happened yelled LOOKOUT. Tore off the bow rail. If it were low tide the cabin or flybridge would have stopped us! Joel On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Coming into Fog Cove, which is a very confined area full of anchored boats, I went to shift into reverse and the shifter was just loose – no connection to the engine anymore. I aimed the boat towards the most open space I could find, gave my wife the helm, and dove into the cockpit locker. I was trying to get the clevis pin back in its place when my foot hit the accumulator tank and knocked the hose off it. The hose whipped around and was shooting water straight up my back while I was doing this. I think I used up my entire store of creative cursing in 30 seconds! *Joe Della Barba* *Coquina* *CC 35 MK I* ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long)
When I first bought my boat and pulled into the dock boat crashed into bulkhead. Turned out the thread on the transmission cable unthreaded from the connecter at the transmission. No matter how much I tightened the lock nut is worked its way out. Finally I put lock tight on the thread and it has held though replacement of the cable and threaded arm would be a more permanent solution. Jerry. C C. 27V J J. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: You all make me feel good about having just replaced my transmission cable - while safely doing other things in the marina. Now I'm starting to think about the probably 34 year old throttle cableI can imagine the funny story possibilities. Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: As a kid I was on a charter boat coming into the main pier in Gallilee RI on a holiday weekend. The skipper shifted into reverse and when nothing happened yelled LOOKOUT. Tore off the bow rail. If it were low tide the cabin or flybridge would have stopped us! Joel On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Coming into Fog Cove, which is a very confined area full of anchored boats, I went to shift into reverse and the shifter was just loose – no connection to the engine anymore. I aimed the boat towards the most open space I could find, gave my wife the helm, and dove into the cockpit locker. I was trying to get the clevis pin back in its place when my foot hit the accumulator tank and knocked the hose off it. The hose whipped around and was shooting water straight up my back while I was doing this. I think I used up my entire store of creative cursing in 30 seconds! Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long)
over. The effect was absolute zero, except for a rushing sound of turbulent water from aft as the rudder stalled. Realizing his predicament, but having no idea what to do about it, he shoved the wheel hard against the stops. As his knuckles went white, the boat heeled deeply in a dead sort of way, just like my old dinghy used to, but instead of capsizing she kept going straight ahead, crabbing towards a dismal and expensive outcome. Blessing the youthful truancy that had given me confidence, I was waiting until the last minute to act, when an enlightened crew member took the initiative and released the mainsheet for us. The yacht reacted instantly and we surged safely past the insurance claim and away into open water. You might think that expecting sailing skills of this caliber in the context of reliable auxiliary power is out of touch with the realities of modern yachting. In fact, it reflects the rationale of commercial sail training. The incident suggested that in any stressful situation, perhaps with a casualty in the water and a rope round the propeller, our skipper could not have relied on himself to extract the best the boat had to give. His skills were adequate when things were going well. It was only when affairs took a sudden nasty turn that he realized he hadn’t spent enough time honing those basic instincts. Sadly, after all has been said and done, there will always be odd occasions when no amount of training can outwit the final arbiter. The sea remains the most effective leveler on the planet, with a trick or two up her sleeve to be sure you’re on your toes, no matter how good you are — and it isn’t only small yachts that suffer. What the connoisseur of foul-ups looks for when disaster pays a visit, however, is the sort of seamanlike cool I was privileged to witness one summer’s day a few years back. Eating lunch in a waterfront restaurant, I watched a hundred-foot gaff schooner appear around the warehouses and shape up for the dockside under sail. The vessel was well-known locally to have no engine. Her skipper had allowed what seemed more than enough space for contingencies, yet as the schooner luffed off the last of her way, a wicked gust veered the wind through an impossible 90 degrees and filled her mainsail. Nobody deserved a deal like that. Without waiting for an order, the crew began surging away the mainsheet as though their pensions depended on it, but that giant sail kept right on drawing. The schooner was left with no way of stopping. She only brought up as her bowsprit added value to my meal by joining our table through the huge open window. The mate had run up to the end of the spar and, with his passage well and truly over, found himself standing eye-to-eye with an outraged head waiter. For a few seconds he seemed to be counting under his breath, then he placed his order. ‘I’ll take a Coors Lite for myself, six Tequila slammers for the boys and a quart of Wild Turkey for the Old Man.’ In the stunned silence, this young folk hero ignored the sickening twang as a tortured outer forestay carried away the upper rigging, nor did he turn a hair as his tumbling fore topmast demolished a passing harbormaster’s launch, thankfully without injury to life or limb. Later that day, I was drinking coffee with the schooner captain as his crew worked on rigging replacements. ‘You soon learn in this game never to shove a sailing boat into a tight corner without an escape route in case things go wrong,’ the skipper said. I was in unqualified awe of this man, but under the circumstances I had to ask, ‘So what went wrong today?’ ‘At least I steered her in through the window,’ he shrugged. ‘Topmasts are easy to replace. A rookie would have splintered his headgear all over the wall.’ ‘And what about the harbor launch?’ ‘The guy was under power,’ he replied with a straight face. ‘No sense of anticipation. What else can you expect?’ Bill From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 10:37 AM To: Della Barba, Joe; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long) As a kid I was on a charter boat coming into the main pier in Gallilee RI on a holiday weekend. The skipper shifted into reverse and when nothing happened yelled LOOKOUT. Tore off the bow rail. If it were low tide the cabin or flybridge would have stopped us! Joel On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Coming into Fog Cove, which is a very confined area full of anchored boats, I went to shift into reverse and the shifter was just loose – no connection to the engine anymore. I aimed the boat towards the most open space I could find, gave my wife the helm, and dove into the cockpit locker. I was trying to get the clevis pin back in its place when my foot hit
Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long)
Good one Dwight. I bet many missed this, but my guess is that Dennis did not. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35-1 At 05:31 AM 03/09/2014, you wrote: I totally agree the CC 35 MKI is a wonderful sail boat and well worth a diesel repower Dwight Veinot CC 35MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS -- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Russell via CnC-List Sent: September 3, 2014 7:34 AM To: Dennis C.; CC List Subject: Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long) Dennis, She sounds like a keeper! Gary '75 CC 35 Mk II East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ Oh. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long)
OK, if you've followed this thread about Chris' engine controls, hopefully you'll enjoy this story. The Admiral and I were returning to Lake Pontchartrain from a week of cruising in Pensacola. I'd planned to repower Touche' from the Atomic 4 to a Universal 25XPB prior to the trip but just couldn't get everything in line. I had ordered and/or received most of the parts for the repower. (Important to remember) As we left Pensacola, The Admiral suggested we check our fuel level. Oops, the fuel gauge had *died*. I said No problem, I've ordered a new fuel gauge and tank. It's waiting in Mandeville. I'll replace it when we get back. (Remember this) We were in the Pas au Herons Channel north of Dauphin Island, Alabama bucking high teens on the nose and 2-3 foot seas. The AT4 was giving it it's all but we were making 2-3 knots over ground. I had the main up and sheeted board tight to help the AT4 best we could. The Admiral and I started smelling exhaust fumes. I lifted the cockpit locker lid to find soot. Further investigation suggested a crack in the exhaust piping. OK, the exhaust system *died*, not really fatal, just smelly. I told the Admiral No problem, I've ordered a new exhaust system. It's waiting in Mandeville. I'll replace it when we get back. (Remember this) When overnighted in Gulfport, MS. The next morning we departed and sailed up the Marianne Channel towards Lake Pontchartrain. At the first bridge coming into the Rigolets (the outlet for Lake Pontchartrain), I cranked the engine and tried to put it in gear. The entire shifter/throttle assembly failed. The bolts holding the assembly to the bulkhead had sheared. The assembly moved rather than shifting or adjusting the RPMs. OK, now the engine controls had *died*. I told the Admiral No problem, I've ordered engine controls. They're waiting in Mandeville. I'll replace it when we get back. (Remember this) At this time, the Admiral slowly turned to me and said You didn't order a new girl friend, did you? We cracked up. (Hope you followed the logic.) Two weeks later, Touche' had a new drive train. I still have the same Admiral. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA -- *From: *Chris Price via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To: *Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca, cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent: *Monday, September 1, 2014 10:20:30 PM *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control Had an interesting experience today after sailing back from the Wye River. Came into the dock and had to parallel park as usual using the prop walk to kick the stern in and stop the boat when the casting that holds the handle split in half as I was putting the engine in reverse. Fortunately, I don't approach the dock too fast and was able to bail out without hitting anything, but could not engage the transmission. The kids on the dock that were prepared to hand off the mooring lines learned a few new words. I think that the controls are the original Marmac Products controls, and thanks to Richard Kinder, the previous owner, I have the original parts list but I suspect Marmac is out of business.. I'll try to have the housing welded, but it is cheap pot metal. Any thoughts on finding a replacement? May have to give Bacons a shot. Chris Price Pradel 35 Mk I -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
