Re: Stus-List Transmission ratio for LF38

2017-09-22 Thread Anthony Mitchell via CnC-List
Thanks for the replies and info.

Sorry, don't get on email much at the moment. Finally determined that the
existing 2.13:1 forward ratio appears to be correct. I found an old post
from Wal that had a prop calculator attached. Ran the specs, and the
gearbox ratio seems to check out for our 2 blade prop pitch and diameter. I
always thought the prop looked a bit small, and the owners manual shows and
18" prop with the 2.8:1 ratio - I guess at one stage they were spinning the
bigger prop a bit slower. We'll stick with the current setup - one step at
a time.

I managed to find a new gearbox in stock at Foley Engines (Dr Diesel) and
it's currently in transit to Fiji. There were also 3 available on eBay at
fredwarner1.net but he wasn't able to ship to Fiji. Quite a relief to get
one because the lead time from Australia was 17 weeks!

We are still in Fiji awaiting the gearbox before heading back to Australia
at the beginning of November. We have been in here for 3 years now with
summer storage in a cyclone pit at Vuda Marina. We got through Cyclone
Winston unscathed although very stressful at the time because we couldn't
get back here to baby sit.  My heart goes out to all those people who
weren't so lucky and are suffering in the Caribbean. It must seem
never-ending in that part of the world!

It will be good to get out there again after a long stint of work.

Tony Mitchell
SV Irish Melody,
1983 LF38 #150
Vuda, Fiji
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Re: Stus-List Transmission ratio for LF38

2017-09-04 Thread Frank via CnC-List
Tony,

>From my Yanmar Service Manual, Marine Diesel Engine, Model 3QM30(H), Chapter 1 
>General, 2. Specifications:

Reduction gear system
Reduction ratio:
Model:   3QM303QM30H3QM30Y3QM30F
ModelYP-10MKH-18YP-10MKH-18
Reduction Ratio:
Ahead2.20/3.212.31/3.002.20/3.212.31/3.00
Astern2.30/3.461.96/3.062.30/3.461.96/3.06

The YP-10M Reduction gear system is a Constant-mesh spur gear, with a 
Mechanical wet type single disk clutch and the KH-18 Reduction gear system  is 
a Constant-mesh helical gear, with a Mechanical wet type multi disk clutch.  

I have no idea what all of this means but I hope that this may help.

   

Frank Noragon
S/V: Cool Change
C&C 38LF, s/n: 001
Rose City Yacht Club
Portland, Oregon

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Re: Stus-List Transmission ratio for LF38

2017-09-04 Thread billbruce--- via CnC-List

 
  
   According to my records...my transmission is 1-1 and the vdrive is 2-1.
  
 


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Re: Stus-List Transmission ratio for LF38

2017-09-04 Thread Patrick Davin via CnC-List
I believe my transmission is 2.14:1.  Not 100% sure, but when I had it
rebuilt two years ago I had someone check it and that's what they said it
was. Also I had considered replacement and they had 2.7:1's in stock but no
2.14:1.

Just curious where are you getting your new transmission? I had the
impression they were hard to find. Are you still in Fiji? I found your blog
but no updates since 2014 - would love to read if you decide to take it
back up.

I have a 3 blade 18" Autoprop. It provides good power, but we do lose
significant speed motoring upwind in 15 kts or more. It sounds like you
might be underprop'd a bit with the 2-blade 16".

My mechanic when I had the transmission rebuilt called the Autoprop
transmission killers. He was more a fan of MaxProp's and said they're more
common. Not sure if the "transmission killer" bit is true or not, but we
found a prior owner had misinstalled the transmission with a mismatched
shaft coupler (different size inner ring), so hoping that was the cause.

-Patrick
1984 LF 38
Seattle, WA

On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 3:51 PM,  wrote:
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Anthony Mitchell 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 09:33:19 +1200
> Subject: Stus-List Transmission ratio for LF38
> Unfortunately our ZF 15 MIV transmission needs replacement. The current
> gearbox has a 2.13:1 gear ration and I believe the gearbox has been
> replaced in the past. The owners manual for the LF38 says the ration should
> be 2.83:1. Our prop is a two blade 16" x 13" x 1-1/8" RH which more closely
> matches the specs for the LF35.
>
> Can any LF owners confirm their transmission ratio. I'm not certain that
> our gearbox is correct, and if we're purchasing a new one, it will be good
> to get it back to standard.
> We get along OK with the current setup but the performance is not
> outstanding to windward.
>
> Tony Mitchell
> SV Irish Melody,
> 1983 LF38 #150
> Vuda, Fiji
>
>
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Stus-List Transmission ratio for LF38

2017-09-03 Thread Anthony Mitchell via CnC-List
Unfortunately our ZF 15 MIV transmission needs replacement. The current
gearbox has a 2.13:1 gear ration and I believe the gearbox has been
replaced in the past. The owners manual for the LF38 says the ration should
be 2.83:1. Our prop is a two blade 16" x 13" x 1-1/8" RH which more closely
matches the specs for the LF35.

Can any LF owners confirm their transmission ratio. I'm not certain that
our gearbox is correct, and if we're purchasing a new one, it will be good
to get it back to standard.
We get along OK with the current setup but the performance is not
outstanding to windward.

Tony Mitchell
SV Irish Melody,
1983 LF38 #150
Vuda, Fiji
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