Re: Stus-List Winter cover frame - Frame Maker Clamps
That conduit is pretty strong. I use it for my cover. I also use 1.5" black water pipe. The biggest issue is to make sure that the supports don't bend sideways (leaving much bigger gap between them). Marek Ottawa, ON (we do have a lot of snow, but of course, not as much as Earie, PA) Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: coltrek--- via CnC-List Date: 2018-10-04 14:49 (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: colt...@verizon.net Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter cover frame - Frame Maker Clamps I tried a different idea last year. I made 20 some brackets that just clipped onto the toe rail and each slot. A piece of tubing was welded straight up at that point. Then I bought several lengths of three quarter inch plastic conduit, put them over the upright tubing, straightforward up and then arched over the boat. In my case over the laid down mast. Worked pretty good. I would have to do a little more support for the snow that we had last December. Fortunately, I put it on just after that, so it didn't crush the plastic tubing. Bill Coleman C 39 Erie On Thursday, October 4, 2018 Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List wrote: Have been surfing for an affordable way to build a better winter frame, came across framemakerclamps.com. Anyone have any experience with these clamps? Frame is built with 3/4 inch EMT, adjustable angle cross and tee clamps, looks pretty good in the pictures. Thoughts appreciated. Brad "Pulse" 1985 C 33/2 Lake Huron Anything worth doing requires sails!~~~_/)~~~ ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray=02%7C01%7C%7Caf65a35db4924e11f5f508d62a2a1b5c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636742757660939919=muTLD7ndMBpRv0A0wWorZHuvMawkgGWBm8%2FBgSLrSxY%3D=0> ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Winter cover frame - Frame Maker Clamps
I’m in Erie, PA, by the way. From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2018 4:00 PM To: Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List Cc: Danny Haughey Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter cover frame - Frame Maker Clamps Matthew, what company is that? how far do they go? where is your boat located? What was your upfront cost? Danny On 10/4/2018 3:09 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List wrote: I made a frame from pvc pipe and covered it with properly sized truck tarps. Definitely less expensive, and not too bad to assemble and disassemble/store, but it was more trouble than it’s worth. I now use a service out of the Niagara Falls, NY area that built a metal frame and custom cover. It was pricey up front but fits like a glove. Now, for about $200 each fall, they show up, assemble the frame, and cover the boat. For about the same price each spring, they show up, disassemble the frame, remove the cover, and store the frame and cover for the summer. No more ladders, lugging heavy tarps around, repairing broken frame pieces, etc. Definitely worth it in my view. From: coltrek--- via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2018 2:48 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: colt...@verizon.net Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter cover frame - Frame Maker Clamps I tried a different idea last year. I made 20 some brackets that just clipped onto the toe rail and each slot. A piece of tubing was welded straight up at that point. Then I bought several lengths of three quarter inch plastic conduit, put them over the upright tubing, straightforward up and then arched over the boat. In my case over the laid down mast. Worked pretty good. I would have to do a little more support for the snow that we had last December. Fortunately, I put it on just after that, so it didn't crush the plastic tubing. Bill Coleman C 39 Erie ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Winter cover frame - Frame Maker Clamps
https://www.customcoversandcanvas.com/ I don’t know how far they travel, but they come to Erie from the Niagara Falls, NY area (near Buffalo), which is about two hours by car. As I recall, the upfront cost for my 42 was a little under $5K (installed). I was a bit surprised because two friends who convinced me that it’s the way to go (Sabre 42 and C 41) each paid about $1,000 less a couple years earlier. The annual payment also increased from one payment of about $350 to two payments of a little over $200 each (fall and spring). Nevertheless, I’m glad I made the up-front investment, and I’m really glad that my winter cover is now on autopilot. The cover is great, and I’m getting too old for this DIY frame stuff. From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2018 4:00 PM To: Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List Cc: Danny Haughey Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter cover frame - Frame Maker Clamps Matthew, what company is that? how far do they go? where is your boat located? What was your upfront cost? Danny On 10/4/2018 3:09 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List wrote: I made a frame from pvc pipe and covered it with properly sized truck tarps. Definitely less expensive, and not too bad to assemble and disassemble/store, but it was more trouble than it’s worth. I now use a service out of the Niagara Falls, NY area that built a metal frame and custom cover. It was pricey up front but fits like a glove. Now, for about $200 each fall, they show up, assemble the frame, and cover the boat. For about the same price each spring, they show up, disassemble the frame, remove the cover, and store the frame and cover for the summer. No more ladders, lugging heavy tarps around, repairing broken frame pieces, etc. Definitely worth it in my view. From: coltrek--- via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2018 2:48 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: colt...@verizon.net Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter cover frame - Frame Maker Clamps I tried a different idea last year. I made 20 some brackets that just clipped onto the toe rail and each slot. A piece of tubing was welded straight up at that point. Then I bought several lengths of three quarter inch plastic conduit, put them over the upright tubing, straightforward up and then arched over the boat. In my case over the laid down mast. Worked pretty good. I would have to do a little more support for the snow that we had last December. Fortunately, I put it on just after that, so it didn't crush the plastic tubing. Bill Coleman C 39 Erie ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Winter cover frame - Frame Maker Clamps
Matthew, what company is that? how far do they go? where is your boat located? What was your upfront cost? Danny On 10/4/2018 3:09 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List wrote: I made a frame from pvc pipe and covered it with properly sized truck tarps. Definitely less expensive, and not too bad to assemble and disassemble/store, but it was more trouble than it’s worth. I now use a service out of the Niagara Falls, NY area that built a metal frame and custom cover. It was pricey up front but fits like a glove. Now, for about $200 each fall, they show up, assemble the frame, and cover the boat. For about the same price each spring, they show up, disassemble the frame, remove the cover, and store the frame and cover for the summer. No more ladders, lugging heavy tarps around, repairing broken frame pieces, etc. Definitely worth it in my view. *From:* coltrek--- via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> *Sent:* Thursday, October 04, 2018 2:48 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> *Cc:* colt...@verizon.net <mailto:colt...@verizon.net> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Winter cover frame - Frame Maker Clamps I tried a different idea last year. I made 20 some brackets that just clipped onto the toe rail and each slot. A piece of tubing was welded straight up at that point. Then I bought several lengths of three quarter inch plastic conduit, put them over the upright tubing, straightforward up and then arched over the boat. In my case over the laid down mast. Worked pretty good. I would have to do a little more support for the snow that we had last December. Fortunately, I put it on just after that, so it didn't crush the plastic tubing. Bill Coleman C 39 Erie ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Winter cover frame - Frame Maker Clamps
I made a frame from pvc pipe and covered it with properly sized truck tarps. Definitely less expensive, and not too bad to assemble and disassemble/store, but it was more trouble than it’s worth. I now use a service out of the Niagara Falls, NY area that built a metal frame and custom cover. It was pricey up front but fits like a glove. Now, for about $200 each fall, they show up, assemble the frame, and cover the boat. For about the same price each spring, they show up, disassemble the frame, remove the cover, and store the frame and cover for the summer. No more ladders, lugging heavy tarps around, repairing broken frame pieces, etc. Definitely worth it in my view. From: coltrek--- via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2018 2:48 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: colt...@verizon.net Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter cover frame - Frame Maker Clamps I tried a different idea last year. I made 20 some brackets that just clipped onto the toe rail and each slot. A piece of tubing was welded straight up at that point. Then I bought several lengths of three quarter inch plastic conduit, put them over the upright tubing, straightforward up and then arched over the boat. In my case over the laid down mast. Worked pretty good. I would have to do a little more support for the snow that we had last December. Fortunately, I put it on just after that, so it didn't crush the plastic tubing. Bill Coleman C 39 Erie ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Winter cover frame - Frame Maker Clamps
I tried a different idea last year. I made 20 some brackets that just clipped onto the toe rail and each slot. A piece of tubing was welded straight up at that point. Then I bought several lengths of three quarter inch plastic conduit, put them over the upright tubing, straightforward up and then arched over the boat. In my case over the laid down mast. Worked pretty good. I would have to do a little more support for the snow that we had last December. Fortunately, I put it on just after that, so it didn't crush the plastic tubing. Bill Coleman C 39 Erie On Thursday, October 4, 2018 Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List wrote: Have been surfing for an affordable way to build a better winter frame, came across framemakerclamps.com. Anyone have any experience with these clamps? Frame is built with 3/4 inch EMT, adjustable angle cross and tee clamps, looks pretty good in the pictures. Thoughts appreciated. Brad "Pulse" 1985 C 33/2 Lake Huron Anything worth doing requires sails!~~~_/)~~~ ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Winter cover frame - Frame Maker Clamps
I used the Framemaker system to make a frame for my C 34 and the frame worked great. The problem I had was getting tarps in the right size and in place and tied down to cover the boat adequately and not abuse the paint with rope burns. As a result of that problem, I had a custom cover made (The Canvas Store) for my current boat that fits over the rig and ties to the toe rail with the mast up and have been been even happier with that setup. I have used the new cover for 5 winters and it is still going strong. Dave > On Oct 4, 2018, at 1:08 PM, Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List > wrote: > > Have been surfing for an affordable way to build a better winter frame, came > across framemakerclamps.com. Anyone have any experience with these clamps? > Frame is built with 3/4 inch EMT, adjustable angle cross and tee clamps, > looks pretty good in the pictures. > Thoughts appreciated. > Brad > "Pulse" 1985 C 33/2 > Lake Huron > > > Anything worth doing requires sails!~~~_/)~~~ > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > S/V Aries 1990 C 34+ New London, CT ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List Winter cover frame - Frame Maker Clamps
Have been surfing for an affordable way to build a better winter frame, came across framemakerclamps.com. Anyone have any experience with these clamps? Frame is built with 3/4 inch EMT, adjustable angle cross and tee clamps, looks pretty good in the pictures. Thoughts appreciated. Brad "Pulse" 1985 C 33/2 Lake Huron Anything worth doing requires sails!~~~_/)~~~ ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
