Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-10 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
Josh I took a picture of the carb.   Thats my cell below.  I can send it to you 
to discuss however, I think I know where it is.   FYI. Carb cleaned, fuel lines 
tank pickup all replaced.

Thanks in advance.

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

Year and serial number would probably help.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 11:45 David Risch via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Thanks Josh

Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle.   I can get serial number if you need more info…

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

David,

There has to be an orifice (jet) or screw.  Are you sure a screw isn't hidden 
under a plastic cowl?

Get me an exact make and model so I can do some research.

Josh



On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 08:08 David Risch via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Josh and Chuck,

Mixture is new with AV gas so no issues there.   Only one adjustment screw on 
carb.  Seems to only affect low throttle.  As said all good in neutral and good 
up until ¾ throttle in gear.  Chuck mentioned if spark plug grey and chalky, 
which it is, it is running lean at top end.   How does one adjust top end 
without adjustment screw.

Thanks in advance.

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

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Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List
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Cc: Josh Muckley mailto:muckl...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

Follow my carb tuning video.  Post back with questions.

https://youtu.be/caIdvC8WGDg

Sounds like the idle/throttle screw (T) is keeping the butterfly open too far 
with no throttle applied.  It just so happens that in gear there is enough load 
to slow 'er down.  At full throttle is sounds like probably too much fuel (H).  
I think that if it was too little it would die.  Since both of these "symptoms 
could be a result of too much low throttle fuel (L) you should probably start 
by dialing it back a bit and see how thing go.  By doing this you will lower 
the fuel at idle AND lower the fuel a full throttle.  If you're lucky and my 
diagnosis is correct then you'll kill too birds with one stone.

My advice is based on having 3 adjustment screws H (high throttle), L (low 
throttle), T (min throttle).  If you're missing any one of these then it has a 
jet which serves in its place.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 09:29 David Risch via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
So instead of giving it away I rebuilt the carb and half dozen other fixes this 
winter.
Runs and idles great, but at full throttle she bogs down continues to run, but 
sounds rougher.When out gear it goes right to full throttle.
Perhaps overpropped?
Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.

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Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-10 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
A partially blocked main jet could cause carb to run lean on the top end.   
Mixture and idle screws don’t adjust anything above the midrange of the power 
band.  A fine wire can be used to clear any debris that could block fuel flow 
through the jet.  Also check the float level.  If the float is set too low it 
could be starving for fuel at higher rpms with full throttle.  
Chuck



> On Jun 10, 2020, at 11:45 AM, David Risch via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Josh
>  
> Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle.   I can get serial number if you need more info…
>  
> David F. Risch
> (401) 419-4650
>  
> From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via 
> CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 10:36 AM
> To: C List 
> Cc: Josh Muckley 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle
>  
> David,
>  
> There has to be an orifice (jet) or screw.  Are you sure a screw isn't hidden 
> under a plastic cowl?
>  
> Get me an exact make and model so I can do some research.
>  
> Josh 
>  
>  
>  
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 08:08 David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> Josh and Chuck,
>  
> Mixture is new with AV gas so no issues there.   Only one adjustment screw on 
> carb.  Seems to only affect low throttle.  As said all good in neutral and 
> good up until ¾ throttle in gear.  Chuck mentioned if spark plug grey and 
> chalky, which it is, it is running lean at top end.   How does one adjust top 
> end without adjustment screw.
>  
> Thanks in advance.
>  
> David F. Risch
> (401) 419-4650
>  
> From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via 
> CnC-List
> Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 10:17 AM
> To: C List 
> Cc: Josh Muckley 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle
>  
> Follow my carb tuning video.  Post back with questions.
>  
> https://youtu.be/caIdvC8WGDg
>  
> Sounds like the idle/throttle screw (T) is keeping the butterfly open too far 
> with no throttle applied.  It just so happens that in gear there is enough 
> load to slow 'er down.  At full throttle is sounds like probably too much 
> fuel (H).  I think that if it was too little it would die.  Since both of 
> these "symptoms could be a result of too much low throttle fuel (L) you 
> should probably start by dialing it back a bit and see how thing go.  By 
> doing this you will lower the fuel at idle AND lower the fuel a full 
> throttle.  If you're lucky and my diagnosis is correct then you'll kill too 
> birds with one stone.
>  
> My advice is based on having 3 adjustment screws H (high throttle), L (low 
> throttle), T (min throttle).  If you're missing any one of these then it has 
> a jet which serves in its place.  
>  
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk 
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>  
> 
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 09:29 David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> So instead of giving it away I rebuilt the carb and half dozen other fixes 
> this winter.
> 
> Runs and idles great, but at full throttle she bogs down continues to run, 
> but sounds rougher.When out gear it goes right to full throttle. 
> 
> Perhaps overpropped?
> 
> Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.
>  
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Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-10 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I keep a jug of it for my lawnmower. It is amazing how trouble free it is 
without car gas in it. On the other side of the equation I know someone who 
decided to use car gas in a seaplane and sure enough it came home one day at 
the end of a towline. Ethanol defeats the water separators airplanes have – and 
boats too for that matter ☹


Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com



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Cc: David Risch 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

I use it for the no ethanol component.  Hate ethanol…

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

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Subject: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

Avgas is in 100 octane LL?
That will eventually lead foul the spark plug, so you’ll need to check it every 
so often. On the plus side it doesn’t have stink perfume added to it, so if you 
spill it on yourself you won’t stink all day.


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Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-10 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Year and serial number would probably help.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 11:45 David Risch via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Thanks Josh
>
>
>
> Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle.   I can get serial number if you need more info…
>
>
>
> *David F. Risch*
>
> *(401) 419-4650*
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Josh
> Muckley via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2020 10:36 AM
> *To:* C List 
> *Cc:* Josh Muckley 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle
>
>
>
> David,
>
>
>
> There has to be an orifice (jet) or screw.  Are you sure a screw isn't
> hidden under a plastic cowl?
>
>
>
> Get me an exact make and model so I can do some research.
>
>
>
> Josh
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 08:08 David Risch via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Josh and Chuck,
>
>
>
> Mixture is new with AV gas so no issues there.   Only one adjustment screw
> on carb.  Seems to only affect low throttle.  As said all good in neutral
> and good up until ¾ throttle in gear.  Chuck mentioned if spark plug grey
> and chalky, which it is, it is running lean at top end.   How does one
> adjust top end without adjustment screw.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> *David F. Risch*
>
> *(401) 419-4650*
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Josh
> Muckley via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 7, 2020 10:17 AM
> *To:* C List 
> *Cc:* Josh Muckley 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle
>
>
>
> Follow my carb tuning video.  Post back with questions.
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/caIdvC8WGDg
>
>
>
> Sounds like the idle/throttle screw (T) is keeping the butterfly open too
> far with no throttle applied.  It just so happens that in gear there is
> enough load to slow 'er down.  At full throttle is sounds like probably too
> much fuel (H).  I think that if it was too little it would die.  Since both
> of these "symptoms could be a result of too much low throttle fuel (L) you
> should probably start by dialing it back a bit and see how thing go.  By
> doing this you will lower the fuel at idle AND lower the fuel a full
> throttle.  If you're lucky and my diagnosis is correct then you'll kill too
> birds with one stone.
>
>
>
> My advice is based on having 3 adjustment screws H (high throttle), L (low
> throttle), T (min throttle).  If you're missing any one of these then it
> has a jet which serves in its place.
>
>
>
> Josh Muckley
>
> S/V Sea Hawk
>
> 1989 C 37+
>
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 09:29 David Risch via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> So instead of giving it away I rebuilt the carb and half dozen other fixes
> this winter.
>
> Runs and idles great, but at full throttle she bogs down continues to run,
> but sounds rougher.When out gear it goes right to full throttle.
>
> Perhaps overpropped?
>
> Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-10 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
Thanks Josh

Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle.   I can get serial number if you need more info…

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

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CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 10:36 AM
To: C List 
Cc: Josh Muckley 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

David,

There has to be an orifice (jet) or screw.  Are you sure a screw isn't hidden 
under a plastic cowl?

Get me an exact make and model so I can do some research.

Josh



On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 08:08 David Risch via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Josh and Chuck,

Mixture is new with AV gas so no issues there.   Only one adjustment screw on 
carb.  Seems to only affect low throttle.  As said all good in neutral and good 
up until ¾ throttle in gear.  Chuck mentioned if spark plug grey and chalky, 
which it is, it is running lean at top end.   How does one adjust top end 
without adjustment screw.

Thanks in advance.

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

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mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> On Behalf 
Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 10:17 AM
To: C List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Josh Muckley mailto:muckl...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

Follow my carb tuning video.  Post back with questions.

https://youtu.be/caIdvC8WGDg

Sounds like the idle/throttle screw (T) is keeping the butterfly open too far 
with no throttle applied.  It just so happens that in gear there is enough load 
to slow 'er down.  At full throttle is sounds like probably too much fuel (H).  
I think that if it was too little it would die.  Since both of these "symptoms 
could be a result of too much low throttle fuel (L) you should probably start 
by dialing it back a bit and see how thing go.  By doing this you will lower 
the fuel at idle AND lower the fuel a full throttle.  If you're lucky and my 
diagnosis is correct then you'll kill too birds with one stone.

My advice is based on having 3 adjustment screws H (high throttle), L (low 
throttle), T (min throttle).  If you're missing any one of these then it has a 
jet which serves in its place.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 09:29 David Risch via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
So instead of giving it away I rebuilt the carb and half dozen other fixes this 
winter.
Runs and idles great, but at full throttle she bogs down continues to run, but 
sounds rougher.When out gear it goes right to full throttle.
Perhaps overpropped?
Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.

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Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-10 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
I use it for the no ethanol component.  Hate ethanol…

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 10:38 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

Avgas is in 100 octane LL?
That will eventually lead foul the spark plug, so you’ll need to check it every 
so often. On the plus side it doesn’t have stink perfume added to it, so if you 
spill it on yourself you won’t stink all day.


Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com<http://www.dellabarba.com>



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To: David mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com>>
Cc: Francois Rivard 
mailto:jeanfrancoisriv...@gmail.com>>; cnc-list 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

Hi David,

It does sound like it's running lean on the high end.  The solution is likely 
to be related to a fuel flow problem like a clogged carburetor jet or 
obstruction / air leak  / weak point in the fuel delivery system such as a 
clogged filter / fuel pickup / regulator / missing gasket / dried-up diaphragm, 
etc.

A constructed flow problem won't manifest itself on the low end as the engine 
only needs a trickle of fuel to idle correctly, however when you open the 
throttle the trickle has to turn into a stream...

Filters and hoses are easy and cheap / carburetor rebuild kits with diaphragms 
and gaskets cost about 15-20 bucks and take about 30 minutes to install.

Good luck!

-Francois
1990 34+ "Take Five"





Josh and Chuck,

Mixture is new with AV gas so no issues there.   Only one adjustment screw on 
carb.  Seems to only affect low throttle.  As said all good in neutral and good 
up until ? throttle in gear.  Chuck mentioned if spark plug grey and chalky, 
which it is, it is running lean at top end.   How does one adjust top end 
without adjustment screw.

Thanks in advance.

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650
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Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-10 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Avgas is in 100 octane LL?
That will eventually lead foul the spark plug, so you’ll need to check it every 
so often. On the plus side it doesn’t have stink perfume added to it, so if you 
spill it on yourself you won’t stink all day.


Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com



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Rivard via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 10:20 AM
To: David 
Cc: Francois Rivard ; cnc-list 

Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

Hi David,

It does sound like it's running lean on the high end.  The solution is likely 
to be related to a fuel flow problem like a clogged carburetor jet or 
obstruction / air leak  / weak point in the fuel delivery system such as a 
clogged filter / fuel pickup / regulator / missing gasket / dried-up diaphragm, 
etc.

A constructed flow problem won't manifest itself on the low end as the engine 
only needs a trickle of fuel to idle correctly, however when you open the 
throttle the trickle has to turn into a stream...

Filters and hoses are easy and cheap / carburetor rebuild kits with diaphragms 
and gaskets cost about 15-20 bucks and take about 30 minutes to install.

Good luck!

-Francois
1990 34+ "Take Five"





Josh and Chuck,

Mixture is new with AV gas so no issues there.   Only one adjustment screw on 
carb.  Seems to only affect low throttle.  As said all good in neutral and good 
up until ? throttle in gear.  Chuck mentioned if spark plug grey and chalky, 
which it is, it is running lean at top end.   How does one adjust top end 
without adjustment screw.

Thanks in advance.

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650
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Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-10 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
David,

There has to be an orifice (jet) or screw.  Are you sure a screw isn't
hidden under a plastic cowl?

Get me an exact make and model so I can do some research.

Josh



On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 08:08 David Risch via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Josh and Chuck,
>
>
>
> Mixture is new with AV gas so no issues there.   Only one adjustment screw
> on carb.  Seems to only affect low throttle.  As said all good in neutral
> and good up until ¾ throttle in gear.  Chuck mentioned if spark plug grey
> and chalky, which it is, it is running lean at top end.   How does one
> adjust top end without adjustment screw.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> *David F. Risch*
>
> *(401) 419-4650*
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Josh
> Muckley via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 7, 2020 10:17 AM
> *To:* C List 
> *Cc:* Josh Muckley 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle
>
>
>
> Follow my carb tuning video.  Post back with questions.
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/caIdvC8WGDg
>
>
>
> Sounds like the idle/throttle screw (T) is keeping the butterfly open too
> far with no throttle applied.  It just so happens that in gear there is
> enough load to slow 'er down.  At full throttle is sounds like probably too
> much fuel (H).  I think that if it was too little it would die.  Since both
> of these "symptoms could be a result of too much low throttle fuel (L) you
> should probably start by dialing it back a bit and see how thing go.  By
> doing this you will lower the fuel at idle AND lower the fuel a full
> throttle.  If you're lucky and my diagnosis is correct then you'll kill too
> birds with one stone.
>
>
>
> My advice is based on having 3 adjustment screws H (high throttle), L (low
> throttle), T (min throttle).  If you're missing any one of these then it
> has a jet which serves in its place.
>
>
>
> Josh Muckley
>
> S/V Sea Hawk
>
> 1989 C 37+
>
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 09:29 David Risch via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> So instead of giving it away I rebuilt the carb and half dozen other fixes
> this winter.
>
> Runs and idles great, but at full throttle she bogs down continues to run,
> but sounds rougher.When out gear it goes right to full throttle.
>
> Perhaps overpropped?
>
> Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.
>
>
>
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>
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> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
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Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-10 Thread Francois Rivard via CnC-List
Hi David,

It does sound like it's running lean on the high end.  The solution is
likely to be related to a fuel flow problem like a clogged carburetor jet
or obstruction / air leak  / weak point in the fuel delivery system such as
a clogged filter / fuel pickup / regulator / missing gasket / dried-up
diaphragm, etc.

A constructed flow problem won't manifest itself on the low end as the
engine only needs a trickle of fuel to idle correctly, however when you
open the throttle the trickle has to turn into a stream...

Filters and hoses are easy and cheap / carburetor rebuild kits with
diaphragms and gaskets cost about 15-20 bucks and take about 30 minutes to
install.

Good luck!

-Francois
1990 34+ "Take Five"





Josh and Chuck,

Mixture is new with AV gas so no issues there.   Only one adjustment screw
on carb.  Seems to only affect low throttle.  As said all good in neutral
and good up until ? throttle in gear.  Chuck mentioned if spark plug grey
and chalky, which it is, it is running lean at top end.   How does one
adjust top end without adjustment screw.

Thanks in advance.

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650
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Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-10 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
Josh and Chuck,

Mixture is new with AV gas so no issues there.   Only one adjustment screw on 
carb.  Seems to only affect low throttle.  As said all good in neutral and good 
up until ¾ throttle in gear.  Chuck mentioned if spark plug grey and chalky, 
which it is, it is running lean at top end.   How does one adjust top end 
without adjustment screw.

Thanks in advance.

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

Follow my carb tuning video.  Post back with questions.

https://youtu.be/caIdvC8WGDg

Sounds like the idle/throttle screw (T) is keeping the butterfly open too far 
with no throttle applied.  It just so happens that in gear there is enough load 
to slow 'er down.  At full throttle is sounds like probably too much fuel (H).  
I think that if it was too little it would die.  Since both of these "symptoms 
could be a result of too much low throttle fuel (L) you should probably start 
by dialing it back a bit and see how thing go.  By doing this you will lower 
the fuel at idle AND lower the fuel a full throttle.  If you're lucky and my 
diagnosis is correct then you'll kill too birds with one stone.

My advice is based on having 3 adjustment screws H (high throttle), L (low 
throttle), T (min throttle).  If you're missing any one of these then it has a 
jet which serves in its place.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 09:29 David Risch via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
So instead of giving it away I rebuilt the carb and half dozen other fixes this 
winter.
Runs and idles great, but at full throttle she bogs down continues to run, but 
sounds rougher.When out gear it goes right to full throttle.
Perhaps overpropped?
Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.

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Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-07 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
If it seems to lose power on the top end, that a good indicator that the engine 
is running lean.  If your oil/ fuel mixture ratio is off with too much oil, 
your “fuel” may not have enough gas to mix with oxygen to provide enough power. 
 A good way to determine a lean burn is 1. Check the spark plug color.  If it 
looks gray or chalky, you might be too lean and 2.when you run the engine at 
full throttle and back off the throttle a touch and the engine speeds up, it is 
too lean on the top end.
Check for leaks around the carb and intake manifold.  Spray a little starter 
fluid Near the manifold and if the eNgine speeds up, you have an air leak.
Should you find the plug to be black and Sooty, you have the opposite problem, 
too rich.  Again , check mixture ratio.  Not enough oil in the premix can make 
a difference, causing incomplete combustion at full throttle.  Finally, modern 
gasoline doesn’t mix well with oil and alcohol tends to separate the oil from 
the gasoline.  That can mess with your fuel as well, making part of the fuel 
storage critical to a good running motor.
Aren’t engines fun?
Chuck Gilchrest 
Half Magic
Padanaram MA
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> On Jun 7, 2020, at 9:29 AM, David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> So instead of giving it away I rebuilt the carb and half dozen other fixes 
> this winter. 
> 
> Runs and idles great, but at full throttle she bogs down continues to run, 
> but sounds rougher.When out gear it goes right to full throttle.  
> 
> Perhaps overpropped?
> 
> Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.
> 
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Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-07 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Follow my carb tuning video.  Post back with questions.

https://youtu.be/caIdvC8WGDg

Sounds like the idle/throttle screw (T) is keeping the butterfly open too
far with no throttle applied.  It just so happens that in gear there is
enough load to slow 'er down.  At full throttle is sounds like probably too
much fuel (H).  I think that if it was too little it would die.  Since both
of these "symptoms could be a result of too much low throttle fuel (L) you
should probably start by dialing it back a bit and see how thing go.  By
doing this you will lower the fuel at idle AND lower the fuel a full
throttle.  If you're lucky and my diagnosis is correct then you'll kill too
birds with one stone.

My advice is based on having 3 adjustment screws H (high throttle), L (low
throttle), T (min throttle).  If you're missing any one of these then it
has a jet which serves in its place.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD


On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 09:29 David Risch via CnC-List 
wrote:

> So instead of giving it away I rebuilt the carb and half dozen other fixes
> this winter.
>
> Runs and idles great, but at full throttle she bogs down continues to run,
> but sounds rougher.When out gear it goes right to full throttle.
>
> Perhaps overpropped?
>
> Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.
>
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2020-06-07 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
So instead of giving it away I rebuilt the carb and half dozen other fixes this 
winter.

Runs and idles great, but at full throttle she bogs down continues to run, but 
sounds rougher.When out gear it goes right to full throttle.

Perhaps overpropped?

Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.

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