Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3gm oil leak

2017-07-13 Thread sender via CnC-List
It is normal for a small amount of exhaust to blow-by the piston rings and
pressurize the crank case in any engine.  On the valve cover near the rear
of the engine  is a small 2x2 plate that covers  an oil seperation screen.
>From that assembly is a small hose that's run to the intake manifold to
re-circ the blow-by back into the engine.

Take all that apart and clean all the grunge out (including the hose & port
into the manifold) and your problem should be solved.

Should be an easy job to do.

Let us know how it works out.
Eric



On Wednesday, July 5, 2017, Howard and Skippy via CnC-List <
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> Hello All,
> For the last few years, I had a significant loss of oil whenever I ran
> the engine for more than a few minutes. During 1 run through Hell's Gate
> back to home waters in Raritan Bay, the oil light and buzzer sounded
> (naturally at the worst time). We hoisted the sails and sailed down the
> East River - not recommended! When in Raritan Bay the wind died, I got a
> tow from SeaTow back to the mooring. This convinced me to rebuild the
> engine over last winter, however, after a great deal of trouble shooting
> and having multiple eyes look at the situation, we noticed that the bulk of
> the oil was accumulating on the side of the engine with the dip stick. The
> dip stick slid in easily. Further exploration led to the conclusion that
> the source of the oil leak was, in fact, the dip stick. Finding a new
> replacement for an old 3GM was a task as all the dealers said none were
> available. An old salty engine repair man I met at the Annapolis boat show
> told me he could get one. He did. I now have a tight seal and no oil leak!
> If you have an old Yanmar and it has a mystery leak, check your dipstick
> for proper fit.
> Howard Paul, Skipper of Knot Again 35-3
>
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3gm oil leak

2017-07-05 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I had stuck rings and know what that looks like.  Cylinder 1 and 2 were 165
and 155 respectively.  3 was ~360.  I managed to get them unstuck and the
last time I checked they were all greater than 400.  They dipstick and HP
pump shims have always leaked at the same rate.

Josh

On Jul 5, 2017 2:17 PM, "Bill Dakin via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> The only time I've known this to happen on internal combustion engines was
> when the combustion gas pressures passed the compression rings and passed
> the oil control ring to cause crankcase pressures to force out oil spray.
> Oil spray within the crankcase is normal, it is when the negative pressure
> outside forces it out of filler.  Now might be a good time to run a
> compression test on the cylinders for the heck of it.
> bd
>
>
>  we noticed that the bulk of the oil was accumulating on the side of the
>> engine with the dip stick. The dip stick slid in easily. Further
>> exploration led to the conclusion that the source of the oil leak was, in
>> fact, the dip stick. Finding a new replacement for an old 3GM was a task as
>> all the dealers said n
>>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3gm oil leak

2017-07-05 Thread Bill Dakin via CnC-List
The only time I've known this to happen on internal combustion engines was
when the combustion gas pressures passed the compression rings and passed
the oil control ring to cause crankcase pressures to force out oil spray.
Oil spray within the crankcase is normal, it is when the negative pressure
outside forces it out of filler.  Now might be a good time to run a
compression test on the cylinders for the heck of it.
bd


 we noticed that the bulk of the oil was accumulating on the side of the
> engine with the dip stick. The dip stick slid in easily. Further
> exploration led to the conclusion that the source of the oil leak was, in
> fact, the dip stick. Finding a new replacement for an old 3GM was a task as
> all the dealers said n
>
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3gm oil leak

2017-07-05 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
I had the same leak.  I was able to get a new dipstick from the local
Yanmar dealer (Cook Engines).

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Howard and Skippy via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello All,
> For the last few years, I had a significant loss of oil whenever I ran
> the engine for more than a few minutes. During 1 run through Hell's Gate
> back to home waters in Raritan Bay, the oil light and buzzer sounded
> (naturally at the worst time). We hoisted the sails and sailed down the
> East River - not recommended! When in Raritan Bay the wind died, I got a
> tow from SeaTow back to the mooring. This convinced me to rebuild the
> engine over last winter, however, after a great deal of trouble shooting
> and having multiple eyes look at the situation, we noticed that the bulk of
> the oil was accumulating on the side of the engine with the dip stick. The
> dip stick slid in easily. Further exploration led to the conclusion that
> the source of the oil leak was, in fact, the dip stick. Finding a new
> replacement for an old 3GM was a task as all the dealers said none were
> available. An old salty engine repair man I met at the Annapolis boat show
> told me he could get one. He did. I now have a tight seal and no oil leak!
> If you have an old Yanmar and it has a mystery leak, check your dipstick
> for proper fit.
> Howard Paul, Skipper of Knot Again 35-3
>
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Rose City YC
Portland, OR
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3gm oil leak

2017-07-05 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I experience a similar condition.  Mine is compounded by the HP pump shims
weeping oil.  I'd be willing to try a new dipstick first if one was
available and not too costly.  Truly I probably only need the dipstick
gasket.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Jul 5, 2017 11:56 AM, "Howard and Skippy via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello All,
> For the last few years, I had a significant loss of oil whenever I ran
> the engine for more than a few minutes. During 1 run through Hell's Gate
> back to home waters in Raritan Bay, the oil light and buzzer sounded
> (naturally at the worst time). We hoisted the sails and sailed down the
> East River - not recommended! When in Raritan Bay the wind died, I got a
> tow from SeaTow back to the mooring. This convinced me to rebuild the
> engine over last winter, however, after a great deal of trouble shooting
> and having multiple eyes look at the situation, we noticed that the bulk of
> the oil was accumulating on the side of the engine with the dip stick. The
> dip stick slid in easily. Further exploration led to the conclusion that
> the source of the oil leak was, in fact, the dip stick. Finding a new
> replacement for an old 3GM was a task as all the dealers said none were
> available. An old salty engine repair man I met at the Annapolis boat show
> told me he could get one. He did. I now have a tight seal and no oil leak!
> If you have an old Yanmar and it has a mystery leak, check your dipstick
> for proper fit.
> Howard Paul, Skipper of Knot Again 35-3
>
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> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:
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Stus-List Yanmar 3gm oil leak

2017-07-05 Thread Howard and Skippy via CnC-List

Hello All,
For the last few years, I had a significant loss of oil whenever I 
ran the engine for more than a few minutes. During 1 run through Hell's 
Gate back to home waters in Raritan Bay, the oil light and buzzer 
sounded (naturally at the worst time). We hoisted the sails and sailed 
down the East River - not recommended! When in Raritan Bay the wind 
died, I got a tow from SeaTow back to the mooring. This convinced me to 
rebuild the engine over last winter, however, after a great deal of 
trouble shooting and having multiple eyes look at the situation, we 
noticed that the bulk of the oil was accumulating on the side of the 
engine with the dip stick. The dip stick slid in easily. Further 
exploration led to the conclusion that the source of the oil leak was, 
in fact, the dip stick. Finding a new replacement for an old 3GM was a 
task as all the dealers said none were available. An old salty engine 
repair man I met at the Annapolis boat show told me he could get one. He 
did. I now have a tight seal and no oil leak! If you have an old Yanmar 
and it has a mystery leak, check your dipstick for proper fit.

Howard Paul, Skipper of Knot Again 35-3

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