Re: Stus-List block lubricant
Pete, T-9 works great on electrical connections like battery terminals and such. It leaves behind a protective film that can be goopy. I flush my blocks with fresh water and use Mclube in many places. I now use One Drop on the traveler and genoa cars. It does work wonders... Jake Jake Brodersen "Midnight Mistress" C&C 35 Mk-III Hampton VA -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Pete Shelquist via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 1:47 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List block lubricant We just finished a week long distance race series and during the race I noticed that the blocks that we lube with T-9 become pretty gunked up. We cleaned with a solvent, rinsed with soapy water and fresh water, then re-applied. Same result after a day or two. Anyone have similar experience? Does anyone have another product suggestion? Anyone use Mclube One Drop? Thanks, Pete 37 Lake Superior ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List block lubricant
I flush blocks, rope clutches, etc liberally with water. The only lube I would be tempted to use on Harken blocks is McLube. I use Superlube on slides and T-track things. Don't forget to flush your furler drum and swivel with water at LEAST annually. T-9 is for electrical use, not lube applications. If you want to spray a corrosion inhibitor on blocks, try Corrosion Block. It doesn't last long but it doesn't seem to leave a residue. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List > wrote: > > Generally with blocks that have ball / roller / needle bearings you do > not want a slippery lubricant. The blocks work by having the bearings > roll not slide. A proper grease / wax has the property of carrying away > debris, preventing corrosion and leaving a tiny film between the elements > without causing them to slide. > > Most lubricant when rolled over in the presence of water will end up > mixing with the water, the result being aptly described as "goopy". > So oiling or greasing an open bearing ( no seals ) is never likely to work. > > Michael Brown > Windburn > C&C 30-1 > > > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:04:26 +0000 > From: Wally Bryant > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List block lubricant (and goodbye Robin > Williams) > Message-ID: <53ebb6ba.70...@wbryant.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > T9. > > Yeah, I've seen that goopy result. I don't use it any more. It might > be a great corrosion prohibiter, but my opinion is still out on that as > well. > > The only thing I trust is a good fresh water rinse. > > Back about 220 years ago I was a scuba instructor working a 90 foot boat > in the Caribbean, and I asked the Captain/Owner why he was always > heading into squalls. 'Free fresh water rinse,' he said. I thought I > understood, but really didn't, because I didn't own my own boat. > Later, I was sailing with a guy who knew everything, (including how to > sail my boat,) and at the end of the day I said 'well, it's about time > you did something, why don't you wash the boat down while I walk down > the dock and talk with Cheryl.' He showed up a few minutes later and > said, 'Do you mean you want me to hose off everything that's metal?' and > I said 'no, I want you to hose off everything that's BOAT.' > > And even later, I hadn't seen rain (i.e. water falling from the sky) in > three years, and went a little wild during a rainstorm, and blasted > Clapton's 'Let It Rain' along with Pete Townsend's 'Rain' and a few > other rain oriented tunes through my cockpit speakers, while I danced on > the foredeck. > > Onto every boat, a little rain must fall. It cleans the rig. > > And even later than that, I sailed with a guy who was a certified > expert. He told me to oil the bearings in my Harken Mark I furler. > That's the last thing you want to do. But you really can't tell experts > what to do. All those bearings need is a fresh water rinse, but if they > get sticky it *might* be because someone cranked the halyard on the jib > too tight. It must have happened while I was asleep, because when I > slacked off on the halyard about two inches the furler suddenly started > working again. > > Wal > > PS. Nanu Nanu, dude. > > > > Pete wrote: > > We just finished a week long distance race series and during the race I > > noticed that the blocks that we lube with T-9 become pretty gunked up. We > > cleaned with a solvent, rinsed with soapy water and fresh water, then > > re-applied. Same result after a day or two. Anyone have similar > > experience? > > > -- > s/v Stella Blue > www.wbryant.com > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List block lubricant
Generally with blocks that have ball / roller / needle bearings you do not want a slippery lubricant. The blocks work by having the bearings roll not slide. A proper grease / wax has the property of carrying away debris, preventing corrosion and leaving a tiny film between the elements without causing them to slide. Most lubricant when rolled over in the presence of water will end up mixing with the water, the result being aptly described as "goopy". So oiling or greasing an open bearing ( no seals ) is never likely to work. Michael Brown Windburn C&C 30-1 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:04:26 + From: Wally Bryant To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List block lubricant (and goodbye Robin Williams) Message-ID: <53ebb6ba.70...@wbryant.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed T9. Yeah, I've seen that goopy result. I don't use it any more. It might be a great corrosion prohibiter, but my opinion is still out on that as well. The only thing I trust is a good fresh water rinse. Back about 220 years ago I was a scuba instructor working a 90 foot boat in the Caribbean, and I asked the Captain/Owner why he was always heading into squalls. 'Free fresh water rinse,' he said. I thought I understood, but really didn't, because I didn't own my own boat. Later, I was sailing with a guy who knew everything, (including how to sail my boat,) and at the end of the day I said 'well, it's about time you did something, why don't you wash the boat down while I walk down the dock and talk with Cheryl.' He showed up a few minutes later and said, 'Do you mean you want me to hose off everything that's metal?' and I said 'no, I want you to hose off everything that's BOAT.' And even later, I hadn't seen rain (i.e. water falling from the sky) in three years, and went a little wild during a rainstorm, and blasted Clapton's 'Let It Rain' along with Pete Townsend's 'Rain' and a few other rain oriented tunes through my cockpit speakers, while I danced on the foredeck. Onto every boat, a little rain must fall. It cleans the rig. And even later than that, I sailed with a guy who was a certified expert. He told me to oil the bearings in my Harken Mark I furler. That's the last thing you want to do. But you really can't tell experts what to do. All those bearings need is a fresh water rinse, but if they get sticky it *might* be because someone cranked the halyard on the jib too tight. It must have happened while I was asleep, because when I slacked off on the halyard about two inches the furler suddenly started working again. Wal PS. Nanu Nanu, dude. Pete wrote: > We just finished a week long distance race series and during the race I > noticed that the blocks that we lube with T-9 become pretty gunked up. We > cleaned with a solvent, rinsed with soapy water and fresh water, then > re-applied. Same result after a day or two. Anyone have similar > experience? -- s/v Stella Blue www.wbryant.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List block lubricant
Have you ever tried Sailkote. If there is anything that needs lubricating, this things usually works. Marek (in Ottawa) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 5:36 PM To: 'Pete Shelquist'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List block lubricant Try Fluid film Dwight Veinot C&C 35MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Pete Shelquist via CnC-List Sent: August 13, 2014 2:47 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List block lubricant We just finished a week long distance race series and during the race I noticed that the blocks that we lube with T-9 become pretty gunked up. We cleaned with a solvent, rinsed with soapy water and fresh water, then re-applied. Same result after a day or two. Anyone have similar experience? Does anyone have another product suggestion? Anyone use Mclube One Drop? Thanks, Pete 37 Lake Superior ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/8000 - Release Date: 08/07/14 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List block lubricant
Try Fluid film Dwight Veinot C&C 35MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Pete Shelquist via CnC-List Sent: August 13, 2014 2:47 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List block lubricant We just finished a week long distance race series and during the race I noticed that the blocks that we lube with T-9 become pretty gunked up. We cleaned with a solvent, rinsed with soapy water and fresh water, then re-applied. Same result after a day or two. Anyone have similar experience? Does anyone have another product suggestion? Anyone use Mclube One Drop? Thanks, Pete 37 Lake Superior ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/8000 - Release Date: 08/07/14 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List block lubricant (and goodbye Robin Williams)
T9. Yeah, I've seen that goopy result. I don't use it any more. It might be a great corrosion prohibiter, but my opinion is still out on that as well. The only thing I trust is a good fresh water rinse. Back about 220 years ago I was a scuba instructor working a 90 foot boat in the Caribbean, and I asked the Captain/Owner why he was always heading into squalls. 'Free fresh water rinse,' he said. I thought I understood, but really didn't, because I didn't own my own boat. Later, I was sailing with a guy who knew everything, (including how to sail my boat,) and at the end of the day I said 'well, it's about time you did something, why don't you wash the boat down while I walk down the dock and talk with Cheryl.' He showed up a few minutes later and said, 'Do you mean you want me to hose off everything that's metal?' and I said 'no, I want you to hose off everything that's BOAT.' And even later, I hadn't seen rain (i.e. water falling from the sky) in three years, and went a little wild during a rainstorm, and blasted Clapton's 'Let It Rain' along with Pete Townsend's 'Rain' and a few other rain oriented tunes through my cockpit speakers, while I danced on the foredeck. Onto every boat, a little rain must fall. It cleans the rig. And even later than that, I sailed with a guy who was a certified expert. He told me to oil the bearings in my Harken Mark I furler. That's the last thing you want to do. But you really can't tell experts what to do. All those bearings need is a fresh water rinse, but if they get sticky it *might* be because someone cranked the halyard on the jib too tight. It must have happened while I was asleep, because when I slacked off on the halyard about two inches the furler suddenly started working again. Wal PS. Nanu Nanu, dude. Pete wrote: We just finished a week long distance race series and during the race I noticed that the blocks that we lube with T-9 become pretty gunked up. We cleaned with a solvent, rinsed with soapy water and fresh water, then re-applied. Same result after a day or two. Anyone have similar experience? -- s/v Stella Blue www.wbryant.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List block lubricant
Stop after soap and water treatment. Plastic bearing blocks don't generally require any lubricant other than a good rinsing occasionally. I have all Harken running gear and traveler and have never done anything other than rinse. 17 years for some of it. Rich > On Aug 13, 2014, at 14:46, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List > wrote: > > > We just finished a week long distance race series and during the race I > noticed that the blocks that we lube with T-9 become pretty gunked up. We > cleaned with a solvent, rinsed with soapy water and fresh water, then > re-applied. Same result after a day or two. Anyone have similar > experience? Does anyone have another product suggestion? Anyone use > Mclube One Drop? > > Thanks, > Pete > 37 > Lake Superior > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List block lubricant
Or Captain Phab -Original Message- From: "Pete Shelquist via CnC-List" Sent: 2014-08-13 1:46 PM To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Stus-List block lubricant We just finished a week long distance race series and during the race I noticed that the blocks that we lube with T-9 become pretty gunked up. We cleaned with a solvent, rinsed with soapy water and fresh water, then re-applied. Same result after a day or two. Anyone have similar experience? Does anyone have another product suggestion? Anyone use Mclube One Drop? Thanks, Pete 37 Lake Superior ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List block lubricant
I just lubed some sticky snatch blocks with Harken Mclube - the aerosol version. Eased right up and now spin nicely -- Jonathan Indigo C&C 35III SOUTHPORT CT > On Aug 13, 2014, at 13:46, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List > wrote: > > > We just finished a week long distance race series and during the race I > noticed that the blocks that we lube with T-9 become pretty gunked up. We > cleaned with a solvent, rinsed with soapy water and fresh water, then > re-applied. Same result after a day or two. Anyone have similar > experience? Does anyone have another product suggestion? Anyone use > Mclube One Drop? > > Thanks, > Pete > 37 > Lake Superior > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List block lubricant
We just finished a week long distance race series and during the race I noticed that the blocks that we lube with T-9 become pretty gunked up. We cleaned with a solvent, rinsed with soapy water and fresh water, then re-applied. Same result after a day or two. Anyone have similar experience? Does anyone have another product suggestion? Anyone use Mclube One Drop? Thanks, Pete 37 Lake Superior ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
