Re: Stus-List bus heater

[Graham Collins via CnC-List]

Hi Mike
That should work well.  Two comments:
1) make sure stuff can't shift in the locker to contact the fan blades - 
some of their heaters don't have grills over the back of the fans.
2) you should consider where the air is going to get sucked from as you 
want to ensure enough of it can get in.  I've got a unit in the locker 
under the v-berth, and added a little grill so that air can get sucked 
back in.


Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2015-09-25 1:15 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:


Hi

Purchased the following heater from “The Binnacle” in Halifax.  I did 
this since we sail from beginning of May til end of October every 
year.  Not interested in a wall furnace just some heat while under 
motor (deliveries, etc…)


http://ca.binnacle.com/BBQ-Stoves-and-Heaters-Cabin-Heaters/c7_266/p8587/HEATER-CRAFT-COMPACT-CABIN-HEATER/product_info.html

Any comments on the installation?  Am planning to install on forward 
facing knee wall of quarter berth facing nav station.  Am thinking 
that I will rout the hose currently going to water heater to this 
heater first and from there to hot water heater.  Have a Yanmar 3GM30F 
with hot water etc …


Mike

Persistence

1987 Ferrs 33



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Re: Stus-List bus heater

[Rick Rohwer via CnC-List]

I had a similar heater (Red Dot) on a previous 36 ft cutter with vent in salon. 
It would nearly drive you out of the boat with heat. I hope to install similar 
heater on my boat using existing ducting from my Espar heater so that either 
system could provide heat depending on whether the engine was cooking or not! 
It's on the project list!  We have a propane wall furnace as well and it has 
been very effective and appreciated.
The Red Dot was probably one of the best $200-300 dollar investments I made in 
that boat. Boat was usually dry as a bone and my family would be fine for 
winter and cold weather trips!
I can't imagine why it would make much difference which way you run the glycol 
loop but It is important to run it down line of the thermostat in my opinion so 
that the engine maintains it's heat level. Diesels don't like to run cool 
apparently!
Good luck with your project!
Cheers
Rick
Paikea  37+
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> On Sep 26, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike
> That should work well.  Two comments:
> 1) make sure stuff can't shift in the locker to contact the fan blades - some 
> of their heaters don't have grills over the back of the fans.
> 2) you should consider where the air is going to get sucked from as you want 
> to ensure enough of it can get in.  I've got a unit in the locker under the 
> v-berth, and added a little grill so that air can get sucked back in.
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C 35-III #11
>> On 2015-09-25 1:15 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:
>> Hi
>>  
>> Purchased the following heater from “The Binnacle” in Halifax.  I did this 
>> since we sail from beginning of May til end of October every year.  Not 
>> interested in a wall furnace just some heat while under motor (deliveries, 
>> etc…)
>>  
>> http://ca.binnacle.com/BBQ-Stoves-and-Heaters-Cabin-Heaters/c7_266/p8587/HEATER-CRAFT-COMPACT-CABIN-HEATER/product_info.html
>>  
>> Any comments on the installation?  Am planning to install on forward facing 
>> knee wall of quarter berth facing nav station.  Am thinking that I will rout 
>> the hose currently going to water heater to this heater first and from there 
>> to hot water heater.  Have a Yanmar 3GM30F with hot water etc …
>>  
>> Mike
>>  
>> Persistence
>> 1987 Ferrs 33
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> 
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Stus-List bus heater

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Hi

Purchased the following heater from “The Binnacle” in Halifax.  I did this 
since we sail from beginning of May til end of October every year.  Not 
interested in a wall furnace just some heat while under motor (deliveries, etc…)

http://ca.binnacle.com/BBQ-Stoves-and-Heaters-Cabin-Heaters/c7_266/p8587/HEATER-CRAFT-COMPACT-CABIN-HEATER/product_info.html

Any comments on the installation?  Am planning to install on forward facing 
knee wall of quarter berth facing nav station.  Am thinking that I will rout 
the hose currently going to water heater to this heater first and from there to 
hot water heater.  Have a Yanmar 3GM30F with hot water etc …

Mike

Persistence
1987 Ferrs 33


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Re: Stus-List bus heater

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Don't store smelly bags of garbage in that locker during cool weather!

;-)

Ken H.

On 25 September 2015 at 13:58, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Thanks Ken
>
>
>
> Heater will likely be below the level of the hot water tank currently
> using these hoses.  Also the fresh water pump was replaced this summer so
> should be ok for the task
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken
> Heaton via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, September 25, 2015 1:54 PM
>
> *To:* cnc-list
> *Cc:* Ken Heaton
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List bus heater
>
>
>
> OK, so the air will come from that locker unless you add some duct work to
> have it draw from the cabin. Should be fine I think.
>
>
>
> Ken H.
>
>
>
> Spotted this on their website but your heater should be low enough I'd
> think:
>
>
>
> Caution – If your engine application has a freshwater closed cooling
> system the heater unit should be mounted below the level of the radiator
> cap. If the heater is mounted above this level it is possible for air to
> become trapped in-line. If there is air trapped in-line it will not allow
> the water to circulate efficiently and may cause the engine to overheat. If
> the heater unit is mounted above the radiator cap it may be necessary to
> install an in-line air bleed valve at the highest point or an in-line
> circulation pump.
>
>
>
> On 25 September 2015 at 13:42, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> No idea where the air comes from.  Not bilge though.  Back side of heater
> will be in a locker beneath quarter berth.
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken
> Heaton via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, September 25, 2015 1:39 PM
> *To:* cnc-list
> *Cc:* Ken Heaton
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List bus heater
>
>
>
> A friend had one in his Viking 33.  Worked well.
>
>
>
> Will you be drawing the air to be heated out of the bilge?  Or will it
> draw from the cabin?  Either seems to work fine, the first helps dry the
> bilge, the latter heats the cabin more quickly.
>
>
>
> Ken H.
>
>
>
> On 25 September 2015 at 13:15, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> Purchased the following heater from “The Binnacle” in Halifax.  I did this
> since we sail from beginning of May til end of October every year.  Not
> interested in a wall furnace just some heat while under motor (deliveries,
> etc…)
>
>
>
>
> http://ca.binnacle.com/BBQ-Stoves-and-Heaters-Cabin-Heaters/c7_266/p8587/HEATER-CRAFT-COMPACT-CABIN-HEATER/product_info.html
>
>
>
> Any comments on the installation?  Am planning to install on forward
> facing knee wall of quarter berth facing nav station.  Am thinking that I
> will rout the hose currently going to water heater to this heater first and
> from there to hot water heater.  Have a Yanmar 3GM30F with hot water etc …
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Persistence
>
> 1987 Ferrs 33
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List bus heater

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

A friend had one in his Viking 33.  Worked well.

Will you be drawing the air to be heated out of the bilge?  Or will it draw
from the cabin?  Either seems to work fine, the first helps dry the bilge,
the latter heats the cabin more quickly.

Ken H.

On 25 September 2015 at 13:15, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
>
>
> Purchased the following heater from “The Binnacle” in Halifax.  I did this
> since we sail from beginning of May til end of October every year.  Not
> interested in a wall furnace just some heat while under motor (deliveries,
> etc…)
>
>
>
>
> http://ca.binnacle.com/BBQ-Stoves-and-Heaters-Cabin-Heaters/c7_266/p8587/HEATER-CRAFT-COMPACT-CABIN-HEATER/product_info.html
>
>
>
> Any comments on the installation?  Am planning to install on forward
> facing knee wall of quarter berth facing nav station.  Am thinking that I
> will rout the hose currently going to water heater to this heater first and
> from there to hot water heater.  Have a Yanmar 3GM30F with hot water etc …
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Persistence
>
> 1987 Ferrs 33
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List bus heater

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

OK, so the air will come from that locker unless you add some duct work to
have it draw from the cabin. Should be fine I think.

Ken H.

Spotted this on their website but your heater should be low enough I'd
think:

Caution – If your engine application has a freshwater closed cooling system
the heater unit should be mounted below the level of the radiator cap. If
the heater is mounted above this level it is possible for air to become
trapped in-line. If there is air trapped in-line it will not allow the
water to circulate efficiently and may cause the engine to overheat. If the
heater unit is mounted above the radiator cap it may be necessary to
install an in-line air bleed valve at the highest point or an in-line
circulation pump.

On 25 September 2015 at 13:42, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Ken
>
>
>
> No idea where the air comes from.  Not bilge though.  Back side of heater
> will be in a locker beneath quarter berth.
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken
> Heaton via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, September 25, 2015 1:39 PM
> *To:* cnc-list
> *Cc:* Ken Heaton
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List bus heater
>
>
>
> A friend had one in his Viking 33.  Worked well.
>
>
>
> Will you be drawing the air to be heated out of the bilge?  Or will it
> draw from the cabin?  Either seems to work fine, the first helps dry the
> bilge, the latter heats the cabin more quickly.
>
>
>
> Ken H.
>
>
>
> On 25 September 2015 at 13:15, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> Purchased the following heater from “The Binnacle” in Halifax.  I did this
> since we sail from beginning of May til end of October every year.  Not
> interested in a wall furnace just some heat while under motor (deliveries,
> etc…)
>
>
>
>
> http://ca.binnacle.com/BBQ-Stoves-and-Heaters-Cabin-Heaters/c7_266/p8587/HEATER-CRAFT-COMPACT-CABIN-HEATER/product_info.html
>
>
>
> Any comments on the installation?  Am planning to install on forward
> facing knee wall of quarter berth facing nav station.  Am thinking that I
> will rout the hose currently going to water heater to this heater first and
> from there to hot water heater.  Have a Yanmar 3GM30F with hot water etc …
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Persistence
>
> 1987 Ferrs 33
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List bus heater

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Thanks Ken

Heater will likely be below the level of the hot water tank currently using 
these hoses.  Also the fresh water pump was replaced this summer so should be 
ok for the task

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ken Heaton 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 1:54 PM
To: cnc-list
Cc: Ken Heaton
Subject: Re: Stus-List bus heater

OK, so the air will come from that locker unless you add some duct work to have 
it draw from the cabin. Should be fine I think.

Ken H.

Spotted this on their website but your heater should be low enough I'd think:

Caution – If your engine application has a freshwater closed cooling system the 
heater unit should be mounted below the level of the radiator cap. If the 
heater is mounted above this level it is possible for air to become trapped 
in-line. If there is air trapped in-line it will not allow the water to 
circulate efficiently and may cause the engine to overheat. If the heater unit 
is mounted above the radiator cap it may be necessary to install an in-line air 
bleed valve at the highest point or an in-line circulation pump.

On 25 September 2015 at 13:42, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Ken

No idea where the air comes from.  Not bilge though.  Back side of heater will 
be in a locker beneath quarter berth.

From: CnC-List 
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Behalf Of Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 1:39 PM
To: cnc-list
Cc: Ken Heaton
Subject: Re: Stus-List bus heater

A friend had one in his Viking 33.  Worked well.

Will you be drawing the air to be heated out of the bilge?  Or will it draw 
from the cabin?  Either seems to work fine, the first helps dry the bilge, the 
latter heats the cabin more quickly.

Ken H.

On 25 September 2015 at 13:15, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi

Purchased the following heater from “The Binnacle” in Halifax.  I did this 
since we sail from beginning of May til end of October every year.  Not 
interested in a wall furnace just some heat while under motor (deliveries, etc…)

http://ca.binnacle.com/BBQ-Stoves-and-Heaters-Cabin-Heaters/c7_266/p8587/HEATER-CRAFT-COMPACT-CABIN-HEATER/product_info.html

Any comments on the installation?  Am planning to install on forward facing 
knee wall of quarter berth facing nav station.  Am thinking that I will rout 
the hose currently going to water heater to this heater first and from there to 
hot water heater.  Have a Yanmar 3GM30F with hot water etc …

Mike

Persistence
1987 Ferrs 33



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Re: Stus-List bus heater

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Ken

No idea where the air comes from.  Not bilge though.  Back side of heater will 
be in a locker beneath quarter berth.

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ken Heaton 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 1:39 PM
To: cnc-list
Cc: Ken Heaton
Subject: Re: Stus-List bus heater

A friend had one in his Viking 33.  Worked well.

Will you be drawing the air to be heated out of the bilge?  Or will it draw 
from the cabin?  Either seems to work fine, the first helps dry the bilge, the 
latter heats the cabin more quickly.

Ken H.

On 25 September 2015 at 13:15, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi

Purchased the following heater from “The Binnacle” in Halifax.  I did this 
since we sail from beginning of May til end of October every year.  Not 
interested in a wall furnace just some heat while under motor (deliveries, etc…)

http://ca.binnacle.com/BBQ-Stoves-and-Heaters-Cabin-Heaters/c7_266/p8587/HEATER-CRAFT-COMPACT-CABIN-HEATER/product_info.html

Any comments on the installation?  Am planning to install on forward facing 
knee wall of quarter berth facing nav station.  Am thinking that I will rout 
the hose currently going to water heater to this heater first and from there to 
hot water heater.  Have a Yanmar 3GM30F with hot water etc …

Mike

Persistence
1987 Ferrs 33



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