Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication
Roger that! Popeye Dennis wrote: I tried most. Now I use olive oil. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication
I tried most. Now I use olive oil. We keep a small bottle on the boat for cooking. We don't use much so every spring I buy a new bottle and move the old one into the head to use for head lube. As an experiment, I tried coating the o-ring and joker valve with TefGel. After a while the pump got stiffer and a bit harder to pump. I think the joker valve got scaled up anyway. Back to olive oil. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > So, how is the Jabsco head lubricated? Just toss Crisco in the bowl and > flush? Mine was out of use for a while and appears to work, but squeaks a > bit and feels stiff. > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Alex Giannelia > > a...@airsensing.com > > (416) 203-9858 > > > > ___ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication
I have been using cheap vegetable oil for years with good results. I am in fresh water. From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 5:45 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Coleman I remember reading on one of the cruising forums to use Baby Oil. Tried that, and now my Skipper really feels like the rubber in the pump is galling. (plus, yes, it probably puts a coating in the holding tank) I went back to the Thetford lubricant, and it works good after that, but It doesn't last long. Think I am going to have to rebuild the seals, maybe I will stick to the thetford stuff after that. I get it at the RV store, cheaper. Regards, Bill Coleman From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 12:29 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton Subject: Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication I used to use olive oil, but my feeling now is that would leave a film on top of the liquid in the holding tank, preventing air from getting at it, which would result on a foul odor. Perhaps one of the dedicated head lubes would be the ticket. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List wrote: So, how is the Jabsco head lubricated? Just toss Crisco in the bowl and flush? Mine was out of use for a while and appears to work, but squeaks a bit and feels stiff.  Thanks,  Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com (416) 203-9858  ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication
I remember reading on one of the cruising forums to use Baby Oil. Tried that, and now my Skipper really feels like the rubber in the pump is galling. (plus, yes, it probably puts a coating in the holding tank) I went back to the Thetford lubricant, and it works good after that, but It doesn't last long. Think I am going to have to rebuild the seals, maybe I will stick to the thetford stuff after that. I get it at the RV store, cheaper. Regards, Bill Coleman From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 12:29 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton Subject: Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication I used to use olive oil, but my feeling now is that would leave a film on top of the liquid in the holding tank, preventing air from getting at it, which would result on a foul odor. Perhaps one of the dedicated head lubes would be the ticket. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List wrote: So, how is the Jabsco head lubricated? Just toss Crisco in the bowl and flush? Mine was out of use for a while and appears to work, but squeaks a bit and feels stiff.  Thanks,  Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com (416) 203-9858  ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 <>___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication
th great thing about this list is you learn better approaches to things every day! Thanks Nate On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > The one caveat I know of regarding using oil based head lube goes with > using a bioactive product for reducing odors. > > > > I have been using KO (Kills Odors) and CP (Cleans Potties) now sold by > Raritan, for over 20 years. An oil lube will do exactly what Andy and Tim > described. The bioactive ingredients need plenty of air/ventilation to > work correctly. I have two vents in Calypso’s 40 gal holding tank. > > > > I used the CP product as Calypso’s head lube as it is compatible with the > bioactive KO. > > > > Martin DeYoung > > Calypso > > 1971 C&C 43 > > Seattle > > > [image: Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim > Goodyear via CnC-List > *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2015 10:32 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Tim Goodyear > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication > > > > I tried mineral oil (once) last year - it resulted in exactly the > situation that Andy predicted; floating on top of the liquid and causing > anaerobic bacteria to thrive and develop... The marine lube solutions seem > to be best and don't seem to affect the nitrate-based deodorizing solutions > that promote aerobic (less smelly) bacteria growth. > > > > Tim > > Mojito > > C&C 35-3 > > Branford, CT > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > I used to use olive oil, but my feeling now is that would leave a film on > top of the liquid in the holding tank, preventing air from getting at it, > which would result on a foul odor. > > Perhaps one of the dedicated head lubes would be the ticket. > > Andy > > C&C 40 > > Peregrine > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > So, how is the Jabsco head lubricated? Just toss Crisco in the bowl > and flush? Mine was out of use for a while and appears to work, but > squeaks a bit and feels stiff. > > Thanks, > > > Alex Giannelia > > a...@airsensing.com > > (416) 203-9858 > > > > ___ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication
The one caveat I know of regarding using oil based head lube goes with using a bioactive product for reducing odors. I have been using KO (Kills Odors) and CP (Cleans Potties) now sold by Raritan, for over 20 years. An oil lube will do exactly what Andy and Tim described. The bioactive ingredients need plenty of air/ventilation to work correctly. I have two vents in Calypso’s 40 gal holding tank. I used the CP product as Calypso’s head lube as it is compatible with the bioactive KO. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Seattle [Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim Goodyear via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 10:32 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Tim Goodyear Subject: Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication I tried mineral oil (once) last year - it resulted in exactly the situation that Andy predicted; floating on top of the liquid and causing anaerobic bacteria to thrive and develop... The marine lube solutions seem to be best and don't seem to affect the nitrate-based deodorizing solutions that promote aerobic (less smelly) bacteria growth. Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 Branford, CT On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: I used to use olive oil, but my feeling now is that would leave a film on top of the liquid in the holding tank, preventing air from getting at it, which would result on a foul odor. Perhaps one of the dedicated head lubes would be the ticket. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: So, how is the Jabsco head lubricated? Just toss Crisco in the bowl and flush? Mine was out of use for a while and appears to work, but squeaks a bit and feels stiff. Thanks, Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com<mailto:a...@airsensing.com> (416) 203-9858 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication
I tried mineral oil (once) last year - it resulted in exactly the situation that Andy predicted; floating on top of the liquid and causing anaerobic bacteria to thrive and develop... The marine lube solutions seem to be best and don't seem to affect the nitrate-based deodorizing solutions that promote aerobic (less smelly) bacteria growth. Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 Branford, CT On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I used to use olive oil, but my feeling now is that would leave a film on > top of the liquid in the holding tank, preventing air from getting at it, > which would result on a foul odor. > Perhaps one of the dedicated head lubes would be the ticket. > > Andy > C&C 40 > Peregrine > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> So, how is the Jabsco head lubricated? Just toss Crisco in the bowl and >> flush? Mine was out of use for a while and appears to work, but squeaks a >> bit and feels stiff. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> >> Alex Giannelia >> >> a...@airsensing.com >> >> (416) 203-9858 >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >> bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> > > > -- > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett Ave > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > phone +401 965 5260 > > ___ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication
I pump some 50/50 ethylene glycol/water mixture (same as I use for winterizing) thru it ocaisionally, letting it sit unused overnight and all winter during storage...mine is an electric unit that is now about 6 years old and still cranking smooth...sometimes during the summer I also treat it gently with 5 or 10 mL of baby oil Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna* Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > So, how is the Jabsco head lubricated? Just toss Crisco in the bowl and > flush? Mine was out of use for a while and appears to work, but squeaks a > bit and feels stiff. > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Alex Giannelia > > a...@airsensing.com > > (416) 203-9858 > > > > ___ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication
On the subject, I was told by a sanitation mechanic to use about about a tablespoon of mineral oil. So far all seems good. Lloyd Lippe Finesse Landfall 39 From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 11:28 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton Subject: Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication I used to use olive oil, but my feeling now is that would leave a film on top of the liquid in the holding tank, preventing air from getting at it, which would result on a foul odor. Perhaps one of the dedicated head lubes would be the ticket. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List wrote: So, how is the Jabsco head lubricated? Just toss Crisco in the bowl and flush? Mine was out of use for a while and appears to work, but squeaks a bit and feels stiff. Thanks, Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com (416) 203-9858 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication
I've used the West Marine head lube with success. The joker valve on my W-C head was acting up and, at the advice of some of the listers, instead of a new head or rebuild kit, I went with the lube. It worked and is still working. Gary 30-1 - Original Message - From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 12:28 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication I used to use olive oil, but my feeling now is that would leave a film on top of the liquid in the holding tank, preventing air from getting at it, which would result on a foul odor. Perhaps one of the dedicated head lubes would be the ticket. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List wrote: So, how is the Jabsco head lubricated? Just toss Crisco in the bowl and flush? Mine was out of use for a while and appears to work, but squeaks a bit and feels stiff. Thanks, Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com (416) 203-9858 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication
I used to use olive oil, but my feeling now is that would leave a film on top of the liquid in the holding tank, preventing air from getting at it, which would result on a foul odor. Perhaps one of the dedicated head lubes would be the ticket. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > So, how is the Jabsco head lubricated? Just toss Crisco in the bowl and > flush? Mine was out of use for a while and appears to work, but squeaks a > bit and feels stiff. > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Alex Giannelia > > a...@airsensing.com > > (416) 203-9858 > > > > ___ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List head question-lubrication
I've always used 1 tbsp olive oil with success. Nate On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > So, how is the Jabsco head lubricated? Just toss Crisco in the bowl and > flush? Mine was out of use for a while and appears to work, but squeaks a > bit and feels stiff. > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Alex Giannelia > > a...@airsensing.com > > (416) 203-9858 > > > > ___ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List head question-lubrication
So, how is the Jabsco head lubricated? Just toss Crisco in the bowl and flush? Mine was out of use for a while and appears to work, but squeaks a bit and feels stiff. Thanks, Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com (416) 203-9858 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
