Re: Stus-List question LF38 steering

2019-04-26 Thread john sandford via CnC-List 
Hi

I’m late posting on this one.

LF38 rudder stock Grease fitting is very tricky to get access to unless you are 
very skinny, flexible and have long arms and eyes on stalks.

I removed the grease fitting and replaced it with a high pressure hose with a 
grease nipple on the end. Found the hose at Crappytire, in the grease gun 
section. NPT male one end and female on the other.

Now I can apply grease using a grease gun in the Stbd Lazarete, alongside the 
fuel tank, without needing the above mentioned genetics.

And yes, what a HUGE difference a bit/lot of grease makes.

 

 

 

From: Camille Cloutier [mailto:camillepo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: April-26-19 10:15 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List question LF38 steering

 

Hi!!

 

Thank you for the quick and precise answer! It is very appreciated! 

 

Last question: what king of grease do you us in the grease cup? White grease?

 

Have a good day! 

 

Camille

 

 

 

Le mer. 24 avr. 2019 à 15:36, Dreuge via CnC-List  a 
écrit :

Camille,

 

I originally had steering which was stiff and somewhat resistant  to turning.  
My problem turned out to be old dry crusted grease in the rudder tube.  After 
dropping the rudder, cleaning out the old, and replacing the rudder lubed with 
SuperLube, resulted in nice smooth steering.  I grease it via a cup about once 
a year.  All remains nice and well.

 

It sounds easy, but it was a challenge to remove the radial. The bolts holding 
the radial together in my case were galled/corroded in place.  

 

Take a look at by blog post:  
http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/2014/12/rudder-and-steering.html

 

 

As for a grease cup, you likely do have one (or had one).  it should be on the 
aft starboard side of the rudder rube.   It is easy to access with the steering 
radial removed.  Regular access requires an arm contortion trick: open the deck 
access plate just aft of the rudder post, stick you arm down and twist it under 
the radial drive disk, then reach towards the rudder post.   It should be there.

 

 

 

-
Paul E.

1981 C Landfall 38 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

 

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

 

 

On Apr 24, 2019, at 11:10 AM, Camille Cloutier via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Hi,

We just signed in the CnC-List mailing list and we would have a question
concerning our C boat Landfall 38. We live in Qu?bec and we are french
speaking so I'll try to express myself as good as I can :)

We find that the streering wheel is harder to turn then other C we have
tried. We have replace all the wires so we are sure that the problem
doesn't come from the pedestal. In the instruction manual, they talk about a
grease cup which we don't have. We don't have teflon washer around the
rudder shaft in the water either.

Does anyone have informations about how the whole rudder system is put
together so we can recondition it to have a smooth and easy steering wheel
?

Thank you very much

Camille

 

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Re: Stus-List question LF38 steering

2019-04-26 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List 
Blue grease marine

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:16 AM Camille Cloutier via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi!!
>
> Thank you for the quick and precise answer! It is very appreciated!
>
> Last question: what king of grease do you us in the grease cup? White
> grease?
>
> Have a good day!
>
> Camille
>
>
>
> Le mer. 24 avr. 2019 à 15:36, Dreuge via CnC-List 
> a écrit :
>
>> Camille,
>>
>> I originally had steering which was stiff and somewhat resistant  to
>> turning.  My problem turned out to be old dry crusted grease in the rudder
>> tube.  After dropping the rudder, cleaning out the old, and replacing the
>> rudder lubed with SuperLube, resulted in nice smooth steering.  I grease it
>> via a cup about once a year.  All remains nice and well.
>>
>> It sounds easy, but it was a challenge to remove the radial. The bolts
>> holding the radial together in my case were galled/corroded in place.
>>
>> Take a look at by blog post:
>> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/2014/12/rudder-and-steering.html
>>
>>
>> As for a grease cup, you likely do have one (or had one).  it should be
>> on the aft starboard side of the rudder rube.   It is easy to access with
>> the steering radial removed.  Regular access requires an arm contortion
>> trick: open the deck access plate just aft of the rudder post, stick you
>> arm down and twist it under the radial drive disk, then reach towards the
>> rudder post.   It should be there.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Paul E.
>> 1981 C Landfall 38
>> S/V Johanna Rose
>> Fort Walton Beach, FL
>>
>> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> On Apr 24, 2019, at 11:10 AM, Camille Cloutier via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We just signed in the CnC-List mailing list and we would have a question
>> concerning our C boat Landfall 38. We live in Qu?bec and we are french
>> speaking so I'll try to express myself as good as I can :)
>>
>> We find that the streering wheel is harder to turn then other C we have
>> tried. We have replace all the wires so we are sure that the problem
>> doesn't come from the pedestal. In the instruction manual, they talk
>> about a
>> grease cup which we don't have. We don't have teflon washer around the
>> rudder shaft in the water either.
>>
>> Does anyone have informations about how the whole rudder system is put
>> together so we can recondition it to have a smooth and easy steering wheel
>> ?
>>
>> Thank you very much
>>
>> Camille
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List question LF38 steering

2019-04-26 Thread Dreuge via CnC-List 

I have been happy with SuperLube Synthetic grease.  Below is a quick link I 
found on Amazon.

I use Super Lube for many tasks.  In addition to lubricating the rudder, I use 
on winches (except the pawls), on O-rings, …, and some electrical terminals as 
it’s also a good dielectric grease.   

I even know of a guy who uses it for chapped lips (and swears by it).  While it 
is listed as a food grade lubricate, I have not gone that far yet!


https://www.amazon.com/Super-Lube-41160-Synthetic-Translucent/dp/B0083R1FME/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Super+Lube=1556301173=gateway=8-2
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Super-Lube-41160-Synthetic-Translucent/dp/B0083R1FME/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Super+Lube=1556301173=gateway=8-2>




-
Paul E.
1981 C Landfall 38 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

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> 
> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 09:15:09 -0400
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> 
> Hi!!
> 
> Thank you for the quick and precise answer! It is very appreciated!
> 
> Last question: what king of grease do you us in the grease cup? White
> grease?
> 
> Have a good day!
> 
> Camille
> 

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Re: Stus-List question LF38 steering

2019-04-26 Thread Camille Cloutier via CnC-List 
Hi!!

Thank you for the quick and precise answer! It is very appreciated!

Last question: what king of grease do you us in the grease cup? White
grease?

Have a good day!

Camille



Le mer. 24 avr. 2019 à 15:36, Dreuge via CnC-List  a
écrit :

> Camille,
>
> I originally had steering which was stiff and somewhat resistant  to
> turning.  My problem turned out to be old dry crusted grease in the rudder
> tube.  After dropping the rudder, cleaning out the old, and replacing the
> rudder lubed with SuperLube, resulted in nice smooth steering.  I grease it
> via a cup about once a year.  All remains nice and well.
>
> It sounds easy, but it was a challenge to remove the radial. The bolts
> holding the radial together in my case were galled/corroded in place.
>
> Take a look at by blog post:
> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/2014/12/rudder-and-steering.html
>
>
> As for a grease cup, you likely do have one (or had one).  it should be on
> the aft starboard side of the rudder rube.   It is easy to access with the
> steering radial removed.  Regular access requires an arm contortion trick:
> open the deck access plate just aft of the rudder post, stick you arm down
> and twist it under the radial drive disk, then reach towards the rudder
> post.   It should be there.
>
>
>
> -
> Paul E.
> 1981 C Landfall 38
> S/V Johanna Rose
> Fort Walton Beach, FL
>
> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/
>
>
> On Apr 24, 2019, at 11:10 AM, Camille Cloutier via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> We just signed in the CnC-List mailing list and we would have a question
> concerning our C boat Landfall 38. We live in Qu?bec and we are french
> speaking so I'll try to express myself as good as I can :)
>
> We find that the streering wheel is harder to turn then other C we have
> tried. We have replace all the wires so we are sure that the problem
> doesn't come from the pedestal. In the instruction manual, they talk about
> a
> grease cup which we don't have. We don't have teflon washer around the
> rudder shaft in the water either.
>
> Does anyone have informations about how the whole rudder system is put
> together so we can recondition it to have a smooth and easy steering wheel
> ?
>
> Thank you very much
>
> Camille
>
>
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>
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
>
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Re: Stus-List question LF38 steering

2019-04-24 Thread Dreuge via CnC-List 
Camille,

I originally had steering which was stiff and somewhat resistant  to turning.  
My problem turned out to be old dry crusted grease in the rudder tube.  After 
dropping the rudder, cleaning out the old, and replacing the rudder lubed with 
SuperLube, resulted in nice smooth steering.  I grease it via a cup about once 
a year.  All remains nice and well.

It sounds easy, but it was a challenge to remove the radial. The bolts holding 
the radial together in my case were galled/corroded in place.  

Take a look at by blog post:  
http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/2014/12/rudder-and-steering.html 



As for a grease cup, you likely do have one (or had one).  it should be on the 
aft starboard side of the rudder rube.   It is easy to access with the steering 
radial removed.  Regular access requires an arm contortion trick: open the deck 
access plate just aft of the rudder post, stick you arm down and twist it under 
the radial drive disk, then reach towards the rudder post.   It should be there.



-
Paul E.
1981 C Landfall 38 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ 
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2019, at 11:10 AM, Camille Cloutier via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> We just signed in the CnC-List mailing list and we would have a question
>> concerning our C boat Landfall 38. We live in Qu?bec and we are french
>> speaking so I'll try to express myself as good as I can :)
>> 
>> We find that the streering wheel is harder to turn then other C we have
>> tried. We have replace all the wires so we are sure that the problem
>> doesn't come from the pedestal. In the instruction manual, they talk about a
>> grease cup which we don't have. We don't have teflon washer around the
>> rudder shaft in the water either.
>> 
>> Does anyone have informations about how the whole rudder system is put
>> together so we can recondition it to have a smooth and easy steering wheel
>> ?
>> 
>> Thank you very much
>> 
>> Camille

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