Re: Stus-List sail folding machine questionnaire - now folding a headsail

2019-03-09 Thread Don Kern via CnC-List

Dennis

Do the same on Fireball where we launch Genoas out of a long zip bag 
that is secured to the toe rail. We pull the zipper forward to open the 
bag and attach the tack and head (led thru the pre-feed and onto the the 
twin foil). Pull the zipper back on aft end of bag which is laid between 
cabin and shrouds and and attach the sheets with bowlines.  Have not 
used soft shackles yet and am reluctant to do so.  We do a lot of short 
tacking to stay out the current so the sails do a lot of thrashing about 
every ten to twenty minutes.  Last season a J-30 had his main halyard 
soft shackle drop the main about 20 minutes into the race.  Had a very 
difficult time trying to recover the halyard, since the J-30 is a 
fractional rig and the s-shackle was in the sheave at the mast head.


Don

Fireball C II


On 3/9/2019 12:48 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:


We all have our preferred way of doing things on our boats.  :)

As a racer and long time foredeck, I fold all my headsails with the 
luff tape on top of itself.  If you do what I call a "cruiser fold" 
with the folds parallel to the foot and the head ending up in the 
middle, you risk ripping the luff tape when you launch the head sail.  
The tape will have to come from well aft of the pre-feeder or feeder 
and make a sharp bend from horizontal to vertical before feeding up 
the track. An overly enthusiastic crewperson jumping the sail might 
cause the luff tape to rip off.


The way you do it is to take a "half" fold at the luff only.  This 
will "cock" the sail slightly.  After the half fold, match the folds 
with the luff laying on top of itself. The leech will form a sawtooth 
as the leech folder works his/her way towards the luff.  The head is 
then folded to lie next to the tack.  When launching, the foredeck can 
easily find and hook up the tack and head.


The luff tape should lay well forward in the bow pulpit an be directly 
under the pre-feeder/feeder so it hoists straight up without bending.


Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 11:09 AM Rick Brass via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:



And I fold my hank on sails with a different pattern than the
sails with luff tape. With a luff tape, each fold is parallel to
the foot of the sail and the head of the sail ends up
approximately in the middle of the sail before I start rolling it
up. But when I was learning to sail on Lake Michigan 5 decades ago
with hank on sails, I learned to fold the sail perpendicular to
the luff so all the hanks were exposed. That way you could put the
sail down on the deck, connect the tack, put all the hanks on the
Headstay, and then just unroll the sail and hoist. And that
minimizes the time you need to stand on the pointy end of the boat
for a sail change.




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Re: Stus-List sail folding machine questionnaire - now folding a headsail

2019-03-09 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
We all have our preferred way of doing things on our boats.  :)

As a racer and long time foredeck, I fold all my headsails with the luff
tape on top of itself.  If you do what I call a "cruiser fold" with the
folds parallel to the foot and the head ending up in the middle, you risk
ripping the luff tape when you launch the head sail.  The tape will have to
come from well aft of the pre-feeder or feeder and make a sharp bend from
horizontal to vertical before feeding up the track.  An overly enthusiastic
crewperson jumping the sail might cause the luff tape to rip off.

The way you do it is to take a "half" fold at the luff only.  This will
"cock" the sail slightly.  After the half fold, match the folds with the
luff laying on top of itself.  The leech will form a sawtooth as the leech
folder works his/her way towards the luff.  The head is then folded to lie
next to the tack.  When launching, the foredeck can easily find and hook up
the tack and head.

The luff tape should lay well forward in the bow pulpit an be directly
under the pre-feeder/feeder so it hoists straight up without bending.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 11:09 AM Rick Brass via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> And I fold my hank on sails with a different pattern than the sails with
> luff tape. With a luff tape, each fold is parallel to the foot of the sail
> and the head of the sail ends up approximately in the middle of the sail
> before I start rolling it up. But when I was learning to sail on Lake
> Michigan 5 decades ago with hank on sails, I learned to fold the sail
> perpendicular to the luff so all the hanks were exposed. That way you could
> put the sail down on the deck, connect the tack, put all the hanks on the
> Headstay, and then just unroll the sail and hoist. And that minimizes the
> time you need to stand on the pointy end of the boat for a sail change.
>
>
>
>
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