Re: Stus-List thermostat on 3QM30H > Exhaust Elbow Cleaning

2018-05-29 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
Just posted on other thread YES a real PITA to get to and replace on my 3HM as 
well $678 bucks later its done ! ouch!! ☹

John Conklin


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Subject: Re: Stus-List thermostat on 3QM30H > Exhaust Elbow Cleaning

Rick &/or anyone else,

Is there a recommended “service interval” for checking / cleaning the exhaust 
elbow on a fresh water cooled 3GM30F?  Mine was last checked 3-4 years ago and 
have probably had 100+ hours operation during that period.  It is a real PITA 
to access / remove / reinstall that elbow.

Thanks,
Brian

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Subject: Re: Stus-List thermostat on 3QM30H

Bill;

A “raw” water cooled engine passes water from outside the boat ( in your case 
lake water) through the engine for cooling. A “fresh” water cooled engine has 
antifreeze in the engine and a heat exchanger, and the lake water only passes 
through the heat exchanger to cool the antifreeze circulating inside the engine.

Josh’s note about making sure you have the correct thermostats installed in 
your engine is spot on.

A raw water engine uses a low temperature thermostat and has a low operating 
temperature. I would have guesses 120-125, but Josh found a spec of 108 for the 
thermostat. Your operating temperature when the engine is under load should be 
around 140-145. That helps to prevent deposits inside the engine that will 
block the cooling passages.

A fresh water engine runs at a higher temperature – diesels are more efficient 
at higher temperatures. You use a 165 degree thermostat and the engine can get 
to 180-190 under load.

One consequence of the lower temperature in a raw water engine is that there is 
increased production of unburned hydrocarbons and soot. Back in the day, when I 
was a Yanmar certified technician and teaching diesel mechanics, the consensus 
among the mechanics was that the exhaust elbow on the Yanmar 2 and 3 cylinder 
marine engines should have the carbon buildup cleaned out every 50 to 100 hours 
– at least yearly – as preventative maintenance.

On a raw water engine like yours, that would be a very good idea.

Rick Brass
Washington, NC
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Re: Stus-List thermostat on 3QM30H > Exhaust Elbow Cleaning

2018-05-28 Thread Nauset Beach via CnC-List
Rick &/or anyone else,

 

Is there a recommended “service interval” for checking / cleaning the exhaust 
elbow on a fresh water cooled 3GM30F?  Mine was last checked 3-4 years ago and 
have probably had 100+ hours operation during that period.  It is a real PITA 
to access / remove / reinstall that elbow.  

 

Thanks,

Brian

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List thermostat on 3QM30H

 

Bill;

 

A “raw” water cooled engine passes water from outside the boat ( in your case 
lake water) through the engine for cooling. A “fresh” water cooled engine has 
antifreeze in the engine and a heat exchanger, and the lake water only passes 
through the heat exchanger to cool the antifreeze circulating inside the engine.

 

Josh’s note about making sure you have the correct thermostats installed in 
your engine is spot on.

 

A raw water engine uses a low temperature thermostat and has a low operating 
temperature. I would have guesses 120-125, but Josh found a spec of 108 for the 
thermostat. Your operating temperature when the engine is under load should be 
around 140-145. That helps to prevent deposits inside the engine that will 
block the cooling passages.

 

A fresh water engine runs at a higher temperature – diesels are more efficient 
at higher temperatures. You use a 165 degree thermostat and the engine can get 
to 180-190 under load.

 

One consequence of the lower temperature in a raw water engine is that there is 
increased production of unburned hydrocarbons and soot. Back in the day, when I 
was a Yanmar certified technician and teaching diesel mechanics, the consensus 
among the mechanics was that the exhaust elbow on the Yanmar 2 and 3 cylinder 
marine engines should have the carbon buildup cleaned out every 50 to 100 hours 
– at least yearly – as preventative maintenance. 

 

On a raw water engine like yours, that would be a very good idea.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

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