[cobirds] Re: Archilochus sp. ID

[David Tønnessen]

Hey guys:
Caleb, the lack of any rufous in the rectrices points away from a 
Selasphorus ID.
Scott, while this is certainly a bird I would've liked to see better photos 
of because of what appears to be a relatively short, straight bill for an 
Archilochus, this feature doesn't seem out-of-range for a Black-chinned 
Hummingbird, having personally observed some variation in BCHU bill 
structure. The primary feathers from what I can see also look classically 
BCHU to my eye; broad and curved, like a paddle as I like to think. Some 
may point to how grayish the crown appears here which is typically a useful 
mark for separating adult Black-chinned and Ruby-throated Hummingbirds, but 
not so among young birds as juvenile RTHU will also sport extensive crown 
feathers lacking the green iridescence found in adults. Ultimately, I think 
it's a Black-chinned but would feel safest leaving it at the "Archilochus" 
genus level.

Keep birding while following COVID recommendations and maintaining other 
aspects of your health!
Best,

David Tonnessen
Colorado Springs

On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 8:19:01 PM UTC-6 caleb...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Scott!
> I'm not very good with hummers, but this looks like a Broad-tailed 
> youngster to me. Definitely curious to hear what CObirds has to say on this 
> one, though!
> *The birds are happy, and so am I*
>
> *~Caleb Alons, Larimer County*
> On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 7:46:19 PM UTC-6 Scott Severs wrote:
>
>> Any thoughts on the ID of this juvenile?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Scott Severs
>> Boulder County 
>>
>>
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[cobirds] Re: Archilochus sp. ID

[Caleb A]

Hi Scott!
I'm not very good with hummers, but this looks like a Broad-tailed 
youngster to me. Definitely curious to hear what CObirds has to say on this 
one, though!
*The birds are happy, and so am I*

*~Caleb Alons, Larimer County*
On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 7:46:19 PM UTC-6 Scott Severs wrote:

> Any thoughts on the ID of this juvenile?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Scott Severs
> Boulder County 
>
>
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[cobirds] Archilochus sp. ID

[Scott E. Severs]

Any thoughts on the ID of this juvenile?

Thank you,

Scott Severs
Boulder County



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[cobirds] Ridgway State Park, Ouray County Migrants

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Ridgway State Park has seen some good migrants so far this week. 
On Tuesday, two Western and a Semipalmated Sandpiper were present:
https://ebird.org/checklist/S72319994

Yesterday an adult Sabine's Gull showed up:
https://ebird.org/checklist/S72340909

So this morning I went to Ridgway State Park hoping for more new migrants. 
The adult Sabine's Gull was still present, along with a single Western 
Sandpiper.  I contacted Kent Nelson from Ouray, who needed the gull for his 
230+ county list.  When Kent arrived, we introduced ourselves, I pointed 
out the gull, and he quickly reciprocated by pointing out two Black Terns 
flying over the lake.  Thanks Kent. 

Here are a couple of eBird lists from this morning. 
https://ebird.org/checklist/S72374775
https://ebird.org/checklist/S72373989

Not a lot of birds, but some "good ones".  It's been a very good birding 
week for me.
Don Marsh
Ridgway, CO

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Re: [cobirds] So Long McCown's Longspur, Hello Thick-billed Longspur

[Larry Modesitt]

As they do for mountains, such as Grays Peak and Longs Peak. 

But the effort seems unnecessary, as  it appears the part before the ’s will 
disappear as well. 

Larry Modesitt
Arvada

> On Aug 13, 2020, at 3:03 PM, 'Hugh Kingery' via Colorado Birds 
> mailto:cobirds@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> 
> Another thought on these birds named for men (3 women so -honored, all by 
> their first names). I think of the Wilson's Warbler or the Swainson's Thrush 
> as wild creatures. The " 's " implies possession -- and I don't think Wilson 
> owned the warbler or Swainson the thrush. How about eliminating all the " 's 
> " from those names?
> 
> Hugh Kingery
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[cobirds] So Long McCown's Longspur, Hello Thick-billed Longspur

['Hugh Kingery' via Colorado Birds]

     Another thought on these birds named for men (3 women so -honored, all by 
their first names). I think of the Wilson's Warbler or the Swainson's Thrush as 
wild creatures. The " 's " implies possession -- and I don't think Wilson owned 
the warbler or Swainson the thrush. How about eliminating all the " 's " from 
those names?
 
Hugh Kingery

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[cobirds] Current ID problem: Vesper Sparrow vs. juvenile Brewer's Sparrow

[coloradodipper via Colorado Birds]

Hi all:
For other reasons, I recently ran through a number of Vesper Sparrow photos in 
the eBird/Macaulay Library photo archive. Unfortunately, I ran across a sizable 
number of photos entered in the Vesper Sparrow entry that are actually of 
juvenile Brewer's Sparrows. In the field, take note of size and structure. 
Vesper Sparrow is a fairly big, bruising beast of a sparrow with a fairly wide 
medium-length tail and, unless very worn, strongly patterned scapulars. 
Brewer's Sparrow is a tiny waif of a sparrow with, for its size, an 
outlandishly long (and narrow) tail and rather plain scapulars.
This is the season in which juvenile Spizella sparrows cause angst and 
consternation among many birders, as, unlike their parents, they are 
extensively streaked below (less so, for Field Sparrow). If you've recently 
submitted photos in the Vesper Sparrow entry to eBird, you might do well to 
revisit those photos.
Enjoy and good birding AND STAY SAFE (masks save lives).
Tony
Tony Leukeringcurrently Fairborn, OH

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[cobirds] New yard bird

[Claire]

A new yard bird for me today - a Northern Mockingbird!  He was going for 
insects on the ground in my rather weed-filled backyard.  Being at home so 
much, I have seen several new birds in my southwest Denver yard this year.

Claire Montour, Denver

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[cobirds] Mockingbird, Horseshoe Park, Aurora

[James CONNELL]

Was happy to see a mockingbird along the bikepath on the west side of Horseshoe 
Park this morning.

It went from the top of my fence to the lawn to a neighbor's large tree and 
then I lost it.

Second one in my area in 15 years.

Jim Connell

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[cobirds] Hummingbird Quadfecta, Weld

[Lauren Hyde]

At my home in Keenesburg on WCR 398 I currently have 4 species of hummers: 
broad-tailed, black-chinned, rufous and calliope. They are hanging out in 
the alfalfa field next to me and perching in the dead trees on the property 
line. 

Lauren Hyde

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[cobirds] Jackson County shorebirds

[Joe Kipper]

Wonderful photos Tom!!
Joe Kipper,
Fort Collins

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[cobirds] Happy choice of campsite. Chaffee County

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I was looking for a campsite in late afternoon along the Castle Rock Gulch 
road,
County Road 188, when I saw a place where an old earthen dam had created a 
very 
small lake--maybe 3 olympic pools worth.  I was very wary of the spot, 
knowing
that it might be plagued by swarms of mosquitos at dusk, even though 6 or 8 
Violet-greens were swooping over the water.  Instead of unloading, I took a 
walk along the
road for a while, then decided to risk it.  Well, that oasis in a otherwise 
arid (and
currently drought-stricken?) area produced 20 species that evening and 
early the
next morning, all seen up-close-and personal in the shrubs and small pines. 
 They
were all the usual suspects for 9000', but still.  Highlights were the 6 PM 
visit of a
Sharp-shinned or maybe Cooper's grabbing supper, the 7 PM arrival of a 
small group
of Common Nighthawks, the croaking of Ravens from the tops of the towering 
PreCambrian "castles" on the far side of the (dry) creek, and the continual 
show put on
by the swallows.  Perhaps somewhat unusual was the group of Lark Sparrows.  
All this and --no mosquitos!!

David Gulbenkian Jeffco

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[cobirds] Re: So Long McCown's Longspur, Hello Thick-billed Longspur

[Adam Johnson]

I'd vote for Golden Swamp Warbler any day. 

Adam Johnson
Fort Collins

On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 8:16:19 AM UTC-6 The "Nunn Guy" wrote:

> Hi all
>
> Funny seeing this post because in our iNaturalist project it keeps coming 
> back with "Thick-billed Longspur (McCown's Longspur)" when I post bird 
> photos and I sat there wondering "why do they have this?" ... now I know. 
> Thanks Richard.
>
> Thanks, Gary Lefko, Nunn
> http://www.friendsofthepawneegrassland.org
>
> https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/birds-and-more-of-the-pawnee-national-grassland
>
>  
> On Wednesday, August 12, 2020 at 4:57:46 PM UTC-6, Richard Trinkner wrote:
>>
>> Forgive me if this has already been covered on Cobirds.  I don't recall 
>> seeing it's discussion.
>>
>> The AOU decided last Friday to rename the 
>> bird-fomerly-known-as-McCown's-Longspur to the Thick-billed Longspur.  I 
>> personally had not realized how controversial the bird's former namesake 
>> was.
>>
>>
>> https://www.birdwatchingdaily.com/news/science/mccowns-longspur-renamed-thick-billed-longspur/
>>
>> I would imagine we'll be seeing the change in eBird soon.
>>
>> Richard Trinkner
>> Boulder
>>
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Re: [cobirds] Barr Lake "below dam" is no longer

[Joe Roller]

Birders will be making fewer trips below the Barr Lake Dam, obviously.
BUT Checklists collected at that eBird hotspot will be useful in
documenting changes in
the avifauna, before and after the habitat destruction. So don't give up on
it; get down there when you can!

Joe Roller, Denver

On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 10:12 PM Adam Vesely  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Some of you that have recently been to the north side of Barr Lake (Adams
> Co.) may have noticed the obliteration of the tree-lined stream area below
> the Barr Lake dam. Large construction vehicles continued their warpath
> today, removing more trees along the stream that have provided wonderful,
> shady habitat for birds over the years. I would expect this area to be
> mostly devoid of trees and shrubs in the coming days. I spoke to a ranger
> yesterday, and she said that although some trees will be saved per input
> from Barr Lake rangers, it is not Barr Lake property and those pesky trees
> were simply sucking up too much irrigation water. Ironically, this area is
> only about 1/4 mile east of the Bird Conservancy of the Rockies house. Take
> that, birds.
>
> Adam Vesely
> Thornton, CO
>
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[cobirds] Re: So Long McCown's Longspur, Hello Thick-billed Longspur

[tedfl...@gmail.com]

Hey, Richard et al. Two quick responses:

1. Speaking of name changes, the nomenclatorial authority in his matter 
hasn't been the "AOU" for some time now. It's the "AOS," the American 
Ornithological Society. It seems nobody knew what "AOU" stood for, 
especially the "O" part of the moniker. ;-)

2. Don't hold your breath on an imminent eBird change. Taxonomic and 
nomenclatorial changes are happening essentially continuously around the 
world, and eBird is of course a global database. So eBird typically holds 
off in increments of at least one year in making a big batch of checklist 
changes. In the same way that we had to wait around for, say, 
Yellow-breasted Chat to move to the "correct" spot on the checklist, we may 
not be seeing "McCown's Longspur" for quite some time on our eBird 
checklists. This is not a diss on eBird, by the way; it would be totally 
impracticable for eBird to keep up with the constant flux of taxonomic and 
nomenclatorial statuses worldwide.

Ted Floyd
Lafayette, Boulder County

P. s. Recent bird sightings: a *loggerhead shrike* and 2 *sage thrashers* 
yesterday afternoon, Wed., Aug. 12, at the Legion Park overlook, Valmont 
Reservoir complex, Boulder County. The day before, Tues., Aug. 11, Little 
Gaynor Lake, Boulder County, had *American avocet, killdeer, Baird 
sandpiper, least sandpiper,* western/semipalmated sandpiper, *Wilson 
phalarope, spotted sandpiper, greater yellowlegs,* and *lesser yellowlegs.* 

On Wednesday, August 12, 2020 at 4:57:46 PM UTC-6 richardi... wrote:

> Forgive me if this has already been covered on Cobirds.  I don't recall 
> seeing it's discussion.
>
> The AOU decided last Friday to rename the 
> bird-fomerly-known-as-McCown's-Longspur to the Thick-billed Longspur.  I 
> personally had not realized how controversial the bird's former namesake 
> was.
>
>
> https://www.birdwatchingdaily.com/news/science/mccowns-longspur-renamed-thick-billed-longspur/
>
> I would imagine we'll be seeing the change in eBird soon.
>
> Richard Trinkner
> Boulder
>

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[cobirds] Re: So Long McCown's Longspur, Hello Thick-billed Longspur

['The "Nunn Guy"' via Colorado Birds]

Hi all

Funny seeing this post because in our iNaturalist project it keeps coming 
back with "Thick-billed Longspur (McCown's Longspur)" when I post bird 
photos and I sat there wondering "why do they have this?" ... now I know. 
Thanks Richard.

Thanks, Gary Lefko, Nunn
http://www.friendsofthepawneegrassland.org
https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/birds-and-more-of-the-pawnee-national-grassland

 
On Wednesday, August 12, 2020 at 4:57:46 PM UTC-6, Richard Trinkner wrote:
>
> Forgive me if this has already been covered on Cobirds.  I don't recall 
> seeing it's discussion.
>
> The AOU decided last Friday to rename the 
> bird-fomerly-known-as-McCown's-Longspur to the Thick-billed Longspur.  I 
> personally had not realized how controversial the bird's former namesake 
> was.
>
>
> https://www.birdwatchingdaily.com/news/science/mccowns-longspur-renamed-thick-billed-longspur/
>
> I would imagine we'll be seeing the change in eBird soon.
>
> Richard Trinkner
> Boulder
>

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Re: [cobirds] Fwd: Chico decision

[Vara Vissa]

Congratulations! 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 12, 2020, at 1:48 PM, SeEttaM  wrote:
> 
> Also note that Linda Hodges from Auken Audubon and a person whose name i did 
> not get also spoke.
> 
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: SeEttaM 
> Date: Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 1:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Chico decision this Weds
> To: Peg Rooney 
> Cc: Harry Rurup , Lura Zimmerman , 
> Richard/Mary Tucey , Leon Bright , 
> Mark Yaeger , Brandon Percival , 
> Margie Joy 
> 
> 
> I listened to and spoke at the State Land Board meeting just a bit ago in 
> regards to Chico Basin plans. I spoke as an individual citizen as Peg had 
> already sent in AVAS comments and from the perspective as the person who 
> worked to put Chico Basin into Stewardship Trust status originally  for AVAS.
> 
> The good news is the State Land Board membership voted unanimously to retain 
> the entirety of Chico Basin Ranch (not sell part of it) and to lease it as 
> one entity (not dividing into 3 sections and leasing separately) and to 
> extend this to 2034.  This is a big win for conservation of the natural 
> values and for those who enjoy birding at the Ranch. 
> 
> Let me note that the Commissioners took note of the significant interest in 
> the Ranch as indicated by the many comments submitted.  So yes, comments are 
> helpful.
> 
> SeEttaMoss 
> 
>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020, 11:33 AM Peg Rooney  wrote:
>> FYI
>> 
>> I wrote comments on behalf of Audubon Colorado Council  asking to keep Chico 
>> Basin Ranch intact.
>> 
>> 
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: linda hodges 
>> Date: Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 10:53 AM
>> Subject: Chico decision this Weds
>> To: Linda Hodges 
>> 
>> 
>> All,
>> You may have seen my cobirds letter - if not, the State Land Board will be 
>> voting on the future of Chico THIS WEDS, AUGUST 12th. This came as a 
>> surprise to Duke Phillips, the lessee, as well.
>> 
>> If possible, please pass info on to your members, and ask that they write to 
>> the State Land Board by NOON THIS TUESDAY, AUGUST 11th. You may comment via 
>> their website: 
>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdHLoANsTkJyomSRsPJm5aNH5EA-2sA8h7RlM8Df_ESURzjSQ/viewform
>> 
>> The SLB staff is expected to recommend keeping Chico intact, but it sounds 
>> as though they'd like to see it divided into 3 parcels.
>> 
>> In addition, please consider attending the virtual meeting Wednesday August 
>> 12, 8:00 am - 2:30 pm. You may also make real-time comments during the 
>> meeting using the Q feature in Zoom. The Board Packet includes details 
>> about the proposal and can be found here: 
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pgsT9COM-SRV8AaMv_i7hcqx8CXOE9X0/view
>> To attend the meeting virtually, register using the Zoom link: 
>> https://zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_kMqrPX3RRneG-C_40xN-_g
>> 
>>  A copy of Aiken Audubon’s letter to the SLB can be found on our website 
>> here. 
>> 
>> Many thanks for all that you've done to protect this migratory haven.
>> 
>> Linda
>> 
>> Linda Hodges
>> Conservation Chair
>> Aiken Audubon Society
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[cobirds] Poorwills, Douglas county

['DEBORAH CARSTENSEN' via Colorado Birds]

A friend of mine and I went to watch the Perseid meteor shower at Daniels Park 
early in the morning on Thursday. Like 1 am early. There were at least 3 
poorwills calling. So nice. We were at a parking area at: 
11700 Grig’s rd, Highlands Ranch
   Deb Carstensen, Arapahoe county. 

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[cobirds] Jackson County shorebirds

[Tom Wilberding]

Hello birders,

Here are some photos of elusive Colorado shorebirds Barb and I saw this 
week in Jackson Country, and also a bit north at Hutton Lake NWR in 
Wyoming, about 30 miles north of the Colorado boarder. We did not see a lot 
of shorebirds; I think we were early, but I was pleased to get a few photos.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/twilberding/albums/72157715469076278

*Hutton Lake NWR* has five lakes. Only Lake George and Hutton Lake had 
water on Monday. Not a lot of shorebirds, but ample shore-beach-mudflats on 
Lake George and Hutton Lake. . Close views of Willets, Avocets, Wilson 
Phalaropes, and a couple of distant Whimbrels. Lots of Sage Thrashers, too. 
BTW, as a CoBirder cautioned recently, avoid “Flag Road.” It is private and 
dead end, despite internet navigation.

*Cowdrey Like SWA*: beautiful spot, full of water, steep banks, and on 
Monday no mud flats or shorebirds that we could see.

*Pole Mountain Lake*: good potential, many distant waterfowl and American 
White Pelicans, but we saw only one shorebird, a Killdeer. This is a 
private reservoir visible only from CR 26A

*Lake John SWA*: beautiful, vast reservoir. There were a few shorebirds, 
and a fox eyeing them, at a small alkaline pond on the left as we drove in. 
Close views of Wilson Phalaropes and Baird’s Sandpipers today.

*Arapaho NWR Automobile Wildlife Tour*: today a distant Black-necked Stilt, 
Wilson Phalaropes and the usual beautiful scenery and waterfowl.

We camped Monday and Tuesday night near Buffalo Pass at Teal Lake 
campground, and spent Tuesday hiking the Continental Divide Trail—saw some 
mountain birds, mostly juveniles, and spectacular summer wildflowers. At 
times pretty smokey in western North Park due to the Pine Gulch and Grizzly 
Creek fires in western Colorado. Makes for red sunsets, red moon, red 
sunrises, and camping gear that now smells like smoked ham.

Good birding,
Tom Wilberding
Littleton, Co

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