[cobirds] Variedous (Weld)

2020-11-30 Thread DAVID A LEATHERMAN
I was informed by Mr. Kaempfer the finder of the Varied Thrush in Nunn was John 
Vanderpoel.  Thank you, John.

I should also mention that after a 29-day stay, the beginning of ice formation 
has caused the White-winged Scoter near the Environmental Learning Center in 
Fort Collins to leave.  It was reported on the 29th, not present this morning.  
Jay Breidt found that bird on November 1 and it was, indeed, a fun bird to 
observe.  It will be the subject of "The Hungry Bird" in an upcoming issue of 
"Colorado Birds" if anyone is interested.

Dave Leatherman
Fort Collins

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[cobirds] Weld County Weekend

2020-11-30 Thread 'The Nunn Guy' via Colorado Birds

Hi all

Highlights:

   - Bonaparte's Gull - 5 [Windsor Lake]
   - Lesser Black-backed Gull - 2 [Windsor Lake]
   - Downy Woodpecker - 2 [Yard]
   - Brown Creeper - 1 {Windsor Lake] Audio Recording, too (Olympus LS-10, 
   Sennheiser4 MKE600, Bose Noise Cancelling Headphones), at 
   https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/65901423 (barely hear so turn up 
   volume)
   - Northern Shrike - 1 [Nunn]
   
Lots of geese, ducks and gulls around.

Keep missing Nunn's Varied Thrush but I'll get it sooner or later ;-)

Some photos at link below.

Thanks Gary Lefko, Nunn
http://www.friendsofthepawneegrassland.org/
https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/birds-and-more-of-the-pawnee-national-grassland

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[cobirds] Re: Lewis's woodpeckers Pueblo County

2020-11-30 Thread kickback
Great picture!

On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 11:22:14 AM UTC-7 León wrote:

> COBirders--  There is a small, year-round colony of Lewis’s woodpeckers in 
> Rye, which is in the southern foothills of the Wet Mtns. Here is an image 
> of one I took Saturday morning.
>
> Leon Bright, Pueblo
>
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[cobirds] Re: Western vs Clark's Grebe

2020-11-30 Thread Caleb A
Hi Peter!

I had just written up a long message with pictures, but apparently the 
google forum didn't like the copy-paste in photos and I lost the draft. 
I'll give this another try without the photos. For the sake of efficiency, 
I'll be using WEGR to be Western Grebe and CLGR to be Clark's Grebe.

You would be correct that there is variation and therefore ambiguity when 
it comes to the black and white pattern on the face. From my limited 
experience, WEGR tends to be the species that has the most common variation 
that brings facial IDs into the gray-zone, and it seems like most CLGR are 
pretty straightforward. That being said, looking at a grebe from half a 
mile away introduces issues, because we can't see every single bird with 
close-up detail as we would like. The other primary mark that is probably 
the most useful one to use year-round is the color pattern of the shoulder, 
neck, and flanks.

On WEGR, the black extends from the back of the neck to more of the base of 
the neck, and that dark plumage (I say dark, because depending on the 
age/molt/a bajillion random parameters, it can be black, or some shade of 
gray) then goes down the shoulder close to the water. I've only been 
birding for a year and a half, so take this with a grain of salt, but I've 
never seen a WEGR in the field that did *not* have dark plumage extend down 
to the shoulder that connected to the water. The dark plumage extends down 
the flanks, so the bird just has a darker appearance. Where the body of the 
bird meets the water on WEGR is usually dark plumage. On CLGR, there is 
often much more white on the neck, and the black is restricted to the back 
of the neck. The white then comes off the neck and down the shoulder, which 
gives the entire front of the bird a much brighter, cleaner GISS. On adult 
birds, that white/light gray extends down the flanks that are in contact 
with the water. In most cases, you don't even *need* to see the head in 
order to make an ID: dark shoulder always means WEGR, no need to wonder. If 
where the body comes in contact with the water is pretty clearly white, 
then that is most likely CLGR.

For example, the inaturalist photo you linked has an ambiguous facial 
pattern, but when you look at the shoulder, it's pretty clear that it's a 
WEGR. This particular type of ID mark is similar to Common Goldeneye versus 
Barrow's Goldeneye, in which you know it's Common if the shoulder is white, 
and it's Barrow's if that black "spur" extends down the shoulder.

All this being said, I should mention that WEGR x CLGR hybrids do occur 
sometimes. They probably aren't super common, but I suppose it's never a 
bad idea to consider this possibility in those situations when you see a 
bird where all the marks are deep in the realm of ambiguity. I didn't talk 
much about the bill, because although I'd imagine that's helpful on adult 
birds in breeding plumage, I'm not sure how *reliable *of a mark that is. 
Sure, CLGR tend to have brighter and cleaner yellow bills, and WEGR have 
more dulled colored bills, but this is an even more tricky mark to make 
entire IDs off of. Just to name a few parameters that will be in constant 
flux that can change the way a bill looks include lighting, feeding, and 
age.

Hope this was helpful in some way :) I'd be interested to hear what more 
experienced birders do to identify the large grebes.

*The birds are happy, and so am I*
*~Caleb Alons, Larimer County*

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[cobirds] Lewis's woodpeckers Pueblo County

2020-11-30 Thread Leon Bright
COBirders--  There is a small, year-round colony of Lewis's woodpeckers in
Rye, which is in the southern foothills of the Wet Mtns. Here is an image of
one I took Saturday morning.

Leon Bright, Pueblo

 



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[cobirds] RMNP Christmas count

2020-11-30 Thread Scott

Hi Everyone...

The RMNP Christmas count will be Sunday January 3rd.

Scott Rashid

Estes Park


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[cobirds] Western vs Clark's Grebe

2020-11-30 Thread Peter Ruprecht
Hi COBirds,

I'm looking for some help with separating Western and Clark's Grebes in
winter.  Certainly Western is our more expected species at this time of
year, but now and then I see an Aechmophorus that seems a bit Clarkish.

I know that the pattern of black and white on the face is not definitive
for ID in winter.  Are there other clues that are better to look for, like
bill color?

For example, here's one I saw recently that had a yellower bill than the
other similar birds nearby.  But is it yellow/orange enough?
https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/277143231

Also see https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/65853723 for another
confusing example.

Is the width of the black stripe on the back of the neck a better feature?
Or the flank color?  Should I swim out and try to get a DNA sample?

Any advice gratefully accepted!

Peter Ruprecht
Superior

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