Re: [cobirds] Petition to AOS Leadership on the Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

[Evan Carlson]

"I have seen some estimates in the millions." What estimates? This sounds
like you saw posts from random people on social media.

All that money would need to be spent updating guides and brochures anyway
if only some bird names are changed, as you recommend in the petition. And
a few million dollars for the federal government to spend over a period of
several years is tiny, not "enormous," as you claim. It's a few pennies
from each of us each year, which I, for one, am more than willing to spend
to get better names for our birds. There's a reason that concern hasn't
been discussed previously on COBirds.

For full disclosure, so you know where I'm coming from, I do not care about
whether bird names are changed at all. I don't think any of it will matter
either way within a few years. The time and energy you spend complaining
and trying to fight a decision that's already been made could be better
spent trying to come up with great new names for birds and influence those
decisions.

Evan Carlson
Pueblo

On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 3:18 PM Rachel Kolokoff Hopper 
wrote:

> COBirders,
>
> I have created an online petition in rebuttal to the AOS leadership
> momentous decision to change all eponymous bird names & no matter your
> position on this issue, I hope that you will take a minute to read it and
> if so inclined to also sign it.
>
> A few notes before signing.
>
> After you sign change.org takes you to a screen asking for a donation.
> Change.org <http://change.org/> is free and any donations received are
> not for this cause. I am not fundraising.
>
> Instead, click on “No, I’ll Share Instead” which will take you to a page
> that gives you multiple ways to share the petition but most importantly
> also provides a comment box on the right side of the page. If you want to
> include a membership or organizational affiliation this is the place to put
> that information along with any other comments you may want to share.
>
> The link to the petition is here: https://chng.it/VHyjZp5snr
> <https://chng.it/VHyjZp5snr>
>
> One concern not included in the petition and not previously discussed on
> COBirds, but worth mentioning here, are the financial repercussions which
> are enormous. I have seen some estimates in the millions starting at the
> Federal level and ending with you. Every bird checklist, brochure, field
> guide, interpretive sign, database (including ebird) & website (to name a
> few) would have to be updated or redone. This is a lot of time & money. The
> argument can be made that this huge financial commitment would be better
> spent on conserving birds & their habitats.
>
> R.
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Re: [cobirds] Posting

[Evan Carlson]

Thank you for your service o7

On Mon, May 29, 2023, 9:45 AM Paula Hansley  wrote:

> I’ve posted my last bird sighting/hearing on CObirds.
>
> The world, unfortunately, has changed.
>
> Too many people now are just interested in getting the best picture of a
> bird without regard for the bird’s well being.
>
> Paula Hansley
> Louisville
>
> P.S.  I will also hide my ebird lists.
>
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Re: [cobirds] Re: Lake Henry sandpiper

[Evan Carlson]

Compare the Lake Henry bird to these photos of
Rock Sandpiper: https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/312705731
and Purple Sandpiper: https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/433376671

In my opinion, its wing stripe looks better for Purple. But I have
basically no experience with either species. Like most of us, I'm waiting
for the experts to look at the photos.

Evan Carlson
Pueblo

On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 2:39 PM Joey Kellner  wrote:

> As for bill color, I defer to someone familiar with young Rock Sandpipers
> to determine if the extent and coloration is in the norm for that species
> or if this would indicate a Purple Sandpiper instead.
>
> Joey.
>
> Joey Kellner
> Littleton, Colorado
>
> On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 2:17:47 PM UTC-6 Joey Kellner wrote:
>
>> COBIRDERS,
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>> I’ve attached a number of photos showing different views/angles of the
>> PURPLE/ROCK SANDPIPER.  The very pale underwings and thick, white
>> upperwing seem consistent with Rock Sandpiper (however I do not know
>> about immature plumages of Purple Sandpiper).  The bill and leg color
>> and the overall face pattern look better for Purple Sandpiper.
>>
>>
>>
>> Purple Sandpiper is more likely distribution-wise, but “birds have wings”.
>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps someone can forward the below link to Paul Lehmann since he has
>> extensive experience with Rock Sandpipers in juv. and imm. Plumages.
>>
>>
>>
>> Below is the link…you all can view and consult various references.
>>
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>> https://ebird.org/checklist/S120137387
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>> Joey Kellner
>>
>> Littleton, Colorado
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Re: [cobirds] Juv Black-legged Kittiwake Pueblo

[Evan Carlson]

Kittiwake is still present this morning, 11/26, swimming near the sailboard
area.

Evan Carlson, Pueblo

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020, 1:03 PM Brandon  wrote:

> There is a juvenile Black-legged Kittiwake off Sailboard launching area at
> Pueblo Reservoir, Pueblo County, currently.
>
> Brandon Percival
> Pueblo West, CO
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