Re: [cobirds] Courtesy to a landowner, Stewart's Pond, WELD COUNTY

[Susan Rosine]

https://ebird.org/hotspot/L2300607

Susan Rosine
Brighton

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:59 AM Jeff Kehoe  wrote:

> Where is Stewart's Pond?
>
> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 3:53:09 AM UTC-6 u5b2...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I go there a lot. Those signs are to keep people out of the actual fenced
>> in areas only. You can still drive through to the pond.
>> Susan Rosine
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 9:22 PM Todd Deininger 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Diane, have you been there recently. Two weeks ago there were brand new
>>> 'posted' signs at the entrance to the corral.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 4:34 PM Diane Roberts 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 He is a really great guy at Stewart’s Pond, who leases the property. I
 have spoken to him a few times in a friendly conversation. I know others
 have as well. He allows birders to go into the cattle area, warning mother
 cows are protective of the calves.

 Diane Roberts
 Highlands Ranch, CO

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 20, 2021, at 4:21 PM, 'The Nunn Guy' via Colorado Birds <
 cob...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 
 Hi all

 I'd like to ask about access to Stewart's Pond. I've heard from and
 seen multiple occasions folks and cars beyond the corral area to view
 Stewart's Pond. Does anyone have the definitive answer that the landowner
 is okay with birders on their property? Each time I go near I'm hoping to
 see someone working there to ask and confirm for myself we have permission.

 Thanks, Gary Lefko, Nunn
 http://www.friendsofthepawneegrassland.org/

 https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/birds-and-more-of-the-pawnee-national-grassland

 On Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 10:05:12 AM UTC-6 lrh...@gmail.com wrote:

> Frankly, I don’t blame him. Years ago, when my house was the only one
> on my road, both birders and hunters would drive down my long driveway
> looking for birds or game. It’s perhaps ironic, but the hunters were the
> ones who would come to the door asking for permission to be on my land.
> Birders did not. They drove on my horse pasture, opened gates they had no
> business opening, and smashed a pipe that delivered water from my well to
> the horses’ water tank. Please be respectful of other people and their
> property.
>
> Lauren Hyde
> Keenesburg
> Weld County
>
> On Apr 20, 2021, at 9:00 AM, DAVID A LEATHERMAN 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> All Birders,
> The other day I was picking around in the grass at roadside trying to
> figure out what 3 Long-billed Curlews might be eating when a pickup came
> down a long drive across the way and stopped next to me.  The man, Scott,
> was highly agitated at me and all birders.  He initially blamed us for a
> long litany of offenses including getting him and his PTSD flared up,
> causing his dogs to bark, littering that occurs every week of the year
> especially during Cheyenne Frontier Days, setting fires, cutting his
> fences, hunting on his land, trespassing on the road that may or may not 
> be
> private but that he considers private and more.  Suffice it to say this
> man, who I think is probably a pretty nice guy under his Marine Corps hat,
> is armed and not to be messed with.  The location is a little spur road
> between CR5 and I-25 that goes north from Larimer CR92.  This road goes
> about a mile and ends at a closed gate which leads to the City of Fort
> Collins solid waste treatment plant for use on the Meadow Springs Ranch.
> Scott lives up on the hill to the east of this road in the only house at
> the end of a long driveway.  After a long chat during which he calmed down
> considerably, he said it was OK for me to look at the curlews but that he
> would just like to know who is coming up his road and when.  He gave me 
> his
> phone that could be used for text messaging (970/568-6434
> <(970)%20568-6434>).  I know a few Larimer folks who go up that road
> all the way to the gate looking north for longspurs, etc. on a regular
> basis.  The ill-will this might cause is not worth a tick mark on a
> checklist.  Either call Scott in advance or go elsewhere.  Be advised.
>
> Dave Leatherman
> Fort Collins
>
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Re: [cobirds] Courtesy to a landowner, Stewart's Pond, WELD COUNTY

[Jeff Kehoe]

Where is Stewart's Pond?

On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 3:53:09 AM UTC-6 u5b2...@gmail.com wrote:

> I go there a lot. Those signs are to keep people out of the actual fenced 
> in areas only. You can still drive through to the pond.
> Susan Rosine
>
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 9:22 PM Todd Deininger  wrote:
>
>> Diane, have you been there recently. Two weeks ago there were brand new 
>> 'posted' signs at the entrance to the corral.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 4:34 PM Diane Roberts  wrote:
>>
>>> He is a really great guy at Stewart’s Pond, who leases the property. I 
>>> have spoken to him a few times in a friendly conversation. I know others 
>>> have as well. He allows birders to go into the cattle area, warning mother 
>>> cows are protective of the calves. 
>>>
>>> Diane Roberts
>>> Highlands Ranch, CO 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 20, 2021, at 4:21 PM, 'The Nunn Guy' via Colorado Birds <
>>> cob...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I'd like to ask about access to Stewart's Pond. I've heard from and seen 
>>> multiple occasions folks and cars beyond the corral area to view Stewart's 
>>> Pond. Does anyone have the definitive answer that the landowner is okay 
>>> with birders on their property? Each time I go near I'm hoping to see 
>>> someone working there to ask and confirm for myself we have permission.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Gary Lefko, Nunn
>>> http://www.friendsofthepawneegrassland.org/
>>>
>>> https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/birds-and-more-of-the-pawnee-national-grassland
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 10:05:12 AM UTC-6 lrh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Frankly, I don’t blame him. Years ago, when my house was the only one 
 on my road, both birders and hunters would drive down my long driveway 
 looking for birds or game. It’s perhaps ironic, but the hunters were the 
 ones who would come to the door asking for permission to be on my land. 
 Birders did not. They drove on my horse pasture, opened gates they had no 
 business opening, and smashed a pipe that delivered water from my well to 
 the horses’ water tank. Please be respectful of other people and their 
 property. 

 Lauren Hyde
 Keenesburg
 Weld County

 On Apr 20, 2021, at 9:00 AM, DAVID A LEATHERMAN  
 wrote:

  

 All Birders,
 The other day I was picking around in the grass at roadside trying to 
 figure out what 3 Long-billed Curlews might be eating when a pickup came 
 down a long drive across the way and stopped next to me.  The man, Scott, 
 was highly agitated at me and all birders.  He initially blamed us for a 
 long litany of offenses including getting him and his PTSD flared up, 
 causing his dogs to bark, littering that occurs every week of the year 
 especially during Cheyenne Frontier Days, setting fires, cutting his 
 fences, hunting on his land, trespassing on the road that may or may not 
 be 
 private but that he considers private and more.  Suffice it to say this 
 man, who I think is probably a pretty nice guy under his Marine Corps hat, 
 is armed and not to be messed with.  The location is a little spur road 
 between CR5 and I-25 that goes north from Larimer CR92.  This road goes 
 about a mile and ends at a closed gate which leads to the City of Fort 
 Collins solid waste treatment plant for use on the Meadow Springs Ranch.  
 Scott lives up on the hill to the east of this road in the only house at 
 the end of a long driveway.  After a long chat during which he calmed down 
 considerably, he said it was OK for me to look at the curlews but that he 
 would just like to know who is coming up his road and when.  He gave me 
 his 
 phone that could be used for text messaging (970/568-6434 
 <(970)%20568-6434>).  I know a few Larimer folks who go up that road 
 all the way to the gate looking north for longspurs, etc. on a regular 
 basis.  The ill-will this might cause is not worth a tick mark on a 
 checklist.  Either call Scott in advance or go elsewhere.  Be advised.

 Dave Leatherman
 Fort Collins

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Re: [cobirds] Courtesy to a landowner, Stewart's Pond, WELD COUNTY

[Susan Rosine]

I go there a lot. Those signs are to keep people out of the actual fenced
in areas only. You can still drive through to the pond.
Susan Rosine

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 9:22 PM Todd Deininger 
wrote:

> Diane, have you been there recently. Two weeks ago there were brand new
> 'posted' signs at the entrance to the corral.
>
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 4:34 PM Diane Roberts 
> wrote:
>
>> He is a really great guy at Stewart’s Pond, who leases the property. I
>> have spoken to him a few times in a friendly conversation. I know others
>> have as well. He allows birders to go into the cattle area, warning mother
>> cows are protective of the calves.
>>
>> Diane Roberts
>> Highlands Ranch, CO
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2021, at 4:21 PM, 'The Nunn Guy' via Colorado Birds <
>> cobirds@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hi all
>>
>> I'd like to ask about access to Stewart's Pond. I've heard from and seen
>> multiple occasions folks and cars beyond the corral area to view Stewart's
>> Pond. Does anyone have the definitive answer that the landowner is okay
>> with birders on their property? Each time I go near I'm hoping to see
>> someone working there to ask and confirm for myself we have permission.
>>
>> Thanks, Gary Lefko, Nunn
>> http://www.friendsofthepawneegrassland.org/
>>
>> https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/birds-and-more-of-the-pawnee-national-grassland
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 10:05:12 AM UTC-6 lrh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Frankly, I don’t blame him. Years ago, when my house was the only one on
>>> my road, both birders and hunters would drive down my long driveway looking
>>> for birds or game. It’s perhaps ironic, but the hunters were the ones who
>>> would come to the door asking for permission to be on my land. Birders did
>>> not. They drove on my horse pasture, opened gates they had no business
>>> opening, and smashed a pipe that delivered water from my well to the
>>> horses’ water tank. Please be respectful of other people and their
>>> property.
>>>
>>> Lauren Hyde
>>> Keenesburg
>>> Weld County
>>>
>>> On Apr 20, 2021, at 9:00 AM, DAVID A LEATHERMAN 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> All Birders,
>>> The other day I was picking around in the grass at roadside trying to
>>> figure out what 3 Long-billed Curlews might be eating when a pickup came
>>> down a long drive across the way and stopped next to me.  The man, Scott,
>>> was highly agitated at me and all birders.  He initially blamed us for a
>>> long litany of offenses including getting him and his PTSD flared up,
>>> causing his dogs to bark, littering that occurs every week of the year
>>> especially during Cheyenne Frontier Days, setting fires, cutting his
>>> fences, hunting on his land, trespassing on the road that may or may not be
>>> private but that he considers private and more.  Suffice it to say this
>>> man, who I think is probably a pretty nice guy under his Marine Corps hat,
>>> is armed and not to be messed with.  The location is a little spur road
>>> between CR5 and I-25 that goes north from Larimer CR92.  This road goes
>>> about a mile and ends at a closed gate which leads to the City of Fort
>>> Collins solid waste treatment plant for use on the Meadow Springs Ranch.
>>> Scott lives up on the hill to the east of this road in the only house at
>>> the end of a long driveway.  After a long chat during which he calmed down
>>> considerably, he said it was OK for me to look at the curlews but that he
>>> would just like to know who is coming up his road and when.  He gave me his
>>> phone that could be used for text messaging (970/568-6434
>>> <(970)%20568-6434>).  I know a few Larimer folks who go up that road
>>> all the way to the gate looking north for longspurs, etc. on a regular
>>> basis.  The ill-will this might cause is not worth a tick mark on a
>>> checklist.  Either call Scott in advance or go elsewhere.  Be advised.
>>>
>>> Dave Leatherman
>>> Fort Collins
>>>
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Re: [cobirds] Courtesy to a landowner, Stewart's Pond

[Todd Deininger]

Diane, have you been there recently. Two weeks ago there were brand new
'posted' signs at the entrance to the corral.

On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 4:34 PM Diane Roberts  wrote:

> He is a really great guy at Stewart’s Pond, who leases the property. I
> have spoken to him a few times in a friendly conversation. I know others
> have as well. He allows birders to go into the cattle area, warning mother
> cows are protective of the calves.
>
> Diane Roberts
> Highlands Ranch, CO
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 20, 2021, at 4:21 PM, 'The Nunn Guy' via Colorado Birds <
> cobirds@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi all
>
> I'd like to ask about access to Stewart's Pond. I've heard from and seen
> multiple occasions folks and cars beyond the corral area to view Stewart's
> Pond. Does anyone have the definitive answer that the landowner is okay
> with birders on their property? Each time I go near I'm hoping to see
> someone working there to ask and confirm for myself we have permission.
>
> Thanks, Gary Lefko, Nunn
> http://www.friendsofthepawneegrassland.org/
>
> https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/birds-and-more-of-the-pawnee-national-grassland
>
> On Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 10:05:12 AM UTC-6 lrh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Frankly, I don’t blame him. Years ago, when my house was the only one on
>> my road, both birders and hunters would drive down my long driveway looking
>> for birds or game. It’s perhaps ironic, but the hunters were the ones who
>> would come to the door asking for permission to be on my land. Birders did
>> not. They drove on my horse pasture, opened gates they had no business
>> opening, and smashed a pipe that delivered water from my well to the
>> horses’ water tank. Please be respectful of other people and their
>> property.
>>
>> Lauren Hyde
>> Keenesburg
>> Weld County
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2021, at 9:00 AM, DAVID A LEATHERMAN 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> All Birders,
>> The other day I was picking around in the grass at roadside trying to
>> figure out what 3 Long-billed Curlews might be eating when a pickup came
>> down a long drive across the way and stopped next to me.  The man, Scott,
>> was highly agitated at me and all birders.  He initially blamed us for a
>> long litany of offenses including getting him and his PTSD flared up,
>> causing his dogs to bark, littering that occurs every week of the year
>> especially during Cheyenne Frontier Days, setting fires, cutting his
>> fences, hunting on his land, trespassing on the road that may or may not be
>> private but that he considers private and more.  Suffice it to say this
>> man, who I think is probably a pretty nice guy under his Marine Corps hat,
>> is armed and not to be messed with.  The location is a little spur road
>> between CR5 and I-25 that goes north from Larimer CR92.  This road goes
>> about a mile and ends at a closed gate which leads to the City of Fort
>> Collins solid waste treatment plant for use on the Meadow Springs Ranch.
>> Scott lives up on the hill to the east of this road in the only house at
>> the end of a long driveway.  After a long chat during which he calmed down
>> considerably, he said it was OK for me to look at the curlews but that he
>> would just like to know who is coming up his road and when.  He gave me his
>> phone that could be used for text messaging (970/568-6434
>> <(970)%20568-6434>).  I know a few Larimer folks who go up that road all
>> the way to the gate looking north for longspurs, etc. on a regular basis.
>> The ill-will this might cause is not worth a tick mark on a checklist.
>> Either call Scott in advance or go elsewhere.  Be advised.
>>
>> Dave Leatherman
>> Fort Collins
>>
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Re: [cobirds] Courtesy to a landowner

[Diane Roberts]

He is a really great guy at Stewart’s Pond, who leases the property. I have 
spoken to him a few times in a friendly conversation. I know others have as 
well. He allows birders to go into the cattle area, warning mother cows are 
protective of the calves. 

Diane Roberts
Highlands Ranch, CO 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 20, 2021, at 4:21 PM, 'The Nunn Guy' via Colorado Birds 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all
> 
> I'd like to ask about access to Stewart's Pond. I've heard from and seen 
> multiple occasions folks and cars beyond the corral area to view Stewart's 
> Pond. Does anyone have the definitive answer that the landowner is okay with 
> birders on their property? Each time I go near I'm hoping to see someone 
> working there to ask and confirm for myself we have permission.
> 
> Thanks, Gary Lefko, Nunn
> http://www.friendsofthepawneegrassland.org/
> https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/birds-and-more-of-the-pawnee-national-grassland
> 
>> On Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 10:05:12 AM UTC-6 lrh...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Frankly, I don’t blame him. Years ago, when my house was the only one on my 
>> road, both birders and hunters would drive down my long driveway looking for 
>> birds or game. It’s perhaps ironic, but the hunters were the ones who would 
>> come to the door asking for permission to be on my land. Birders did not. 
>> They drove on my horse pasture, opened gates they had no business opening, 
>> and smashed a pipe that delivered water from my well to the horses’ water 
>> tank. Please be respectful of other people and their property. 
>> 
>> Lauren Hyde
>> Keenesburg
>> Weld County
>> 
 On Apr 20, 2021, at 9:00 AM, DAVID A LEATHERMAN  wrote:
 
>>> 
>> 
>>> All Birders,
>>> The other day I was picking around in the grass at roadside trying to 
>>> figure out what 3 Long-billed Curlews might be eating when a pickup came 
>>> down a long drive across the way and stopped next to me.  The man, Scott, 
>>> was highly agitated at me and all birders.  He initially blamed us for a 
>>> long litany of offenses including getting him and his PTSD flared up, 
>>> causing his dogs to bark, littering that occurs every week of the year 
>>> especially during Cheyenne Frontier Days, setting fires, cutting his 
>>> fences, hunting on his land, trespassing on the road that may or may not be 
>>> private but that he considers private and more.  Suffice it to say this 
>>> man, who I think is probably a pretty nice guy under his Marine Corps hat, 
>>> is armed and not to be messed with.  The location is a little spur road 
>>> between CR5 and I-25 that goes north from Larimer CR92.  This road goes 
>>> about a mile and ends at a closed gate which leads to the City of Fort 
>>> Collins solid waste treatment plant for use on the Meadow Springs Ranch.  
>>> Scott lives up on the hill to the east of this road in the only house at 
>>> the end of a long driveway.  After a long chat during which he calmed down 
>>> considerably, he said it was OK for me to look at the curlews but that he 
>>> would just like to know who is coming up his road and when.  He gave me his 
>>> phone that could be used for text messaging (970/568-6434).  I know a few 
>>> Larimer folks who go up that road all the way to the gate looking north for 
>>> longspurs, etc. on a regular basis.  The ill-will this might cause is not 
>>> worth a tick mark on a checklist.  Either call Scott in advance or go 
>>> elsewhere.  Be advised.
>>> 
>>> Dave Leatherman
>>> Fort Collins
>> 
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Re: [cobirds] Courtesy to a landowner

['The Nunn Guy' via Colorado Birds]

Hi all

I'd like to ask about access to Stewart's Pond. I've heard from and seen 
multiple occasions folks and cars beyond the corral area to view Stewart's 
Pond. Does anyone have the definitive answer that the landowner is okay 
with birders on their property? Each time I go near I'm hoping to see 
someone working there to ask and confirm for myself we have permission.

Thanks, Gary Lefko, Nunn
http://www.friendsofthepawneegrassland.org/
https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/birds-and-more-of-the-pawnee-national-grassland

On Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 10:05:12 AM UTC-6 lrh...@gmail.com wrote:

> Frankly, I don’t blame him. Years ago, when my house was the only one on 
> my road, both birders and hunters would drive down my long driveway looking 
> for birds or game. It’s perhaps ironic, but the hunters were the ones who 
> would come to the door asking for permission to be on my land. Birders did 
> not. They drove on my horse pasture, opened gates they had no business 
> opening, and smashed a pipe that delivered water from my well to the 
> horses’ water tank. Please be respectful of other people and their 
> property. 
>
> Lauren Hyde
> Keenesburg
> Weld County
>
> On Apr 20, 2021, at 9:00 AM, DAVID A LEATHERMAN  wrote:
>
>  
>
> All Birders,
> The other day I was picking around in the grass at roadside trying to 
> figure out what 3 Long-billed Curlews might be eating when a pickup came 
> down a long drive across the way and stopped next to me.  The man, Scott, 
> was highly agitated at me and all birders.  He initially blamed us for a 
> long litany of offenses including getting him and his PTSD flared up, 
> causing his dogs to bark, littering that occurs every week of the year 
> especially during Cheyenne Frontier Days, setting fires, cutting his 
> fences, hunting on his land, trespassing on the road that may or may not be 
> private but that he considers private and more.  Suffice it to say this 
> man, who I think is probably a pretty nice guy under his Marine Corps hat, 
> is armed and not to be messed with.  The location is a little spur road 
> between CR5 and I-25 that goes north from Larimer CR92.  This road goes 
> about a mile and ends at a closed gate which leads to the City of Fort 
> Collins solid waste treatment plant for use on the Meadow Springs Ranch.  
> Scott lives up on the hill to the east of this road in the only house at 
> the end of a long driveway.  After a long chat during which he calmed down 
> considerably, he said it was OK for me to look at the curlews but that he 
> would just like to know who is coming up his road and when.  He gave me his 
> phone that could be used for text messaging (970/568-6434 
> <(970)%20568-6434>).  I know a few Larimer folks who go up that road all 
> the way to the gate looking north for longspurs, etc. on a regular basis.  
> The ill-will this might cause is not worth a tick mark on a checklist.  
> Either call Scott in advance or go elsewhere.  Be advised.
>
> Dave Leatherman
> Fort Collins
>
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Re: [cobirds] Courtesy to a landowner

[Lauren Hyde]

Frankly, I don’t blame him. Years ago, when my house was the only one on my 
road, both birders and hunters would drive down my long driveway looking for 
birds or game. It’s perhaps ironic, but the hunters were the ones who would 
come to the door asking for permission to be on my land. Birders did not. They 
drove on my horse pasture, opened gates they had no business opening, and 
smashed a pipe that delivered water from my well to the horses’ water tank. 
Please be respectful of other people and their property. 

Lauren Hyde
Keenesburg
Weld County

> On Apr 20, 2021, at 9:00 AM, DAVID A LEATHERMAN  wrote:
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> All Birders,
> The other day I was picking around in the grass at roadside trying to figure 
> out what 3 Long-billed Curlews might be eating when a pickup came down a long 
> drive across the way and stopped next to me.  The man, Scott, was highly 
> agitated at me and all birders.  He initially blamed us for a long litany of 
> offenses including getting him and his PTSD flared up, causing his dogs to 
> bark, littering that occurs every week of the year especially during Cheyenne 
> Frontier Days, setting fires, cutting his fences, hunting on his land, 
> trespassing on the road that may or may not be private but that he considers 
> private and more.  Suffice it to say this man, who I think is probably a 
> pretty nice guy under his Marine Corps hat, is armed and not to be messed 
> with.  The location is a little spur road between CR5 and I-25 that goes 
> north from Larimer CR92.  This road goes about a mile and ends at a closed 
> gate which leads to the City of Fort Collins solid waste treatment plant for 
> use on the Meadow Springs Ranch.  Scott lives up on the hill to the east of 
> this road in the only house at the end of a long driveway.  After a long chat 
> during which he calmed down considerably, he said it was OK for me to look at 
> the curlews but that he would just like to know who is coming up his road and 
> when.  He gave me his phone that could be used for text messaging 
> (970/568-6434).  I know a few Larimer folks who go up that road all the way 
> to the gate looking north for longspurs, etc. on a regular basis.  The 
> ill-will this might cause is not worth a tick mark on a checklist.  Either 
> call Scott in advance or go elsewhere.  Be advised.
> 
> Dave Leatherman
> Fort Collins
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[cobirds] Courtesy to a landowner

[DAVID A LEATHERMAN]

All Birders,
The other day I was picking around in the grass at roadside trying to figure 
out what 3 Long-billed Curlews might be eating when a pickup came down a long 
drive across the way and stopped next to me.  The man, Scott, was highly 
agitated at me and all birders.  He initially blamed us for a long litany of 
offenses including getting him and his PTSD flared up, causing his dogs to 
bark, littering that occurs every week of the year especially during Cheyenne 
Frontier Days, setting fires, cutting his fences, hunting on his land, 
trespassing on the road that may or may not be private but that he considers 
private and more.  Suffice it to say this man, who I think is probably a pretty 
nice guy under his Marine Corps hat, is armed and not to be messed with.  The 
location is a little spur road between CR5 and I-25 that goes north from 
Larimer CR92.  This road goes about a mile and ends at a closed gate which 
leads to the City of Fort Collins solid waste treatment plant for use on the 
Meadow Springs Ranch.  Scott lives up on the hill to the east of this road in 
the only house at the end of a long driveway.  After a long chat during which 
he calmed down considerably, he said it was OK for me to look at the curlews 
but that he would just like to know who is coming up his road and when.  He 
gave me his phone that could be used for text messaging (970/568-6434).  I know 
a few Larimer folks who go up that road all the way to the gate looking north 
for longspurs, etc. on a regular basis.  The ill-will this might cause is not 
worth a tick mark on a checklist.  Either call Scott in advance or go 
elsewhere.  Be advised.

Dave Leatherman
Fort Collins

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