[cobirds] Re: The New Chatfield State Park, Jeffco and Douglas counties

2019-08-27 Thread Steve Stachowiak
Cobirders,

Before this thread is closed, there is a bit of a misconception in the 
previous responses.  According to the CSU Colorado Water Knowledge website, 
consumptive water use in Colorado is 400,000 acre-feet for Municipal & 
Industrial and 4,700,000 acre-feet for Agriculture or 11.75 more than 
Municipal/Industrial.  Maybe we should consider that fact before buy Rocky 
Ford Cantaloupe or Olathe Sweet Corn grown in semi-arid terrain at what 
cost?

Good Birding,
Steve Stachowiak
Highlands Ranch, CO

On Sunday, August 25, 2019 at 6:44:37 PM UTC-6, Tom Wilberding wrote:
>
> Driving around Chatfield today I wondered why are all the new roads, 
> paths, and parking lots SO FAR from the water. Then I scrolled through the 
> following maps showing the future water level, and see that it is very 
> close to the new parking lots. 
> https://chatfieldreallocation.org/project-map/
>
> For example, the Plum Creek Day Use parking lot is shown about thirty feet 
> from the water, not .67 miles as it exists now. When the water will be 
> raised, where the additional water will come from, and how it will affect 
> many trees which will be underwater, I don't know. 
>
> I think Chatfield is still a work-in-progress. Hope the final product will 
> be beneficial to birds.
>
> Tom Wilberding
> Littleton, CO
>

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[cobirds] Re: The New Chatfield State Park, Jeffco and Douglas counties

2019-08-26 Thread Bill Schreitz
First, thank you Tom, for posting the website showing the plans for 
Chatfield. I attended the District Court session and heard the 
presentations on both sides of the Chatfield Reallocation issue. Reaching 
the the proposed future water level depends on three seemingly unlikely 
sources, only two of which we have any control. Those three are annual 
precipitation over and above the recent average (specifically made clear in 
the Court proceeding), improved wise use (both residential & commercial) of 
our daily use of water, and a reduction of new development of both 
residential and commercial construction. There is no new water (say from 
the western slope) that is slated to fill Chatfield, only the excess rain & 
snow above the usual from the watershed areas that feed the reservoir 
now.Wise use and development reduction is all we can do.  I would be 
interested to know when that future water level is projected to be reached. 
Does anyone know that target year?

On Sunday, August 25, 2019 at 6:44:37 PM UTC-6, Tom Wilberding wrote:
>
> Driving around Chatfield today I wondered why are all the new roads, 
> paths, and parking lots SO FAR from the water. Then I scrolled through the 
> following maps showing the future water level, and see that it is very 
> close to the new parking lots. 
> https://chatfieldreallocation.org/project-map/
>
> For example, the Plum Creek Day Use parking lot is shown about thirty feet 
> from the water, not .67 miles as it exists now. When the water will be 
> raised, where the additional water will come from, and how it will affect 
> many trees which will be underwater, I don't know. 
>
> I think Chatfield is still a work-in-progress. Hope the final product will 
> be beneficial to birds.
>
> Tom Wilberding
> Littleton, CO
>

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