Re: [cobirds] Staying at Home

2020-03-30 Thread Alan Ketcham
I would like to see this forum return to birds and birding.   I rarely 
chase birds up north in dense urban areas, but I appreciate following the 
migration through others eyes.   I will continue to bird in my local region 
of El Paso County (saw Sandhill Crane and Franklin's Gull today) where in 
my last three days of birding outings I have encountered NO ONE.   Easy to 
follow "social distancing" in this circumstance.

It seems that the prescriptionists and totalitarians are taking over the 
forum.   Where are the moderators?   Let's keep the discussion focused on 
birds.   I can turn on MSNBC and see all the politics of the virus I can 
stomach.


On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 3:58:13 PM UTC-6, Nick Komar wrote:
>
> Let’s keep the discussion related to birds and birding in Colorado. This 
> list serve will remain available to the Colorado birding community for 
> open, respectful expression.
>
> Nick Komar
> CFO President
> Fort Collins CO
>
> On Mar 30, 2020, at 3:49 PM, Gary Brower > 
> wrote:
>
> I, personally, see no need to suspend the forum.  We can use it for 
> other, totally-appropriate, bird-related things, than the RBA.
>
> For example, someone the other day wondered about presence of GBHEs in 
> their “area”. Over the last two days in my “area” —Cherry Creek SP—I’ve 
> seen (perhaps) three: at least two, plus another single (which may have 
> been one of the two).  I doubt anyone here is going to “chase” a GBHE, but 
> some folks might be interested in keeping track of their appearance.
>
> Gary Brower
> Unincorporated Arapahoe County
>
> On Mar 30, 2020, at 3:26 PM, 'Jean Stevenson' via Colorado Birds <
> cob...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> I agree that the Rare Bird Alert should be suspended temporarily.  Let 
> those who are determined to chase rarities call each other as they used to 
> do.  Jean
>  
> =J=
>  
> *From: *Allison Hilf 
> *Sent: *Monday, March 30, 2020 2:09 PM
> *To: *libby...@gmail.com 
> *Cc: *fiddl...@aol.com ; cgoulart...@comcast.net 
> ; Colorado Birds 
> *Subject: *Re: [cobirds] Staying at Home
>  
> I think suspending the RARE BIRD ALERT is appropriate; but think we should 
> encourage people to discuss birds AND bird behavior in their 
> yards/neighborhoods in this group.   The decision to suspend the RBA is not 
> mine, as I am only one of the Volunteer Compilers.   We are having a 
> difficult time deciding what to do, all input is appreciated.
>  
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:52 PM Libby Edwards  > wrote:
>
> I agree!  Reporting of birds is so fun and precious to read about, 
> especially some of the bird behavior ones lately.  Do not stop this!!  We 
> can certainly report from our homes and neighborhoods.
>
> This morning we had a song sparrow at our feeder, along with a leucistic 
> white headed male house finch!  The pair of Bush tits are still there as 
> well as the usual heard birds.
>
> Libby Edwards 
> Fort Collins
>
> > On Mar 30, 2020, at 1:46 PM, 'Deborah Carstensen' via Colorado Birds <
> cob...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
> > 
> > In response to your suggestion to suspend this bird list, I would ask 
> that we please keep it going! I see birds at my home that I like to report 
> and I like to see other peoples reports of birds coming in even if it’s in 
> your backyard.
> > 
> > Deb Carstensen, Arapahoe county
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Mar 30, 2020, at 12:45 PM, Chris Goulart  > wrote:
> >> 
> >> I have been a safety professional for about 25 years, and recently 
> transitioned to working in the healthcare industry as a safety professional.
> >> 
> >> I would agree with all of the statements urging being very conservative 
> when it comes to travel for the time being. I understand that means missing 
> spring migration, but any exposure at this juncture is really not 
> acceptable.  I would also agree with the sentiment that posting about birds 
> that are likely to make people take risks in going to see them is not 
> advisable.
> >> 
> >> Personally, I would go so far as to say that this google groups list 
> should be suspended until all shelter in place orders have been lifted.  
> Telling people about the location of interesting birds will only serve to 
> motivate people to travel to those locations to try to see them. 
> Unfortunately, as some people have pointed out, the chances of a traffic 
> crash or other situations where you find yourself exposed to people cannot 
> be completely eliminated when you are out birding. The only way to truly 
> eliminate the risk is to just stay at home.
> >> 
> >> Please do not find yourself going to local

Re: [cobirds] Staying at Home

2020-03-30 Thread Nicholas Komar
Let’s keep the discussion related to birds and birding in Colorado. This list 
serve will remain available to the Colorado birding community for open, 
respectful expression.

Nick Komar
CFO President
Fort Collins CO

> On Mar 30, 2020, at 3:49 PM, Gary Brower  wrote:
> 
> I, personally, see no need to suspend the forum.  We can use it for other, 
> totally-appropriate, bird-related things, than the RBA.
> 
> For example, someone the other day wondered about presence of GBHEs in their 
> “area”. Over the last two days in my “area” —Cherry Creek SP—I’ve seen 
> (perhaps) three: at least two, plus another single (which may have been one 
> of the two).  I doubt anyone here is going to “chase” a GBHE, but some folks 
> might be interested in keeping track of their appearance.
> 
> Gary Brower
> Unincorporated Arapahoe County
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2020, at 3:26 PM, 'Jean Stevenson' via Colorado Birds 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I agree that the Rare Bird Alert should be suspended temporarily.  Let those 
>> who are determined to chase rarities call each other as they used to do.  
>> Jean
>>  
>> =J=
>>  
>> From: Allison Hilf
>> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 2:09 PM
>> To: libbyeu...@gmail.com
>> Cc: fiddlen...@aol.com; cgoulart...@comcast.net; Colorado Birds
>> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Staying at Home
>>  
>> I think suspending the RARE BIRD ALERT is appropriate; but think we should 
>> encourage people to discuss birds AND bird behavior in their 
>> yards/neighborhoods in this group.   The decision to suspend the RBA is not 
>> mine, as I am only one of the Volunteer Compilers.   We are having a 
>> difficult time deciding what to do, all input is appreciated.
>>  
>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:52 PM Libby Edwards  wrote:
>> I agree!  Reporting of birds is so fun and precious to read about, 
>> especially some of the bird behavior ones lately.  Do not stop this!!  We 
>> can certainly report from our homes and neighborhoods.
>> 
>> This morning we had a song sparrow at our feeder, along with a leucistic 
>> white headed male house finch!  The pair of Bush tits are still there as 
>> well as the usual heard birds.
>> 
>> Libby Edwards 
>> Fort Collins
>> 
>> > On Mar 30, 2020, at 1:46 PM, 'Deborah Carstensen' via Colorado Birds 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > In response to your suggestion to suspend this bird list, I would ask 
>> > that we please keep it going! I see birds at my home that I like to report 
>> > and I like to see other peoples reports of birds coming in even if it’s in 
>> > your backyard.
>> > 
>> > Deb Carstensen, Arapahoe county
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> > 
>> >> On Mar 30, 2020, at 12:45 PM, Chris Goulart  
>> >> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> I have been a safety professional for about 25 years, and recently 
>> >> transitioned to working in the healthcare industry as a safety 
>> >> professional.
>> >> 
>> >> I would agree with all of the statements urging being very conservative 
>> >> when it comes to travel for the time being. I understand that means 
>> >> missing spring migration, but any exposure at this juncture is really not 
>> >> acceptable.  I would also agree with the sentiment that posting about 
>> >> birds that are likely to make people take risks in going to see them is 
>> >> not advisable.
>> >> 
>> >> Personally, I would go so far as to say that this google groups list 
>> >> should be suspended until all shelter in place orders have been lifted.  
>> >> Telling people about the location of interesting birds will only serve to 
>> >> motivate people to travel to those locations to try to see them. 
>> >> Unfortunately, as some people have pointed out, the chances of a traffic 
>> >> crash or other situations where you find yourself exposed to people 
>> >> cannot be completely eliminated when you are out birding. The only way to 
>> >> truly eliminate the risk is to just stay at home.
>> >> 
>> >> Please do not find yourself going to local hotspots to go birding. I know 
>> >> we may all think that we can self isolate, but you still have to 
>> >> potentially interact with other people and the chances of spreading the 
>> >> virus right now are just too high. Remember, it’s not just about your own 
>> >> personal exposure, it’s also about being a potential vector for spreading 
>> >> the virus to ot

Re: [cobirds] Staying at Home

2020-03-30 Thread Gary Brower
I, personally, see no need to suspend the forum.  We can use it for other, 
totally-appropriate, bird-related things, than the RBA.

For example, someone the other day wondered about presence of GBHEs in their 
“area”. Over the last two days in my “area” —Cherry Creek SP—I’ve seen 
(perhaps) three: at least two, plus another single (which may have been one of 
the two).  I doubt anyone here is going to “chase” a GBHE, but some folks might 
be interested in keeping track of their appearance.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Mar 30, 2020, at 3:26 PM, 'Jean Stevenson' via Colorado Birds 
>  wrote:
> 
> I agree that the Rare Bird Alert should be suspended temporarily.  Let those 
> who are determined to chase rarities call each other as they used to do.  Jean
>  
> =J=
>  
> From: Allison Hilf <mailto:allisonh...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 2:09 PM
> To: libbyeu...@gmail.com <mailto:libbyeu...@gmail.com>
> Cc: fiddlen...@aol.com <mailto:fiddlen...@aol.com>; cgoulart...@comcast.net 
> <mailto:cgoulart...@comcast.net>; Colorado Birds 
> <mailto:Cobirds@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Staying at Home
>  
> I think suspending the RARE BIRD ALERT is appropriate; but think we should 
> encourage people to discuss birds AND bird behavior in their 
> yards/neighborhoods in this group.   The decision to suspend the RBA is not 
> mine, as I am only one of the Volunteer Compilers.   We are having a 
> difficult time deciding what to do, all input is appreciated.
>  
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:52 PM Libby Edwards  <mailto:libbyeu...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I agree!  Reporting of birds is so fun and precious to read about, especially 
> some of the bird behavior ones lately.  Do not stop this!!  We can certainly 
> report from our homes and neighborhoods.
> 
> This morning we had a song sparrow at our feeder, along with a leucistic 
> white headed male house finch!  The pair of Bush tits are still there as well 
> as the usual heard birds.
> 
> Libby Edwards 
> Fort Collins
> 
> > On Mar 30, 2020, at 1:46 PM, 'Deborah Carstensen' via Colorado Birds 
> > mailto:cobirds@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > In response to your suggestion to suspend this bird list, I would ask that 
> > we please keep it going! I see birds at my home that I like to report and I 
> > like to see other peoples reports of birds coming in even if it’s in your 
> > backyard.
> > 
> > Deb Carstensen, Arapahoe county
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Mar 30, 2020, at 12:45 PM, Chris Goulart  >> <mailto:cgoulart...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> >> 
> >> I have been a safety professional for about 25 years, and recently 
> >> transitioned to working in the healthcare industry as a safety 
> >> professional.
> >> 
> >> I would agree with all of the statements urging being very conservative 
> >> when it comes to travel for the time being. I understand that means 
> >> missing spring migration, but any exposure at this juncture is really not 
> >> acceptable.  I would also agree with the sentiment that posting about 
> >> birds that are likely to make people take risks in going to see them is 
> >> not advisable.
> >> 
> >> Personally, I would go so far as to say that this google groups list 
> >> should be suspended until all shelter in place orders have been lifted.  
> >> Telling people about the location of interesting birds will only serve to 
> >> motivate people to travel to those locations to try to see them. 
> >> Unfortunately, as some people have pointed out, the chances of a traffic 
> >> crash or other situations where you find yourself exposed to people cannot 
> >> be completely eliminated when you are out birding. The only way to truly 
> >> eliminate the risk is to just stay at home.
> >> 
> >> Please do not find yourself going to local hotspots to go birding. I know 
> >> we may all think that we can self isolate, but you still have to 
> >> potentially interact with other people and the chances of spreading the 
> >> virus right now are just too high. Remember, it’s not just about your own 
> >> personal exposure, it’s also about being a potential vector for spreading 
> >> the virus to others.
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> 
> >> Chris Goulart
> >> 
> >> Aurora, Colorado
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >> -- 
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RE: [cobirds] Staying at Home

2020-03-30 Thread 'Jean Stevenson' via Colorado Birds
I agree that the Rare Bird Alert should be suspended temporarily.  Let those 
who are determined to chase rarities call each other as they used to do.  Jean

=J=

From: Allison Hilf
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 2:09 PM
To: libbyeu...@gmail.com
Cc: fiddlen...@aol.com; cgoulart...@comcast.net; Colorado Birds
Subject: Re: [cobirds] Staying at Home

I think suspending the RARE BIRD ALERT is appropriate; but think we should 
encourage people to discuss birds AND bird behavior in their 
yards/neighborhoods in this group.   The decision to suspend the RBA is not 
mine, as I am only one of the Volunteer Compilers.   We are having a difficult 
time deciding what to do, all input is appreciated.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:52 PM Libby Edwards  wrote:
I agree!  Reporting of birds is so fun and precious to read about, especially 
some of the bird behavior ones lately.  Do not stop this!!  We can certainly 
report from our homes and neighborhoods.

This morning we had a song sparrow at our feeder, along with a leucistic white 
headed male house finch!  The pair of Bush tits are still there as well as the 
usual heard birds.

Libby Edwards 
Fort Collins

> On Mar 30, 2020, at 1:46 PM, 'Deborah Carstensen' via Colorado Birds 
>  wrote:
> 
> In response to your suggestion to suspend this bird list, I would ask that 
> we please keep it going! I see birds at my home that I like to report and I 
> like to see other peoples reports of birds coming in even if it’s in your 
> backyard.
> 
> Deb Carstensen, Arapahoe county
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2020, at 12:45 PM, Chris Goulart  wrote:
>> 
>> I have been a safety professional for about 25 years, and recently 
>> transitioned to working in the healthcare industry as a safety professional.
>> 
>> I would agree with all of the statements urging being very conservative when 
>> it comes to travel for the time being. I understand that means missing 
>> spring migration, but any exposure at this juncture is really not 
>> acceptable.  I would also agree with the sentiment that posting about birds 
>> that are likely to make people take risks in going to see them is not 
>> advisable.
>> 
>> Personally, I would go so far as to say that this google groups list should 
>> be suspended until all shelter in place orders have been lifted.  Telling 
>> people about the location of interesting birds will only serve to motivate 
>> people to travel to those locations to try to see them. Unfortunately, as 
>> some people have pointed out, the chances of a traffic crash or other 
>> situations where you find yourself exposed to people cannot be completely 
>> eliminated when you are out birding. The only way to truly eliminate the 
>> risk is to just stay at home.
>> 
>> Please do not find yourself going to local hotspots to go birding. I know we 
>> may all think that we can self isolate, but you still have to potentially 
>> interact with other people and the chances of spreading the virus right now 
>> are just too high. Remember, it’s not just about your own personal exposure, 
>> it’s also about being a potential vector for spreading the virus to others.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Chris Goulart
>> 
>> Aurora, Colorado
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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RE: [cobirds] Staying at Home

2020-03-30 Thread 'Jean Stevenson' via Colorado Birds
I agree that the Rare Bird Alert should be suspended temporarily.  Let those 
who are determined to chase rarities call each other as they used to do.  Jean

=J=

From: Allison Hilf
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 2:09 PM
To: libbyeu...@gmail.com
Cc: fiddlen...@aol.com; cgoulart...@comcast.net; Colorado Birds
Subject: Re: [cobirds] Staying at Home

I think suspending the RARE BIRD ALERT is appropriate; but think we should 
encourage people to discuss birds AND bird behavior in their 
yards/neighborhoods in this group.   The decision to suspend the RBA is not 
mine, as I am only one of the Volunteer Compilers.   We are having a difficult 
time deciding what to do, all input is appreciated.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:52 PM Libby Edwards  wrote:
I agree!  Reporting of birds is so fun and precious to read about, especially 
some of the bird behavior ones lately.  Do not stop this!!  We can certainly 
report from our homes and neighborhoods.

This morning we had a song sparrow at our feeder, along with a leucistic white 
headed male house finch!  The pair of Bush tits are still there as well as the 
usual heard birds.

Libby Edwards 
Fort Collins

> On Mar 30, 2020, at 1:46 PM, 'Deborah Carstensen' via Colorado Birds 
>  wrote:
> 
> In response to your suggestion to suspend this bird list, I would ask that 
> we please keep it going! I see birds at my home that I like to report and I 
> like to see other peoples reports of birds coming in even if it’s in your 
> backyard.
> 
> Deb Carstensen, Arapahoe county
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2020, at 12:45 PM, Chris Goulart  wrote:
>> 
>> I have been a safety professional for about 25 years, and recently 
>> transitioned to working in the healthcare industry as a safety professional.
>> 
>> I would agree with all of the statements urging being very conservative when 
>> it comes to travel for the time being. I understand that means missing 
>> spring migration, but any exposure at this juncture is really not 
>> acceptable.  I would also agree with the sentiment that posting about birds 
>> that are likely to make people take risks in going to see them is not 
>> advisable.
>> 
>> Personally, I would go so far as to say that this google groups list should 
>> be suspended until all shelter in place orders have been lifted.  Telling 
>> people about the location of interesting birds will only serve to motivate 
>> people to travel to those locations to try to see them. Unfortunately, as 
>> some people have pointed out, the chances of a traffic crash or other 
>> situations where you find yourself exposed to people cannot be completely 
>> eliminated when you are out birding. The only way to truly eliminate the 
>> risk is to just stay at home.
>> 
>> Please do not find yourself going to local hotspots to go birding. I know we 
>> may all think that we can self isolate, but you still have to potentially 
>> interact with other people and the chances of spreading the virus right now 
>> are just too high. Remember, it’s not just about your own personal exposure, 
>> it’s also about being a potential vector for spreading the virus to others.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Chris Goulart
>> 
>> Aurora, Colorado
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: [cobirds] Staying at Home

2020-03-30 Thread Marie Hoerner
Unquestionably, I agree that our top priority right now must be to heed
public health orders and to encourage others to do the same.  That said, I
also would be very sad to see the forum completely suspended right now.
The posts that I enjoy the most often are interesting observations of yard
birds, bird behavior, or even updates on interesting research that's going
on in the professional world.  Also, even though I don't contribute often,
I have come to think of COBirds as "my community" and it makes me feel less
isolated to read these emails and to hear from others about a mutually
shared interest.  I feel a particular need for that sense of community at
the moment with so little ability to get out and see people face-to-face.
I will obviously support whatever decision is made in the interests of
encouraging safe practices, but my individual vote would be for continuing
to keep the COBirds community active if possible.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:11 PM macawolf via Colorado Birds <
cobirds@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> And just to reinforce the "stay-at-home" expectations and extent, Gov.
> Polis just now finished a press conference in which he must have said half
> a dozen times, that while we may walk around our neighborhood (maintaining
> social distancing) we should NOT be driving off anywhere EXCEPT for
> emergency situations.
>
> Certainly needing food or medications (or having to go to work for those
> whose jobs are deemed essential now) are such emergencies, but no, not to
> go birding.
>
> Good homebirding.
>
> Marty Wolf
> NW CO Spgs
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Goulart 
> To: cobirds 
> Sent: Mon, Mar 30, 2020 12:46 pm
> Subject: [cobirds] Staying at Home
>
> I have been a safety professional for about 25 years, and recently
> transitioned to working in the healthcare industry as a safety professional.
>
> I would agree with all of the statements urging being very conservative
> when it comes to travel for the time being. I understand that means missing
> spring migration, but any exposure at this juncture is really not
> acceptable.  I would also agree with the sentiment that posting about birds
> that are likely to make people take risks in going to see them is not
> advisable.
>
> Personally, I would go so far as to say that this google groups list
> should be suspended until all shelter in place orders have been lifted.
> Telling people about the location of interesting birds will only serve to
> motivate people to travel to those locations to try to see them.
> Unfortunately, as some people have pointed out, the chances of a traffic
> crash or other situations where you find yourself exposed to people cannot
> be completely eliminated when you are out birding. The only way to truly
> eliminate the risk is to just stay at home.
>
> Please do not find yourself going to local hotspots to go birding. I know
> we may all think that we can self isolate, but you still have to
> potentially interact with other people and the chances of spreading the
> virus right now are just too high. Remember, it’s not just about your own
> personal exposure, it’s also about being a potential vector for spreading
> the virus to others.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris Goulart
>
> Aurora, Colorado
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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Re: [cobirds] Staying at Home

2020-03-30 Thread macawolf via Colorado Birds
And just to reinforce the "stay-at-home" expectations and extent, Gov. Polis 
just now finished a press conference in which he must have said half a dozen 
times, that while we may walk around our neighborhood (maintaining social 
distancing) we should NOT be driving off anywhere EXCEPT for emergency 
situations. 
Certainly needing food or medications (or having to go to work for those whose 
jobs are deemed essential now) are such emergencies, but no, not to go birding.
Good homebirding.
Marty WolfNW CO Spgs


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From: Chris Goulart 
To: cobirds 
Sent: Mon, Mar 30, 2020 12:46 pm
Subject: [cobirds] Staying at Home

I have been a safety professional for about 25 years, and recently transitioned 
to working in the healthcare industry as a safety professional.

I would agree with all of the statements urging being very conservative when it 
comes to travel for the time being. I understand that means missing spring 
migration, but any exposure at this juncture is really not acceptable.  I would 
also agree with the sentiment that posting about birds that are likely to make 
people take risks in going to see them is not advisable.

Personally, I would go so far as to say that this google groups list should be 
suspended until all shelter in place orders have been lifted.  Telling people 
about the location of interesting birds will only serve to motivate people to 
travel to those locations to try to see them. Unfortunately, as some people 
have pointed out, the chances of a traffic crash or other situations where you 
find yourself exposed to people cannot be completely eliminated when you are 
out birding. The only way to truly eliminate the risk is to just stay at home.

Please do not find yourself going to local hotspots to go birding. I know we 
may all think that we can self isolate, but you still have to potentially 
interact with other people and the chances of spreading the virus right now are 
just too high. Remember, it’s not just about your own personal exposure, it’s 
also about being a potential vector for spreading the virus to others.

Thanks,

Chris Goulart

Aurora, Colorado




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Re: [cobirds] Staying at Home

2020-03-30 Thread Allison Hilf
I think suspending the RARE BIRD ALERT is appropriate; but think we should
encourage people to discuss birds AND bird behavior in their
yards/neighborhoods in this group.   The decision to suspend the RBA is not
mine, as I am only one of the Volunteer Compilers.   We are having a
difficult time deciding what to do, all input is appreciated.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:52 PM Libby Edwards  wrote:

> I agree!  Reporting of birds is so fun and precious to read about,
> especially some of the bird behavior ones lately.  Do not stop this!!  We
> can certainly report from our homes and neighborhoods.
>
> This morning we had a song sparrow at our feeder, along with a leucistic
> white headed male house finch!  The pair of Bush tits are still there as
> well as the usual heard birds.
>
> Libby Edwards
> Fort Collins
>
> > On Mar 30, 2020, at 1:46 PM, 'Deborah Carstensen' via Colorado Birds <
> cobirds@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> >
> > In response to your suggestion to suspend this bird list, I would ask
> that we please keep it going! I see birds at my home that I like to report
> and I like to see other peoples reports of birds coming in even if it’s in
> your backyard.
> >
> > Deb Carstensen, Arapahoe county
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Mar 30, 2020, at 12:45 PM, Chris Goulart 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have been a safety professional for about 25 years, and recently
> transitioned to working in the healthcare industry as a safety professional.
> >>
> >> I would agree with all of the statements urging being very conservative
> when it comes to travel for the time being. I understand that means missing
> spring migration, but any exposure at this juncture is really not
> acceptable.  I would also agree with the sentiment that posting about birds
> that are likely to make people take risks in going to see them is not
> advisable.
> >>
> >> Personally, I would go so far as to say that this google groups list
> should be suspended until all shelter in place orders have been lifted.
> Telling people about the location of interesting birds will only serve to
> motivate people to travel to those locations to try to see them.
> Unfortunately, as some people have pointed out, the chances of a traffic
> crash or other situations where you find yourself exposed to people cannot
> be completely eliminated when you are out birding. The only way to truly
> eliminate the risk is to just stay at home.
> >>
> >> Please do not find yourself going to local hotspots to go birding. I
> know we may all think that we can self isolate, but you still have to
> potentially interact with other people and the chances of spreading the
> virus right now are just too high. Remember, it’s not just about your own
> personal exposure, it’s also about being a potential vector for spreading
> the virus to others.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Chris Goulart
> >>
> >> Aurora, Colorado
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [cobirds] Staying at Home

2020-03-30 Thread linda hodges
All,

Might it be time to respectfully assume we're all adults and can manage to
be safe if we decide to venture out?

Thanks for your input,

Linda Hodges
Colorado Springs

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020, 12:45 PM Chris Goulart 
wrote:

> I have been a safety professional for about 25 years, and recently
> transitioned to working in the healthcare industry as a safety professional.
>
> I would agree with all of the statements urging being very conservative
> when it comes to travel for the time being. I understand that means missing
> spring migration, but any exposure at this juncture is really not
> acceptable.  I would also agree with the sentiment that posting about birds
> that are likely to make people take risks in going to see them is not
> advisable.
>
> Personally, I would go so far as to say that this google groups list
> should be suspended until all shelter in place orders have been lifted.
> Telling people about the location of interesting birds will only serve to
> motivate people to travel to those locations to try to see them.
> Unfortunately, as some people have pointed out, the chances of a traffic
> crash or other situations where you find yourself exposed to people cannot
> be completely eliminated when you are out birding. The only way to truly
> eliminate the risk is to just stay at home.
>
> Please do not find yourself going to local hotspots to go birding. I know
> we may all think that we can self isolate, but you still have to
> potentially interact with other people and the chances of spreading the
> virus right now are just too high. Remember, it’s not just about your own
> personal exposure, it’s also about being a potential vector for spreading
> the virus to others.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris Goulart
>
> Aurora, Colorado
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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Re: [cobirds] Staying at Home

2020-03-30 Thread Libby Edwards
I agree!  Reporting of birds is so fun and precious to read about, especially 
some of the bird behavior ones lately.  Do not stop this!!  We can certainly 
report from our homes and neighborhoods.

This morning we had a song sparrow at our feeder, along with a leucistic white 
headed male house finch!  The pair of Bush tits are still there as well as the 
usual heard birds.

Libby Edwards 
Fort Collins

> On Mar 30, 2020, at 1:46 PM, 'Deborah Carstensen' via Colorado Birds 
>  wrote:
> 
> In response to your suggestion to suspend this bird list, I would ask that 
> we please keep it going! I see birds at my home that I like to report and I 
> like to see other peoples reports of birds coming in even if it’s in your 
> backyard.
> 
> Deb Carstensen, Arapahoe county
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2020, at 12:45 PM, Chris Goulart  wrote:
>> 
>> I have been a safety professional for about 25 years, and recently 
>> transitioned to working in the healthcare industry as a safety professional.
>> 
>> I would agree with all of the statements urging being very conservative when 
>> it comes to travel for the time being. I understand that means missing 
>> spring migration, but any exposure at this juncture is really not 
>> acceptable.  I would also agree with the sentiment that posting about birds 
>> that are likely to make people take risks in going to see them is not 
>> advisable.
>> 
>> Personally, I would go so far as to say that this google groups list should 
>> be suspended until all shelter in place orders have been lifted.  Telling 
>> people about the location of interesting birds will only serve to motivate 
>> people to travel to those locations to try to see them. Unfortunately, as 
>> some people have pointed out, the chances of a traffic crash or other 
>> situations where you find yourself exposed to people cannot be completely 
>> eliminated when you are out birding. The only way to truly eliminate the 
>> risk is to just stay at home.
>> 
>> Please do not find yourself going to local hotspots to go birding. I know we 
>> may all think that we can self isolate, but you still have to potentially 
>> interact with other people and the chances of spreading the virus right now 
>> are just too high. Remember, it’s not just about your own personal exposure, 
>> it’s also about being a potential vector for spreading the virus to others.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Chris Goulart
>> 
>> Aurora, Colorado
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [cobirds] Staying at Home

2020-03-30 Thread 'Deborah Carstensen' via Colorado Birds
In response to your suggestion to suspend this bird list, I would ask that we 
please keep it going! I see birds at my home that I like to report and I like 
to see other peoples reports of birds coming in even if it’s in your backyard.

Deb Carstensen, Arapahoe county

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2020, at 12:45 PM, Chris Goulart  wrote:
> 
> I have been a safety professional for about 25 years, and recently 
> transitioned to working in the healthcare industry as a safety professional.
> 
> I would agree with all of the statements urging being very conservative when 
> it comes to travel for the time being. I understand that means missing spring 
> migration, but any exposure at this juncture is really not acceptable.  I 
> would also agree with the sentiment that posting about birds that are likely 
> to make people take risks in going to see them is not advisable.
> 
> Personally, I would go so far as to say that this google groups list should 
> be suspended until all shelter in place orders have been lifted.  Telling 
> people about the location of interesting birds will only serve to motivate 
> people to travel to those locations to try to see them. Unfortunately, as 
> some people have pointed out, the chances of a traffic crash or other 
> situations where you find yourself exposed to people cannot be completely 
> eliminated when you are out birding. The only way to truly eliminate the risk 
> is to just stay at home.
> 
> Please do not find yourself going to local hotspots to go birding. I know we 
> may all think that we can self isolate, but you still have to potentially 
> interact with other people and the chances of spreading the virus right now 
> are just too high. Remember, it’s not just about your own personal exposure, 
> it’s also about being a potential vector for spreading the virus to others.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chris Goulart
> 
> Aurora, Colorado
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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[cobirds] Staying at Home

2020-03-30 Thread Chris Goulart
I have been a safety professional for about 25 years, and recently transitioned 
to working in the healthcare industry as a safety professional.

I would agree with all of the statements urging being very conservative when it 
comes to travel for the time being. I understand that means missing spring 
migration, but any exposure at this juncture is really not acceptable.  I would 
also agree with the sentiment that posting about birds that are likely to make 
people take risks in going to see them is not advisable.

Personally, I would go so far as to say that this google groups list should be 
suspended until all shelter in place orders have been lifted.  Telling people 
about the location of interesting birds will only serve to motivate people to 
travel to those locations to try to see them. Unfortunately, as some people 
have pointed out, the chances of a traffic crash or other situations where you 
find yourself exposed to people cannot be completely eliminated when you are 
out birding. The only way to truly eliminate the risk is to just stay at home.

Please do not find yourself going to local hotspots to go birding. I know we 
may all think that we can self isolate, but you still have to potentially 
interact with other people and the chances of spreading the virus right now are 
just too high. Remember, it’s not just about your own personal exposure, it’s 
also about being a potential vector for spreading the virus to others.

Thanks,

Chris Goulart

Aurora, Colorado




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