Re: Swift and parameter names
IMHO, named parameters at call sites are one of the things that makes Objective-C great; and I am VERY happy that Swift-2 enforces this. It is not any additional burden in any modern IDE to have this; as the IDE’s autocomplete fills in the parameter names for you. Also, consider a body of code that has inferred parameters in it… and now you need to add a new function; which makes the inferred call sites ambiguous. At best this will require some complicated regex replacement operations across the whole code base before it will compile again; at worst it will be unfixable (if you don’t have the source code and the binary that you are trying to link against doesn’t have enough information for the linker to resolve the ambiguity (I don’t know enough about Swift’s intermediate format to say if it does or not); or for some reason you do have the source code but are forbidden from modifying it). ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
On 25 Jun 2015, at 12:34, Sandor Szatmari admin.szatmari@gmail.com wrote: I wrote an interface to a third party app using the Scripting Bridge. It worked pretty good but I had to test the SBApplication object for nil before accessing it. Periodically it would return nil unexpectedly. Don't know if that was a bug in the app's implementation or something I was doing wrong. But other than that it worked great. I did what you described, first use sdef and sdp to create the header. Include the header and then create an instance of SBApplication using the third party app's bundle identifier 'com.name.whatever'. I have definitely seen apps that are broken too. They support AppleScript but not fully or something so the scripting bridge is broken for them. Sandor Szatmari That’s the problem, “sdef and/or “sdp barf when I try to generate the header file and without the header file you are pretty much dead in the water. Cheers Dave ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
On 25 Jun 2015, at 13:33, Bill Cheeseman wjcheese...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 25, 2015, at 8:09 AM, Dave d...@looktowindward.com wrote: That’s the problem, “sdef and/or “sdp barf when I try to generate the header file and without the header file you are pretty much dead in the water. I haven't noticed a specific description of the failure you're experiencing. Do you get a partial header file, or a header file that contains errors or that causes errors in your Scripting Bridge implementation? I have found in the past that I can manually edit header files generated by sdef/sdp, at least by removing irrelevant declarations that aren't needed or that cause problems, and when I do it right the edited header files work with Scripting Bridge. I get this error: sdp: enumerator of enumeration e183: missing required name attribute. and an (very) incomplete file, e.g. most of it is missing. All the Best Dave ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
On 25 Jun 2015, at 14:48, Bill Cheeseman wjcheese...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Dave d...@looktowindward.com wrote: I get this error: sdp: enumerator of enumeration e183: missing required name attribute. Can you generate the sdef file separately, then manually edit it to supply the missing required 'name' attribute, and then run sdp on the edited sdef file? You will presumably have to give more than a little thought to what the missing name attribute should be, but maybe you'll hit pay dirt. I’m looking into doing that now, but I can’t seem to find an editor that will open it, at the moment it’s ONE giant line of text, I renamed it to .xml and tried to open in XCode - same. Cheers Dave ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
On further investigation, the App doesn’t have an .sdef, so, the “sdef” tool, must generate it from the old style ‘aete’ resources. So, the fault could be in either “sdef” or “sdp”. I’ve trying to look at the output from “sdef” but it’s in a horrible format - no line endings, so it’s hard to read. If I try to open it as an xml in XCode all I get is a one HUGE line of text and XCode struggles to deal with it (slow as a very slow thing on a cold morning). Cheers Dave On 25 Jun 2015, at 14:29, Dave d...@looktowindward.com wrote: On 25 Jun 2015, at 14:24, Jean-Daniel Dupas mail...@xenonium.com wrote: That just means you wrote an invalid sdef file in the first place. Really? No kidding?!?!? lol The .sdef file comes with the App I am trying to generate the header file for! ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/dave%40looktowindward.com This email sent to d...@looktowindward.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
Le 25 juin 2015 à 15:13, Dave d...@looktowindward.com a écrit : On 25 Jun 2015, at 13:33, Bill Cheeseman wjcheese...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 25, 2015, at 8:09 AM, Dave d...@looktowindward.com wrote: That’s the problem, “sdef and/or “sdp barf when I try to generate the header file and without the header file you are pretty much dead in the water. I haven't noticed a specific description of the failure you're experiencing. Do you get a partial header file, or a header file that contains errors or that causes errors in your Scripting Bridge implementation? I have found in the past that I can manually edit header files generated by sdef/sdp, at least by removing irrelevant declarations that aren't needed or that cause problems, and when I do it right the edited header files work with Scripting Bridge. I get this error: sdp: enumerator of enumeration e183: missing required name attribute. and an (very) incomplete file, e.g. most of it is missing. That just means you wrote an invalid sdef file in the first place. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
Hi, Is the source code of “sdp” available anywhere? Just a thought. All the Best Dave ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
On Jun 25, 2015, at 8:09 AM, Dave d...@looktowindward.com wrote: That’s the problem, “sdef and/or “sdp barf when I try to generate the header file and without the header file you are pretty much dead in the water. I haven't noticed a specific description of the failure you're experiencing. Do you get a partial header file, or a header file that contains errors or that causes errors in your Scripting Bridge implementation? I have found in the past that I can manually edit header files generated by sdef/sdp, at least by removing irrelevant declarations that aren't needed or that cause problems, and when I do it right the edited header files work with Scripting Bridge. -- Bill Cheeseman - b...@cheeseman.name ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Dave d...@looktowindward.com wrote: I get this error: sdp: enumerator of enumeration e183: missing required name attribute. Can you generate the sdef file separately, then manually edit it to supply the missing required 'name' attribute, and then run sdp on the edited sdef file? You will presumably have to give more than a little thought to what the missing name attribute should be, but maybe you'll hit paydirt. -- Bill Cheeseman - b...@cheeseman.name ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
On 25 Jun 2015, at 14:24, Jean-Daniel Dupas mail...@xenonium.com wrote: That just means you wrote an invalid sdef file in the first place. Really? No kidding?!?!? lol The .sdef file comes with the App I am trying to generate the header file for! ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Swift and parameter names
On 25 Jun 2015, at 16:50, dangerwillrobinsondan...@gmail.com wrote: On 2015/06/25, at 15:49, Britt Durbrow bdurb...@rattlesnakehillsoftworks.com wrote: IMHO, named parameters at call sites are one of the things that makes Objective-C great; and I am VERY happy that Swift-2 enforces this. I agree whole heartedly. But will call out that it is a considered and thoughtful design by Cocoa and Foundation Framework engineers. Objective-C doesn't require it. Look at the old Next manual... There were a few obtuse methods. The IDE takes the burden of typing away. The conventions established help promote good coding practices that enable clarity and reduce mistakes and confusion. The (general) consistency and effort towards consistency those folks work towards is for everyone who codes to do it better. For themselves to more easily support developers consuming the APIs and end customers to have better quality products. I like where it ended up with Swift 2.0. In a vacuum I would possibly have gone for all parameters named and not 'all but the first one’ (with some exceptions for constructors) but I see how we got there and it does fit the transliteration of API from ObjC to Swift. And that standard transliteration, especially in the latest Swift, has made switching from ObjC to Swift much easier so I’m all for bringing that function naming convention over. I think one of the patterns I had to learn to make it work was naming functions like you do in objective C. I had no problem in that language doing -(Felony*)doSomethingWithJello:(Jello*)jello peaShooter:(PeaShooter*)peaShooter batmanMask:(BatmanMask*)batmanMask; when I first started writing Swift it looked like C to me, so my function name just became the verb and I got this func doSomething( jello : Jello, peaShooter : PeaShooter, batmanMask : BatmanMask )-Felony and when you have that it does’t make sense you don’t need to name the Jello. Once I started naming the functions in the same way I would have done the original objC one, it all made more sense func doSomethingWithJello( jello : Jello, peaShooter : PeaShooter, batmanMask : BatmanMask )-Felony On the odd occasion that I write more C-name-like functions then I usually double up the first parameter so they are all named when you call them. And if I have an initialiser which can only obviously take one argument, especially with generics where the argument is often ‘initialValue’, I underscore it away. 95% of the time I find I follow the conventions however and code is pretty readable. Similarly so is other people’s. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
Hi, Can you open the dictionary in Scripteditor? Is the application launched when you run sdef or open the dictionary in Scripteditor? I can’t seem to find an editor that will open it Try Xcode or TextWrangler with soft wrap switched on in the preferences. Or Sdef Editor, ignore the warnings and save as…. Willeke ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
Le 25 juin 2015 à 15:57, Dave d...@looktowindward.com a écrit : On 25 Jun 2015, at 14:48, Bill Cheeseman wjcheese...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Dave d...@looktowindward.com wrote: I get this error: sdp: enumerator of enumeration e183: missing required name attribute. Can you generate the sdef file separately, then manually edit it to supply the missing required 'name' attribute, and then run sdp on the edited sdef file? You will presumably have to give more than a little thought to what the missing name attribute should be, but maybe you'll hit pay dirt. I’m looking into doing that now, but I can’t seem to find an editor that will open it, at the moment it’s ONE giant line of text, I renamed it to .xml and tried to open in XCode - same. You can pretty format it using xmllint command line tool. xmllint --pretty 1 yourfile.xml your_formatted_file.xml Cheers Dave ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/mailing%40xenonium.com This email sent to mail...@xenonium.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
On 25 Jun 2015, at 17:14, Jean-Daniel Dupas mail...@xenonium.com wrote: You can pretty format it using xmllint command line tool. xmllint --pretty 1 yourfile.xml your_formatted_file.xml I knocked up a utility to do it but thanks anyway. Once I could see where the problem was, I fixed the output from “sdef” quite easily and then ran this file through “sdp”, e.g. sdef .app .txt // reformat and edit .txt and then: cat .txt | sdp -fh --basename App When I included the generated header file in my project, here were a few duplicate definitions which I fixed and it compiled ok! That was a really good hack! Many Thanks to everyone that helped on this. All the Best Dave ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Another AppleScriptObjC Bridge Question
Hi, I’ve added some .applescript files to my project which get called using the AppleScriptObjC Bridge. I was wondering if there was a way to specify in the project somehow that I want to use the terminology from a particular application when compiling the script? All the Best Dave ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Generic Bitmap to NSImage
On 26 Jun 2015, at 9:10 am, Raglan T. Tiger r...@crusaderrabbit.net wrote: I have a list of generic bitmaps that are to be transformed to NSImages. The list can be long, I haven limits on it. Here is the code I use to populate an NSMenu that gets set into an NSPopUpButton. I need to speed this process up ... any suggestions? Instead of creating a CGBitmapContext to wrap your pixel buffer, then turning it into a CGImage, then copying it to an NSImage, why not create a NSBitmapImageRep directly wrapping the original buffer? Then it can be added to an NSImage as a rep without any copying being necessary at any point. The slowness here (which you imply is a problem) is very likely due to the fact that you are having to copy each bitmap twice (once when you create the CGImage, the second time when you blit that into the NSImage). —Graham ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Generic Bitmap to NSImage
I have a list of generic bitmaps that are to be transformed to NSImages. The
list can be long, I haven limits on it.
Here is the code I use to populate an NSMenu that gets set into an
NSPopUpButton.
I need to speed this process up ... any suggestions?
NSMenu *comboMenu = [[[NSMenu alloc] init] autorelease];
POSITION pos = listOfBBitmaps.GetHeadPosition();
while ( pos )
{
BBitmap *image = listOfBBitmaps.GetNext ( pos );
CGColorSpaceRef colorSpace;
colorSpace = CGColorSpaceCreateWithName(kCGColorSpaceGenericRGB);
CGContextRefcontext;
context = CGBitmapContextCreate (image-m_array, image-m_pixelsx,
image-m_pixelsy, 8, image-m_pixelsx * 4, colorSpace,
kCGImageAlphaNoneSkipFirst|kCGBitmapByteOrder32Host);
CGImageRef cgImage = CGBitmapContextCreateImage (context);
CGContextRelease(context);
CGColorSpaceRelease(colorSpace);
size_t width = CGImageGetWidth( cgImage );
size_t height = CGImageGetHeight( cgImage );
NSRect imageRect = NSMakeRect(0, 0, width, height);
NSImage *nsImage = [[[NSImage alloc] initWithSize:imageRect.size]
autorelease];
if ( [nsImage respondsToSelector:@selector(lockFocusFlipped:)] )
{
[nsImage lockFocusFlipped:YES];
}
else
{
[nsImage setFlipped:YES];
[nsImage lockFocus];
}
CGContextRef imageContext = (CGContextRef)[[NSGraphicsContext
currentContext] graphicsPort];
CGContextDrawImage(imageContext, *(CGRect*)imageRect, cgImage);
[nsImage unlockFocus];
NSMenuItem *menuItem = [[[NSMenuItem alloc] init] autorelease];
[menuItem setImage: nsImage];
[menuItem setTitle:[NSString stringWithFormat:@untitled]];
[comboMenu addItem:menuItem];
m_imageCount++;
}
-rags
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Re: Generic Bitmap to NSImage
On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:10 PM, Raglan T. Tiger r...@crusaderrabbit.net wrote:
I have a list of generic bitmaps that are to be transformed to NSImages. The
list can be long, I haven limits on it.
Here is the code I use to populate an NSMenu that gets set into an
NSPopUpButton.
I need to speed this process up ... any suggestions?
NSMenu *comboMenu = [[[NSMenu alloc] init] autorelease];
POSITION pos = listOfBBitmaps.GetHeadPosition();
while ( pos )
{
BBitmap *image = listOfBBitmaps.GetNext ( pos );
CGColorSpaceRef colorSpace;
colorSpace = CGColorSpaceCreateWithName(kCGColorSpaceGenericRGB);
CGContextRefcontext;
context = CGBitmapContextCreate (image-m_array, image-m_pixelsx,
image-m_pixelsy, 8, image-m_pixelsx * 4, colorSpace,
kCGImageAlphaNoneSkipFirst|kCGBitmapByteOrder32Host);
CGImageRef cgImage = CGBitmapContextCreateImage (context);
CGContextRelease(context);
CGColorSpaceRelease(colorSpace);
size_t width = CGImageGetWidth( cgImage );
size_t height = CGImageGetHeight( cgImage );
NSRect imageRect = NSMakeRect(0, 0, width, height);
NSImage *nsImage = [[[NSImage alloc] initWithSize:imageRect.size]
autorelease];
if ( [nsImage respondsToSelector:@selector(lockFocusFlipped:)] )
{
[nsImage lockFocusFlipped:YES];
}
else
{
[nsImage setFlipped:YES];
[nsImage lockFocus];
}
CGContextRef imageContext = (CGContextRef)[[NSGraphicsContext
currentContext] graphicsPort];
CGContextDrawImage(imageContext, *(CGRect*)imageRect, cgImage);
[nsImage unlockFocus];
NSMenuItem *menuItem = [[[NSMenuItem alloc] init] autorelease];
[menuItem setImage: nsImage];
[menuItem setTitle:[NSString stringWithFormat:@untitled]];
[comboMenu addItem:menuItem];
m_imageCount++;
}
First suggestion is to cache the results so you don't have to convert every
time.
Second is to start the process in the background as soon as you think you'll
need the images rather than doing it synchronously.
Third is to avoid using drawing to create the NSImage. There are two separate
approaches:
1) Create the image by creating an NSBitmapImageRep from the bitmap
data and then creating an NSImage and adding that rep to it. You would call
-initWithBitmapDataPlanes:pixelsWide:pixelsHigh:bitsPerSample:samplesPerPixel:hasAlpha:isPlanar:colorSpaceName:bitmapFormat:bytesPerRow:bitsPerPixel:
to create the NSBitmapImageRep. You would use -initWithSize: to create the
NSImage. You would add the image rep to the image using -addRepresentation:.
2) Create a CGImage using CGImageCreate(). Create an NSImage using
-initWithCGImage:size:.
I doubt there's significant performance difference between the two methods, so
choose whichever seems most natural.
Regards,
Ken
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Any way around the 'typealias' requirement here
Trying to have a delegate pattern with a typealias requirement. I can define
the protocol, I can make a class conform to it, but I can’t declare a variable
of that type as a member of another class because it has associated type
information. Is there a way to do this, or is there a very good reason what I’m
trying to do doesn’t make sense?
public protocol Foo : class
{
typealias Key
func foo( k : Key )-()
}
public class FooClass : Foo
{
typealias Key = Int
public func foo( k : Int )-() // satisfies the protocol
requirement
{
print( Satisfies Foo )
}
}
public class BarKey
{
var delegate : Foo // Protocol ‘Foo’ can only be used as a
generic constraint because …
}
You see what I’m trying to mean here right, that the Foo here is a Foo with
associated type ‘Key’.
I really want to be able to qualify the Foo with a where clause like
var delegate : Foo where Foo.Key == Key
but you can’t use where clauses like that. Is there a way to write this or is
this something which cannot be written.
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Re: Overlapping NSViews and mouseDown Events
Graham, Xcode 6.3.2; OS X 10.10.3; Base SDK 10.10; Deployment Target 10.10; Swift 1.2; iMac 24” early 2009. I think we have to go back to around 10.5 to get to the time of no assumptions about z-order of overlapping sibling views. Thanks, Tom Wetmore On Jun 25, 2015, at 12:22 AM, Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com wrote: On 25 Jun 2015, at 2:08 pm, Thomas Wetmore t...@verizon.net wrote: I assume the quirks of dealing with overlapping views have long been ironed out. What SDK and minimum target version do you have? I’m just wondering if there’s a compatibility thing kicking in for older systems, which did not make any guarantees about Z-order of overlapping views. —Graham ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Swift and parameter names
On 2015/06/25, at 15:49, Britt Durbrow bdurb...@rattlesnakehillsoftworks.com wrote: IMHO, named parameters at call sites are one of the things that makes Objective-C great; and I am VERY happy that Swift-2 enforces this. I agree whole heartedly. But will call out that it is a considered and thoughtful design by Cocoa and Foundation Framework engineers. Objective-C doesn't require it. Look at the old Next manual... There were a few obtuse methods. The IDE takes the burden of typing away. The conventions established help promote good coding practices that enable clarity and reduce mistakes and confusion. The (general) consistency and effort towards consistency those folks work towards is for everyone who codes to do it better. For themselves to more easily support developers consuming the APIs and end customers to have better quality products. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
On 25 Jun 2015, at 00:30, Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com wrote: On 24 Jun 2015, at 9:22 pm, Dave d...@looktowindward.com wrote: I was wondering if I should just give up now and forget using the Bridge or if there’s any chance that I might get a usable header file generated somehow. My instincts tell me to give up, but if anyone knows better or they know a better solution I’d really appreciate a pointer….. Scripting Bridge worked for me to implement a programmatic interface to Mail. Long time since I did it, forget what, if any, issues I had, but don’t recall any particular problems. Yes, it seems to work with all Apple Apps I’ve tested with, (which is all it mentions in the examples), but not with third party apps. It probably is also dependant when when the application was created too. Dave ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
