Re: ANN: new open-source window manager for OS X
Looks interesting. Any comment on how this relates to Slate (https://github.com/jigish/slate)? It seems to be roughly along the same lines (which would be fine, just asking). -Tom On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.comwrote: Called Windows.app. Source is on github: https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp What's particularly neat about it is how you configure it. It looks for a dotfile in your home dir, which can either be JavaScript or CoffeeScript. In this config file you, bind your hot keys as you want, using a very simple API that the app exposes in JS-land. I managed to get JavaScript scripting working via JSCocoa, and CoffeeScript via coffeescript.js and Coffeescript.compile(). Technically I hide the ObjJ syntax away, since most people are much more comfortable in pure JS than in ObjJ. I was looking into adding ClojureScript support, but I'm not yet sure how to avoid the start-up delay when running java. Waiting 5 seconds each time you reload your config isn't ideal. My first choice for scripting was to use MacRuby, but it only works with GC apps, and this one uses ARC. I hear they've got ARC in the works, so my fingers are crossed for the future. Also, PyObjC is really hard to integrate into an app. Ironically enough, when I was googling for how to do it, I found an article I wrote about it 3 years ago when I was working at BNR. Also, I created a technique for generating appcasts statically from the command line, and hosting the appcast on github, that might be interesting to other open source authors who don't want to have any other hosting but github. The details are in this build.sh file: https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp/blob/master/build.sh My apologies if new-app announcements are off-topic, but I think this one is particularly suitable for cocoa-dev because of the technical details. -Steven ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/tomvons%40gmail.com This email sent to tomv...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: ANN: new open-source window manager for OS X
On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: Called Windows.app. ... I think someone may have used the name Windows already... Charles ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: ANN: new open-source window manager for OS X
True, but I'm confident they don't care. :) On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Charles Srstka cocoa...@charlessoft.comwrote: On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: Called Windows.app. ... I think someone may have used the name Windows already... Charles ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: ANN: new open-source window manager for OS X
Fantastic! What does it do? --Graham On 18/04/2013, at 2:44 AM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: Called Windows.app. Source is on github: https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp What's particularly neat about it is how you configure it. It looks for a dotfile in your home dir, which can either be JavaScript or CoffeeScript. In this config file you, bind your hot keys as you want, using a very simple API that the app exposes in JS-land. I managed to get JavaScript scripting working via JSCocoa, and CoffeeScript via coffeescript.js and Coffeescript.compile(). Technically I hide the ObjJ syntax away, since most people are much more comfortable in pure JS than in ObjJ. I was looking into adding ClojureScript support, but I'm not yet sure how to avoid the start-up delay when running java. Waiting 5 seconds each time you reload your config isn't ideal. My first choice for scripting was to use MacRuby, but it only works with GC apps, and this one uses ARC. I hear they've got ARC in the works, so my fingers are crossed for the future. Also, PyObjC is really hard to integrate into an app. Ironically enough, when I was googling for how to do it, I found an article I wrote about it 3 years ago when I was working at BNR. Also, I created a technique for generating appcasts statically from the command line, and hosting the appcast on github, that might be interesting to other open source authors who don't want to have any other hosting but github. The details are in this build.sh file: https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp/blob/master/build.sh My apologies if new-app announcements are off-topic, but I think this one is particularly suitable for cocoa-dev because of the technical details. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: ANN: new open-source window manager for OS X
Thanks :) The crux of it is that you can bind global hotkeys to your own JavaScript (or CoffeeScript) functions, and from your JS (or CS) config file, you have access to an API[1] that lets you control and inspect all open windows and apps. On the wiki I have some examples of how you can use this to make something kind of like a tiling window manager. One of them[2] mimics the closed-source app AppGrid[3] that I wrote the other week (which actually turned out to be a spectacular commercial failure because I don't know how to market). Technically the API is ObjC, so it could do anything you can otherwise do in an app, it's not just limited to letting you move/resize windows. For example, last night I added the functions `open` and `shell`, and today I added a binding to my own config[4] that opens Dictionary.app. [1] https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp#api [2] https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp/wiki/AppGrid-config [3] http://giantrobotsoftware.com/appgrid [4] https://github.com/sdegutis/home/blob/master/.windowsapp.coffee#L13 -Steven On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com wrote: Fantastic! What does it do? --Graham On 18/04/2013, at 2:44 AM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: Called Windows.app. Source is on github: https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp What's particularly neat about it is how you configure it. It looks for a dotfile in your home dir, which can either be JavaScript or CoffeeScript. In this config file you, bind your hot keys as you want, using a very simple API that the app exposes in JS-land. I managed to get JavaScript scripting working via JSCocoa, and CoffeeScript via coffeescript.js and Coffeescript.compile(). Technically I hide the ObjJ syntax away, since most people are much more comfortable in pure JS than in ObjJ. I was looking into adding ClojureScript support, but I'm not yet sure how to avoid the start-up delay when running java. Waiting 5 seconds each time you reload your config isn't ideal. My first choice for scripting was to use MacRuby, but it only works with GC apps, and this one uses ARC. I hear they've got ARC in the works, so my fingers are crossed for the future. Also, PyObjC is really hard to integrate into an app. Ironically enough, when I was googling for how to do it, I found an article I wrote about it 3 years ago when I was working at BNR. Also, I created a technique for generating appcasts statically from the command line, and hosting the appcast on github, that might be interesting to other open source authors who don't want to have any other hosting but github. The details are in this build.sh file: https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp/blob/master/build.sh My apologies if new-app announcements are off-topic, but I think this one is particularly suitable for cocoa-dev because of the technical details. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
ANN: new open-source window manager for OS X
Called Windows.app. Source is on github: https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp What's particularly neat about it is how you configure it. It looks for a dotfile in your home dir, which can either be JavaScript or CoffeeScript. In this config file you, bind your hot keys as you want, using a very simple API that the app exposes in JS-land. I managed to get JavaScript scripting working via JSCocoa, and CoffeeScript via coffeescript.js and Coffeescript.compile(). Technically I hide the ObjJ syntax away, since most people are much more comfortable in pure JS than in ObjJ. I was looking into adding ClojureScript support, but I'm not yet sure how to avoid the start-up delay when running java. Waiting 5 seconds each time you reload your config isn't ideal. My first choice for scripting was to use MacRuby, but it only works with GC apps, and this one uses ARC. I hear they've got ARC in the works, so my fingers are crossed for the future. Also, PyObjC is really hard to integrate into an app. Ironically enough, when I was googling for how to do it, I found an article I wrote about it 3 years ago when I was working at BNR. Also, I created a technique for generating appcasts statically from the command line, and hosting the appcast on github, that might be interesting to other open source authors who don't want to have any other hosting but github. The details are in this build.sh file: https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp/blob/master/build.sh My apologies if new-app announcements are off-topic, but I think this one is particularly suitable for cocoa-dev because of the technical details. -Steven ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
