Re: Application main menu title behavior change in 10.6
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Peter Ammonpam...@apple.com wrote: Hi Jim, First let me thank you for checking the release notes. However, that particular issue is unrelated, confusingly enough. Here's what's going on. The first menu item in the main menu (or more precisely, its submenu) is magic, in that when it becomes the first item, its title is ignored and instead the application name is used. This is why you do not have to update your MainMenu.nib every time you change your application name. In Leopard, there was a bug that caused this to be applied inconsistently. It sounds like your application was benefiting from this bug. You can change the title of the application menu, after you set the main menu, like so: NSApp mainMenu] itemAtIndex:0] submenu] setTitle:@New Title] Hope this helps, -Peter Indeed it does help, Peter. I now see why I was so confused with the behavior I was encountering when I tried setTitle: initially. setTitle: does its business only if the new title is different than the current title. We are building a new main menu with the new application's name already in place. Doing the following sets the menu's title correctly when the title is already set to New Title: NSApp mainMenu] itemAtIndex:0] submenu] setTitle:@] NSApp mainMenu] itemAtIndex:0] submenu] setTitle:@New Title] Always appreciative of the help, Peter. Thanks! -- Jim ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Application main menu title behavior change in 10.6
Hi all, I have an application (QuicKeys) that allows the user to define menu selection as an action. In our latest version and under Leopard, we present UI that replaces the main menu bar of our app with the menu bar of the target app (via setMainMenu:) so that we can correctly retrieve which menu item the user selected. Works like a champ, even under Snow Leopard, save for one problem. Under 10.6, the application name is always QuicKeys, not Finder or whatever the target application name would be. This is causing confusion with our users as while the menu is really the target app's menu, it has the wrong application name. Reading through the release notes for AppKit on 10.6, I found that there's been a change to how the main menu bar displays the application's name. Specifically, under the NSApplication application menu item title header, it states ... the application menu always reflects the application name. This appears to be what's causing the issue and I'm curious if anyone knows of a work-around? Thanks Jim ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Application main menu title behavior change in 10.6
If that's indeed the case, then you're out of luck short of using a private API in AppKit (which can be class-dump'd, by the way), which I would not recommend. However, if you wanted, the way I would try it is by changing the name of the application respective of the main menu, or at least look to see if this is possible using private APIs in AppKit. But that's just me... -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Jim Turner jturner.li...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have an application (QuicKeys) that allows the user to define menu selection as an action. In our latest version and under Leopard, we present UI that replaces the main menu bar of our app with the menu bar of the target app (via setMainMenu:) so that we can correctly retrieve which menu item the user selected. Works like a champ, even under Snow Leopard, save for one problem. Under 10.6, the application name is always QuicKeys, not Finder or whatever the target application name would be. This is causing confusion with our users as while the menu is really the target app's menu, it has the wrong application name. Reading through the release notes for AppKit on 10.6, I found that there's been a change to how the main menu bar displays the application's name. Specifically, under the NSApplication application menu item title header, it states ... the application menu always reflects the application name. This appears to be what's causing the issue and I'm curious if anyone knows of a work-around? Thanks Jim ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Application main menu title behavior change in 10.6
On Sep 4, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Jim Turner wrote: Hi all, I have an application (QuicKeys) that allows the user to define menu selection as an action. In our latest version and under Leopard, we present UI that replaces the main menu bar of our app with the menu bar of the target app (via setMainMenu:) so that we can correctly retrieve which menu item the user selected. Works like a champ, even under Snow Leopard, save for one problem. Under 10.6, the application name is always QuicKeys, not Finder or whatever the target application name would be. This is causing confusion with our users as while the menu is really the target app's menu, it has the wrong application name. Reading through the release notes for AppKit on 10.6, I found that there's been a change to how the main menu bar displays the application's name. Specifically, under the NSApplication application menu item title header, it states ... the application menu always reflects the application name. This appears to be what's causing the issue and I'm curious if anyone knows of a work-around? Hi Jim, First let me thank you for checking the release notes. However, that particular issue is unrelated, confusingly enough. Here's what's going on. The first menu item in the main menu (or more precisely, its submenu) is magic, in that when it becomes the first item, its title is ignored and instead the application name is used. This is why you do not have to update your MainMenu.nib every time you change your application name. In Leopard, there was a bug that caused this to be applied inconsistently. It sounds like your application was benefiting from this bug. You can change the title of the application menu, after you set the main menu, like so: NSApp mainMenu] itemAtIndex:0] submenu] setTitle:@New Title] Hope this helps, -Peter ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
